Princess Noura University Jobs - Contacts/Suggestions Please!

Enviro save wrote:

Allicat don't u worry plz.i am not going to take admission here or join as teacher. stay happy

I'm certainly not worried   And I wish you all the luck in the world BUT we all should always have a Plan B!  You have to evaluate where you're falling short and change your objective.

i have done BS in computer science and want to apply in noura university as lecturer or in admin plz guide me about that how to apply for job there??

mahwish saleem wrote:

i have done BS in computer science and want to apply in noura university as lecturer or in admin plz guide me about that how to apply for job there??

I sincerely doubt that having just a Bachelors qualifies you to teach at the university level but hey, never hurts to try!  If you go to page 1 of this thread, Smurfette gave the PNU website link.

And here's that link again:  Job openings at PNU.

i have done msc in zoology and want to apply in noura university as lecturer or in admin plz guide me about that how to apply for job there??

LOL Is it just me or does anyone else see the joke in that post?

meem0 wrote:

LOL Is it just me or does anyone else see the joke in that post?

I get lots of laughs that I refrain from commenting on There's just no point--some people are beyond hope.

I MAKE A STUDENT IN JAMIA NOORAH . I PASSED THE M.A POLITICAL SCIENCE IN UOS PAKISTAN.

Hello mubbshirali -> Can you please lower your caps lock when writing so as to ease the reading?

Thank you,
Aurélie

Respected Sir,
                  I have done electronics & communication engineering. I have also gained Huawei gsm courses from UET LAHORE which includes (BSS, MSC, HLR).Besides these i have got networking professional courses from Corvit Lahore which includes (CCNA, CCNP, HCDA, MPLS).
plz give me a chance to prove myself .


best regards
sajid bashir

sajid108016 wrote:

Respected Sir,
                  I have done electronics & communication engineering. I have also gained Huawei gsm courses from UET LAHORE which includes (BSS, MSC, HLR).Besides these i have got networking professional courses from Corvit Lahore which includes (CCNA, CCNP, HCDA, MPLS).
plz give me a chance to prove myself .


best regards
sajid bashir

Who are you addressing this to? There are no recruiters here on this social network.

Also, if jobs from Princess Noura University are what you are targetting, it's a university for females purely.

mubbshirali wrote:

I MAKE A STUDENT IN JAMIA NOORAH . I PASSED THE M.A POLITICAL SCIENCE IN UOS PAKISTAN.

A whole student?  Wow!  Don't see many politics students with a sideline in genetics round here.

I have been trying to get a number for PNU and no luck.  Nothing on their website and the numbers That i have manged to get hold of don't work.  00966112290199 and 0966112290153.
Please can someone help me with a contact number.

hello, how i send my cv to pnu?anybody help me please

bariarif wrote:

hello, how i send my cv to pnu?anybody help me please

Scroll up.  Smurfette has given the email address several times.

i would like to work in princess noura university as a chemistry lecturer i'm residing in India Hyderabad city can anyone of u guide me whom to contact in the Noura university for this job application

Alliecat wrote:

Mis-managed nightmare BECAUSE Bell-Obeikan is running the show.  Google them--read the teacher forums.

Thought I'd share this article about a deplorable incident RE Bell-Obeikan (It's hot and I don't really have much energy to do anything else right now! ) To be fair, things may have changed, though change is slow here.  Also, by the way, something I have learned from being here is never, ever sign a petition in Saudi Arabia! That just doesn't fly here; it's a totally different kind of society.

Taken from http://obrag.org/?p=20423

By John M. Williams

Editor: Our friend John M Williams, currently working in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia as an English language instructor, and an former OBcean, sends an occasional post about life there. Here’s the latest.

Let me set the stage. The school I work in is a remedial college designed as a feeder for King Saud University (KSU). My school is called the Preparatory Year Program (PYP). Students take courses in English, physics, chemistry, biology, math, IT and a group of business related subjects.

