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Marilyn Tassy wrote:

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More of an American brand, Jonnie Walker.

I did of course immediately think of that one.

But Johnnie Walker is actually Scottish as all good whisky is -click here as there's lots of history on it.

Personally I liked Laphroaig but now I don't drink any more. Had to give up the booze for health reasons. It's lowered my blood pressure considerably not drinking!  If I had to give up tea, that would be just too much.

While I'm being a pedant (but not by choice), I've always remembered the importance of getting the spelling right - it's  Scottish WHISKY, not WHISKEY....no "E" in it.  But then it's Irish whiskEy  which has an E in it like Bushmills Whiskey. I was given a rollicking for getting the spelling wrong once.  Never forgotten.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

fluffy2560 wrote:

Someone might find this useful as sent to me by my American colleague who clearly needs me to get with the programme:

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YMMV!

Wow, this is cold.
It seems your "friend" is more west coast then east coast.

That's pretty cool you could tell that.

Yes, he's from San Diego.  I wouldn't have known that by just looking at it.

He wasn't the original author but if I knew who that was I'll tell them I'd stay in touch.

fluffy2560 wrote:

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

fluffy2560 wrote:

Someone might find this useful as sent to me by my American colleague who clearly needs me to get with the programme:

[img align=C]https://i.redd.it/e88vij5f9qe41.jpg[/url]

YMMV!

Wow, this is cold.
It seems your "friend" is more west coast then east coast.

That's pretty cool you could tell that.

Yes, he's from San Diego.  I wouldn't have known that by just looking at it.

He wasn't the original author but if I knew who that was I'll tell them I'd stay in touch.

Ha,ha, or invite him for a coffee...
Cali. is really this way, LA area for sure.
People though are so busy trying to make money that it is hard to be real or make real friends there.
All my friends are either from school or the gym, just about everyone I know is a yoga instructor or teaches classes.
Even my friend in Hawaii teaches yoga 4 times a week.
You usually hang with people who share a common interest with you.

fluffy2560 wrote:

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

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More of an American brand, Jonnie Walker.

I did of course immediately think of that one.

But Johnnie Walker is actually Scottish as all good whisky is -click here as there's lots of history on it.

Personally I liked Laphroaig but now I don't drink any more. Had to give up the booze for health reasons. It's lowered my blood pressure considerably not drinking!  If I had to give up tea, that would be just too much.

While I'm being a pedant (but not by choice), I've always remembered the importance of getting the spelling right - it's  Scottish WHISKY, not WHISKEY....no "E" in it.  But then it's Irish whiskEy  which has an E in it like Bushmills Whiskey. I was given a rollicking for getting the spelling wrong once.  Never forgotten.

Didn't know it was from Scotland. I actually do not like the taste of it at all. More of a Jack Daniel's person. Haven't really drank hard spirits in years though.

Yesterday as we approached our building after running some errands we saw a young women laying in the middle of the intersection by the building.
Thankfully a middle aged women had found her, covered with items to keep the chilly air off of her, put something under her head and called the ambulance before we arrived on the sence.
The young lady seemed to be sleeping, looked healthy from what we could see, not overweight or looking drunk.
She just passed out while crossing the street.
I asked if she was breathing, thought oh no not again, not another CPR  disastor . ( Gave CPR to a dead man before, yikes)
Ambulance arrived within a few moments and we left, hate to stand around looking at someone in a bad situation if we are not needed.
Just so odd to cme across a young person like that, hope all was well with her.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

Yesterday as we approached our building after running some errands we saw a young women laying in the middle of the intersection by the building.
Thankfully a middle aged women had found her, covered with items to keep the chilly air off of her, put something under her head and called the ambulance before we arrived on the sence.
The young lady seemed to be sleeping, looked healthy from what we could see, not overweight or looking drunk.
She just passed out while crossing the street.
I asked if she was breathing, thought oh no not again, not another CPR  disastor . ( Gave CPR to a dead man before, yikes)
Ambulance arrived within a few moments and we left, hate to stand around looking at someone in a bad situation if we are not needed.
Just so odd to cme across a young person like that, hope all was well with her.

Sounds like she fainted.  Could be anything like diabetes.  Good job someone assisted.  Might have been better to pick her up and get her out of the traffic. If she was mobile before, she probably doesn't have a head or back injury so relatively low risk.

I've fainted  or been unconscious a couple of times in the past.  Once you're going, you're going and nothing is going to stop you.   

Once I was ill and feeling really terrible, I got out of a car after a ride, told my fellow travellers I wasn't feeling quite right and the next thing I knew I was laying on the ground.  I actually had some form of food poisoning.   

Another time I didn't faint but I knocked myself out.  I was balancing on a chair back legs (I was about 19) and fell backwards and hit my head on a small but solid table.  I was completely out of it, knocked senseless. I think I lost consciousness and my head sure hurt thereafter.   My GF of the time just laughed and seemed to think it was funny.  Wasn't so funny for me!

I've almost stopped riding my bike in the forests on my own during the week or more remotely as I think sometimes no-one goes on those paths for days.  If you go at the weekends then many more people are about.  If you fall off or get injured, definitely likely to be found within a few hours. Some of those tracks are quite lonely. Might not be traversed for more than a week.   

But there's one thing which I've started doing - even though I don't like Google - is to switch on my smartphone location sharing on Google maps.  Then Mrs Fluffy can see where I am at all times while I'm out in the bush.

I have been knocked out cold a few times and fainted a few other times.
9 years old went head first into an oak tree on my bike.
That's what I get for getting rowdy with no one around, went flyinbg down a hill and had to take a sharp right turn, went wide and hit the tree.
saw the little stars going round and round, the front of my bike was smashed as well.
Guess I have a hard head... Didn't tell anyone about it.
Age 15 was thrown off the back of my friends horse, out cold. Was in and out of it for several hours, mom on the phone with the doctor, he told her to wake me up every hour and if I didn't wake up then drive me to the hospital and he would drill a hole in my head to let the pressure out! WTF?? Now if a child bumps themselves the get a CAT scan!
Fainted in the DMV in Ca.
I was alone and about 6 months pregnant.
While driving myslef to the office a car behind me nearly hit the back of my little VW bug when I was waiting to turn left, saw them speeding towards me and decided to just hit the gas and go straight. Dam idiots.
Guess I was more shook up then I realized because when I got  in line my head was swirling and I had to go outside and sit down, just drove home without telling anyone.
Got hit on the back of the head in a school fight at age 17 by 2 Mexican chicks, hit with a very thick history book. Didn't black out but darn it was game on after that.
Fainted out cold at a T-Rex concert in Hollywood at age 15, was 15 when I was thrown off the horse as well, what a year.
Fainted because there was far too much smoke in the air at the indoor concert, was lifted over head a few rows and placed on the stage in the middle of the song, Bang- A- gong. Came to on stage and just walked off, stage left...Weird, wonder if one of these days I will just kick over and crash from getting hit on the head so many times.
Oh, yes walked into a door once and nearly passed out and hit my head inside a closet once while sorting clothing, nearly blacked out.
Forgot I cracked my head really hard on the roof of my 2 door Volvo when placing my 2 year old son in his car seat in the back seat.
Was the day before we flew into Hungary in 1978.
Had a golf ball sized bump on my poor head and a black eye... lovely.
Won't get into how many times our mother would hit us on the head with a frying pan or hairbrush, she had one heck of a temper.
Perhaps I should invest in a helmet?
Good idea to let your wife know where you are, don't want to do a Sonny Bono.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

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Fainted out cold at a T-Rex concert in Hollywood at age 15, was 15 when I was thrown off the horse as well, what a year.
Fainted because there was far too much smoke in the air at the indoor concert, was lifted over head a few rows and placed on the stage in the middle of the song, Bang- A- gong. Came to on stage and just walked off, stage left...Weird, wonder if one of these days I will just kick over and crash from getting hit on the head so many times.
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Won't get into how many times our mother would hit us on the head with a frying pan or hairbrush, she had one heck of a temper.
Perhaps I should invest in a helmet?
Good idea to let your wife know where you are, don't want to do a Sonny Bono.

