How much will it cost to build a house?

coach53 wrote:

Peter Clark wrote:

Building a house on ordinary land that is not residential has limits in size.....something like 20% Maximum.

No problem with that when it's a big land (as an orchard, farm or forestry        as I want to built at. 

But interesting info    concerning others. I had some thought of giving away small lots as bohnus to other investors (if any other ever will be invited to invest.)

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I had heard the same idea in Chile when I was visiting there in 2019. A group of foreigners to Chile got together and purchased/agreed with the government to preserve the land as forest. In return the investors can build their houses live in the land. There are restrictions how and how much land they can develop for their dwellings. The location is far from the big cities, yaddi-yaddi-yadda.
This is a good idea, but investors has to have equal voice.

Jackson4 wrote:

coach53 wrote:

Peter Clark wrote:

Building a house on ordinary land that is not residential has limits in size.....something like 20% Maximum.

No problem with that when it's a big land (as an orchard, farm or forestry        as I want to built at. 

But interesting info    concerning others. I had some thought of giving away small lots as bohnus to other investors (if any other ever will be invited to invest.)

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I had heard the same idea in Chile when I was visiting there in 2019. A group of foreigners to Chile got together and purchased/agreed with the government to preserve the land as forest. In return the investors can build their houses live in the land. There are restrictions how and how much land they can develop for their dwellings. The location is far from the big cities, yaddi-yaddi-yadda.
This is a good idea, but investors has to have equal voice.

In Phils such are allowed allready, but need to fullfil some demands:
Alternative 1. 
Condomium type organisation. 
Minimum 60 % Filipino owned.  One vote per home.

Alternative 2: 
"My" idea     Corporation/Company.  Minimum 60 % Filipino owned of the business which own the land.  Much more flexible how things can be done, but many more demands to fullfil and more complicated. One vote per share, so foreigners can have 40 % of the votes even if it's only one foreigner having all 40%.  Max 40 % of the board positions too for foreigners.

There can be some max size laws concerning land depending of land type and what want to use it for. The smallest max I know of is 5 hectares, an other max is 20, but can be biger.

coach53 wrote:

I had heard the same idea in Chile when I was visiting there in 2019. A group of foreigners to Chile got together and purchased/agreed with the government to preserve the land as forest. In return the investors can build their houses live in the land. There are restrictions how and how much land they can develop for their dwellings. The location is far from the big cities, yaddi-yaddi-yadda.
This is a good idea, but investors has to have equal voice.
In Phils such are allowed allready, but need to fullfil some demands:
Alternative 1. 
Condomium type organisation. 
Minimum 60 % Filipino owned.  One vote per home.

Alternative 2: 
"My" idea     Corporation/Company.  Minimum 60 % Filipino owned of the business which own the land.  Much more flexible how things can be done, but many more demands to fullfil and more complicated. One vote per share, so foreigners can have 40 % of the votes even if it's only one foreigner having all 40%.  Max 40 % of the board positions too for foreigners.

There can be some max size laws concerning land depending of land type and what want to use it for. The smallest max I know of is 5 hectares, an other max is 20, but can be biger.

Your post reminds me of several thoughts that I've had. Requiring 60% Philippine ownership has stunted foreign investment in the Philippines.  Wanting a foreign investment group to invest millions or billions of dollars and not have control ?  Also there would be a serious limitation of Philippine investors that could come up with 40%.

In the states I had a friend that owned a condo, like you said one condo one vote, one person owned 16 condos, he controlled the board of the condo association.

if you have any skills with concrete or building at all you can hire a crew and build it yourself and save a bundle as well as a bundle of corruption,material,cost etc.
you would get a stronger structure and know what its made of.
if you get a rural lot some where you dont need permits or any of the things you need in a city or developed area. i would recommend building a gated wall around your lot first to have materials delivered to a safe location so your stuff does not walk away.
if you dont know anything about building and hire a 'company' or 'builder' or "engineer" you will spend a lot more.
the size of your house has a lot to do with what it costs and you have not mentioned that. as a matter of fact building a house here has so many variables in cost and quality nobody can answer your question really. anywhere from $20,000 to $200,000.

bigpearl wrote:

Soonretired wrote:

jesus.., dont trust anyone here.least of all what people tell you. if you plan to build here, your question is open ended. are you rich?
my house cost me 18,000 US.
its 2 story 2 bedroom and extremely strong.
you will NEVER get this price or quality by hiring some 'crew".

dont trust anyone EVER to build anything here. .

if you are serious , you need to be there %100 of the time  to babysit every tiny detail.or end up spending 3 times what is needed and getting less than half what you expected.

no joke, even the "educated" builders or designers are not worth the cost and corruption free to even come close to what you would want or expect dollar for dollar. you are  a scam waiting o happen.
dont make a move to spend a f^^kin penny.

i am being honest here.

