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osman423

I have a new question and important one ....

I have ECR( EMIGRATION CHECK REQUIRED )  on my passport which is not allowing me to travel on Job Visa , today I cancelled my ticket because of this and have visited the passport office here in India and they informed ECR can be cancelled with proving some documents ( Educational ) which I have ready so I am eligible for ECNR( EMIGRATION CHECK NOT REQUIRED )  ,

However they informed me that the passport office will give me a new passport and cancel my exiting one ... But my work visa is linked with my exiting passport number , I have booked the appointment with the passport office for monday which mean on monday once I submit my documents and apply they will give me a new passport ...

I want to know whether this will be a problem having a new passport or I can still travel with both the passport ???

I am in a big trouble as I have to bear my ticket expense and also embarrassment which I don't want to face it again in my whole life ...

Please guide me with the best reasonable answers with reference available !

I am available at osman.imran@gmail.com or call me at +919701206022 ( India ) ....

Thank you so much !!

Farhaz

I assume you do not have a Bahrain residence permit yet, since you are only now moving to Bahrain.

If this is the case, you will not be able to travel to Bahrain with a passport other than the one mentioned in your business/visit visa. If you have to get a new passport, then your potential employer will have to get you a new business/visit visa with your new passport details. Only then will you be able to travel to Bahrain.

Remember - everything happens with a reason and for the good. So take it as it comes. Best wishes.

osman423

New Question for you !!

After the hassle of ECR I got a new passport which I will be travelling along with my old passport to Bahrain on job visa. My medical test is on my old passport which is valid till 19th dec 2014.

My question is do I have to once again go through the medical test here on my new passport or not ? As my new visa will be linked with my new passport

Thanks
Osman

Farhaz

Dear Osman

Need a clarification - do you have a visa to enter Bahrain with your new passport number on it? If yes, then you should be fine. Otherwise, you may have difficulties passing immigrations at the airport.

osman423

Now I have a new visa with new passport number printed but my question is whether my old medical will be valid or not.

Please let me know soon

Farhaz

I understood your question, the first time. I wanted clarification before I answered your question.

Medical is not really an issue. Important thing is to have a visa with new passport number. That will allow you to enter Bahrain.

I am not sure about this, but medical on the old passport may not be valid - but its not an issue. You can get it sorted out once you come here.

Look forward to welcoming you here.

osman423

Thank you so much for your support and wishes !!!

Regards ,

Osman  :)

ConradCA1121

The immegration guy from the airport stop me from exiting Bahrain. He said that i have to fix my passport first. I carry my new and old passport with me but he said that i have to go immegration to transfer my visa from my old passport to the new one. Why is that? When i took my passport from my embassy, they told me that the immegration from the airport will do the transfer of my visa.. If the immegration from the airport refuse to do it..then, who will do???

logicalindian

Dear ConradCA1121,

once you receive your new passport, old one is no longer valid, since your in Bahrain you need to have the visa stamp on the new passport, this is by law, you will have to talk to your HR and they will send it to the concerned to get a new stamp on the new passport. As far as i know the only exception is like if you have a valid multi entry visa from another country then you carry both your old & new passport and they will allow you to enter and in the new passport they will stamp (and mention visa in old passport) .

T&R

allah hu akbar

my name is imran sayed from mira road and I am facing a problem due to emigrations.
I have my old passport valid till 2020 and i have my visa of bahrain E visa.
last month I visited airport for departure there I came to know I need ecr so I cancelled my tickets and the next day I visited the emigration office in santacruz.
now I applied for fresh passport and I got it a few dayz back and I informed my company that I had got my passport.
now the issue is this that on my E visa the passport number is of old passport and my old passport is cancelled but was valid till 2020.
so, can I travel to Bahrain by taking both the passports kindly suggest me what I can do further.

Farhaz

Imran Sayed - the moment you get a new passport the older passport is no longer valid. You will need a new visa with the new passport number on it to travel to Bahrain.

allah hu akbar

but as I inquired the agents and uae consulate also telling that if the old passport number is on the new passport then u can go on that visa.

Farhaz

Travelling that way is a risk.

Visas clearly state that passport number and name on the visa have to match with the current passport.

