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Lotus Eater

Yes Dan, currently 6 months before an ECC is required, immi advised me yesterday nothing has changed. I assumed that under the proposed system extending from 30 days to 59 days would not require an ECC but after the 59 days yes instead of the current 6 months.
Just from experience the 30 day free visa is fine if you are here for under 30 days but and but if you want to extend another 29 days it costs P 3030, been there etc. but after that it's only P 2830 for the next 2 months so under the current system is you stay over the 30 days in essence you are paying for your 30 day free visa.

My only ever ECC took 15 minutes and black ink on my thumbs and cost a whole 500 pesos. Given the way bureaucracy works I doubt anything will change.

Cheers, Steve.
-@bigpearl



I assumed that under the proposed system extending from 30 days to 59 days would not require an ECC but after the 59 days yes instead of the current 6 months.


Yes that's how I understand it as confirmed by the Filipina pea. It beggars belief that the average tourist will have to apply for an exit clearance after a couple of weeks. Thats a non sequitur. Too much chismis on this forum.

danfinn

Yes Dan, currently 6 months before an ECC is required, immi advised me yesterday nothing has changed. I assumed that under the proposed system extending from 30 days to 59 days would not require an ECC but after the 59 days yes instead of the current 6 months.
Just from experience the 30 day free visa is fine if you are here for under 30 days but and but if you want to extend another 29 days it costs P 3030, been there etc. but after that it's only P 2830 for the next 2 months so under the current system is you stay over the 30 days in essence you are paying for your 30 day free visa.

My only ever ECC took 15 minutes and black ink on my thumbs and cost a whole 500 pesos. Given the way bureaucracy works I doubt anything will change.

Cheers, Steve.
-@bigpearl


I assumed that under the proposed system extending from 30 days to 59 days would not require an ECC but after the 59 days yes instead of the current 6 months.


Yes that's how I understand it as confirmed by the Filipina pea. It beggars belief that the average tourist will have to apply for an exit clearance after a couple of weeks. Thats a non sequitur. Too much chismis on this forum.
-@Lotus Eater

Before you criticize people for chismis (making you sound cool for using one of the few Filipino words you know), re-read what I said. Filipina Pea was addressing long term stayers and the truth is you haven't a clue as to when BI will enact ECC since the proposed law is ambiguous with respect to the timing. But you do know one Filipino term and that makes you a really cool guy, if that is what you are.

sekmet

Well, I suppose nothing has changed because the bill hasn't been signed into law yet, has it?  If and when it does, my guess is it might take a while for full implementation.


Enjoy your extensions.

Lotus Eater

Yes Dan, currently 6 months before an ECC is required, immi advised me yesterday nothing has changed. I assumed that under the proposed system extending from 30 days to 59 days would not require an ECC but after the 59 days yes instead of the current 6 months.
Just from experience the 30 day free visa is fine if you are here for under 30 days but and but if you want to extend another 29 days it costs P 3030, been there etc. but after that it's only P 2830 for the next 2 months so under the current system is you stay over the 30 days in essence you are paying for your 30 day free visa.

My only ever ECC took 15 minutes and black ink on my thumbs and cost a whole 500 pesos. Given the way bureaucracy works I doubt anything will change.

Cheers, Steve.
-@bigpearl


I assumed that under the proposed system extending from 30 days to 59 days would not require an ECC but after the 59 days yes instead of the current 6 months.


Yes that's how I understand it as confirmed by the Filipina pea. It beggars belief that the average tourist will have to apply for an exit clearance after a couple of weeks. Thats a non sequitur. Too much chismis on this forum.
-@Lotus Eater
Before you criticize people for chismis (making you sound cool for using one of the few Filipino words you know), re-read what I said. Filipina Pea was addressing long term stayers and the truth is you haven't a clue as to when BI will enact ECC since the proposed law is ambiguous with respect to the timing. But you do know one Filipino term and that makes you a really cool guy, if that is what you are.
-@danfinn


I’m sorry if I’ve upset you on my use of the Filipino word Chismis. I felt that the adjective was geographically appropriate given the number of conflicting statements regarding the forthcoming immigration bill and yes this is a Filipino forum. As a learned gentleman you will know that the word means gossip and gossip is based on rumour not fact. I suppose if I really wanted to show off I would have used the posh version Tsimis. No matter.