That's it mate get it out and I agree, 120% the owner needs to be there every day. I would question $18K US for a 2 story 2 bed house though, small house? At 900,000 pesos I can't get a fence according to builders but I will achieve for much less. Septic, services, municipal fees etc. are included in your costings?

BTW, hope things have sorted out with the squatters.

Cheers, Steve.

yes its small 16foot by 32foot downstairs and 17foot by 33 foot upstairs.
so about 1024sq.ft or 95 sq.meters
living room, bathroom and kitchen downstairs plus a small tool room/pantry.
2 bedrooms upstairs opening onto a large terrace .small landing/hallway.
its extremely strong,beautiful exposed arch beams downstairs,not being an engineer i kind of over did things in the strength dept. to cover my butt.
that price did not include the tile paint and finishing etc. just the structure. we have been slowly doing finish stuff as we live here.
we made our own raised bathtub and kitchen counter out of tiled concrete that came out nice. me and my wife have fun working together on things and enjoy our creative accomplishments.

Last I heard in 2019, the cost to build a house ranges from 15k-25k pesos per sq.m.
Soonretired's house (without finish) is at 95 sq.m. @ USD18k, that is roughly PHP 9.5k/sq.m.
It also depends on material cost when he built the house.
If the labor cost was low and he kept an eye on the work daily, it may be possible. The low cost can be attributed to his project management, which may not be included in the usd18k cost.
The house finish is the expensive part too.

Jackson4 wrote:

Last I heard in 2019, the cost to build a house ranges from 15k-25k pesos per sq.m.
Soonretired's house (without finish) is at 95 sq.m. @ USD18k, that is roughly PHP 9.5k/sq.m.
It also depends on material cost when he built the house.
If the labor cost was low and he kept an eye on the work daily, it may be possible. The low cost can be attributed to his project management,  which may not be included in the usd18k cost.
The house finish is the expensive part too.

you are correct,and the project management cost me lost wages as i suspended my employment to come here and manage/take care of things myself- over 6 months of project management cost me over 1,5 million pesos in lost wages.. had i stayed working in the US ,. and had someone I trust here to oversee...
more than twice the cost of my house.

.thats why i offered to do the same for others, for basically nothing , to save them the stress and cost of building on the other side of the world , while they continue to make their US wages and save for their retirement . i offered to babysit their project for only 100$ per week plus food and a place to stay so they didnt have to go thru what i did., i'm an honest guy. i dont talk bullshit. i'm not a scammer or greedy. you all have gotten to know me as you read of my experiences here.
i am just bored,retired, and see a lifes worth of experience going to waste as i sit here waiting out covid and my eventual death from old age. what do i have better to do with my life? REALLY? than help my fellow expats start their new life and avoid the pitfalls that we all faced?

anyway, thank you all for being so understanding and helpful to me as i went thru episodes of my own here ( :

if anyone needs the help i offer, just let me know.

A good idea and with experience your offer is good.  Maybe a happy picture might assure a potential customer, suggest a cheap place to stay as well  before things get started?

I do find that there are some expats who do not like to be advised, why I do not know because the Philippines is fraught with potential problems.

Peter Clark wrote:

I do find that there are some expats who do not like to be advised, why I do not know because the Philippines is fraught with potential problems.