You could potentially be held back at immigrations at the airport and if they are not helpful you will be put on a flight back to your city.

And that is if you are allowed to board the plane in the first place.

logicalindian

I agree with Farhaz on that point, it is risky, ask your potential employer (i am assuming) who had applied for the e-visa earlier to apply for a fresh one with the new passport number.

good luck

T&R

allah hu akbar

so in this situation what should I do.
can I tell them to send me a visit visa so that I can travel bahrain and change the visit visa to work visa.

logicalindian

Yes you could do that as well, only thing to remember is new Passport number in work visa or visit visa.

good luck

T&R

Farhaz

Yes. Request your counterparts here in Bahrain to apply for a fresh visa. That's the best and safest way.

All the best.

sakar97

If I go myself to lmra, will they put visa stamp in my new passport coz my old passport is cancelled and there is visa untill 2016
I want to go my country
What should I do
Plz rply fast

Thunderbolt26

Hello!
I have a residence permit for Bahrain on my old passport which is valid till 30th Jan 2016. But since I recently got my ECR cancelled I got a new passport and the old one is now cancelled. Can I travel to Bahrain now by carrying both the passports? Or should the visa be transferred to the new passport.
Please reply soon! Very urgent. Thank you :)

logicalindian

Thunderbolt26,

yes you can travel to Bahrain with both your passports and then once your here you can get the visa transferred to the new passport.

T&R

Jolsky

I have the same situation with him. I have new passport last month and let my visa get stamped by my hr to my new passport last month. However I had an emergency that I have to go home and when I asked my hr about my passport they said it wasnt stamped yet because the person authorized to process it is on vacation. Can I go to immigration myself and let my new passport get stamped. pls help. thank you!

logicalindian

Hi,

as far as i know only authorized people can do this, not everyone can go on their own and do it.

someone can correct me if i am wrong.

T&R

Jolsky

Thank you for your answer.

Farhaz

Usually it has to be done through authorized agents only.
But, in this case, I believe you can go to the LMRA and try to do this yourself, since you have an emergency. I know someone who was in a similar situation - went to the LMRA and got the new visa stamped.

All the best.

Jolsky

Thank you for your help Farhaz, I will try to go yo LMRA tomorrow.

Chintan joshi

Hi,
I have a valid residence permit and I am in india now... my passport is valid less then 6 month... can I travel back to bahrain... or you suggest me to renew my passport and then travel... but my RP will be in old passport with I be allowed to come back to bahrain..??

logicalindian

Hi,

If you already have a valid residence permit (green sticker on the passport) the condition of 6months validity on the passport does not apply it applied for visit visa only. You can come to Bahrain and then you can renew your passport here and once you get your new passport you can transfer the visa to your new passport

T&R

m.yasirusuf

I need to know that I just renewed my passport and got on outgoing Thursday. Now I have to place visa stamp on it as I already have on my old one. I will be travelling soon, otherwise I believe I may face issue.

Kindly guide me the fastest process to go through it and do it, I believe its not a technical thing.

XTang

Don't understand what you mean by technical thing or fastest process.

To transfer your visa to the new passport, your sponsor needs to take it to LMRA and get it done.  With the right PRO, it takes 5 minutes.

Ai421

I am new to Bahrain . I got a job in Bahrain and my company applied for a work permit and book the flight tickets as well. And in airport I come to know  my passport consists of ECR( EMIGRATION CHECK REQUIRED )  on my passport which is not allowing me to travel on Job Visa . I cancelled my ticket because of this and have visited the passport office here in India and they informed ECR can be cancelled with proving some documents ( Educational ) which I have ready so I am eligible for ECNR( EMIGRATION CHECK NOT REQUIRED )  ,

However they informed me that the passport office will give me a new passport and cancel my exiting one ... But my work visa is linked with my exiting passport number

I want to know whether this will be a problem having a new passport or I can still travel with both the passport ???

Right now I have two passport we me...
I am in a big trouble.please advise ...

XTang

I am not sure about India but for countries where the passport is cancelled i.e. either marked in a visible way; travel on that passport is not possible.  For some countries, like Pakistan, travel is still possible as they don't stamp cancelled on the passport or deface it anyway; they just put a notation saying new passport issued in lieu of this one, thus leaving the old passport valid.  And I know people who have travelled in this situation without issue.

