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Dilqnka

Hi all here. My name is Dilyana, I am 36 years old, from Bulgaria. I want very much to come to work and live in Malta. Do you think, it is safe for a single woman to come alone and start looking for a job and work there?
Thank you for your opinion in advance.

Harmonie

Hello Dilyana and welcome to Expat.com!

Hope that you'll soon be enlightened.;)

You'll be looking for a job in which sector?

Harmonie.

Dilqnka

Hello, I am looking for a job in a hotel or a restaurant. I had several offers for interviews, but the problem is, that I am still in Bulgaria. That is why, I have to come there, but I can not find a person to come with me.

ricky

Hi Dilyana,

welcome to the forum.

As of yet the job market in Malta is not open for Bulgarian citizens. Conditions apply. That means that you will have to find an employer willing to apply for and pay for a work permit.

That is certainly very difficult if you are not in Malta. The chances of being granted a work permit depends on your qualifications and whether a Maltese or EU citizen can be found for the job.

It certainly is safe in Malta for a single woman, that won't be a problem. But the job will !

Cheers
Ricky

Aurélie

Hello Dilqnka.

You can try to post an advert in the jobs in Malta section. It can help.

Good luck in your research,
Aurélie

Dilqnka

Hello, I know that I have to got work permit, but that is not a problem for me to work without a contract in the begining. The problem is that I am alone:) and I have to look around an apartment to live in and any job.Should I assume this risk?

georgeingozo

Dilqnka wrote:

Hello, I know that I have to got work permit, but that is not a problem for me to work without a contract in the begining.


It wil be a problem if you get caught working without a permit !!

Dilqnka

Why it is so?

georgeingozo

because Bulgarians need a work permit

ricky

Hi Dilyana,

a contract is not a work permit ! You can sign a contract but that does not mean that you will get a work permit.

In the worst case you will work as a slave as you are working illegally.

Don't be fooled , the risk is not being single but being illegal !

Cheers
Ricky

Dilqnka

Hi, sure, you are right, but to recieve a work permit, first you have to got a contract with employer-am I right? And even that, my question was different-not about work permits. I know, that I will not be the only one, that is working illegally. ultimately, the state is one that allows it, since no one wants to deal with obtaining a work permit. Apparently it is easier and no one obliges the employer to do so. Matter of law, I think.

scubaboy

Dilqnka,

Welcome tot he Forum and as ricky has said it is safe for a woman in Malta and you will meet lots of new friends.

Yes, you need a work permit, yes it is law, yes there are lots of bars and resturants taking people on to work without permits....

Same as the UK and every other country....

Will you pay tax in this country by working illegally NO, will you pay NI by working illegally NO, will you help the country but putting money into the economy...yes DO I CONDONE IT NO!!

But as you also say its down to the goverment to put a stop to this and trust me they are... The Maltese people are starting to realise that they need Tax going back into the economy to boost the country, therefore if the Maltese find you are working illegally expect a call because they will go to the police and tell them.

Julian

georgeingozo

Dilqnka wrote:

I know, that I will not be the only one, that is working illegally..............Matter of law, I think.


so is deportation


Dilqnka wrote:

Apparently it is easier and no one obliges the employer to do so


If an employer gets caught employing a foreigner without a required work permit, they get a big fine, and yes it happens regularly

If you are really intending on working here illegally, you will get no further help from me, and, frankly, I hope from nobody on this forum.

scubaboy

Well Said George.

Dilqnka

OK, then tell me the way to ask employer to take work permit. It will be better for me, and for everyone, that is working there illegaly, to have legal status of residence and work. But no one, by now, is offer me this way of employment.What i have to do? And after all, I will be forced to pay my own insurance. So, please, do not think, that illegal work is better choice for anybody.

Toon

I agree 100%....the authorities do make regular visits and many of them are randomly timed on the spot calls based on reports....so be very very wary fo this - as George said DEPORTATION is also a very possible scenario and highly likely....so do it properly.

if you cant or wont do it properly dont bother coming here, i for one dont want you here - we have too many illegals already....we have no problem helping people but not in this way... sorry but thats the way it is.,

Dilqnka

toonarmy9752 wrote:

I agree 100%....the authorities do make regular visits and many of them are randomly timed on the spot calls based on reports....so be very very wary fo this - as George said DEPORTATION is also a very possible scenario and highly likely....so do it properly.

if you cant or wont do it properly dont bother coming here, i for one dont want you here - we have too many illegals already....we have no problem helping people but not in this way... sorry but thats the way it is.,


Well, I see it becomes a great problem. Can you help me then to recieve work permit?

georgeingozo

A work permit is for a specific job - you can't just apply for a work permit, and then find a job, its the other way round.

Dilqnka

Can I do that from here, or have to be in Malta?

scubaboy

I would suggest that you come to Malta, have enough money for at least 1 month.

