Brazil to Require Tourist Visas for Some Visa Waiver Countries

@abthree

I absolutely concur with you; it is surely unattainable at any Cartório/Notary office in Brazil. It's just that they record the days from your initial contact and the issue of the license (essentially, you visit the promotoria de justiça and get documents verified), and Cartório is legally bound to comply with it or the marriage may be challenged in local courts anytime in your lifetime.

Any update on the timing of this? It's supposed to be April of 2025 now right?

Katy

Hi   I speak to Rafaela almost every day as we have been chit chatting for months....I received my Brazilian Visa  last month (Still have to go to the Federal Policia in January when there)   I have been utilizing thme for a few other items....My birth certificate and translation as well as my wife's Brazilian documents (as we never changed her name years ago on them)     Yes the Visa is supposed to be April 2025 for the change over....  Mickey

Katy
Hi I speak to Rafaela almost every day as we have been chit chatting for months....I received my Brazilian Visa last month (Still have to go to the Federal Policia in January when there) I have been utilizing thme for a few other items....My birth certificate and translation as well as my wife's Brazilian documents (as we never changed her name years ago on them)  Yes the Visa is supposed to be April 2025 for the change over.... Mickey - @easygoer1050

@easygoer1050, I am a little confused by this response. 

1. The e-visa (tourist visa) is now scheduled to come into effect in April 2025. As far as I can remember it was originally expected to be in effect as far back as 2023 but has been pushed back multiple times.  I got the e-visa in December 2023 and it is valid for 10 years.  The e-visa is a totally online process and is rather simple in comparison to the other visas.
2. However, I have since moved forward with a GV visa application and this is a different process than an e-visa.  The GV visa requires more extensive documentation like birth certificate translations, background checks, bank checking, etc.  And when granted (and published), there is a 30 day validity window for registration at the PF.  If you are referring to that GV visa, you may want to check whether your planned visit to the FP is still within the valid visa period.  I am not sure of this but there may be a penalty fee for being outside of that validity period.  For my registration appointment at the PF, I had to really time my flight schedule so that the appointment (for biometric collection and photos etc...) was within the 30 day validity period.

I was not sure what visa your response was referring to.  I am aware of the 2 possible visa paths that I followed and provided what I experienced.

Hope that this helps with the clarification above.

Thank you both! I'm kinda tight on cash and trying to decide if I should have the lawyers help me out and get the digital.nomad visa or just go in with the visitor visa. I think I could even do the extension for a total of 6months - before April and not have to deal.with the evisa until my next trip. Do you think this would work?

Also any advice for the tax rules? I want to make sure I understand how to stay under the 183day limit. Thanks!

@*HernameisRio*

Remember the tourist visa is for a max 6 months in any 12 month period, so you must give regard to the last times you were in Brazil. If you last left Brazil more than 6 months ago, counting back from your next date of arrival, then you should be fine. The e-visa will not apply if you are already in Brazil, only for dates of arrival after its inception (whenever that may be).

Tax will not be a consideration as you will be here as a tourist, and cannot therefore legally work...

Thanks so much Peter! Yes I left on June 7th and won't return until after Dec 7th. So that was 6 months out of Brazil. Then if I stay 6months in Brazil starting in Dec, then I can leave after that for another 6 months and just keep rotating that way. It's my plan to only stay 6 months in North and South America's each so I think the visitor Visa is fine for me. And it sounds like I won't need to get it until I arrive next year. 2025 Dec.

I was also told I could still be taxed since I have a condo in rio. But only if I don't keep under the 183 rule or if you have more than $R788,000 of Assets in Brazil then you would have to pay tax, regardless of the amount of time or visa status.

@*HernameisRio*

Do not worry about it - you seem to have everything under control as a tourist. But of course you will still have to pay annual real estate taxes (IPTU) and possibly marina taxes (SPU) depending on the location of your place.

@Peter Itamaraca

Yes I have been paying the IPTU. I'm in Barra da Tijuca and I haven't heard anything about the SPU? How do I know if it applies to me?

Also if I Airbnb my place I just have to pay US taxes on that but not Brazilian taxes? I have another friend in the same condo from Florida and he doesn't pay Brazilian taxes. And he Airbnbs his place as well.

10/31/24 @*HernameisRio* It sounds like you're still in the US and not planning to come back to Brazil until December.  If you're interested in a Digital Nomad visa, why not get it at the Brazilian Consulate for your region beforehand?  That would remove the need to worry about a tourist visa, make registering with the Federal Police a lot easier, and make a lawyer unnecessary, at least for your resident status.

@Peter Itamaraca
Yes I have been paying the IPTU. I'm in Barra da Tijuca and I haven't heard anything about the SPU? How do I know if it applies to me?
Also if I Airbnb my place I just have to pay US taxes on that but not Brazilian taxes? I have another friend in the same condo from Florida and he doesn't pay Brazilian taxes. And he Airbnbs his place as well. - @*HernameisRio*

If you are close to any tidal water, look in your escritura for a SPU reference number - it will begin RIP. I mean real close - like you had to be within 33m of the 1831 high tide mark to qualify! But I am sure your attorney will have advised if this was the case, and you would also have had to pay an extra tax on purchase called Laudemio...

If you are receiving funds from a rental directly into the US, as your friend appears to be doing, how is anyone in Brazil going to know?

I just paid R$13.000 of laudemio to the descendants of the Brasilian royal family on a property purchase in Petropolis. Thankfully it was discounted from the regular amount.

I just paid R$13.000 of laudemio to the descendants of the Brasilian royal family on a property purchase in Petropolis. Thankfully it was discounted from the regular amount. - @Gasparzinho 777

There was a Brazilian royal family, not Portuguese?

10/31/24 I just paid R$13.000 of laudemio to the descendants of the Brasilian royal family on a property purchase in Petropolis. Thankfully it was discounted from the regular amount. - @Gasparzinho 777There was a Brazilian royal family, not Portuguese? - @alan279

The Brazilian Imperial Family.  They still exist.  Their property was confiscated after Pedro II was deposed and they were forced into exile in 1889, but they were allowed to return in 1922.  Brazilian courts returned a portion of their property to them, including residual rights over a portion of Petrópolis, RJ, which Pedro II developed on land that was his personal property and is now the central area of the city.

The difference of being, an Imperial family is the family of an Emperor or Empress, whereas a Royal Family (the better of the two, of course!) is the family of a King or Queen...