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duyennguyen

Well, The nearest train station from Hatinh city is located in Huong khe district which is about 26 km from the city and it will cost you about 9usd for a private car. There are hotel near to the train station if you arrive late and wanna leave in the morning. The hotel will cost you about 10-15$/night.

I never been to that hotel before but it is invested by one the 242nd richest man in the world who is a son of Hatinh so I believe it could be a good one. You also can buy a 2 bedrooms apartment with about 50k$.

Guest2023

Momowo wrote:

Hi everyone. Reading the comments on here has upset me so I’m here to drop a quick 2 cents from one of the few expats in the city who adore Ha Tinh.

This thread has a bad case of being filled with a few bad experiences and none of the good ones.

There are currently just above 40 expats teaching English living and working in the city. This number has massively grown over the last two years and continues to grow slowly.

There is a solid group of about 15 of these people who have lived here for over two years and have no plans of moving on yet.
One of them says Ha Tinh is one of his three favourite places in the world. It is also one of mine.

I lived and worked in Ha Tinh for two years for a company previously mentioned in this thread. I became rather close to the family in charge and I had a great deal of knowledge about things going on.
I am also close to someone who owns another center in the city so I have some perspective on cross center issues such as salary and benefits.

I will also note that one of the centers in this thread which Matthew worked at is now under new management and has vastly improved since his post.

I would like to state that Mikey decided to break his contract early and moved to Cambodia after the contract was re-negotiated for his own benefit and the companies due to them not feeling his teaching was up to the required standard. (Very quiet in the classroom and could not manage public speaking events).
He also left without settling his taxes and the management were trying very hard to get him to leave the country fully legal (so as to not impede his choice to return to the country in the future);  even offering to pay some of it for him if he would pay the rest. He cut off communication and didn’t return from his “holiday” to Cambodia, effectively breaking his renegotiated contract.
He was also working during a period of time in which two employees ran away when the boss discovered they did not have the necessary legal documents to work in Vietnam and therefore couldn’t gain a work permit. Not a good two months for the company but this was no fault of theirs.

This is a company who would rather renegotiate the length of your contract rather than terminate your contract. This happened only three times during my two years due to standards of teaching. Contracts are usually 6-9 months initially and can extend. They also give plenty of time to find other employment if you do not fit the bill. Very considerate people.

In terms of the salary, yes it is a low starting salary but the cost of living in the city is seriously cheap, being one of the cheapest and poorest provinces in Vietnam. If you stay longer your contact is renegotiated for a higher rate of pay. Your accommodation is also provided free of charge along with a motorbike for your duration. They even cover a portion of your tax payments which makes a MASSIVE difference to the total salary considering the tax rate in Vietnam. They also guarantee you hours to work so your salary doesn’t drop due to lack of hours. Many other local Centers pay hourly and don’t guarantee hours.

Accommodation can be found from as little as 2 million per month up to 8 depending on how you choose to live.

There are great opportunities to teach in public and private schools in Ha Tinh too as many of the public schools have a foreign language program tied to a centre.

Over the last two years Ha Tinh has developed in ways that I really didn’t expect for the better. They are trying to modernise, slightly more western places are becoming available within the city, and Vinh city is only one hour away with everything you could need if Ha Tinh gets too much.

Ha Tinh is a peaceful place. Definitely not for people who want to party all the time and it there is a very small expat community but it is rather tight knit and very welcoming.
If you go to the beaches they are clean and quiet most of the time. Occasionally messy after the storms and noisy during party hours. There is a very quiet and clean resort outside of Ha Tinh too. The route to the beach is full of litter but this is the same throughout the whole of Vietnam.

Companies are usually very flexible about offering holiday time (I left for two months and came back on my contract with no problems at all). They also offer pay during the Tet holiday period for a few days of this time which many companies do not.

The students tend to love you because there are not many foreigners, and you gain a kind of celebrity status while you are there. While this may be draining it can also sometimes be rather exciting and rewarding.