Once you have found a company to work for that will go through the details of the work permit then you can work.  I have know companie to take people on but have told then that they will have to pay the cost of the work permit, which is about 160 Euro in total.

Good Luck

Julian

Toon

its easier when you are here - as not many employers hand jobs out to people who are not here.

Dilqnka

scubaboy wrote:

I would suggest that you come to Malta, have enough money for at least 1 month.

Once you have found a company to work for that will go through the details of the work permit then you can work.  I have know companie to take people on but have told then that they will have to pay the cost of the work permit, which is about 160 Euro in total.

Good Luck

Julian


And i have to pay for it by myself perhaps. So, thank you for this information. It was useful for me. In one word I have to come to Malta and start with everything there.

scubaboy

Yes,

That is the way to do it and we are here to help you do it properly.

Julian

Dilqnka

scubaboy wrote:

Yes,

That is the way to do it and we are here to help you do it properly.

Julian


Thank you. And I am going again to my first question-is it safe to go there alone?

georgeingozo

Dilqnka wrote:

Thank you. And I am going again to my first question-is it safe to go there alone?


As Ricky and others have already said - yes

Toon

Malta is one of the few safest places left in Europe

Dilqnka

Thank you very much all of you.

kirsty&lee

I have a romanian friend in malta...she and her friends used to walk home down a dark road at night from work, many people would stop snd ask them if they wanted to get in their cars. it took a coule of weeks but they soon realised there was no intent behind the offers, they just wanted to see them home safe.
I hope this puts your mind at ease

Dilqnka

kirsty&lee wrote:

I have a romanian friend in malta...she and her friends used to walk home down a dark road at night from work, many people would stop snd ask them if they wanted to get in their cars. it took a coule of weeks but they soon realised there was no intent behind the offers, they just wanted to see them home safe.
I hope this puts your mind at ease


Yes, I have this question, because here in my country is not safe.

Dilqnka

Can I share with you one job offer to tell me your opinion?
I would need you to come to our offices which are in Gzira, Malta with the following:
passport
cv
2 passport phots
any certificates and references that you hold
Together with all these i will fill in the application for employment licence and you will then take it to the Employment Training Centre in Hal Far together with 58 Euros for the application fee. The working permit normally takes a week to be issued.
Thanks for your interest

Toon

and just who is it that has sent this to you and what is their business?

Dilqnka

toonarmy9752 wrote:

and just who is it that has sent this to you and what is their business?


Bad boy cleaners is the name of the firm.

scubaboy

they are a good firm that does take on non EU, you will also be charged once the permit is ready for colection.

Julian

Dilqnka

scubaboy wrote:

they are a good firm that does take on non EU, you will also be charged once the permit is ready for colection.

Julian


So, I can trust them in that case. Thank you.

ricky

Hi Dilyana,

Bad Boy Cleaners is a well known name. What makes me suspicious is the fact that you are supposed to take the forms to the ETC in Hal Far. That is wrong! They should be doing all the work for non-EU citizens seeking work.

It takes a long time and involves looking for Maltese and other EU citizens willing to do the job. What is left is probably a low-paying slave job cleaning clorthes in a leathal environment that no Maltese or EU citizen is willing to do.

They are actually required by law to pay the fees and also pay for private health insurance.

Your work contract and residency will be linked to them and you can not terminate your work contract with them without leaving Malta.

The danger for you is certainly not on the streets of Malta but in working for the wrong people!

Cheers
Ricky

Dilqnka

ricky wrote:

Hi Dilyana,

Bad Boy Cleaners is a well known name. What makes me suspicious is the fact that you are supposed to take the forms to the ETC in Hal Far. That is wrong! They should be doing all the work for non-EU citizens seeking work.

It takes a long time and involves looking for Maltese and other EU citizens willing to do the job. What is left is probably a low-paying slave job cleaning clorthes in a leathal environment that no Maltese or EU citizen is willing to do.

They are actually required by law to pay the fees and also pay for private health insurance.

Your work contract and residency will be linked to them and you can not terminate your work contract with them without leaving Malta.

The danger for you is certainly not on the streets of Malta but in working for the wrong people!

Cheers
Ricky


Hi Ricky, is that mean that there is something unduly with their offer? And why for non EU citizens?

georgeingozo

Non-EU citizens can only do jobs that can't be filled by EU citizens - that means non-EU citizens end up doing either the jobs EU citizens don't want (min wage, dirty, dangerous), or the jobs they aren't qualified for (eg technical skills, language skills), so its either bottom end or top end/specialist

georgeingozo

Dilqnka wrote:

And why for non EU citizens?


Because EU citizens don't need a work permit

georgeingozo

Of course, Bulgaria is actually in the EU, but for now its workers are treated as if they are non-EU

georgeingozo

http://ec.europa.eu/social/main.jsp?catId=508&langId=en

Malta grants work permits [for Bulgarians] for positions that require qualified and/or experienced workers and for those occupations for which there is a shortage of workers.

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