The organization is a little complex, but let me try. At the top is King Abdullah. Then comes the Ministry of Education. Next is KSU. KSU contracted with a Saudi company named Obekan. Obekan hired Bell, a United Kingdom-based English language teaching charitable trust associated with Cambridge University. Bell recruited teachers, created the administrative structure, and runs the school on a day to day basis. The role of Bell is rather like that of a middle manager; they have very little real power, but are the face of the organization to teachers and students. [Very typical structure here, with the cosmetically suitable "face" in it for the money more than anything - read: they don't really care what employees go through - kathiri]

About two months ago, someone, presumably a teacher, posted an email to all teachers griping about the inequities of the cover rota. Cover rota is Brit-speak for substitutes list. The author noted that the “brothers,” meaning dark skinned Americans or Brits who had either converted to Islam or had been raised in the religion and wore thobs, were favored and “never” appeared on the list.

The email bothered me because it seemed clear it was an effort to sow the seeds of discord between one group of teachers and another (though in practice, “the brothers” don’t constitute any sort of a recognizable group), and between some of the teachers and Bell itself; those things, and the obviously anonymzing signature of “Mr. Smith.”

More recently, everyone connected with the PYP, excluding administrators, cleaners, and security guards (that would include teachers of every subject, students, administrative assistants, technicians, and the food service guys) eagerly anticipated a week’s break scheduled to begin on April 17th, as listed on the annual academic calendar published at the beginning of the school year. I was certainly looking forward to it; a week to lay around, download music and films, watch some TV, sleep in, catch up on correspondence, and read. It would also be a week without the flurry of emails from multiple administrators telling us in minute detail how to proceed in this or that seemingly ever changing policy. Many guys had already purchased plane tickets, put down money to reserve hotel rooms, and made plans with family and friends. No one had an inkling that this traditional, though, apparently, non-contractual, holiday would not occur as scheduled or that there would be any problem getting paid for the week.

That is, no one had an inkling until three weeks before the vacation was scheduled to begin. At that point, KSU contacted PYP administrators with the news that teachers would be required to be on campus during that week.

Take a guess: (A) Every teacher was onboard; no problem; whatever you say; non-refundable tickets and deposits be damned. (B) All hell broke loose.

I mentioned earlier Mr. Smith because, even though at the time of his “brothers” email he seemed like a one-shot nut, following the cancellation announcement, a message from him appeared in the inbox of all English teachers (brothers included). He had, he said, created an anonymous email group which included us all. [Uh-huh. Not a smart idea. Just because someone says it's anonymous doesn't mean it always will be! - kathiri] His intention, he said, was to provide a forum where interested teachers could anonymously post comments and opinions about the situation, and suggest responses or remedies for it.

This forum began operating on a Wednesday night, which is the end of the work week here. The emails began as a trickle, then the pace quickened. By Friday night, there had been about 200 comments.

Interestingly, given that this was an anonymous, teachers-only forum, Bell’s HR Manager put in his two cents.

The tone and content of the emails ranged from calm and reasonable to something appropriate for an old Hollywood film loosely based on the activities of the IRA. I asked whether anyone knew anything beyond what was obvious, namely that KSU had unilaterally canceled the vacation. “Why?” I wanted to know. “What are our rights? What are our obligations?” My last thought was that if, as was speculated, KSU was acting independently, then teachers, recruiters, administrators, Bell, and Obekan should all be allies. Others thought we should strike, sit-in, do a work slow down, sick out, fail to turn in attendance, have a group meeting on campus to determine a course of action. One guy took it upon himself to write a respectful petition explaining our grievances and, having asked us to read it, affixed our names to it before delivering it to the Dean. Only one guy said, “Count me out.” The more hot-blooded of the posters called him a scab and a coward. Threats were made. “I know who you are!” one said. One teacher included a closing to his email which hyphenated (in the way a drill sergeant would) the phrase, “En shala.” En shala means, “If Allah is willing.” It is used in the same way as one might say, “God willing, and the creeks don’t rise.”

There were also quite long exchanges about teacher’s rights under Saudi labor law and whether a Saudi company (Obekan) had the right to demand employee’s passports (Obekan did, and everyone who signed a contract with Bell complied.). Unfortunately, no one could say anything definitive about these issues.

The final email was again from Mr. Smith. This time he told how “gratified” he was by all that had been said (except for the few posts that didn’t rampage; he had his own list of the cowards).