Good lord, that's a real range of injuries and/or scrapes you've got into there.  More stuff for your forthcoming book!  Yes, we're back to that again.

Bangs on the head are always serious.   Poor old Sonny Bono did figure in my musical tastes because of being keen on him and Cher's duo for a bit.  But he disappeared from my radar when he went into politics - too parochial to care about.

But the one I really feel for is Liam Neeson and the loss of his better half Natasha Richardson.  Only 45 and quite a good actress. Poor old Liam was left with two young kids unexpectedly.  Bad karma.

Stupid as it might seem, I once accidentally closed the car door on my own head somehow. I am still not sure  how I did it but I think I was just not paying attention and tried to close it before I was fully in.  I really whacked my ear and scraped my head.  Surprising how sensitive one's flappy ears are! 

It's a bit like the soles of your feet which you walk and run around on.  I've had some minor procedures on my feet which involved injecting anaesthetic into the soles and that really hurts.

Bare feet, how can people do it?
We actually were never allowed to get barefooted as children unless we were swimming.
My mom was super paranold about us stepping on a rusty nail.
Can be serious I suppose, in fact one of my husband's uncles had a young daughter who died because she stepped on one and got tetnis.
I would of never remembered that but they took a photo of her in her coffin and showed it to me.
Guess that used to be a ,"thing" to take photos of the deceased in their last pose, even used to prop them up with living relations just as in one for the road...
Shouldn't be rude, we took one of my step-dad in his resting pose.
My younger bro, he is 14 years my jr. used to run around with his Mexican girlfriend barefoot.
I couldn't believe it, they visited us in Las Vegas in the summer and went barefootin'.  Even on hot gravel and walkways.
Well he probably will not be doing that ever again as one of his feet is minus 3 toes!
He cut his barefoot in the ocean on his honeymoon in Hawaii on a piece of coral.
They took off yet another toe just about 8 months ago. Not sure when it will end if ever...Been about a decade since he got an infection from the coral.
Just yesterday at the hairdresser's we were talking about nail care and my hairdresser said that most Hungarian pedicurists do not like to work on feet.
I'm 100% with them!
Did a pedi in beauty school on a fellow student and that was enough to turn me off from touching anyone's feet for life.
Have to admit most people have some funky feet, at least they look funky.
I did however out of the blue get a compliment once from my female yoga instructor in front of the entire class.
She said for a tall girl I had cute little feet and baby toes, very fem feet... Odd but I'll take it.
I remember in beauty school some of the students worked on feet and used what looked like a razor to remove old dead skin, it was beyond the call of duty to work on such horrible feet.
We do like to ground in warm weather by walking on the grass when possible without shoes on. Always on the lookout for rusty nails.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

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My mom was super paranold about us stepping on a rusty nail.
Can be serious I suppose, in fact one of my husband's uncles had a young daughter who died because she stepped on one and got tetnis.
I would of never remembered that but they took a photo of her in her coffin and showed it to me.
Guess that used to be a ,"thing" to take photos of the deceased in their last pose, even used to prop them up with living relations just as in one for the road...
Shouldn't be rude, we took one of my step-dad in his resting pose.
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Just yesterday at the hairdresser's we were talking about nail care and my hairdresser said that most Hungarian pedicurists do not like to work on feet.
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We do like to ground in warm weather by walking on the grass when possible without shoes on. Always on the lookout for rusty nails.

Of course a Rusty Nail is a drink - Drambuie and Whisky.  Not that one will ever pass my lips again.   

I know about that posing with the bodies thing. They used to do it in Victorian England. I think it's just as a momento of a moment as they were somehow in life. 

To be honest I have a photo of my Mum when she passed. I didn't like taking it but I am glad I did even though it might seem morbid.  It was the first time I'd actually seen a dead person. I realised very quickly that it was less frightening and shocking than I thought.  I was surprisingly composed and it was a life process not to be feared by the observer at least. Mrs Fluffy said you'll know it's not them anymore and she was really right about that.

I'm a bit surprised you said people died from tetanus within living memory.  Being vaccinated is so standard for that, I'd have thought it was almost impossible.

As for feet, yup, totally with that, ugly flappy things.  My feet are really ugly - far too big for my height. My dear old Mum had a theory that larger extremities like feet and hands would reflect in oversized other anatomical parts on a man.  For the much older generation, she certainly wasn't straight-laced.  And she wasn't afraid to let people know that kind of thing!

That's funny, my mom was the same, she was always trying to groom her girls into ladies but sometimes she would get down and dirty and just say things that would shock a sailor.
Sorry about your mum, it's not easy.
My younger sister and I did our mom's hair in the funeral home.
My step-dad had paid for her to have the "works" done, hair make up and such.
When she arrived to our home town she was only dressed up but no one had done her face or hair.
I surprised myself by not freaking out and touching her head and placing a nice hair band on her so her hair laid smooth before everyone came to "visit" her.
Never really thought of getting a "refund" for them not doing the job of grooming her before viewing.
In the end it was alright, she wasn't so vain in her later years and she looked like mom being natural.
Yes, this poor little girl died in Hungary in the 1950's I think from Tetanus. Think they hadn't given her a vax and when they realized what happened it was too late to help her.
My Ryusn grandmother was cut badly at age 12 while messing around some farm machinery  with another cousin.
Her father was not at home at the time and they lived a few miles from the nearest doctor. Her mom patched her up at home but her arm got seriously infected and they had to take her arm off.
This lead to a huge thing , her parents divorced because of it and it was the talk of several villages.
poor granny...
She was born in 1902 so suppose this was in 1914.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

That's funny, my mom was the same, she was always trying to groom her girls into ladies but sometimes she would get down and dirty and just say things that would shock a sailor.
Sorry about your mum, it's not easy.
My younger sister and I did our mom's hair in the funeral home.
My step-dad had paid for her to have the "works" done, hair make up and such.
When she arrived to our home town she was only dressed up but no one had done her face or hair.
I surprised myself by not freaking out and touching her head and placing a nice hair band on her so her hair laid smooth before everyone came to "visit" her.
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My Ryusn grandmother was cut badly at age 12 while messing around some farm machinery  with another cousin.
Her father was not at home at the time and they lived a few miles from the nearest doctor. Her mom patched her up at home but her arm got seriously infected and they had to take her arm off.
This lead to a huge thing , her parents divorced because of it and it was the talk of several villages.
poor granny...
She was born in 1902 so suppose this was in 1914.