Perhaps it's contagious 

A friend of mine from back in Elementary school moved to Phils around 35 years ago. He say if telling a Filipino how something can be done good, then the normal is they do it some other - stupid - way or say "Yes" when asking if they have understood, but they haven't.
I  believe it has to do with "lose face" culture. 
There is even a LAW not allowing a business to be dominated by foreigner's knowledge!  (Well., "The Anti-Dummy law" is some fuzzy about that, but that's how a Filipino lawyer interpreted it in an article about that law.)
NOT general, there are many exceptions, but it seem logic thinking capacity isn't high in average. As e g the plummer, who put the pipe diagonal in knee height over the room... Perhaps he was "smart" and did it to save a bit pipe   

((Luckily I have found a Filipino citizen, but not any of tthe biger ethnic Filipino groups, who LIKE to ask and learn things and by that he did knew much allready about the business type we are starting together, so I can add an in Phils often missing "key" knowledge in this business type, still following that law       And some "general" things about e g business registration I know, but to not risk adding to much knowledge myself,  I tell him to ask different Filipinos, who I know know  some different parts    then I fill in the still missing parts..))

Some westerner find me being a Besserwisser, but that's often people, who don't think any good but claim they do, so I need to correct them often      
but actualy I ask a lot and research much, that's why I know so much   

I had a home build here. Be sure you do your home work if you use a contractor. Check his last 5 jobs ensure they are t more than 2 years ago. Look in detail at work. I can say much more having had this experience. But for time sake I will keep it short

Great advice

Wayne 07 wrote:

I had a home build here. Be sure you do your home work if you use a contractor. Check his last 5 jobs ensure they are t more than 2 years ago. Look in detail at work. I can say much more having had this experience. But for time sake I will keep it short

Thats valid for any country on this world.
Past work ?
How long on business?
Building patalogy ?

I would say the range is between 1,000,000 to 5,000,000.  Not very helpful right?

The biggest variable you will face is location...a 150 SQM lot in a desirable gated neighborhood in an urban area can already cost upwards of 1.5M.   From there it all depends on materials used and if you use an architect/contractor or outsource directly yourself. 

I had done a lot of leg work on building myself in Lapu-Lapu and had already eyed a lot in a particular neighborhood I liked.  Then a sudden rush sale of a house popped up that was too good a deal to not take. 

I would suggest do your homework and first find the right location...freestanding or gated neighborhood.  Then shop around and get quotes from contractors....at the same time as the cost of your project gets more concrete you should still look at resales as there is a lot of inventory being dumped.

You can still buy beautiful lots in the provincial areas very inexpensively, but you have to think about water, and title issues can be complex. Many times individuals buy lots, planning to resell them, and don't change the title, so it is still in the previous owners name and it can be a nightmare to straighten out. Sometimes it take YEARS.

Yes, knew somebody who discovered 38 encumbrances on property. 38!!!

pnwcyclist wrote:

You can still buy beautiful lots in the provincial areas very inexpensively, but you have to think about water, and title issues can be complex. Many times individuals buy lots, planning to resell them, and don't change the title, so it is still in the previous owners name and it can be a nightmare to straighten out. Sometimes it take YEARS.

Rural isn't waer any problem normaly (except close to ocean bycean water can get in). J Just make a well   correct built making the water drinkable.  If at normal height compared to the sorounding, the ground water is close and  rather often there are springs whiich can be keptt clean iif conncreete iit and let the surplus out.

Yes. Ownership can be a mess.

If not said - If not "Residenttal" or"Comeerial" classified,, NO BUILDING PERMIT is needed normaly.

I would love to watch the videos if you are willing to share.  Thanks from Canada

Hi looking myself build house davao City. Like to see Facebook video as well if ok. To get ideal what to expect.

its very easy
the meddle class building is 25k for sqm , its including all and all

@sirrobcentral Hello!  My Wife, who is a Filipina Citizen, and I,  an American,  are contemplating moving to the Davao City general area in late Summer 2024 or 2025.  We will be looking for a lot to build our cottage on when we visit this December.   We will be  looking in the Calinan area to be closer to her family.  Any suggestions?  We'd like to buy a lot around 1 acre (4000sqm) in a safe area.  Thanks!

@sirrobcentral Hello!  My Wife, who is a Filipina Citizen, and I,  an American,  are contemplating moving to the Davao City general area in late Summer 2024 or 2025.  We will be looking for a lot to build our cottage on when we visit this December.   We will be  looking in the Calinan area to be closer to her family.  Any suggestions?  We'd like to buy a lot around 1 acre (4000sqm) in a safe area.  Thanks!

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