You stated in a previous post ‘The one big hit that I see under the new system is that regular short term tourists will need to get an ECC under any period of stay, even 2 weeks’


That’s not what the Filipina Pea said and you have made an assumption. Only asses assume.


I was not aware that you had been elevated to the status of moderator Danfinn. May I take this opportunity of congratulating you on your new position.

Ivo sonnenberg

@danfinn For a tourist it is not nice, but for the Phillipines every tourist is 500 pesos extra. that makes the box tick. But thats only 10 bucks. And 3000 for an extension is only 50 bucks. In your home country you would probably pay more on tax, while in the Phillipines your income from your homecountry you pay no tax over it at all. And in your home country wich for me at the moment is Switserland, you dont have to pay tax anymore wenn you leave. In other words i dont pay taxes at all anymore, exept for some source tax from pensions of  other countries i have pensions off, but thats not much. As i look at it in my situation i would lose in one year only 300 bucks to extensions. I will not even notice that.

karpinchuck

I just met my fiance last month and we want to do the fiance visa

What are the steps.

Do I file the 1-129F petition first.

Can I do it on line .?

Or is that for the marriage process.

Thanks

danfinn

Yes Dan, currently 6 months before an ECC is required, immi advised me yesterday nothing has changed. I assumed that under the proposed system extending from 30 days to 59 days would not require an ECC but after the 59 days yes instead of the current 6 months.
Just from experience the 30 day free visa is fine if you are here for under 30 days but and but if you want to extend another 29 days it costs P 3030, been there etc. but after that it's only P 2830 for the next 2 months so under the current system is you stay over the 30 days in essence you are paying for your 30 day free visa.

My only ever ECC took 15 minutes and black ink on my thumbs and cost a whole 500 pesos. Given the way bureaucracy works I doubt anything will change.

Cheers, Steve.
-@bigpearl


I assumed that under the proposed system extending from 30 days to 59 days would not require an ECC but after the 59 days yes instead of the current 6 months.


Yes that's how I understand it as confirmed by the Filipina pea. It beggars belief that the average tourist will have to apply for an exit clearance after a couple of weeks. Thats a non sequitur. Too much chismis on this forum.
-@Lotus Eater
Before you criticize people for chismis (making you sound cool for using one of the few Filipino words you know), re-read what I said. Filipina Pea was addressing long term stayers and the truth is you haven't a clue as to when BI will enact ECC since the proposed law is ambiguous with respect to the timing. But you do know one Filipino term and that makes you a really cool guy, if that is what you are.
-@danfinn

I’m sorry if I’ve upset you on my use of the Filipino word Chismis. I felt that the adjective was geographically appropriate given the number of conflicting statements regarding the forthcoming immigration bill and yes this is a Filipino forum. As a learned gentleman you will know that the word means gossip and gossip is based on rumour not fact. I suppose if I really wanted to show off I would have used the posh version Tsimis. No matter.

You stated in a previous post ‘The one big hit that I see under the new system is that regular short term tourists will need to get an ECC under any period of stay, even 2 weeks’

That’s not what the Filipina Pea said and you have made an assumption. Only asses assume.

I was not aware that you had been elevated to the status of moderator Danfinn. May I take this opportunity of congratulating you on your new position.
-@Lotus Eater

Well, don't be sorry because that conflicts with your pompous image . As for what the pea said, the question is what she did not say, in this case dealing with the topic of short term tourists. Gio did say it though. You may infer I am an ass which is OK given that when people lose grasp of a topic with nothing concrete to say, the weak minded typically resort to ad hominem insults and I would expect nothing less from you. All I did was to frankly address a concern a concern that did not originate with me but rather than provide an intelligent response you go on your chismis rant. Hopefully today will find you in a better mood.