I didn't fix up my Mum's hair (she'd have looked like a punk or Elvis if I did it - Mum has left the building).  I don't think anyone did as it would have been pointless - cremation. I don't think she was dressed in any way.  There are rules and regulations on what can be in there - no plastics or rubber for pollution control.  Quite right really.

That's a shame about your grandma having one arm.  Obviously it didn't hold her back.   But I guess it was a no-brainer to take her arm off.  That or die.  They didn't know about penicillin back then or even possibly basic hygiene.  Shame about it.    If you read about antibiotics, it took a long time to get into production even during WW2 but it saved a lot of people.   It's one of those scientific discoveries no-one recognised as significant at the time.    Took years to get it recognised and into mainstream use.

I was watching a TV show where some people from a 1000+ years ago were in a windswept and insanitary location and a woman was giving birth and it was a breech delivery.  It was obvious she was going to die if they did a basic Cesarean.  However, as a bit of TV stretching the truth, they managed to turn the baby for a normal delivery.  From my readings before, childbirth could be a death sentence.  They had no idea.   

Basic medical training in schools is really needed for everyone.  I'm considering all my kids should go for basic training - how to do CPR, clean and disinfect wounds, recovery position, ABC etc.  I am not sure they do that in Hungary.

Yes, penicillin would of saved my grandmother on my mom's side.
She passed away when my mum was only 13 and my auntie 11.
They were left in the care of the native Mohawk granny and 2 aunts.
Till my mother's dying day, she always said she missed her mother more then anything.
My Ruysn granny must of been the ,"bomb" to attract my crazy US born Ruysn grandfather and take a ship with 2 small children by herself from Poland to NY in the late 1920's.
I have only seen one photo of her, not bad, sort of tiny really.
My mom was really glam before she married but in the end it was sort of alright that she didn't have herself all "dolled" up because she was more salt of the earth then Hollywood.
My mother was also cremated but my step-dad , probably out of guilt, made sure my mom was sent off with a hearse taking her from N Ca. to our small town for a viewing with her old neighbors and children.
It was a lot of money but in the end he did right by her, she deserved it and then some.
I made sure all of my siblings paid on the day of her funeral to all chip in for her headstone. I know those sibs, they would of pissed away any funds left to them within weeks if I hadn't gone after them to pay up. Hate playing the heavy but I can if needed.
Was rather nice to see all the old neighbors show up to say their good-byes to my mother, even some of their adult children showed up to say bye.
I was really extremely mad that my deceased step-dad's uncle, his wife and his aunt came in their Royal's Royce, bunch of "pretenders".
His uncle had the dam nerve to pick up the container which held my mother's cremains and say how light it felt.
I wanted to punch him so hard but was frozen in anger instead.
Dam snobs that I didn't invite at all.
All good, I am sure they all are pushing daisy's now and I could care less.
My sister and her boyfriend arrived to mom's funeral about 20 mins after it was over with!
She was high and drunk and mad that we didn't wait for her!
People blow my mind at times...
There is a funeral/cremation office located on our st.One day they were open, about 3 years ago while we walked past. My husband out of the blue went in to ask how much it costs to be cremated here in Hungary. At the time it was around $500.
Wow, the info stored in my brain!!

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

Yes, penicillin would of saved my grandmother on my mom's side.
She passed away when my mum was only 13 and my auntie 11.
They were left in the care of the native Mohawk granny and 2 aunts.
Till my mother's dying day, she always said she missed her mother more then anything.
My Ruysn granny must of been the ,"bomb" to attract my crazy US born Ruysn grandfather and take a ship with 2 small children by herself from Poland to NY in the late 1920's.
I have only seen one photo of her, not bad, sort of tiny really.
My mom was really glam before she married but in the end it was sort of alright that she didn't have herself all "dolled" up because she was more salt of the earth then Hollywood.
My mother was also cremated but my step-dad , probably out of guilt, made sure my mom was sent off with a hearse taking her from N Ca. to our small town for a viewing with her old neighbors and children.
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I was really extremely mad that my deceased step-dad's uncle, his wife and his aunt came in their Royal's Royce, bunch of "pretenders".
His uncle had the dam nerve to pick up the container which held my mother's cremains and say how light it felt......
My sister and her boyfriend arrived to mom's funeral about 20 mins after it was over with!
She was high and drunk and mad that we didn't wait for her!
People blow my mind at times...
There is a funeral/cremation office located on our st.One day they were open, about 3 years ago while we walked past. My husband out of the blue went in to ask how much it costs to be cremated here in Hungary. At the time it was around $500.
Wow, the info stored in my brain!!

Wow, quite a story there.  I don't get it Marilyn.  You've got so many weird and wonderful anecdotes of strange (to many) goings on that really, this should be down on paper or at least online in some way. 

No disrespect, the funeral sounds almost as wacky as the movie Death at a Funeral (only the UK one, forget the USA version as it's not as good).

I also made a faux pas years ago when I went to a HU funeral and a relative turned up with a box and I said, oh, what's in it? A cake?  Pizza?

I thought it was for the wake afterwards but it turned out it was the ashes! 

Luckily he didn't speak English enough to know what he said but Mrs Fluffy and I had a bit of a guilty smile over that one.

$500 for a cremation is cheap. It's like $1200 in the UK.  The funeral people will rip you off.  I was involved in planning a funeral a while back. There's nothing to stop someone buying a cardboard coffin for their relative, putting them in it (preferably when they're dead) and taking it to the crematorium.  Obviously there's paperwork to do before doing that!

That was a crazy faux pas... Good thing you didn't lick your lips as if I can't wait to have some!
Yes, my mom's funeral was funny, for anyone not personally involved.
My sister showed up 20 mins late and drunk, was swearing at everyone even the minister for not waiting for her!
During mom's visitation hours 3 days before her burial( takes time to toast a person over the weekend) my husband son and I went all "conservative. I even curled my hair, something I never do, son had on a suit and tie and so
did my husband, I wore a classic black dress suit and stockings, felt so "normal". My sister showed up high on something with her boyfriend, she was wearing some jeans and a Army surplus jacket, she actually put one hand on the coffin to support herself from falling over while she told lame jokes. I was torn between wanting to punch her out, crying or just leaving. I sat there instead boiling with anger inside.
When I am very angry I either go crazy or very very quiet.
Didn't see the purpose of making matters worst so kept myself in check.
Oh well, I sometimes think I am a "targeted" person because the most insane things happen around me that it sometimes seems it couldn't of actually happened.
When my MIL passed away in Hungary my husband had to fly over from Vegas. He stayed for about a month afterwards to try and settle her affairs.
His mom had pre-paid for her funeral, that is a thing here with old Hungarians, they love to talk about how they have already arranged for their own passing. Well last min my husband decided to give her a bigger send off then she had planned onHe paid the priest more to put on his "high hat" . Guess the higher their hat the higher one is to God? Don't know but sort of glad I missed that event.