Now, if you had the residence visa stamped in your passport, it would not matter as you could carry both (whether or not passport was cancelled) and then once here, transfer it easily.  You are before that stage i.e. have an electronic visa linked to a passport number.

So if the passport is cancelled now and is easily seen as such, then, you need to ask your employer to switch the work visa to the new passport.

Ai421

Thank you dear.
I would like to know below information as well
1.How much time it will take to switch passport no from old to new in work permit by LMRA from employer. So that I request my company to hold the tickets.
2.One of my friend inform that in Bahrain airport the immigrants will automatically stamp the Visa in new passport but it will take time bit risky.

Please advise

XTang

1) It depends on your company. One hour to a few days
2) No. He is confusing between residence stamp and visa.  Your visa is linked to a passport which is not valid....immigration at airport can't do anything in this area

gunner757

Ai421 wrote:

Thank you dear.
I would like to know below information as well
1.How much time it will take to switch passport no from old to new in work permit by LMRA from employer. So that I request my company to hold the tickets.
2.One of my friend inform that in Bahrain airport the immigrants will automatically stamp the Visa in new passport but it will take time bit risky.

Please advise


I guess what your friend said was when you have a Bahrain RP sticker in your old passport and you're entering Bahrain on new passport .

That doesn't apply to you , better talk to your employer .

Ai421

Thanks for your response

m.yasirusuf

Hi all,

Kindly guide me. I have got a renewed passport and want to travel to Pakistan. But couldn't get RP sticket on the renewed passport due to COVID19 (difficult to take appointments). My RP is valid till 2021 sep and my old passport is stamped cancelled by embassy. Can I travel and then return back?

Kindly guide.

XTang

Carry both passports, it is not an issue even if you can't convince immigration at airport to put on an RP on new passport.

SamBahrain

Just to share my experience. My and my wife's passport expiry dates for Pakistani passports are in September and October 2020 respectively. Due to Covid-19 situation, few months ago I applied for new passports online through the new system for overseas Pakistanis. The new passports got delivered to my address in Bahrain in 35 days. Then I submitted the new and old passports to my company to transfer the RP sticker.

Yesterday my admin guy said that the old passport is still valid in the system and I have to go to Pakistani embassy to get it cancelled. I picked up the passports, went to embassy and requested them to cancel my old passport. They asked if I have any other valid visa in my old passport. I told them about my KSA visa with one year validity. They said that in such case they will not cancel the visa. Instead they put a stamp in the old passport saying something like "New passport issued with number XXXXXXXXX in lieu of this passport bearing valid visas." Took around 15 minutes at the embassy.

I submitted the old and new passports to my company today. Hopefully the RP will be transferred now, based on this stamp by the embassy.

Anyone else experienced the same?

XTang

The problem is only with Pakistan passports as they don't cancel it when there are valid visas on the passport.   But usually, immigration doesn't create any problems if the passports are expiring within the same year.

SamBahrain

Just a quick update on the earlier post. I got the visa sticket transferred to my new passport. So the stamp that embassy put on my old passport worked.

SamBahrain wrote:

Just to share my experience. My and my wife's passport expiry dates for Pakistani passports are in September and October 2020 respectively. Due to Covid-19 situation, few months ago I applied for new passports online through the new system for overseas Pakistanis. The new passports got delivered to my address in Bahrain in 35 days. Then I submitted the new and old passports to my company to transfer the RP sticker.

Yesterday my admin guy said that the old passport is still valid in the system and I have to go to Pakistani embassy to get it cancelled. I picked up the passports, went to embassy and requested them to cancel my old passport. They asked if I have any other valid visa in my old passport. I told them about my KSA visa with one year validity. They said that in such case they will not cancel the visa. Instead they put a stamp in the old passport saying something like "New passport issued with number XXXXXXXXX in lieu of this passport bearing valid visas." Took around 15 minutes at the embassy.

I submitted the old and new passports to my company today. Hopefully the RP will be transferred now, based on this stamp by the embassy.

Anyone else experienced the same?

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