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Quota Visa Options and long-term plan. Any visa options I have missed?

Last activity 22 October 2022 by hiddentreasures1994

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hiddentreasures1994

Hi everyone! I am relatively familiar with the Philippines (am white British) and have spent enough time there months at a time in 2017/2018/2019 (and ex was filipino, and a good chunk of my social group is) to a point I can hold a basic conversation in tagalog at this point and trying to improve as of this year.


My long-term partner is Filipino and lives in manila, we are both the same age (27). Cannot due to 13A visa due to gay marriage/civil unions not being available.


I have recently been spending more time there. I do have savings of around £15,000 and climbing. I currently come back to the UK every 2 - 4 months or so just to work extra hours (i flexi-work so do not work while away, its a job that requires physical presence, bank shifts. I have skills to work online long term if I got the correct visas) (i have very low expenses where i stay in UK) to top-up my 'pot' that i draw down from when in Ph (without touching my savings, in fact i add to them). My partner (a local) is a freelance writer.


We both live relatively comfortably on a 35k php a month budget including visa extensions and asc. dues of the condo unit (we split expenses 50/50). We eat like locals with some added luxuries, cook for ourselves, keep AC set at 23C and often turn it off and use a fan, etc. I ride trikes and do not taxi it everywhere. I socialise mostly with locals with many long-term friends, and have no expat connections really at all. None of my connections, partners family or otherwise ask me for money; I have genuine and stable connections there some spanning years and others back in the UK, also spanning years.


I have been looking into long term visa options. The 35-year-old SRRV is not an option for me until I hit 35. 13A is not possible unless civil unions pass even if we married. My filipino partner is more happy to stay in the Philippines than be sponsored to the UK, which has its own ridiculous hoops and insane costs (a sibling sponsored her spouse, i had to help with the paperwork!). Partner is currently as well as freelance writing looking to reskill in an IT programming role to open this option just in case, too risky to live on a minimum wage job with cost of living crisis.


I have had a look at the Quota Visa, which seems to mention skills.


I do however have a HND (higher national diploma) in IT, and am considering staying in the UK for a year to top it up to a degree.


The Quota Visa seems to talk about exceptional skills (and IT is in demand there). Would a HND or degree in IT, along with savings (if i later could buy a condominium, for example to the value of 50k USD). Anyone here gone the quota visa route? Would proof of fluency in tagalog or local connections also help such an application? I have been looking for hard and fast documentation but cannot find enough who have gone this road.


Until such time as I can do it, was going to do regular trips to/from, and just extend in country as needed (i hear one can stay up to 3 years with these extensions).  Or wait until I can get an SRRV, or a Quota Visa. As i want to work freelance properly, i would want an option that allows me to work freelance legitimately so i could ditch the returning to the UK to top up the pot option (hence why i won't reach the 3 years extensions limit going this road). I turn up at immigration with a ticket within 30 days (some new covid rule) even though I intend to stay longer and state this fact when they ask how long. Have never been asked for my ticket, but have been asked where my partner is from in Manila down to specific location, etc.


I am looking for long-term living, maybe even to the point of applying for citizenship if happy 10 years down the line so I could own land (UK nationality allows you to resume it if you gave it up for another nationality, once. Currently have 5 years experience of the country though got stuck in the UK due to COVID, but cannot find many who did a quota visa and the process in which to get it.


Can anyone shed any insight on Quota Visas or other options I have missed?


Thanks guys!

Guest8754

@hiddentreasures1994


What you need is referred to as a 'fixer.'


PH has fixers for everything - from getting a DL to taking a dump.


You seem to say you know this country. I say you don't - not at all. If you did I would not need to tell you this. Everything works on the basis of cronyism in PH. Lacking a PH family, you need to concentrate on getting connected... somehow.


A possible 'in' is there is no shortage of gays in PH...


If a dog can't kill something outright he will run it up a tree, then worry it to death...


circumnavigate

hiddentreasures1994

I know all about fixers, I've seen them used for things like locals' passport appointments to some things you can do yourself if patient.


I have escaped using them for anything up to this point. That is an option, but I was looking for a fixer free option that I may have missed. Locals are all telling me do not do it.