Today sure was beautiful outside, nice and sunny.
Trying to do small errands around the place before spring arrives.
Have plans to be busy with no time for minor things around the old place.
Today we walked past a new restaurant and decided to just pop in for an early dinner.
We usually eat early but 2:30 was a bit early for dinner.
Ok, so there were about 6 people around at different tables eating.
We had a small bag from the grocery store and placed it on an empty seat with a  long table.
The next 2 tables were also empty.
I took off my gloves and placed them on top of the table with our grocery bag near by on the seat.
We stepped about 6 feet away to make our selection for dinner.
I had an odd feeling as I usually do when I put my gloves on the table top, just thought I was too trusting .
Yes, I was, some women I had not noticed finished her meal and decided in a very "creepy" way to open her handbag on the table right near my gloves, she then took a ton of items out of her bag and then started to put them back.
Can't fool me... I just walked over and picked up my gloves, it was so obvious what she was trying to do... steal them by, "accident".
I looked hard her hard but she didn't even flinch a muscle, she was a pro I guess, nothing would shame her.
All good but next time I guess I'll have to stuff my gloves in my pockets.
Just sort of weird to notice how low some people can be, or they have no social skills at all.
It does suck when  you can't trust a soul.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

I looked hard her hard but she didn't even flinch a muscle, she was a pro I guess,

On vacation in Italy, one tram had two very fat women got on at one station, got off at the next, all the time pressing, pushing and annoying everyone on the tram.

Damn it if they did not pick my pocket. All that pushing by them hid the pocket picking.

My credit cards. My passport. Spent most of the day at the US embassy getting  new passport and canceling my cards, then at the police station to report the crime. But my cards still had by then over $2,000 in charges. Took me moths to correct. And I lost a lot of time I wanted to spend enjoying Rome.

But.... That  being said..... Quite frankly, I was impressed. Even a thief, when well executed deserves some respect for their art.... And they certainly had their art perfected.

Oddly, after my trip, when checking sources, those sources said to be aware of the public transportation tram I took, as it was a common source for thieves.

And darn it they actually listed that tram I was on as one specially one to avoid. As thieves frequently it regularly. So it was in part my fault for not checking before I arrived..... 

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

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I took off my gloves and placed them on top of the table with our grocery bag near by on the seat.
We stepped about 6 feet away to make our selection for dinner.
I had an odd feeling as I usually do when I put my gloves on the table top, just thought I was too trusting .
Yes, I was, some women I had not noticed finished her meal and decided in a very "creepy" way to open her handbag on the table right near my gloves, she then took a ton of items out of her bag and then started to put them back.
Can't fool me... I just walked over and picked up my gloves, it was so obvious what she was trying to do... steal them by, "accident".
I looked hard her hard but she didn't even flinch a muscle, she was a pro I guess, nothing would shame her.
All good but next time I guess I'll have to stuff my gloves in my pockets.
Just sort of weird to notice how low some people can be, or they have no social skills at all.
It does suck when  you can't trust a soul.

I was pick pocketed down at Deak Ter way back in the 1990s.  I couldn't believe how quickly they tried to use my cards. By the time I got back to my desk and called them,  they had already tried to use them about 10 times and it was only about 20 minutes beforeI noticed it was gone.  They also got my passport.  That was major hassle.  I think the losses to the card company was about $7K.   

What I don't like in HU is that foreigners should carry their original passports with them.  The idea of course in the current hostile environment is that the cops can see your immigration status.  It means you have to carry it to the swimming pool and whatever. Not easy. 

Today, I am really rather unhappy with what I'm reading now in the news about the teaching of history in HU.  I don't want my kids to be brainwashed. I want them to be free thinkers, free to have critical thought and free to learn multiple sides of a story and be able to balance it all up in their own way. 

My kids will have the benefit of Fluffy parents to engage them in these discussions but some right wing (cf. ignorantly foolish) parents will bring their kids up to be unbalanced fascists.  This is just going the wrong way.  Something very wrong with the world just now.  I am beginning to wonder if I'm in an episode of "The Man in the High Castle".

Click to see what raised my ire.

klsallee wrote:

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But.... That  being said..... Quite frankly, I was impressed. Even a thief, when well executed deserves some respect for their art.... And they certainly had their art perfected.

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I dunno, if  they were magicians on the stage, then maybe.

Having been the victim of burglaries in HU and the UK, there can be quite severe mental repercussions - a sense of violation of your person and by extension your personal space.    Someone meant ill will to you for no particular reason other than their selfish personal self-enrichment.    It can be the cause a severe mental stress - your home is no longer a safe space to relax in.     Some people even think their living spaces are now unclean, dirty and simply not to be trusted.  I can relate to that.

I can sort of imagine - hopelessly and without anything to back it up - how it might be to be the victim of some violent incident.  Being shot at, or injured, or your loved ones being victimised for their race or ethnicity.  Simply because you are you or they are them.

Musing over this for a minute or two - and there are some parallels with being robbed,  I was the victim of a kind of racism on a trip to a far away country a couple of years ago where the majority of the persons were black. I'm a pasty faced European.  I was accused of being a misogynist and a racist (i.e. anti-black) person all at the same time.   It was all unjustifiable and ridiculous.  The accuser actually got my name wrong and mixed me up with someone else who had expressed such unkind thoughts previously!  Naturally the perp did not own up. 

Suddenly I was thrust into this melee.  It was truly bewildering and truly shocking especially - I might even say the experience shows the surprise indicates a entitlement to white privilege.  In the end justice was not done and I decided to leave for other work in a neighbouring country.  Sometimes there's nothing you can do about it either as you are what you are and you are surrounded by the majority and odds are stacked against you.    So get out while you can.

In some ways it was a lesson as I wondered if this is what black folks experience regularly in majority white nations tinged with xenophobic thinking.    Or perhaps in another dimension of the same, another slice  of what it's like to be targeted for your religion or whatever.

Wow, those are some stories.
I really didn't want to see my gloves, "get into the wrong hands"...

My hubby wanted to move us over to S. Africa in 1975.
He went to check things out for about 6 weeks alone.We were young and couldn't afford the $1,700. round trip ticket for each of us.
Needless to say, he returned and never spoke about it much again.

Husband was robbed of his duty free itmes he had with him at Keliti station once. He was fumbling in his wallet and had the bag of gifts between his feet.A group of wild Gypsy boys were running around and presto, he looked down and the bag was long gone, didn't even feel them take it away.

I had a gun pointed to my head once, not a good feeling, made me shocked and mad at the same time, didn't cry until I got home and saw one of my friends. She was a sweet Mormon lady and I trusted her so I allowed myself to break down and give it a good cry. After that I was mad, used to scan the streets in my car to try and find the jerk, figured he must live close by...Everytime I saw a brown 450 SL Benz on the road I hit the gas to catch up to them... Like really what was I going to do if I caught up anyways? Maybe get the rest of their plate number and call the cops again...
Thank God so far, knock on wood we haven't been scammed out of thousands of dollars but you never know, I don't even trust the banks any longer.

I think we all have been brainwashed by the school systems. Doesn't matter which country you went to school in, they are all on the same program. In histroy only the victors write the story.
I really think if I still had a school age child around, I would look into home schooling, at least try to find some like minded people and we could figure out a plan of action.
I know for one thing, I wouldn't be in charge of the English classes... My grammar and spelling are not my strong points!
I would be in charge of "ditch day!".