All in all, the only reason I left Ha Tinh was because I found a partner living somewhere else and had to relocate for my relationship. I am still in touch with the company and have many local friends there.

Ha Tinh is “Real Vietnam”. If you want to know what life is like as a local go there. If you want an expat/tourist approach then don’t.

Ps: I am not the only person who adores Ha Tinh. Several expats I know have been there for the same amount of time or longer than I have and have no plans to leave. Unfortunately I am the first one to find this thread and make comment.

Please try to find both sides of the story before making decisions on this place.

The problem is negative and unhappy people complain and scream the loudest. The happy people don’t feel the need to make comments or search for what people think about the place.
Keep an open mind.


So you are saying you are right and everyone else is wrong. You loved it, most don't.

Another point, teachers are not required to sort out the tax, that is the schools job.

sanooku

colinoscapee wrote:
Momowo wrote:

Hi everyone. Reading the comments on here has upset me so I’m here to drop a quick 2 cents from one of the few expats in the city who adore Ha Tinh.

This thread has a bad case of being filled with a few bad experiences and none of the good ones.
.........................................
Ps: I am not the only person who adores Ha Tinh. Several expats I know have been there for the same amount of time or longer than I have and have no plans to leave. Unfortunately I am the first one to find this thread and make comment.

Please try to find both sides of the story before making decisions on this place.

The problem is negative and unhappy people complain and scream the loudest. The happy people don’t feel the need to make comments or search for what people think about the place.
Keep an open mind.


So you are saying you are right and everyone else is wrong. You loved it, most don't.


I don't feel s(he) is saying that. Just offering his/her perspective, albeit a different one.

You said yourself before that the AMA company was to blame and it's the same everywhere, and that 'at least the town is ok.' I think you've not been there, but was commenting on a previous post.

Guest2023

sanooku wrote:
colinoscapee wrote:
Momowo wrote:

Hi everyone. Reading the comments on here has upset me so I’m here to drop a quick 2 cents from one of the few expats in the city who adore Ha Tinh.

This thread has a bad case of being filled with a few bad experiences and none of the good ones.
.........................................
Ps: I am not the only person who adores Ha Tinh. Several expats I know have been there for the same amount of time or longer than I have and have no plans to leave. Unfortunately I am the first one to find this thread and make comment.

Please try to find both sides of the story before making decisions on this place.

The problem is negative and unhappy people complain and scream the loudest. The happy people don’t feel the need to make comments or search for what people think about the place.
Keep an open mind.


So you are saying you are right and everyone else is wrong. You loved it, most don't.


I don't feel s(he) is saying that. Just offering his/her perspective, albeit a different one.

You said yourself before that the AMA company was to blame and it's the same everywhere, and that 'at least the town is ok.' I think you've not been there, but was commenting on a previous post.


I stand by what I posted before. One poster says its great, the rest dont agree. Then states that the other posters are negative and unhappy, try reading between the lines.

Yeah, AMA is a crappy company, but the poster was stating that the employee had tax issues to sort out....wrong, its the schools job.

sanooku

colinoscapee wrote:
sanooku wrote:
colinoscapee wrote:

So you are saying you are right and everyone else is wrong. You loved it, most don't.


I don't feel s(he) is saying that. Just offering his/her perspective, albeit a different one.

You said yourself before that the AMA company was to blame and it's the same everywhere, and that 'at least the town is ok.' I think you've not been there, but was commenting on a previous post.


I stand by what I posted before. One poster says its great, the rest dont agree. Then states that the other posters are negative and unhappy, try reading between the lines.

Yeah, AMA is a crappy company, but the poster was stating that the employee had tax issues to sort out....wrong, its the schools job.


Actually, you may need to read between the lines.

No one said it was great to begin with. Initially it was a negative. See post #10 from back in 2016.

Then someone else said he also had a bad experience because the kids have a 'don't care' attitude, but the town itself isn't the worst. (post #18 from 2018)

Then you said the parents are to blame for the don't care attitude. But 'At least the town is ok.'