When we returned to work on Saturday morning we were hustled into an impromptu mass meeting with the top Bell administrator, Dr. Abdullah. He told us that as a result of the content of the weekend’s emails (so much for secrecy) seven teachers had been suspended. He didn’t add that two had quit; we found that out later via the grapevine. He also said he had been working on a compromise with KSU since the cancellation had been announced.

A day or so later, Dr. Abdullah assembled us again to say that KSU had relented and would now allow those who had already purchased tickets to take the vacation without pay, and the rest of us would be expected to show up at school. He also added that our teachers’ email forum had almost wrecked his negotiations with KSU (Really?). Well, half a loaf anyway. Of course, those, like myself, who hadn’t spent money on airfare were a little miffed.

Then, Obekan decided that all Bell teachers could take the vacation and Obekan would foot the bill for three days of vacation, even though Obekan would not be recompensed by KSU, or they could come to work and get a week’s pay (which KSU would be covering). Hurray for Obekan! Sadly, as I said, I’m not contracted to Bell; my recruiter is another company whose acronym is ICEEL (International Company for English and E-Learning), and ICEEL wouldn’t pay anything for the week, unless we showed up at school ($750 for a week’s vacation in Riyahd? The garden spot?). Not only that, ICEEL wanted us to pay them what they would lose, in the event KSU wasn’t obligated to pay (meaning that the week off in Riyadh would now cost me $1500). Can I say, “CRAP!” So for a week, I got up, caught a cab, rode out to school, signed in, and chatted (about what a wonderful opportunity this is) or read, and then signed out. I got through four of Graham Greene’s novels.

Oh, and the suspended guys? All but two are now long gone. Mr. Hyphenate En Shala is still here, trying to find another job. He’ll have to leave if something doesn’t turn up this month. The other guy is the only one to survive; Mr. Respectful Petition is back at work.

But, hey! I am working.

Here is another posting about Bell Obeikan, "plagiarized" from Dave's ESL Cafe   And in case Dave is reading this, I do enjoy his forum. (Original link http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?p=827069)

It does sadden me when teachers make the effort to move to a new country and have the best of intentions to do a good job, only to have their employers completely disinterested in meeting them  halfway while expecting 100%. That said, there are good positions in Saudi Arabia and very good employers, but one must be careful and patient enough to look for them!

SPECIFIC PROBLEMS WITH BELL-OBEIKAN AT KSU

KSU Preparatory Year Deanship: I know that this 'prestigious project' has been written about many times, but I don't feel that people have really done justice to the place.

What follows is a list of points and a brief explanation of each problem (not ranked in any order of importance) :

1.Amending teachers' contracts mid-contract: teachers have 2 choices; sign or go back to your own country

2.Not enough teachers in post: a problem for the last 3 years resulting in a mess of contractors who mainly use non-native speaker teachers, covered classes, lack of continuity for both students and teachers

3.Delayed payments: some payments have been delayed up to 5 months, trying to get a reimbursement is like drawing blood

4.Facilities: e-podiums forever break down (poor maintenance), shortage of basic materials such as boardmarkers, wipers, copy paper, staplers etc Obeikan own a national chain of stationary shops !! There are 2 photocopiers between 170+ teachers! They frequently break down and can be out of service for months at a time

5.An inexperienced management team: there are only a couple of exceptions but for the most part it's their first real supervisory post, this has resulted in a lack of planning and poor decision making

Lack of approachability; forget the 'top' management they are rarely available, and supervisors have neither accurate information nor decision making powers

Lack of accountability; it is a challenge to find out who is responsible for what, between the 3 partners they have made a success of making this area a minefield that is impassable

There is also a case of 'overinflated ego syndrome' they rarely admit to a mistake and behave as though they were Lee Iacocca

6.Last minute decisions: this is par for the course and can even relate to exams and exam preparation

7.Promises Promises: never materialize

8.Training: used to keep teachers on campus (instead of a break), arranged last minute and of very little value

9.Concern for teachers: teachers are voiceless, Bell look out for themselves and the same goes for Obeikan and KSU. [Very typical when you have middle-men companies hired for cosmetic reasons - kathiri] The teachers are left to follow what they are told, they have little understanding of the laws even when they are in their favor.