Corona virus is getting closer - now with the neighbours:

Coronavirus in Croatia and Austria

fluffy2560 wrote:

Corona virus is getting closer - now with the neighbours:

Coronavirus in Croatia and Austria

Yes, saw some news last night on U tube, A town in Italy is in lock down. I wonder if the cure is going to be worst then the illness though.
Seems a bit to me like a good way to control people , say they are ill, move them into a camp and then they die off, their property must be burnt and end of story...I always try to look at who is gaining by any agendas. If you wish, he can be a bit of a crazy man at first, check out The Fullerton Infomer on U Tube. He isn't stupid, as several degrees and was studying to be a doctor. He is not paid for his channel either like many others are. In fact the often try to cut his live streams.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

fluffy2560 wrote:

Corona virus is getting closer - now with the neighbours:

Coronavirus in Croatia and Austria

Yes, saw some news last night on U tube, A town in Italy is in lock down. I wonder if the cure is going to be worst then the illness though.

...

It's really indicative of the times we live in - all interconnected, all moving, all open borders mostly.  It'll be all over Europe in a flash.   

I don't really get it, the death rate is not as high as SARS or MERS and Estimated Flu-Related Illnesses.  It's like the Y2K problem.  Not much happened on that either in the end.  If it mutates, then we could be in the doo.  But it might mutate to something harmless.

I read on the BBC, that eating stuff like bats and the poor old endangered pangolins looks like a potential source of the problem.  That's where wild animals have viruses not normally found in humans.  Not a good idea to eat that stuff - it's like bushmeat as the source of Ebola.

I personally believe it is a man made bio weapon.
How else can "they" get rid of the petro dollar but to do something so radical that people will go digital with money. They were spreading news in China that bills could carry the virus...
Just fear and more fear.
I do remember when they Rodney King trail was going on.
Woudn't you know it, the case was held in my old home town.
Such a weird place to grow up that trail and the Manson family all in one, not to mention other cluts living in the hills out there, even met some dude who lived in a tree house in the hills...
Funny thing was my now deceased sister had a serious school crush on that dude in school...
Anwyas, when the trail was going on we had a city wide curfew, had to be in by 8 pm.
Went to the grocery store and all the food was gone. Creepy.

I decided once again to look into the creepy history of my old home town.
What a place!
Besides the Blackburn cult there was one I never heard of before, suprized as they had over 300 members and 50 houses in the hills.
They called themselves, Pisgah Grande Sect.
Also there was the Krishan Venta Sect.
The Manson family at Spahn ranch were late comers.
This site I found also named a ton of old western tv shows that were filmed there.
A ton of B movies as well.
I know the Disney film, "The Doberman Gang" was shot on my street.
Other not so famous films filmed in town made me laugh, sound like total trash.
Let's see some of the names were, Satan's Sadits, Ramrodder, Lash of Lust and we can't leave out the title film, Revenge of the Virgins.
There was also the largest nuke meltdown in US history at Santa Sue Labs but since it was a test lab they didn't report it until many decades later...No wonder most people from my home town are a bit off...

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

I decided once again to look into the creepy history of my old home town.
What a place!
Besides the Blackburn cult there was one I never heard of before, suprized as they had over 300 members and 50 houses in the hills.
They called themselves, Pisgah Grande Sect.
Also there was the Krishan Venta Sect.
The Manson family at Spahn ranch were late comers.
This site I found also named a ton of old western tv shows that were filmed there.
A ton of B movies as well.
I know the Disney film, "The Doberman Gang" was shot on my street.
Other not so famous films filmed in town made me laugh, sound like total trash.
Let's see some of the names were, Satan's Sadits, Ramrodder, Lash of Lust and we can't leave out the title film, Revenge of the Virgins.
There was also the largest nuke meltdown in US history at Santa Sue Labs but since it was a test lab they didn't report it until many decades later...No wonder most people from my home town are a bit off...

I've got questions:

1) What makes that area some sort of breeding ground for sects?  Something in the water?  Air?

2) Any known mutants living there as a result of the nuclear meltdown?

3) Revenge of the Virgins?   What kind of revenge would they be thinking of?!  Revenge for being virgins or revenge for not being virgins any longer? 

I already get the picture with Ramrodder.  Not one made by Disney.

BTW, while I'm here, I'm wondering how the USA is going to handle the coronavirus?  As I type DT is going to address the nation about it I suppose.  But I am wondering how the health care system will deal with it.  I read someone tested for coronavirus was given a bill for $3500.  So that's hardly going to encourage people to rush over to their local healthcare provider.  It means in poorer communities this could spread like wildfire (already way down on immunisation rates/herd immunity).  It's be like a fire spreading in slum housing.   I am wondering if it will have any knock-ons in resurrecting a new version of the ACA (Affordable Care Act).  That would be a major DT climb down.

Many mutants in Simi, the Santa Susana Field Lab exploded and the chems and rads got into the water....
I know more people from my home town who have/had cancer or someone in their family had/has it.
Of course those greedy Bast*** who built homes for thousands of families never disclosed this until it was found out much later.
We also were told some homes were built on native American graves...
My mom worked at that field lab in the early 1960's the accident was in 1959. Even she didn't know about the accident whenwe bought our house in 1966-67.
Have a love/hate relationship with that place.
This small town was a "get away" from the city  People were still able to ride their horses down the main blvd. and orange trees were all over the place. When my parents bought a home there. My step-father traveled for over one hour to work daily just because they loved living in the hills away from it all...
Many nutters also love living away from it all too.

Not sure about the US and the "virus" used to be they would give free exams and shots to citizens if needed but those days are gone.

I and my friend . my room mate got the flue when I was 17 so badly we thought we were done for.
Locked up in our hotel room,our gay male friend rented a hotel room by the month . No food , no hot drinks or meds just water and passing out cold for about 3 days, just got up to stumble to the WC and be sick.Our gay roomie was not home for a few days, had a new boyfriend at the time and was hanging at his place.
No one checked on us as no one knew we were ill.
Guess getting that ill at an old age would do one in.
I recovered within a week, scary though to think you could just die and no one would know about it until it was unbearable to breathe. Yuck.
Been very ill a few times in my life, I know no one goes before their time.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

Many mutants in Simi, the Santa Susana Field Lab exploded and the chems and rads got into the water....
I know more people from my home town who have/had cancer or someone in their family had/has it.
Of course those greedy Bast*** who built homes for thousands of families never disclosed this until it was found out much later.
We also were told some homes were built on native American graves...
My mom worked at that field lab in the early 1960's the accident was in 1959. Even she didn't know about the accident whenwe bought our house in 1966-67.
.....
Many nutters also love living away from it all too.

Not sure about the US and the "virus" used to be they would give free exams and shots to citizens if needed but those days are gone.

I and my friend . my room mate got the flue when I was 17 so badly we thought we were done for.
Locked up in our hotel room,our gay male friend rented a hotel room by the month . No food , no hot drinks or meds just water and passing out cold for about 3 days, just got up to stumble to the WC and be sick.Our gay roomie was not home for a few days, had a new boyfriend at the time and was hanging at his place.
No one checked on us as no one knew we were ill.
Guess getting that ill at an old age would do one in.
I recovered within a week, scary though to think you could just die and no one would know about it until it was unbearable to breathe. Yuck.
Been very ill a few times in my life, I know no one goes before their time.

I actually read up on that place.  Jeez, you'd think they'd be suing the hell out of the government forever over what they did - burning nuclear waste, shooting at it and blowing it up.  How irresponsible! 

Reminds of those nuclear blasted islands in the Pacific like Bikini or Runit Island leaking nuclear death all over.  What were people thinking?!  Insanity.