The positive posts came after. One of your buddies even posted a youtube link (post #40) of someone who bothered to make a video about village/town. Your buddy even commented on the video youtube channel that 'it was very helpful'.

One poster says its great..


if you read all the posts, I think you will see that there is more than one poster saying its great. e.g. post #39 also says its great.

If you really wanna find out about a city/town/village, i'd suggest looking at multiple sites, blogs, etc to get the full picture. Not just a thread on expat.com.

Guest2023

sanooku wrote:
colinoscapee wrote:
sanooku wrote:


I don't feel s(he) is saying that. Just offering his/her perspective, albeit a different one.

You said yourself before that the AMA company was to blame and it's the same everywhere, and that 'at least the town is ok.' I think you've not been there, but was commenting on a previous post.


I stand by what I posted before. One poster says its great, the rest dont agree. Then states that the other posters are negative and unhappy, try reading between the lines.

Yeah, AMA is a crappy company, but the poster was stating that the employee had tax issues to sort out....wrong, its the schools job.


Actually, you may need to read between the lines.

No one said it was great to begin with. Initially it was a negative. See post #10 from back in 2016.

Then someone else said he also had a bad experience because the kids have a 'don't care' attitude, but the town itself isn't the worst. (post #18 from 2018)

Then you said the parents are to blame for the don't care attitude. But 'At least the town is ok.'

The positive posts came after. One of your buddies even posted a youtube link (post #40) of someone who bothered to make a video about village/town. Your buddy even commented on the video youtube channel that 'it was very helpful'.

One poster says its great..


if you read all the posts, I think you will see that there is more than one poster saying its great. e.g. post #39 also says its great.

If you really wanna find out about a city/town/village, i'd suggest looking at multiple sites, blogs, etc to get the full picture. Not just a thread on expat.com.


Its obvious you have a lot of free time on your hands to go back through the whole thread.

Maybe this keeps you from worrying about the electricity in Vung Tau.

sanooku

colinoscapee wrote:
sanooku wrote:
colinoscapee wrote:


I stand by what I posted before. One poster says its great, the rest dont agree. Then states that the other posters are negative and unhappy, try reading between the lines.

Yeah, AMA is a crappy company, but the poster was stating that the employee had tax issues to sort out....wrong, its the schools job.


Actually, you may need to read between the lines.

No one said it was great to begin with. Initially it was a negative. See post #10 from back in 2016.

Then someone else said he also had a bad experience because the kids have a 'don't care' attitude, but the town itself isn't the worst. (post #18 from 2018)

Then you said the parents are to blame for the don't care attitude. But 'At least the town is ok.'

The positive posts came after. One of your buddies even posted a youtube link (post #40) of someone who bothered to make a video about village/town. Your buddy even commented on the video youtube channel that 'it was very helpful'.

One poster says its great..


if you read all the posts, I think you will see that there is more than one poster saying its great. e.g. post #39 also says its great.

If you really wanna find out about a city/town/village, i'd suggest looking at multiple sites, blogs, etc to get the full picture. Not just a thread on expat.com.


....... go back through the whole thread.
.....


Yes!. To set the record straight.

Perhaps it means I'm not selfish.

Guest2023

sanooku wrote:
colinoscapee wrote:
sanooku wrote:
colinoscapee wrote:

I stand by what I posted before. One poster says its great, the rest dont agree. Then states that the other posters are negative and unhappy, try reading between the lines.

Yeah, AMA is a crappy company, but the poster was stating that the employee had tax issues to sort out....wrong, its the schools job.


Actually, you may need to read between the lines.

No one said it was great to begin with. Initially it was a negative. See post #10 from back in 2016.

Then someone else said he also had a bad experience because the kids have a 'don't care' attitude, but the town itself isn't the worst. (post #18 from 2018)

Then you said the parents are to blame for the don't care attitude. But 'At least the town is ok.'

