U.S. Philippines Ambassador warns of deportation under Trump

Henny Penny said to Turky Lurky the sky is falling.

For the numbers, millions & millions of illegals have crossed the border in the last 3 1/2 years.

And yet there maybe 250,000 to 300,000 Filipinos that are illegal, most to all these Filipinos once entered the country legally and stayed after their Visa expired.

They are last on in priority list, they have been here for years and years.Over time many of them have married Americans.

I seriously doubt any traveled recently to Mexico and crossed the border. There are over four million Filipinos in America, so if 300,000 are illegal that leaves 3,700,000 that are legal.

Many of these Filipinos are educated compared to all those others who have crossed the border in the last 3 1/2 years. The average income for a Filipino to American marriage is over $100,000. They pay taxes and not a drain on the economy.

Yup the sky is falling.

Henny Penny said to Turky Lurky the sky is falling.

Yup the sky is falling.                                                  - @Enzyte Bob

Maybe it is on them Bob

They are staying in a foreign country illegally. I don't see any issues.

They are staying in a foreign country illegally. I don't see any issues. - @Fred

Maybe so, Fred

So as Bob writes, goodbye to your top huddled classes

And, this will maga? Well whatever, none of my business

Happy trails gents

I have no problem kicking out illegals.

The UK is experiencing a rise in racist stupidity, and the ultra right is using illegals to push their silliness.

Legal migration is good, but illegal immigration is bad on a number of levels.

Much as I think Trump is a bloody idiot, he's right about that policy

They are staying in a foreign country illegally. I don't see any issues. - @FredMaybe so, FredSo as Bob writes, goodbye to your top huddled classesAnd, this will maga? Well whatever, none of my business Happy trails gents - @PalawOne

I think it is huddled MASSES, not CLASSES hahaha, as inscribed on the statue of liberty by some French artist. At that time, masses of LEGAL immigrants were coming in to New York and given admission if they passed a medical exam. Today there are no huddled masses, just criminals and economic refugees trying to achieve a higher standard of living by illegally crossing our border. Now we talk of mass deportations...Great idea for illegal aliens, however, my understanding is that the focus will be on the criminal element who have snuck in. We need to find these killers/rapists and drug pushers and deport them according to law. As for the non-criminal economic refugees who are trying to steal a highet standard of living from lower class blacks and Hispanics, perhaps deportation is not necessary as they will leave on their own if employment laws were enforced; in that case they could not steal US jobs without legal status.

https://www.philstar.com/opinion/2024/05/02/2351877/pinoy-issues-america

Yes, agreed .. as long as he does it with respect and dignity .. without brutality

Quote: "The great American dream"

At the City Hall of Daly City, our group of visiting journalists met with.. the Filipino Community Center (FCC).

The Filipino Migrant Center, for its part, said that “one in four Filipinos in the US are undocumented and continue to face difficult challenges such as lack of meaningful work with decent pay at a living wage; lack of comprehensive personal and family benefits; of dignity, respect and fair treatment at work; racism, bogus assimilation and a coercive Philippine labor export policy.”

Amid all these challenges, it doesn’t mean that life in the US has shattered the great American dream of many Filipinos. Many still dream of making a life here and at least two million Filipinos still leave the Philippines every day. Sadly, some of them are forced to toil in distant lands, including the US, because of the difficult conditions back home. But I fervently hope that Fil-Ams in America will overcome the challenges."

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@Enzyte Bob

Illegal immigration’s have been a problem much longer than the last 3.5 years. So there is a very high % of illegal immigrants. In NY almost all restaurants have undocumented workers that buy faked papers since it can take years before the government find out. A high % also have kids born here and that will be a problem since the kids can stay and the parents are not welcome. Most undocumented Filipinos I know here get married and start their legal process as soon as they leave the court house so it’s not to many undocumented married people here unless they are both undocumented and then it’s a more difficult process.

@danfinn it seems like they are targeting all immigrants and the life that Trump have and have spread during the last 4 years is that all immigrants are rapists and criminals and bad people overall. Trump hit a lot of votes from Bronx in NY ghat have a high population of Hispanic immigrants so it will be interested if the legal immigrants will start calling on the undocumented.

It struck me there were lots of illegal US citizens in the Philippines when it was a colony.