As for houses over Native American burial sites, that's straight out of the plot of Poltergeist.  Good movie.  I was very keen on JoBeth Williams at the time.  Shame about Heather O'Rourke, the kid sucked into the other world, she died young. 

I know all about the flu. If you get the real one, it's exactly as you say.  People don't know until they've had the real one.  It's like death warmed up.

Mrs Fluffy and I had it.  First me, then her.  We were staying with my brother who didn't seem to recognise how ill we were.  I could not even get out of bed and I was drenched. Must have been a really high temperature.  Mrs Fluffy was the same just a day later.  I felt like I'd been through the meat grinder. It sucked it right out us.  I even considered calling an ambulance for us as we'd been just left to fester upstairs while they were all watching TV downstairs.  Really strange.  Not even an aspirin.   

I had it once before that. I was in bed for days.  The other guy I shared a house with had gone to work and didn't even bother to check on me.  As I hadn't phoned work and no-one called me, they eventually sent someone to check on me. Luckily I was able to answer the door 3 days later when they finally turned up!

I wasn't impressed by DT's Coronavirus comparison to the flu.  The guy's an imbecile and he got his facts wrong. Putting Mike Pence in charge of anything ain't gonna cut it either.   What's he going to do about it? Pray it away while keeping away from his wife?

I am not sure but think it was the "Rocker" Vince Neil who went to court over the land near his home in Ca, being ruined by that 1959 Field lab accident. His daughter had cancer and died. Sad,Like I mentioned, know so many people from there with at least 2 family members with cancer, most have already passed on.
Like my friend who died on my BD in Dec. her younger bro died of cancer just a couple years before her. Their father is like 96 and still lives in town and is fine?
Pray it away, could work, maybe?
Today my SIL in Ca asked once again for prayers for her son.
I was a bit confused, she has 3 sons.
2 are from her marriage to a black man so they are bi-racial but her eldest is white, he is probably the one she wants prayers for. He had 2 kidney transplants so far and is only in his mid 30's a father of 2 small children.
He must be getting ill again.
She wrote about 2 weeks ago about one of her younger sons, he just finished some sort of art/film school last year and is working on Mission Impossible 7 with Tommy Cruise.
She was sort of bragging that her son was sitting on set next to Tom, she wanted to just show up but her son didn't pay her any mind.
Not sure how he landed such a big job right out of school, maybe they know people in the industry?
Guess the movie is on hold now since they were to shoot in Venice , Italy and they cancelled it for now.
Today she wrote how sad she is that her BFF died today from thyroid cancer,She just found out she was ill this past Dec. went down fast.
My SIL is always asking for prayers, she needs her own church at this point!
Funny thing she told me last time we all met up in Vegas.
In the parking lot she went on about her black husband of 10 years. He always told her she was ugly or this or that. She actually has a sweet, pretty Nordic face with blonde hair and blue eyes, rather pretty in reality.
Come to find out her ex husband was gay all those years and that's why he was putting her down all the time, didn't want his "secret" to get out. At least that was her side of the story.
Never would of thought her past was so crazy but you never know.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

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Today my SIL in Ca asked once again for prayers for her son.
I was a bit confused, she has 3 sons.
2 are from her marriage to a black man so they are bi-racial but her eldest is white, he is probably the one she wants prayers for. He had 2 kidney transplants so far and is only in his mid 30's a father of 2 small children.
He must be getting ill again.
She wrote about 2 weeks ago about one of her younger sons, he just finished some sort of art/film school last year and is working on Mission Impossible 7 with Tommy Cruise.
She was sort of bragging that her son was sitting on set next to Tom, she wanted to just show up but her son didn't pay her any mind.
Not sure how he landed such a big job right out of school, maybe they know people in the industry?
Guess the movie is on hold now since they were to shoot in Venice , Italy and they cancelled it for now.
Today she wrote how sad she is that her BFF died today from thyroid cancer,She just found out she was ill this past Dec. went down fast......
In the parking lot she went on about her black husband of 10 years. He always told her she was ugly or this or that. She actually has a sweet, pretty Nordic face with blonde hair and blue eyes, rather pretty in reality.
Come to find out her ex husband was gay all those years and that's why he was putting her down all the time, didn't want his "secret" to get out. At least that was her side of the story.
Never would of thought her past was so crazy but you never know.

Sorry to hear about the guy's kidney problems. Maybe he's got sickle cell or something. I saw a documentary on it recently and it ain't good.  But in the documentary, they were giving a kid gene therapy.  No idea of the outcome.   If it worked then I am sure they would have said. Kid was on some kind of dialysis or similar for years.  He was pretty stoic though and much older in his outlook than his years would imply.

MI7 and Tom Cruise.  He's a small guy like Alan Ladd.  If you see him next to his leading ladies, the camera angles are always set up to show him as much larger than he is.  Alan Ladd had his leading ladies standing in holes rather than him standing on a box.  Too full of his own importance.  Box not good enough for Mr Laddio.   I haven't seen the MI films since about No. 4.  Your Mission Jim is not to watch Mission Impossible films.  This thread will self-destruct.... but will the guy get paid for having an unexpected holiday?  Maybe do some touring in Europe if they do?  They  should really keep them on retainer.  Tom can afford it and maybe they have insurance.

I expect the closet gay guy was channelling his anger into her.  If he'd just come out then he wouldn't waste her time or his.   Bit selfish really - pretend to be straight but all the time playing for the other team.   10 years down the tubes on both sides.   

But then in break ups, people accuse each other of all sorts of nonsense - drugs, gambling, blah-blah and who really knows another person.   But if no kids, nothing owed, then clean break, then a wave and adios!

It is her one white son who is ill so no sickle cell with him.
He was born ill, she has tried to make her peace with his illness. Told me she gave him to God when he was born and so far he is sticking around.
Yes, today she wrote that not only her friend died yesterday but her friend's mother died just the day before,talk about a bad time for that family.
Her son working on the film said it was sort of getting boring becuase they had to stop all the time while Tom checked the process, he didn't want to look old so they had to reshoot a ton of stuff.
Short, yes many actors had to stand on boxes because their leading ladies were much taller or other actors made them look smaller.
My MIL was about 5'9" tall and my FIL was about 5'6", she never got to wear heels.
Her second husband was taller though.
My father was taller then all of his 4 brothers and he only stood at 5"8" but I think he was more like 5'7" barefoot.
My mom was short at 5'4" tall but her father the German was 6'4" tall.
Never know what someone will end up looking like.
I have aunties on my dad's side that were like 5'2" tall and under 100lbs. I always felt like a giant as child next to them.
My mom stopped trying to smack my brother when he acted up after he grew taller then her, guess he was 12 when he got un manhandled by her.