The positive posts came after. One of your buddies even posted a youtube link (post #40) of someone who bothered to make a video about village/town. Your buddy even commented on the video youtube channel that 'it was very helpful'.


if you read all the posts, I think you will see that there is more than one poster saying its great. e.g. post #39 also says its great.

If you really wanna find out about a city/town/village, i'd suggest looking at multiple sites, blogs, etc to get the full picture. Not just a thread on expat.com.


....... go back through the whole thread.
.....


Yes!. To set the record straight.

Perhaps it means I'm not selfish.


Perhaps it doesn't.

Great English for an Omani!!!

sanooku

colinoscapee wrote:
sanooku wrote:
colinoscapee wrote:


I stand by what I posted before. One poster says its great, the rest dont agree. Then states that the other posters are negative and unhappy, try reading between the lines.

Yeah, AMA is a crappy company, but the poster was stating that the employee had tax issues to sort out....wrong, its the schools job.


Actually, you may need to read between the lines.

No one said it was great to begin with. Initially it was a negative. See post #10 from back in 2016.

Then someone else said he also had a bad experience because the kids have a 'don't care' attitude, but the town itself isn't the worst. (post #18 from 2018)

Then you said the parents are to blame for the don't care attitude. But 'At least the town is ok.'

The positive posts came after. One of your buddies even posted a youtube link (post #40) of someone who bothered to make a video about village/town. Your buddy even commented on the video youtube channel that 'it was very helpful'.

One poster says its great..


if you read all the posts, I think you will see that there is more than one poster saying its great. e.g. post #39 also says its great.

If you really wanna find out about a city/town/village, i'd suggest looking at multiple sites, blogs, etc to get the full picture. Not just a thread on expat.com.


Its obvious you have a lot of free time on your hands to go back through the whole thread.
......


I always read the whole thread before commenting. That's how I knew what was going on.

Also, it's how come I can tell you, poster No #11 should have created a new thread (as his post was over 1 year after the last post)

OceanBeach92107

sanooku wrote:
colinoscapee wrote:
sanooku wrote:

Actually, you may need to read between the lines.

No one said it was great to begin with. Initially it was a negative. See post #10 from back in 2016.

Then someone else said he also had a bad experience because the kids have a 'don't care' attitude, but the town itself isn't the worst. (post #18 from 2018)

Then you said the parents are to blame for the don't care attitude. But 'At least the town is ok.'

The positive posts came after. One of your buddies even posted a youtube link (post #40) of someone who bothered to make a video about village/town. Your buddy even commented on the video youtube channel that 'it was very helpful'.


if you read all the posts, I think you will see that there is more than one poster saying its great. e.g. post #39 also says its great.

If you really wanna find out about a city/town/village, i'd suggest looking at multiple sites, blogs, etc to get the full picture. Not just a thread on expat.com.


Its obvious you have a lot of free time on your hands to go back through the whole thread.
......


I always read the whole thread before commenting. That's how I knew what was going on.

Also, it's how come I can tell you, poster No #11 should have created a new thread (as his post was over 1 year after the last post)


There is no "rule" about posting to a thread that's more than 1 year stale.

The system will give a courtesy notice, letting the poster know the thread is dormant, but anyone is free to post to old threads.

Since the thread title is simply "Ha Tinh" and there is no separate Expat. com setting for a Ha Tinh forum the OP*** makes this as good a thread as  any to use for all things related to Ha Tinh:

***

bluecheer wrote:

Hello everybody I'm looking for information on Ha Tinh City.
The usual things cost of rent,food,electric. I'm giving some thought as to doing some Teaching there, and if anybody can help with some information that would be gratefully appreciated.
Thanks.


As for MY post #40, I actually posted the wrong link.

It was for my friends channel.

This is the link to her specific post about Ha Tihn (which she loves because it is her hometown) in which she says that Ha Tihn is either "scorching" hot or "freezing" cold.

THAT was the most helpful part of the video for me.

Sincerely,

Colin's 'Buddy'

:D

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