Translating, dealing with authorities etc you are basically on your own
Trips, meals, activities are very rarely arranged leaving teachers to fend for themselves

10. Non Academic Administration; official paperwork takes time in this country but why this long ? Whatever the request Obeikan have their own schedule which inevitably means having to WAIT WAIT WAIT !

11. Instability; there is a very low level of morale teachers feel insecure about their positions and are not optimistic about the future of the project, especially the 3 way partnership

12. Double Standards, there are a number of 'teachers pets' among the staff, when it comes these people there is flexibilty with the rules and regs.

Very typical structure here, with the cosmetically suitable "face" in it for the money more than anything ]

So true.  KAUST is even doing this and it's not confined to academia (eg. King Khaled Eye Specialist Hospital and their Johns Hopkins 'collaboration').

Alliecat wrote:

Very typical structure here, with the cosmetically suitable "face" in it for the money more than anything ]

So true.  KAUST is even doing this and it's not confined to academia (eg. King Khaled Eye Specialist Hospital and their Johns Hopkins 'collaboration').

Yes, it's a terrible idea and you don't which party better deserves your exasperation! To the one you want to say: why bother! and to the other: I thought you knew better!

All of this info about Bell Obeikan's mismanagement is moot, however, since they were given the boot several years ago.  I have British colleagues who bemoan the fact that an otherwise revered British educatioal group, Bell, was dragged through the mud by their involvement in this.

I blamed Bell, however, because they threw in a RFP for a very lucrative contract without having anything in place.
When they got it, they were scrambling and had no idea what they were in for, dealing with Obeikan, but still they continued (clearly selling out for the big bucks).  Just my opinion

kathiri wrote:

Alliecat wrote:

Very typical structure here, with the cosmetically suitable "face" in it for the money more than anything ]

So true.  KAUST is even doing this and it's not confined to academia (eg. King Khaled Eye Specialist Hospital and their Johns Hopkins 'collaboration').

Yes, it's a terrible idea and you don't which party better deserves your exasperation! To the one you want to say: why bother! and to the other: I thought you knew better!

Well we know why the one is bothering, but to the other, I can only feel incredible disappointment.  Of course, if you read the American/British affiliate's websites, it seems they are doing remarkable things over here in the Middle East.  If you're here, however, you know what a sham it all is (a sell-out and they're pretty much assured nobody at home will ever find out).

Alliecat wrote:

All of this info about Bell Obeikan's mismanagement is moot, however, since they were given the boot several years ago.  I have British colleagues who bemoan the fact that an otherwise revered British educatioal group, Bell, was dragged through the mud by their involvement in this.

I blamed Bell, however, because they threw in a RFP for a very lucrative contract without having anything in place.
When they got it, they were scrambling and had no idea what they were in for, dealing with Obeikan, but still they continued (clearly selling out for the big bucks).  Just my opinion

Have they? I wonder who's running it now and how it's going. I've not heard good things about contracting companies working for public universities here.

Whatever it is, I hope they got more copiers! This was a huge problem where I worked, to the extent that I would get my major copying done at a copy center near my house and pocket the cost myself. It just wasn't worth the hassle or wait time to order copies for big jobs.

smurfette wrote:

And here's that link again:  Job openings at PNU.

Your patience amazes me!

kathiri wrote:

smurfette wrote:

And here's that link again:  Job openings at PNU.

Your patience amazes me!

Patient?  Not really. I punched a hole in my wall right before posting that link for the gazillionth time.

kathiri wrote:

Alliecat wrote:

All of this info about Bell Obeikan's mismanagement is moot, however, since they were given the boot several years ago.  I have British colleagues who bemoan the fact that an otherwise revered British educatioal group, Bell, was dragged through the mud by their involvement in this.

I blamed Bell, however, because they threw in a RFP for a very lucrative contract without having anything in place.
When they got it, they were scrambling and had no idea what they were in for, dealing with Obeikan, but still they continued (clearly selling out for the big bucks).  Just my opinion

Have they? I wonder who's running it now and how it's going. I've not heard good things about contracting companies working for public universities here.