Moon Dog

@karpinchuck


The K-1 visa process is explained in detail on the travel.state.gov website.


https://travel.state.gov/content/travel … e-k-1.html


Good luck

Enzyte Bob

I'm late into this subject as it is boring and I'm aboard the ship already so pull up the ladder.


(1) Believe half of what you see.

(2) None of what you hear, here.


Bloggers try to out blog each other, viewership is Money.


Me being on the peripheral of this subject without a vested interest, I find it strange the number is 59 days, could this be a planned gateway to ACR-1?


I think people should wait for it to pass to digest what's involved, if it ever doespass, before they jump off a cliff.

danfinn

I'm late into this subject as it is boring and I'm aboard the ship already so pull up the ladder.
(1) Believe half of what you see.
(2) None of what you hear, here.

Bloggers try to out blog each other, viewership is Money.

Me being on the peripheral of this subject without a vested interest, I find it strange the number is 59 days, could this be a planned gateway to ACR-1?

I think people should wait for it to pass to digest what's involved, if it ever doespass, before they jump off a cliff.
-@Enzyte Bob

Thanks for your usual sage advice. I too am not directly affected being SRRV. But the original video referenced an ECC problem for short term visitors i.e. my kids as short term visitors  and I was hoping to get additional perspectives other than the original posted video. I have seen no information on that yet. Lacking that we will just have to wait as you say.

Lotus Eater

Yes Dan, currently 6 months before an ECC is required, immi advised me yesterday nothing has changed. I assumed that under the proposed system extending from 30 days to 59 days would not require an ECC but after the 59 days yes instead of the current 6 months.
Just from experience the 30 day free visa is fine if you are here for under 30 days but and but if you want to extend another 29 days it costs P 3030, been there etc. but after that it's only P 2830 for the next 2 months so under the current system is you stay over the 30 days in essence you are paying for your 30 day free visa.

My only ever ECC took 15 minutes and black ink on my thumbs and cost a whole 500 pesos. Given the way bureaucracy works I doubt anything will change.

Cheers, Steve.
-@bigpearl


I assumed that under the proposed system extending from 30 days to 59 days would not require an ECC but after the 59 days yes instead of the current 6 months.


Yes that's how I understand it as confirmed by the Filipina pea. It beggars belief that the average tourist will have to apply for an exit clearance after a couple of weeks. Thats a non sequitur. Too much chismis on this forum.
-@Lotus Eater
Before you criticize people for chismis (making you sound cool for using one of the few Filipino words you know), re-read what I said. Filipina Pea was addressing long term stayers and the truth is you haven't a clue as to when BI will enact ECC since the proposed law is ambiguous with respect to the timing. But you do know one Filipino term and that makes you a really cool guy, if that is what you are.
-@danfinn

I’m sorry if I’ve upset you on my use of the Filipino word Chismis. I felt that the adjective was geographically appropriate given the number of conflicting statements regarding the forthcoming immigration bill and yes this is a Filipino forum. As a learned gentleman you will know that the word means gossip and gossip is based on rumour not fact. I suppose if I really wanted to show off I would have used the posh version Tsimis. No matter.

You stated in a previous post ‘The one big hit that I see under the new system is that regular short term tourists will need to get an ECC under any period of stay, even 2 weeks’

That’s not what the Filipina Pea said and you have made an assumption. Only asses assume.

I was not aware that you had been elevated to the status of moderator Danfinn. May I take this opportunity of congratulating you on your new position.
-@Lotus Eater
Well, don't be sorry because that conflicts with your pompous image . As for what the pea said, the question is what she did not say, in this case dealing with the topic of short term tourists. Gio did say it though. You may infer I am an ass which is OK given that when people lose grasp of a topic with nothing concrete to say, the weak minded typically resort to ad hominem insults and I would expect nothing less from you. All I did was to frankly address a concern a concern that did not originate with me but rather than provide an intelligent response you go on your chismis rant. Hopefully today will find you in a better mood.
-@danfinn


Do you suffer from high blood pressure?

bigpearl

Yes Dan, imagine what that will do to a newly reopened tourist industry.