Was thinking of running to the shop for some rolls and wine.
Noticed many sites were saying people have made food runs in Hungary?
Panic attack?
Reminds me again of when the Rodney King trial was going on , the LA riots were happeneing.
We had a  8pm curfew and we lived a good 50 miles from the riots. Could hear police sirens all night long as they went fast up and down the streets.
I went to buy a few items from a big grocery store in Encino, a sort of posh area , the shelves were almost bare, all bread was gone , only some hotdog rolls were left, All bottled water was gone and the TP was gone. That felt creepy seeing that.
My bro and his wife lived close to riots because he liked to live close to his job at LAX. They slept a few nights in shifts in the rocking chairs in their living room with their guns loaded.
Crazy stuff. My ex-SIL was a tough black lady who was a US Army PM and had also worked for a bit for the FBI.
I would be afraid to cross her path.
Even my 80 year old neighbor called us up and told us not to worry. She was ready, she just needed us to come over and for my husband to figure out which bullets went in which gun.!
Wow people will panic at the drop of a hat.
My cousin this morning asked me if we have a bug out house. He now lives in the mountains 26 miles from anyone. Locked and loaded I guess, just insane
I told him what good is it to have supplies when you can't own guns? Someone stronger is going to get your stuff.
I thought he was the normal cousin too, his bro is the one with the can goods and guns, guess I am related to a bunch of survival freaks.
I'm good, who wants to live forever anyways... Dang this topic is odd.
My older sisters FIL died in the 1960's in Ca. They had to clean out his home to sell it.

His entire 2 car garage was full of expired rusty cans of food...
Gues it is like they used to say during the Nam war, praise the Lord and pass the ammo!

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

It is her one white son who is ill so no sickle cell with him.
He was born ill, she has tried to make her peace with his illness. Told me she gave him to God when he was born and so far he is sticking around.
Yes, today she wrote that not only her friend died yesterday but her friend's mother died just the day before,talk about a bad time for that family.
Her son working on the film said it was sort of getting boring becuase they had to stop all the time while Tom checked the process, he didn't want to look old so they had to reshoot a ton of stuff.
Short, yes many actors had to stand on boxes because their leading ladies were much taller or other actors made them look smaller.
My MIL was about 5'9" tall and my FIL was about 5'6", she never got to wear heels.
Her second husband was taller though.
My father was taller then all of his 4 brothers and he only stood at 5"8" but I think he was more like 5'7" barefoot.
My mom was short at 5'4" tall but her father the German was 6'4" tall.
Never know what someone will end up looking like.
I have aunties on my dad's side that were like 5'2" tall and under 100lbs. I always felt like a giant as child next to them.
My mom stopped trying to smack my brother when he acted up after he grew taller then her, guess he was 12 when he got un manhandled by her.

Was thinking of running to the shop for some rolls and wine.
Noticed many sites were saying people have made food runs in Hungary?
Panic attack?
Reminds me again of when the Rodney King trial was going on , the LA riots were happeneing.
We had a  8pm curfew and we lived a good 50 miles from the riots. Could hear police sirens all night long as they went fast up and down the streets.
I went to buy a few items from a big grocery store in Encino, a sort of posh area , the shelves were almost bare, all bread was gone , only some hotdog rolls were left, All bottled water was gone and the TP was gone. That felt creepy seeing that.
My bro and his wife lived close to riots because he liked to live close to his job at LAX. They slept a few nights in shifts in the rocking chairs in their living room with their guns loaded.
Crazy stuff. My ex-SIL was a tough black lady who was a US Army PM and had also worked for a bit for the FBI.
I would be afraid to cross her path.
Even my 80 year old neighbor called us up and told us not to worry. She was ready, she just needed us to come over and for my husband to figure out which bullets went in which gun.!
Wow people will panic at the drop of a hat.
My cousin this morning asked me if we have a bug out house. He now lives in the mountains 26 miles from anyone. Locked and loaded I guess, just insane
I told him what good is it to have supplies when you can't own guns? Someone stronger is going to get your stuff.
I thought he was the normal cousin too, his bro is the one with the can goods and guns, guess I am related to a bunch of survival freaks.
I'm good, who wants to live forever anyways... Dang this topic is odd.
My older sisters FIL died in the 1960's in Ca. They had to clean out his home to sell it.

His entire 2 car garage was full of expired rusty cans of food...
Gues it is like they used to say during the Nam war, praise the Lord and pass the ammo!

Yes sorry missed it due to  multi-tasking badly that it was the white child, no sickle indeed.   Sorry to say but the loons are the ones who should definitely not have access to guns.  As soon as you get out the hardware, it's an escalation - fighting fire with fire.     

As you might have guessed by my odd posting times, I'm not actually in Hungary at the moment but very far away on an isolated island (where the little pigs are digging, yes, really, they are, I've seen them). 

There's no viruses here, the shops are full of stuff and everyone is carrying on as normal and the restaurants are busy.  The ship came in and there was variously a mango rush and a load of new cars and trucks.    When I leave, I won't be able to come back possibly unless I spend 14 days in an uninfected country (where the hell is that?).

Meanwhile Mrs Fluffy told me my BIL went with his GF to Spar in the basement of Allee and bought 50K HUF's worth of food.  They could hardly carry it.  That's insane.  Mrs Fluffy also said Aldi doesn't have any pasta.  All gone.  I am sure the pasta shortage will be fixed soon by a pasta flood and it'll be discounted. Aldi has weird logistics anyway - sometimes you see something and it's all gone in 5 minutes and then it comes back overpriced and they cannot shift it.

Strangely enough, as I was day dreaming while driving to the office each morning during my visit here, I was musing about the dogs on this island who mainly half ignored but very tolerated by the locals.  There are lots of them running about and I was wondering if they would eventually all look the same as they are making puppies continuously (some of them outside my window).  Eventually any differences would be evened out perhaps.   I did notice there were some dogs that looked semi hairless and another bunch with really short legs, like basset hounds.  The short leg dogs seemed common in one part of the island and the semi-hairless dogs are in another part of the island with a hill in between - i.e. isolated from each other.   I presume someone had a basset hound there once with a dominant short leg gene around there and the hairless ancestor was elsewhere. 

I mention all this because of your post about the different heights and Tom Cruise.  I suppose within any group, there's variations anyway - I mean not all kids of the same parents look the same.  So over time Tommy boy's genes down the ages should end up with a less than average height persons.  I'm on shaky ground here as my knowledge of genetics is zero.  I am now wondering how long it would take if Tommo was on an isolated island with some willing ladies (think early Raquel Welch in 10000 years BC especially with that hair and furry bikini) to create an entirely new species of short legged people (mostly vain thespians). Maybe 100,000 years?  Or maybe I should stick to the dogs.  10000 years maybe?   

Hmmm......

Tropical climate sounds great at the moment.
It is like winter has finally arrived in Hungary today.
Cold and windy.
Got in from our local Aldi.
No troubles the store was fully stocked and not too busy for a Friday.
50K on food is dumb...
I hope they didn't buy frozen foods cause when it hits, then power will go off.
My  MIL lived for years on whatever they could get during WW11 in Budapest.
I know how to make flour soup with a touch of caraway seeds,
Not sure what they ate in those years but my MIL didn't see the light of day for 2 years. She was hidden in the cellar with my then 2 years old SIL.
People really do not need to eat as much as they think they do.
I told my husband though if there was a wine shortage, then I may start to panic!
When we visited Belize there were tons of stray dogs running around Belize City.
There were no trash bins behind buildings, just piles of rotting trash left out.The poor things were going through the piles to find food.
I was going to purchase some dog food and leave it out for them but my husband told me no. It would insult the locals.
Guess he had a point plus a few good meals wasn't going to help much in the long run.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

Tropical climate sounds great at the moment.
It is like winter has finally arrived in Hungary today.
Cold and windy.
Got in from our local Aldi.
No troubles the store was fully stocked and not too busy for a Friday.
50K on food is dumb...
I hope they didn't buy frozen foods cause when it hits, then power will go off.
My  MIL lived for years on whatever they could get during WW11 in Budapest.
I know how to make flour soup with a touch of caraway seeds,
Not sure what they ate in those years but my MIL didn't see the light of day for 2 years. She was hidden in the cellar with my then 2 years old SIL.
People really do not need to eat as much as they think they do.
I told my husband though if there was a wine shortage, then I may start to panic!
When we visited Belize there were tons of stray dogs running around Belize City.
There were no trash bins behind buildings, just piles of rotting trash left out.The poor things were going through the piles to find food.
I was going to purchase some dog food and leave it out for them but my husband told me no. It would insult the locals.
Guess he had a point plus a few good meals wasn't going to help much in the long run.