Whatever it is, I hope they got more copiers! This was a huge problem where I worked, to the extent that I would get my major copying done at a copy center near my house and pocket the cost myself. It just wasn't worth the hassle or wait time to order copies for big jobs.

Found this today on Bayt.com.  Wonder if they're advertising again, as Bayt seems pretty with-it as far as employment sites go. One never knows.  Hopefully anyone who's read this thread won't bother to apply.

http://www.bayt.com/en/job/king-saud-un … s-1375129/

Job Description

Bell Educational Trust is working in partnership with Obeikan Research and Development, managing the world’s largest ELT project at King Saud University.

Supervisor Roles - Female Campus
University Foundation Programme - King Saud University, Riyadh

Salary 14,000 to 16,000 SAR per month (plus benefits)

We are currently recruiting for the following positions on the female campus:

Assessment Supervisor
Curriculum Supervisor
E-Learning Supervisor
Skills

Essential skills, qualifications and experience:
•First Degree
•CELTA or equivalent
•Experience in line management
•Experience in the Middle East
•Track record in reporting/liaison with other branches within an
organisation
•Proven ability to manage multi-faceted operation, with tight deadlines
•Proven ability to work with high level of accuracy
•Proven ability to build a sense of team, develop the team, and delegate responsibility
•Diplomacy, tact and influencing skills

Desirable skills, qualifications and experience:

•Masters Degree, especially in TESOL/Applied Linguistics/similar
•Post-graduate EFL qualification at Diploma level (eg DELTA)
•Experience in teaching EFL or managing an EFL programme in a
university
•Experience in Saudi Arabia
•Knowledge of IELTS and other Cambridge ESOL exams
•Arabic language ability

Hmm... That's an obsolete posting from 2009.  If you do 3 clean searches on bayt.com for Bell Trust, Obeikan and ing Saud, those positions don't come up.

Thanks for clearing that up.  I was curious as to why it was listed.

I am a post graduate in pharmacy.I had been working as a pharmacist in India and Abroad (OMAN)).Presently am working as an Asst professor at St Josephs College of Pharmacy Cherthala Kerala.

Hi  Nisha P Kurian,

Please note that this topic is from 2010.

Don't hesitate to post your question, or ask for advice on the Riyadh forum, this might help.

Thank you,

David.

hi , i am fizza kanwal .i did my M.Phil in MBA Finance in march 2013.now a days i am teaching in Allama iqbal college bahawalpur , pakistan

Hello, 
my Name is Mahmood Khan i did school from English Medium and intermediate too, after that i did my graduation in Arabic Language, and Masters from Persian Language , beside this i have don a masters diploma in Mass Communication Technique in Urdu ( Journalism,
and i have a diploma in Conservation technology and Manuscript from National museum, India. and did post graduate diploma in Computer application and knows the languages, Hindi, English, Urdu, Persian and Arabic.

  would like to give services in your esteemed University,
i have a experience in translation services and interpretation too.


with best regards.

                            Mahmood Khan
                                           
email Id : mah_khan77@yaoo.com
mobile  : 9885318613

@MKhan  PNU is a university for women.  To my knowledge, male instructors are not hired.

How many of you knew about this news: arabnews.com/news/459044 ?

TheLegendLeads wrote:

How many of you knew about this news: http://www.arabnews.com/news/459044 ?

May she rest in peace.

Ameen

But that was too quick. She was not THAT Princess Noura. THAT was daughter of AbdurRehman and she had passed away in 1952.

hi can anybody help me or even give me the exact email add. where to submit my C.V. thanks a lot

abigail147 wrote:

hi can anybody help me or even give me the exact email add. where to submit my C.V. thanks a lot

If it's for teaching English, you'll find job ads (for female teachers) from recruiters on the international job board on Dave's ESL Cafe.  For other PNU positions, try this link (not available in English): pnu.edu.sa/ar/Pages/NewsAndActivities/Vacancies.aspx

aslamo alaikum . i am aged 27 years and posess m.phil degree in pharmacology. now seeking a job in some pharmacy institute so that i can share the knowledge.

aslamo alaikum . i am aged 24 years and posess BSCS(Hon's) in computer science. now seeking a job in some computer department so that i can share the knowledge.