I haven't read the bill/proposed changes and doubt very much the 2 week scenario, probably after the 59 days.

As for BI, my local immi office is 40 minutes by car and usually I'm the only one there, They have always been easy to deal with (San Fernando City La Union) and we always do the shopping and restaurants while out and about.


The ECC thing from what I have read won't affect long term visitors and seriously doubt they will implement a bill that will/could push tourism away.


OMO.


Cheers, Steve,

danfinn

Yes Dan, currently 6 months before an ECC is required, immi advised me yesterday nothing has changed. I assumed that under the proposed system extending from 30 days to 59 days would not require an ECC but after the 59 days yes instead of the current 6 months.
Just from experience the 30 day free visa is fine if you are here for under 30 days but and but if you want to extend another 29 days it costs P 3030, been there etc. but after that it's only P 2830 for the next 2 months so under the current system is you stay over the 30 days in essence you are paying for your 30 day free visa.

My only ever ECC took 15 minutes and black ink on my thumbs and cost a whole 500 pesos. Given the way bureaucracy works I doubt anything will change.

Cheers, Steve.
-@bigpearl


I assumed that under the proposed system extending from 30 days to 59 days would not require an ECC but after the 59 days yes instead of the current 6 months.


Yes that's how I understand it as confirmed by the Filipina pea. It beggars belief that the average tourist will have to apply for an exit clearance after a couple of weeks. Thats a non sequitur. Too much chismis on this forum.
-@Lotus Eater
Before you criticize people for chismis (making you sound cool for using one of the few Filipino words you know), re-read what I said. Filipina Pea was addressing long term stayers and the truth is you haven't a clue as to when BI will enact ECC since the proposed law is ambiguous with respect to the timing. But you do know one Filipino term and that makes you a really cool guy, if that is what you are.
-@danfinn

I’m sorry if I’ve upset you on my use of the Filipino word Chismis. I felt that the adjective was geographically appropriate given the number of conflicting statements regarding the forthcoming immigration bill and yes this is a Filipino forum. As a learned gentleman you will know that the word means gossip and gossip is based on rumour not fact. I suppose if I really wanted to show off I would have used the posh version Tsimis. No matter.

You stated in a previous post ‘The one big hit that I see under the new system is that regular short term tourists will need to get an ECC under any period of stay, even 2 weeks’

That’s not what the Filipina Pea said and you have made an assumption. Only asses assume.

I was not aware that you had been elevated to the status of moderator Danfinn. May I take this opportunity of congratulating you on your new position.
-@Lotus Eater
Well, don't be sorry because that conflicts with your pompous image . As for what the pea said, the question is what she did not say, in this case dealing with the topic of short term tourists. Gio did say it though. You may infer I am an ass which is OK given that when people lose grasp of a topic with nothing concrete to say, the weak minded typically resort to ad hominem insults and I would expect nothing less from you. All I did was to frankly address a concern a concern that did not originate with me but rather than provide an intelligent response you go on your chismis rant. Hopefully today will find you in a better mood.
-@danfinn

Do you suffer from high blood pressure?
-@Lotus Eater

Boring sir. Yawn.

danfinn

@danfinn For a tourist it is not nice, but for the Phillipines every tourist is 500 pesos extra. that makes the box tick. But thats only 10 bucks. And 3000 for an extension is only 50 bucks. In your home country you would probably pay more on tax, while in the Phillipines your income from your homecountry you pay no tax over it at all. And in your home country wich for me at the moment is Switserland, you dont have to pay tax anymore wenn you leave. In other words i dont pay taxes at all anymore, exept for some source tax from pensions of other countries i have pensions off, but thats not much. As i look at it in my situation i would lose in one year only 300 bucks to extensions. I will not even notice that.
-@Ivo sonnenberg

It isn't the money, obviously. It is scheduling the trip to a district BI office and staying at some hotel until the ECC is issued. This wastes vacation time. Nobody cares about the 500 pesos. Get it now?

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