I have two Filipino families I know well, and even know a brgy captain and countless friends.


I do appreciate you taking the time to respond.


Am in a long term relationship with a local ready and know his family, still get on well with my ex and his family.


Edit:


Also local friends, partner, and others have told me to stay away from fixers where possible. Some of the first advice given in 2017/2018 when I first arrived. These are locals who are born and bred here. It's not done me wrong yet. My partner I pasted your response to and friends. So far they are saying don't do it. And for info: My partner is almost insulted by the suggestion. My ex has just had a good chuckle: "lazy foreigners not learning how to do stuff,"


Not saying I know it all, but I asked for advice and am happy to follow it and listen. But the advice from locals (who have said use a local immigration lawyer if unsure) is far different to the views of a couple of expats. Since 2018, everything I did in the Philippines with all the maze of government rules, was to do it myself even if it took a lot of time. Never once been scammed or cheated out of money. I know many did. My partner personally met an American who lost it all this way. I was curious to hear what those who actually GOT such a visa had gone through. I won't break local laws to get what I want, it shows a direspect of the culture and all locals I know said such. My partners whatsapp response i could screenshot and send to you if it wouldn't get me banned here.

harryFozzard

hiddentreasures1994,


I don't think you need a fixer — after Duterte cleaned the BOI house when a bunch of immigration officials got their hands caught in the cookie jar. I had a chance to test this when I dealt with a way overstayed visa a few months back.


Previously I had used a person to handle this work, a hang-over from a previous job. This was no fixer, but a person who handled large companies like Nestles and large BPOs. When I ran through the process — by no means a foregone conclusion — the only downside was the tedium of a couple of days at BOI.


Anecdotally, a friend who owned a freediving school in Cebu assured me that the quota process was easily done. This was when I assumed that you had to hire an attorney to do the work for ±USD4,000 all-in.


My understanding of the quota visa is that it isn't really dependent on the skills of the applicant, but that it is literally a quota for various countries. So, you need to get your application in before your fellow countrypeople and check all the boxed: show money, applications, affidavits, etc.

Enzyte Bob

this is one BS!
4give my french!
-@EmyMamamiya

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EmyMamamiya . . . I see you're from Nigeria . . . .Calling someone a BS'er is a oxymoron.

bigpearl

To the OP, hear your pain and frustrations, will send you a PM.


Cheers, Steve.

hiddentreasures1994

@bigpearl I responded, thank you very much for your time!

hiddentreasures1994


@harryFozzard I appreciate your response. It seems like the Quota Visa mentions "skills" which is why I was under the impression youd prove that somehow (with say a qualification in a given area). The finances, I am under the impression its a condominium worth $50,000 pesos, or business investment or remittance? (wed' go for the condo when we have saved the amount up).


https://immigration.gov.ph/images/FORMS … 1.1pdf.pdf


"Including but not limited to," seems to imply I could maybe use a combo of showing skills and funds, or similar.


Ivan Cristante

I used an immigration agent Mike Ryan of ABC International Migration Services from Ermita, Manila for my Quota Visa. A really nice and honest Australian running his business there for 20 years who doesn't charge like a wounded bull and with which you can have a good chat with at no charge. Phone (02) 5310-1581.

hiddentreasures1994

@Ivan Cristante


Thanks very much for that, I'll keep his details in mind.


What route did you use to apply? Financial capacity? Skills? Condo ownership?


Obviously if it's too private don't say, I am just curious as to what route you used, what documents had been submitted?


Thanks again for your response po.


Jacob

harryFozzard

@hiddentreasures1994 - the skills thing, I cannot speak to, but in the cases of folks I know who received a quota visa, they had business interests in the country, but no unique contribution like advanced degrees, etc. I suppose some word-smithery would help that component. I think the property/show money thing is pretty interchangeable on these and SRRV visa, but I'm by no means an expert. I think Ivan's recommendation of a quality agent who doesn't overcharge is the best source of accurate info (the field changes pretty regularly as administrations come and go) and for the best approach to nailing it when your ready to roll.

hiddentreasures1994

@harryFozzard Thanks so much for your input, I appreciate it. I will keep that in mind, when the time comes to apply :)

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