The locals wanted them out, so booting illegal  Fillies out of the US is nothing they can moan about.

Durianmike said to danfinn. . . it seems like they are targeting all immigrants and the life that Trump have and have spread during the last 4 years is that all immigrants are rapists and criminals and bad people overall. Trump hit a lot of votes from Bronx in NY ghat have a high population of Hispanic immigrants so it will be interested if the legal immigrants will start calling on the undocumented.

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Yes prior to the last 3 1/2 years it was estimated up to 20 million. Largely from central America trying to escape poverty and violence.

But within the last 3 1/2 years these illegals represent over 100 countries. Escaping who knows what, going to who knows where, not knowing even who they are. Over 10,000 dangerous people we know of not counting the get-a-ways.

In 2022. . . .  329,347 men and 75,678 women were apprehended crossing the border.

Just think 329,347 landscapers

Fred said. . . It struck me there were lots of illegal US citizens in the Philippines when it was a colony.
The locals wanted them out, so booting illegal Fillies out of the US is nothing they can moan about.

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It struck me this statement can not be back up, grasping at straws.

What would happen to an expat residing in the Philippines illegally? I assume much the same as would happen in Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Indonesia.....

"Bye, Felicia"

Fred said. . . It struck me there were lots of illegal US citizens in the Philippines when it was a colony.
The locals wanted them out, so booting illegal Fillies out of the US is nothing they can moan about.
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It struck me this statement can not be back up, grasping at straws. - @Enzyte Bob

Iraq, Vietnam, Panama, and loads of others where heavily armed US citizens illegally massed into other people's countries.

Perhaps the US should stay quiet. 🤣

I am an American. I am also an attorney. I married a beautiful Filipina lady with 2 amazing kids over 6 years ago. Our original plan was for me to retire to the Philippines. But my stepdaughter got into Juilliard. She is one of the greatest classical singers in the world. But that necessitated them relocating to the U.S. and for them to get green cards and eventually become citizens. It took a longer time than it should have because of COVID, but it was not hard. It was expensive. I did all of the forms. I prepped them for their interviews. And everything went smoothly.

If you have been in the U.S. for more than 90 days, and do not have a visa that allows for it, then you are in violation of U.S. law. My wife and kids had to overstay by a few days because of intricacies in immigration law and creating sufficient time between arrival and marriage so as to not raise any red flags. But the longer the overstay, the less forgiving the U.S. is. Please try to obtain a visa and then your green card. If you cannot, then please return to the Philippines and try to get a visa from the Philippines.

I do not think President Trump will discriminate against folks who come here legally. Especially if you have not committed any crimes and have not used welfare. We need immigrants. We just need immigrants to come here legally. If you need help, please contact me. I will do what I can to help.

@PalawOne

The ambassador is misled, probably by Biden employees in the State Department who think we just elected hitler. I am surprised he was allowed to make a statement like that. I am quite surprized at the huge number of Filipino illegals there. I believe far more enforcement is taken on American illegals here than on Philippine illegals there. I knew several when I lived there and I never heard heard of any being deported.

Trump is a negotiator, He's giving scary notice to ALL illegals to scare some of them into leaving on their own volition.

He announced that he IS going after the ones who have been given deportation notices and haven't shown up, and the criminals and rapists (yes, some of the illegals are criminals--maybe a small percentage, but that's TOO MANY, and they are wrecking havoc in American cities).

Yes, we need the labor, preferably cheap labor. But labor that is competing fairly with Americans, although that may mean some prices increase due to higher--but fair--labor costs. I'm as much a capitalist as anyone, but it's immoral for business to cheat by paying people less than the going wage for legal workers because they can take advantage. If legal immigrants (like some farm workers) want to work for less than Americans are willing to take, that's fine with me. The key word is LEGAL, since we aspire to actually be a country of laws.

Trump is a lot more rational than many give him credit for.

bizwizard mentioned. . . .Yes, we need the labor, preferably cheap labor. But labor that is competing fairly with Americans, although that may mean some prices increase due to higher--but fair--labor costs.

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One thing that was a misconception heard the reason Black & Hispanics voted for Trump that illegals would take their jobs. So it implied to many that Blacks & Hispanics have the bottom of the rung jobs.

What an insult.