Last film I liked with TC in it was War of the Worlds.   Just to get that out the way.   Kids liked it too.

I don't think we're going to see an apocalypse on this virus.  But looking back to the Spanish flu, 50 million died worldwide.   Hunkering down in the basement and eating almost nothing isn't going to be necessary.  And bugging out to the hills while tooled up, nah, no need.  I personally think I'd survive quite well in an apocalypse so long as it wasn't raging zombies or war with the Russians, Omega Man style.   I really like that movie - impressed me when I saw it in the cinema as a kid.

My dog ramblings were perhaps a bit strange.  Must be island fever.   Dogs always seem to survive wherever they are.  Maybe not in the polar regions unless they were huskys.    Despite being lush, it's very rainy all the time.  And there's NOTHING much to do - been diving/been snorkelling and walked about in the rainforest (bit dangerous that, very rocky underfoot and never got to the swimming pools at the waterfalls).   But the Internet works really well here considering the isolation - yay for undersea cables.  I've been here too long as I've started to recognise random people in the street and begging guy at the supermarket car park I give my spare change too knows who I am too now.  We're now on speaking terms (well I am as he's mute, looks like he had a stroke or something).

I heard about the snow.  Means organising properly to have Europe winter clothing upon arrival back there.  Might mess up my transit along with the virus and Brexit.  At least no Chinese dominated queues at passports I suppose now.

It was interesting to hear about the dogs.
I tend to run away with an idea myself.
I think many preppers in the US may actually be glad they may get to use their gear, sick really.
I think something else is behind all of this panic, another way to take away our rights as humans.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

It was interesting to hear about the dogs.
I tend to run away with an idea myself.
I think many preppers in the US may actually be glad they may get to use their gear, sick really.
I think something else is behind all of this panic, another way to take away our rights as humans.

I think the dog thing is indeed a run away idea (that's a good way to put it but could be a bit of "just right" OCD) but it's funny what crosses people's minds. I think if people spoke up more about these fleeting thoughts then maybe there would be more innovation and I would hope more fun.   

The scope of this dog business is widening in my mind.  I'm now on an idea this was like the Galapagos Islands.  There's a radio show on LBC (London Broadcasting Company) on Thursdays at about 12 lunchtime HU time which has a slot called Mystery Hour (during the James O'Brien slot) where you can get your questions answered, sometimes in a frivolously fun yet underlying serious way.  I'm considering asking a question which I will try and formulate.  I guess what I'm thinking is how long would it take for an isolated species to evolve into another species.  Same lines as the recent Red Panda news.

Where I am at the moment way over on the other side of the planet  there's not really anything going on regarding the virus. People are wandering around as normal with the vast majority not wearing masks.  I looked at the CDC reports and there are risks (and I've got some of them!) but I'm not particularly concerned.  You have to be in a weakened condition to really suffer or die.   

The current reactions are politically driven in the USA - being seen to not being something is worse than being seen to do something.   I wonder if Donald "We've got it under control" Trump's semi-dismissal of coronavirus fears will hit him in the election. Maybe this is the end of the guy finally, Bernie is up and even Biden is coming back.

As for the preppers, I cannot see how being armed with an AK47 and loaded with rusty cans of food in the garage is going to save anyone.  Maybe people will remember the movie Testament which impressed me when I saw it.  The subject of that movie is nuclear war but the virus could be almost the same - it can be blown anywhere.   People seem to have it regardless of where they've been or travelled now.  Looks like it's here to stay.

Read the first American has died from Corona.
I am more afraid of people running around in panic mode then dying.
Of course no one really wants to leave any time soon.
I believe this will just go away but we all will be stuck with new rules and new laws.
More and more freedoms are going down the tube and no one is really speaking much on that.
Hope you can go home safe without having to get sprayed down like a bug.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

Read the first American has died from Corona.
I am more afraid of people running around in panic mode then dying.
Of course no one really wants to leave any time soon.
I believe this will just go away but we all will be stuck with new rules and new laws.
More and more freedoms are going down the tube and no one is really speaking much on that.
Hope you can go home safe without having to get sprayed down like a bug.

Yes, saw and heard that.  I saw that was in WA and it's now in a state of emergency.  But all those sick folks were sick in the care home anyway so more than likely closer to the front of the queue in their God's waiting room.  The virus gave them a bit of a push.  How that person got it, who knows!

It's gonna be everywhere and no-one can stop it - not even a "big beautiful wall".

The one to fear is DT - a crisis is distractingly helpful when he's potentially losing ground.  If he can push for changes, then maybe he'll say he's the only one who can deal with this and he should be President for Billion years to quote the ex-President of Gambia or to use his full title:His Excellency Sheikh Professor Alhaji Dr. Yahya Abdul-Aziz Awal Jemus Junkung Jammeh Naasiru Deen Babili Mansa.  Imagine announcing that every few minutes.  How'd that billion years work out for you Jammeh?

I've been temperature monitored already since I arrived here - at the airport and even entering hotels.  Most people are ignoring it.  Never mind, leaving here soon for another virus infested tourist noodle hot spot.

In power for a billion years... Some one defo has a God complex!!
All these leaders are in on the game, they are using this virus to bring in new laws and enforce power over everyone.
I try not to read too much news, just depressing to do so . Didn't know the person who died was elderly and in a care home. The virus probably did them a favor if anything.
State of emergency means they can have a curfew and perhaps force you to take a vax.
I don't wish to paint the Devil on the wall as they say in Hungary but sooner or later some nutter is going to go all comando start shooting gov. agents or anyone who trespasses their property, going to happen in the US first , sad to say.Of course I pray I am wrong.
My bro lives in a home in SC with his guns dogs and land that has tons of shrubs around it, not sure what he has as a surprise inside his shrubs. He is mostly sane but I know some people who are not that stable who have more guns then a gun show.
Shooting an AK 47 and a M-16 was really fun but directing them towards anything alive is another story.
One reason we sold our 9MM semi-auto handgun years ago, neither of us would want to even consider directing anything like that towards a living thing.
Self defense is another matter, one I hate to think about.

I remember in school fights hitting my opponent  as hard as I could and at the same time feeling horrible about it and hoping it didn't hurt them much.
How are we even discussing guns, from love-ins to shoot outs what has the world gone to?
In Japan the school kids have been pulled out of school for the next month. Now that may cause issues and panic, who is going to sit children of working parents? Easy answer a day care center where then is the logic in gathering them together in camp and not in school?

My son wrote today from Japan. They went shopping, all TP has been sold out in his local store... So the games begin!

I told him to save newspapers.... Might be time to go  old school when you have to go!