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ahmedyoussef12377

Hello, I received and automated reply from my gemeente on the requirements for applying for the Belgian citizenship. One thing I do not understand is the integration part. It looks as follows: Integratie

Neem 1 van deze documenten mee om jouw integratie te bewijzen:

- Attest van inburgering

Let op: Een attest van deelname, inschrijving of van resultaat is niet goed.

- Certificaat beroepsopleiding van minimum 400 uur met gevolgde uren en 234 gewerkte dagen van 7,6 uur 

Let op: de opleiding moet aanvaard zijn door de Vlaamse overheid.

Ben je werknemer (geweest)? 

Individuele rekeningen (= jaaroverzichten) van 2019 tot 2023 en loonbrieven 2024 met gewerkte uren

Heb je deze documenten niet? Vraag ze aan jouw werkgever.

Ben je zelfstandig (geweest)? 

Loopbaanattest sociaal verzekeringsfonds (bijvoorbeeld Liantis, Xerius of Acerta) met vermelding dat jouw betalingen in orde zijn

Let op: jouw attest mag niet ouder dan 6 maanden zijn bij jouw afspraak.

- Diploma minimum hoger secundair onderwijs

Let op: de opleiding moet in het Nederlands, Frans of Duits zijn.

I understand the first option is to go through an integration course and the third one is to have a diploma from Belgium. However, I was more aiming for the second one since I have been working in Belgium for 5 years but I don't seem to understand what's required there.

See also

Traveling to BelgiumSingle permit processing 2025Changes to nationality application procedureLanguage requirement for nationality applicationDocuments for nationality from MyMINfin
maharaji1984

@ahmedyoussef12377

Individual rekeningen a document that you should ask your secreterial from the  work place if you are employee.

It is indicating in 5 years how long your social controbitions paid in a 4 quartal per year.

ahmedyoussef12377

@maharaji1984 so this is just one document that I can ask my current work for? + Payslips of ONLY 2024? Do I understand this right?

maharaji1984

@ahmedyoussef12377 yes for  2019-2023 indivudial rekeningen for  2024  payslips with worked hours. (normally its in this way)

BTW this documents requried for citizenship? Not the unlimited residence permit?  if its for citizenship is that all ?

ahmedyoussef12377

@maharaji1984 Yes, they're needed for citizenship

chaptex24

@ahmedyoussef12377 I got my citizenship just last week thUrsday. For me i provided individuele rekening from October 2019 to December 2023 from all the different places i had worked. The registrar at the gemeente said i had provided enough because they needed only 458days and mine was close to a 1000.

maharaji1984

@ahmedyoussef12377 did they ask just mentioned documents?

ahmedyoussef12377

@maharaji1984 they just sent me the required documents in an automated reply.


For the rest they wanted my birth certificate, passport, I'd and language proof.

GuestPoster1477822

@chaptex24

Do you know how do they count 458 days?

chaptex24

@Nayan Lama Just work for at least 1 and half year. that will add up to 458 days

brla15

@chaptex24 hi, i suspect that you were able to show proof of social integration in another way, thus your individuele rekeningen was to prove economic participation. in that aspect, the requirement is only 465 days. as i understood, the OP would like to use his work as proof of social integration, thus, it has to be 5 years of working.

yashuu1991

@chaptex24

from where i can get/download individual rekening?

maharaji1984

@yashuu1991

Secreteriat from your employer.

yashuu1991

@maharaji1984

i have changed 2 empoyers in 5 years.. is it possible to get it online?

maharaji1984

@yashuu1991

Normally your employer have to sent you every year and termination of your contract.

If you dont have , contact with your previous employers.


On the other hand you can find from where you can ask this documents :   My Fin portal / Mijn Documenten/Fiche 281.10 - Lonen


In this document Afzender is your secreteriat. Contact with them and get your documents.


Good luck

Srizzy

Even if u have worked for 5+ years straight, do you still need to prove language proficiency?

hssn601

Even if u have worked for 5+ years straight, do you still need to prove language proficiency? - @Srizzy

If it is without a break not even one day then you don't need any language certificate.

umairsaeed01

@hssn601

so basically you mean to show a proof of your payslips for 5 straight years without interruption.

hssn601

@hssn601
so basically you mean to show a proof of your payslips for 5 straight years without interruption. - @umairsaeed01


Yes thats what i submitted.

Srizzy

If you have worked with only one company for 5 years, it would qualify as uninterrupted?

umairsaeed01

@Srizzy

yes from what I have learnt - you need to have a record of previous 60 months payslips = 5 years

hssn601

If you have worked with only one company for 5 years, it would qualify as uninterrupted? - @Srizzy


Also you have had an address in belgium and never de regestered.

Srizzy

So if I have changed addresses multiple times in the course of 5 years, that's ok? As long as i have registered with the commune on the address change within 8 working days?

hssn601

So if I have changed addresses multiple times in the course of 5 years, that's ok? As long as i have registered with the commune on the address change within 8 working days? - @Srizzy


Changing address is not a problem.

Srizzy

How does the legalisation of the birth certificate work?

Srizzy

What is the date that will indicate you have completed 5 years?


1) is it the date on your first A card

2) is this the date you first went to the commune to get the annexe?


Kindly let me know which date is applicable.