It's not doctors, lawyers, engineers or college educated people crossing the border. What's crossing the borders is mobs of young males who have no skills at all, they would be taking jobs from other illegals who get paid under the table, pay no taxes and yet take advantage of our social programs.

Blacks & Hispanics voted for Trump because they wanted the nation to have a brighter future.

@bizwizard

Trumps immigration policies do make sense. The Biden administration has made a joke out of our borders.  Trump will finish the wall and start deportation for those who came in the country illegally during the past 4 years.  He will boost the morale of ICE and Border Patrol stopping the mass exodus of their employees. The USA is the laughing stock of the world for not securing its borders properly.  This needs to change. The focus then needs to be, speeding up the process for legal immigration especially focusing on skilled workers. Unfortunately the Democrats don’t want these type of immigrants as they might not vote Democrat in future elections. I simply cannot understand the mentality of Americans who think the current immigration policies/ border security is working and even applaud the current unfettered illegal immigration invasion and subsequent handouts to the very people breaking our laws. Utterly ridiculous!

@Enzyte Bob

“Blacks & Hispanics voted for Trump because they wanted the nation to have a brighter future.”

that is exactly right. They’re tired of the Democratic Party, giving them empty promises every four years and relying on their vote to get increasingly left-wing progressives elected.  It’s funny how the republican party is now the party of the  working people and the Democrat party is now the party of the elite.

@Fred

Really! Thank God the majority of Americans don’t share your view.

Went in to a left-leaning, progressive bookstore and asked whether they had that new book about deporting every single one of the illegal migrants living in America.

The blue-haired clerk looked at me and said, "Get the f**k out, and don't come back!"

I said, "Yeah! That's the one! Do you have it in paperback?"

@Fred
Really! Thank God the majority of Americans don’t share your view. - @Morgacj200424

Fred likes a bit of controversy and enjoys ‘baiting’ our American friends. He spends most of his time in hibernation on the languid Indonesian Forum where the debates are somewhat lethargic albeit informative. .

Anytime now I expect Coach53 will drop by..

@danfinn it seems like they are targeting all immigrants and the life that Trump have and have spread during the last 4 years is that all immigrants are rapists and criminals and bad people overall. Trump hit a lot of votes from Bronx in NY ghat have a high population of Hispanic immigrants so it will be interested if the legal immigrants will start calling on the undocumented. - @Durianmike

Not exactly, they are not targeting all immigrants, however, every alien that snuck in illegally is fair game, given that their very presence in the USA is illegal. This is no different than Philippines BI policy, correct? Naturally they will start with 1) criminal element and 2) the one million who were ordered deported in court by due process but still remain; those are the priorities. In this election, it has become very clear that masses of LEGAL immigrants want the illegals deported...they don't call them "undocumented", they call them illegal which is what they are. Legal immigrants and black are in general more negatively impacted by the illegals than whites.

@PalawOne

Omg you mean those rich greedy republicans are going to deport the cheap labor that democrats said they wanted?  I don't understand how that works.  I do like the sky is falling analogy though.  Btw, ice isn't going after philippinos.  They are focused on terrorists and gang members that were allowed to cross the border under the current administration.  I think you picked the wrong group to submit your fake pleas for help.

@thedfords

Correct, they will go after the Ilegal aliens who have been pouring over the border for the last 4 years. Criminals first then everyone else. Overstays and other immigrants are a last priority. It’s about time the USA secures its borders like every other industrialized nation.  So sick and tired of these lefties who think all of this is ok!

@thedfords
Correct, they will go after the Ilegal aliens who have been pouring over the border for the last 4 years. Criminals first then everyone else. Overstays and other immigrants are a last priority. It’s about time the USA secures its borders like every other industrialized nation. So sick and tired of these lefties who think all of this is ok! - @Morgacj200424

lol Obama deported more than Trump did, and it isn't even close.

ohh I get it, so they're going to ask illegal aliens if they are criminals or not then deport. No, wait. They're going to scour the internet for criminal illegal aliens, then go getem. Overstays are a last priority. hmmm... wasn't very damn long ago overstays were the MAJORITY of illegal aliens. Haven't seen the numbers last few years. But that time DID include during Trump's first stint in office.

"overstays and other immigrants are a last priority". WTF exactly does that mean?

