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ISparkyI

Hi there.

I know that any information would mostly be either opinion, or to the best of someones knowledge, but thought I would I ask the question anyway. And please let me know if I have put this on the wrong forum, as I am very new to posting on any forum.

I am currently in a relationship with my girlfriend who lives in Indonesia. She is separated with her ex boyfriend from the UK and they have a child together. She gave birth to her son in Malaysia. They have never been legally married, yet he lied on the forms to say they were married for their childs birth certificate. So the birth certificate has both their names on it, and states where their son was born. They lived in Malaysia for a short period of time, and then moved to an Indonesian city where he worked, and they lived together also for a short period of time.

During that time, he was forever cheating, treating her like absolute trash, and physically assaulting her (she has the photos to prove it) She moved from the toxic relationship back to Indonesia to live with her parents and her son to get away from the relationship. He has threatened her numerious times that he will come take her son away from her and take him to the UK.

Her son now has an Indonesian and UK passport. He has threatened her to say he has "legal documents including from the UK to say his son is a british citizen, and malaysia where he was born". (his words). He believes that he has full rights of custody of her son and tells her that he will come and take him away.

Believe me when I say, this man is a compulsive liar, he is a dangerous individual and I believe he has full potential to cause harm to either her or her familly. He lives currently in Indonesia on a working Visa in a city not far from her own. She is wanting to move to another city to live with me and her son. She is always cooperative, always allows him to see or talk to their son whenever he wants, and has stated on numerous occasions that the relationship between him and his son would never change.

Yet he is completely uncooperative, tells her what to do, threatens her with numerous actions, They have been living apart for over 3 years. Their son is currently 5 turning 6 this year.

She is an amazing mother, full of love and support for her son, she never says bad things about the father in front of her son, and wants them to continue seeing each other in the future. But this latest threat I believe ie because he might feel he is losing control over his son, so his only answer is to take him away. As a boyfriend, I would never stop him from seeing his boy. The support that he sends is absolute minimal when you understand what kind of wages he is actually learning (around 600 Aus Dollars) per month. (I also understand that at least he sending something)

I guess what I am asking is, does he really have such custody over his son? If they are both living in Indonesia and they are not married, or never been married. What would any of you do in this situation? I 100% will not be walking away from this relationship and will give her all the support I can offer, as she truly is an amazing woman and terrific mother.

Any advice in this situation would be great. Thanks so much. And apologies that my first post is dramatic.

Fred

Massive trouble you don't need to be part of.

Apart from getting involved with a supposed violent man, the number of Malaysian, Indonesian, and possibly UK laws that have been broken (if the above is true) is prison time stuff.

As for legal custody, the mother has first say in everything, so it would have to be a kidnapping.

Domestic violence is a police matter, and that's enough to get him deported, or it would be if she hadn't broken a bunch of laws that could get her arrested as well.

If you interfere, the police are likely to get interested in you as well.


Run!


There is no other advice, even if you say you won't.

In Yorkshire, we are known for just saying what we want, so here goes.

You would have to be a prize pillock to hang around.

ISparkyI

Yeah I understand what you are saying and hopefully it doesn't go that direction and appreciate your advice. Just want her to be able to move on with her life.

As for the police being interested in me I haven't interfered at all so no fear there. I more fear for her safely and will do anything i can to ensure she's okay. If that means assisting her get the appropriate protection she requires in a legal process then that is fine. I am going to get legal help from someone in indonesia as my initial action. Possibly makes me a prize pillock but I also don't run away from threats or bullies.

wyngrove60

Totally agree with Fred on this.  The situation is really complicated and you do not know for sure if someone is playing you. The kids father is paying her money each month so obviously he cares about his child. I don't know how long you have been dating this woman, but doesn't she seem like a person who likes to go out with western men? For that reason alone I would have moved on. No offence meant!

nitzie181

@ISparkyI

You will get into big trouble's with what you will never do if you are still with this woman. This is not a about "love", and you are not for her shield and a support for all her problems and cases that are not into your business. Keep thinking logically and never let yourself to be used no matter how subtle..

Fred

Possibly makes me a prize pillock but I also don't run away from threats or bullies. - @ISparkyI

Do you realise, if the man claims to be married to her, you can be arrested for being alone together regardless of what is or isn't happening?


Running from bullies is no good, but running towards them doesn't display intelligence.


I won't post again on this thread as you have been warned of the possible dangers and been supplied with the only answer that will keep you out of trouble.

ISparkyI

Yeah it's no issue, and I do take each persons advice very seriously. I know this is not a game and have intelligence in dealing with situations like this. I appreciate opinions of people and have weighed up my options. Thanks so much for taking the time to reply.

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