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Last activity 18 June 2024 by mitchellvassie

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mitchellvassie

Dear all, it's been a while!

I see there are a few posts that relate to visas here, but I have some quite specific questions that I would like to ask. I hope someone can help. I will try to be succinct.


I've been in Hanoi for over 2 years.

I had a work permit.

I had 1 year contracts.

My employer decided to add a $5000 pay back clause to my next yearly contract to lock me in. I needed to refuse.

I am now on rolling 3 month contracts, and 3 month business visa that naturally require visa runs.

I have been approached by a new company who wants to employ me legitimately and intends to apply for a work permit.

My understanding is that work permits can take a lot of time to arrange, so I am assuming that I will need to leave the country at the end of my current visa (9th August).

My questions to you are here:-

  1. What are the exact documents I need to re-enter on a 3 month business visa? And is this possible if I have a new employer and contract?


       2. When I first came here I needed to have various documents verified (great seal, appostilled, stamped etc.) In my home country. If my new employer is applying for a work permit, can the police check and proof of expertise letter come from Vietnam?  Do you know if the old approved documents can be used?  I have my degree certificate originals and I know I will need to do another health check here in Hanoi. I'm most anxious about the letter of expertise.


I ask here as i've read a lot of different requirements.


Thank you all. Very much appreciated.

Mitchell

OceanBeach92107

I have been approached by a new company who wants to employ me legitimately and intends to apply for a work permit.
My understanding is that work permits can take a lot of time to arrange, so I am assuming that I will need to leave the country at the end of my current visa (9th August).


A legal work permit must be completed within 90 days of you physically beginning your job on a signed contract.


The actual process is usually much quicker than that (<30 days)


What are the exact documents I need to re-enter on a 3 month business visa? And is this possible if I have a new employer and contract?


You can reenter on a 90 day tourist visa without a formal approval of the employer's application to hire you.


Otherwise, your employer needs to first apply for government approval to hire a foreigner for a specific position AND THEN apply for you to specifically receive a letter of approval to enter on a Visa On Arrival.



       2. When I first came here I needed to have various documents verified (great seal, appostilled, stamped etc.) In my home country. If my new employer is applying for a work permit, can the police check and proof of expertise letter come from Vietnam?  Do you know if the old approved documents can be used?  I have my degree certificate originals and I know I will need to do another health check here in Hanoi. I'm most anxious about the letter of expertise. -@mitchellvassie


In order to have your LD2 visa approved, your work permit must be approved.


In order for that to happen you'll almost certainly need to redo your dossier for employment, as notarizations are only considered valid for 6 months.


Copies of your original documents can sometimes be notarized at your embassy here (check with your embassy to see) and then taken to an office of the Vietnam Foreign Service (MoFA) where they will translate documents AND notarize the signature of the foreign service officer at your embassy/consulate.


However, for copies of documents that were originally notarized in your home country MORE THAN SIX MONTHS AGO, you may be required to get them renotarized.


Again, see if your embassy can help with that.


All expert positions here have different requirements for degree(s) and experience, so your employer should get a determination from the government as to what will be required for your work permit.


Then, if necessary, you can look into having your work experience here certified.


Hopefully you are still on good terms with the previous employer who would need to provide that certification.


This is just complicated enough that you might want to consider getting an attorney to handle this for you.


Good luck!


O.B.

ajairon

@mitchellvassie Hello,


In Vietnam you can work with short contracts n-times, but the Work Permit excemption only applies for the first 3 months, after that limit Work Permit turns mandatory. Consequently I prefer not to ask how you were working.


In cases such a Teacher position, the respective certification is mandatory.


First you will be required to get a Visa for working (or for business depending of what you will do), once you get it the HealthCheck and WorkPermit can be issued while you are working. Remember: this VISA and WP are transmitted by your sponsor only.


Regarding what papers you need: the HR departments have the experience and/or usually have the service of an Agency. You should ask them what papers they need. Usually it consist in a full copy of your passport, three pictures, a proof of ProfessionalQualifications, and maybe also a PoliceClearence/CriminalRecord from your country of origin and from countries you have been in the last year as well.


As a proof of your qualification/experience, you can offer a notarized copy of your previous Viet-contracts. A Viet-ConsularStamped copy of your professional degree is currently mandatory for Teaching possitions only, but helps for any kind of job)


Regarding your question: are Viet-ConsularStamped copies lifetime? Yes!!! You are Mitchell, Engeneer, Experienced all your life  ...but, but, but let's guess the rules of the game: 3 months ago you were single/healthy/goodguy, but today we dont know.... and so on, now you know what it means and applies in the whole world.


Although your degrees and experiences are lifetime, @OceanBeach92107 is 99.99999% right and the Agents may require recent certified copies of everything and you should better NOT discuss with them.

mitchellvassie

OB,

Thank you for your thorough and clear reply!

Very very helpful.

Cheers,

Mitchell.

mitchellvassie

@ajairon


Thank you for your extremely clear feedback! This is great!.


I appreciate it.


Best Wishes,

Mitchell.

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