1. Is an overstay not in fact an illegal alien?
2. How PRECISELY are "other immigrants" illegal? Or are you just saying (as expected) deport them all because they're not born here. Except of course if they're European and fair skinned.

Your statement REEKS of entitlement disease.

At what point in time was it decided that living in the US was a "human right"?

As seasoned expats, I'm sure most of us are aware of the repercussions of being in contravention of our host country's immigration laws.

At what point in time was it decided that living in the US was a "human right"?
As seasoned expats, I'm sure most of us are aware of the repercussions of being in contravention of our host country's immigration laws. - @Aidan in HCMC

Nobody, Dems nor Republicans have ever said it's a "human right" to live in America. Or any other country for that matter. So what hole exactly are you pulling that out of?

...So what hole exactly are you pulling that out of?
- @Larry Fisher

Such class.

Ad hominem attacks are the refuge of scoundrels.

Larry Fisher said . . . lol Obama deported more than Trump did, and it isn't even close.
ohh I get it, so they're going to ask illegal aliens if they are criminals or not then deport. No, wait. They're going to scour the internet for criminal illegal aliens, then go getem.

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Other factors to consider Obama vs. Trump deportations.

(1) Stay in Mexico policy (How can you deport someone who could not enter the country?)

(2) The border portion of the wall constructed (500 miles) kept Illegals from entering.

(3) Potential new illegals knew it would be futile to try to enter the US illegally mentioned because of above (1) (2)

Well over 100,000 illegals are now in custody, that's a good place to start deportation.

@Enzyte Bob While I understand the basis for "stay in Mexico" policy, that is not how our immigration law is written. Obviously you're speaking of LEGAL immigration. Which includes asylum seekers. If they're applying for status, they are in-fact, not illegal by definition.

Trump's wall, the 500 miles that Mexico paid for *cough* was mostly teardown-replacement and did not "keep illegals from entering" as I quote your statement. Here's the real thing: Illegal immigration increased. Apprehensions at the Southwest border rose 14.7% last year compared with 2016. **referring to 2020 and the results of the Trum first presidency.

I'm all for deporting ILLEGALS. But that doesn't mean every "alien" is illegal.

@Enzyte Bob While I understand the basis for "stay in Mexico" policy, that is not how our immigration law is written. Obviously you're speaking of LEGAL immigration. Which includes asylum seekers. If they're applying for status, they are in-fact, not illegal by definition.
Trump's wall, the 500 miles that Mexico paid for *cough* was mostly teardown-replacement and did not "keep illegals from entering" as I quote your statement. Here's the real thing: Illegal immigration increased. Apprehensions at the Southwest border rose 14.7% last year compared with 2016. **referring to 2020 and the results of the Trum first presidency.

I'm all for deporting ILLEGALS. But that doesn't mean every "alien" is illegal. - @Larry Fisher

I was under the impression that asylum seekers (not migrants) are obligated to apply for asylum in the first "safe" country they land in which is not subjecting them to persecution. Being an asylum seeker does not turn the world into their oyster, picking and choosing which host nation they prefer to reside in. If I'm wrong about this I'm happy to be corrected.

...So what hole exactly are you pulling that out of?
- @Larry Fisher
Such class.
Ad hominem attacks are the refuge of scoundrels.
- @Aidan in HCMC

Ad hominem attacks are a favorite tactic of the TDS people on this forum. They think it strengthens their logically weak positions.

Larry said: “ohh I get it, so they're going to ask illegal aliens if they are criminals or not then deport. No, wait. They're going to scour the internet for criminal illegal aliens, then go getem. Overstays are a last priority. hmmm... wasn't very damn long ago overstays were the MAJORITY of illegal aliens. Haven't seen the numbers last few years. But that time DID include during Trump's first stint in office.

"overstays and other immigrants are a last priority". WTF exactly does that mean?

Is an overstay not in fact an illegal alien?

How PRECISELY are "other immigrants" illegal? Or are you just saying (as expected) deport them all because they're not born here. Except of course if they're European and fair skinned.

Your statement REEKS of entitlement disease”

Stop with the word entitlement already you sound just like Kamala and we know what happened to her. I retired 21 years + in a law enforcement position. Believe it or not US Immigration can check a persons criminal hx both here and in other countries. I know you are not stupid so I will assume that was sarcasm on your part. The difference between overstays and other illegals is simple. A person on overstay status came here legally usually through a work or tourist visa and then violated the conditions of stay. They did not simply run across our border.  Obviously those persons are less of a threat because they were previously vetted prior to being given a visa. Your other comments regarding race and birthright are insulting, vile and do not warrant a response.

At what point in time was it decided that living in the US was a "human right"?
As seasoned expats, I'm sure most of us are aware of the repercussions of being in contravention of our host country's immigration laws. - @Aidan in HCMC

That's OK because, whatever the previous corrupt bureaucrats and Biden decided in the past, that is down in flames after Nov 5 and now the PEOPLE have decided that the rest of the world has no "human right" to live in our homeland. So the PEOPLE elected Trump to restore sanity to fix pur immigration mess and he has appointed Tom Homan as border czar and Kristi Noem to Homeland security to restore lawful policy and enforce the immigration laws already on the books. Another awesome result of the 2024 election. I'm sure you agree, one of many.

At what point in time was it decided that living in the US was a "human right"?
As seasoned expats, I'm sure most of us are aware of the repercussions of being in contravention of our host country's immigration laws. - @Aidan in HCMC

That's OK because, whatever the previous corrupt bureaucrats and Biden decided in the past, that is down in flames after Nov 5 and now the PEOPLE have decided that the rest of the world has no "human right" to live in our homeland. So the PEOPLE elected Trump to restore sanity to fix pur immigration mess and he has appointed Tom Homan as border czar and Kristi Noem to Homeland security to restore lawful policy and enforce the immigration laws already on the books. Another awesome result of the 2024 election. I'm sure you agree, one of many. - @danfinn

I guess I should have qualified my question, "At what point in time was it decided that living in the US was a "human right"?"

What I meant was that the migrants themselves seem to have decided that it is their right to live in the US. It was not meant as an indictment against a political party which my question, admittedly, may have been interpreted to be. Apologies for that. Where/when/how the migrants got that apparent notion is beyond me.

Heck, until a couple of months ago I had no idea which US party sported red, the other blue. I had no idea which of the two main political parties was referred to as the "GOP", and I still don't know (or care, really) which is represented by the burro and which by the pachyderm😉.

I had no idea which of the two main political parties was referred to as the "GOP", and I still don't know (or care, really) which is represented by the burro and which by the pachyderm😉.
- @Aidan in HCMC

Colours are the other way around from England, and the GOP has a long nose. Also, the GOP, like many men, is ruled by a dic ..... tionary.

I didn't understand the fancy words you used because I was born before 1880 - no education for me.

It's a very touchy feely topic. I do believe in human rights but also believe they need to be earnt,,,,,, maybe I'm a hard ass but simply look at history with subjugation and dictatorships in so many countries and the ones that eventually stood up to the regimes to get a semblance of democracy and a free voice. Sad, so very sad.

All countries have immigration laws and are there for a reason, to protect the country and its constituents, little more and sure human rights come into it as do asylum claims but they need to be legitimate and vetted properly according to a countries laws and doctrines.

I remember the turmoil Australia went through in the 60's/70's  and 80's and the divisiveness created with the populace. The US is currently suffering the same problem.

Australia is an island and we were invaded from the oceans to the north and west, many never survived the  journey and many that did faced a harsh reality if landing there, arid and desolate lands and if the crocodiles didn't get them thirst and hunger did sadly.

It took a long time to deter the illegals, decades and involved lot of bucks either turning the boats away if seaworthy or locking the illegals up in detention facilities and sculling their boats, deporting them etc. They have stopped coming for 20 years as they know they are not welcome,,,,,, now those same coast guard and naval vessels patrol our northern water to deter illegal fishing in Australian territorial waters and the same thing, boats sculled, crews detained and deported and the fleet owners taken to court........ Less and less as the years roll on.

Look at it this way and I see it happen here in the Philippines. I have a vegetable garden and many fruit trees and seemed they were ripe for the picking by passers by and simply helped themselves to our produce and caught several and not even an apology, assumed it was a free for all. 8 and 9ft fences keep them out.

Maybe there is some sense in the trump wall?

If you want to immigrate or claim asylum there are systems in place and there for a reason instead of a free for all and breaking a countries laws no matter the country.

OMO.

Cheers, Steve.