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SimCityAT
While I'm having a moan, it's great having all these emojis to choose from, but it could really do with having some kind of search function built into it.
- @Cynic
I was thinking about that when they first installed it, when things calm down I will ask. Dont want to upset them just yet.
fluffy2560
Oh dear...


Cynic
Oh dear...


- @fluffy2560

You can almost guarantee that Putin had already shared out the north and west of Ukraine before all this started.
fluffy2560
Oh dear...


- @fluffy2560

You can almost guarantee that Putin had already shared out the north and west of Ukraine before all this started.
- @Cynic

Tend to think you are right.   This is just deja-vu to the historians.  Hungary was given Transcarpathia by the Germans in 1938 and they followed it up with years of minority repression. 

This is the kind of rhetoric that PU uses and OV emulates.

I cannot imagine it's going down well anywhere amongst the neighbours.   

If I was a betting person, if the Hungarian PM put everything on red, I'd put it all on black.  Something about these international things where Hungary always bets on the wrong colour/horse/cards etc.

Yet another Hungarian Mohacs moment.
SimCityAT
Oh well the misses started to cut the grass, I had strict instructions not to. Anyway, it did start to rain but before it did she managed to cut a bit, but it kept on cutting out. I will have to have a look at it when she is at work so I don't get shouted at.
fluffy2560
Oh well the misses started to cut the grass, I had strict instructions not to. Anyway, it did start to rain but before it did she managed to cut a bit, but it kept on cutting out. I will have to have a look at it when she is at work so I don't get shouted at.
- @SimCityAT

Save yourself.  No point in overdoing it.   Must be frustrating if you have that level of injury. I just moved some plant pots with the help of one of my kids.  At least it was some help, not much but some. Saved my back a little bit.
Marilyn Tassy
Oh well the misses started to cut the grass, I had strict instructions not to. Anyway, it did start to rain but before it did she managed to cut a bit, but it kept on cutting out. I will have to have a look at it when she is at work so I don't get shouted at.
- @SimCityAT

Of course your wife is worried that you will injure your back and wants you  to heal up fast.

The grass won't stop growing  so no fear that it won't be there when you're better.

Just saw an article about Neveda where we lived for many years. They are tearing up all the grass and putting in desert plants and rocks. on pulbic roadways..Sounds so ugly.

Water shortages. I'm still waiting for sea water to be turned into fresh water...There was talk of that over 50 years ago.

Yesterday as we drove out from the underground parking at Arena Plaza we saw the aftermath of a moped vs a taxi.

The modepd driver got the worst of it, his Panda Express food box was in the road..

Guess lunch was cancelled for some people...

I usually am a bit  grumpy with how these food delivery people and cab drivers run ramshot on the rads or even on the walkways but I felt bad for them both. On our way to the mall a taxi almost pulled into us to pass a bus that was too slow for him. Chasing after the moeny makes people so rushed that they have lst their minds.

The moped driver was being worked on in the road and the police closed down a lane to traffic.His moped was a mangled mess. I noticed he was conscience and they were working on his leg.

Guess he was off to the emergency hospital in the 8th, Hope he likes stale bread and cold weak tea...That's about the basic items served there when I was in.

I really dislike seeing accidents and knowing someone's day was ruined because someone was in a rush and careless.






















fluffy2560

Water shortages. I'm still waiting for sea water to be turned into fresh water...There was talk of that over 50 years ago.

Yesterday as we drove out from the underground parking at Arena Plaza we saw the aftermath of a moped vs a taxi.

The modepd driver got the worst of it, his Panda Express food box was in the road..

Guess lunch was cancelled for some people...
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Guess he was off to the emergency hospital in the 8th, Hope he likes stale bread and cold weak tea...That's about the basic items served there when I was in.

I really dislike seeing accidents and knowing someone's day was ruined because someone was in a rush and careless.

- @Marilyn Tassy

They've been making drinking water from seawater for many years.  I think UAE and Australia rely on it.  The key element is cheap electricity to run that process.   UAE will be burning gas/oil for that. Maybe Australia uses wind or solar, no idea.  But of course, the entire thing produces loads of salt and minerals. If they can process that, then fine, but there's some of it they dump back in the sea which is of course increasing the salinity locally!      Deforestation or machine based agriculture is going to make things worse - remember the dust bowls of the 1930s?   Hereabouts, one has to wonder about the Duna and the aquifers in the Buda hills.  20+ years ago they were saying they were becoming depleted but not heard about it for a while so perhaps the issue is averted.   Water is going to become the new gold.

We also have loads of accidents around here.  People keep getting run over by cars and buses.  Only maybe a month ago someone was killed by a  car and yesterday Mrs F reported another RTA (Road Traffic Accident) in the industrial zone/area.   And I also saw blocked roads and police cars from yet another one in our main street.    It's becoming an accident hotspot - people drive too fast and are not paying attention.  Distracted by phones and Facebook.    I have to insistently tell our daughter to watch herself crossing the roads and to take out her earphones so she can hear the traffic.   We know of one person who died in a pointless accident because her headphones were on loud and she couldn't hear the traffic approaching.  People also don't use the crossing points and for some reason always wear black clothing at night!

We have the occasional serious crime here as well - some looney set fire to a multi-occupancy house/apartment building and nearly killed a bunch of people who were living there.  The guy was caught immediately and said it was a dispute with the owner who lives overseas.    The victims  of the fire were left homeless.  All their stuff was destroyed.
Marilyn Tassy
Sad to hear that the rush/rush insanity has followed me/us to Hungary.

Setting fires should be a hanging offence.

Yes, those earphones are dangerous,people even drive with them on!

I must be getting old because last time I drove in Vegas I had to turn off the radio so I could see better! Just kidding but yes, how can you hear an ambulance or police car if you're tuned out to the world while driving?

Yes, I think in Dubai they turn salt water into fresh.

Not in Las Vegas, they just take it from the Colorado river or lake mead.

The water levels at lake Mead are so low.

No fear of Hoover Dam overflowing any time soon.

I get sick to my stomach when I see a motorbike vs car accident.

We saw one once in LA up in the mountains.

Some bikers came around a corner really fast on a turn and went into the lane of an oncoming car.

The car tried to stop and swirve over but they also were in a turn on a narrow mountain road.The biker was only slightly clipped but no matter.

The bikers leg was all mangled in the spokes of his bike, I couldn't really look. We stopped to help and waiting for the police and airflight to arrive.

Heard the guy lost his leg.

Also had a freind die about a year after getting bumped from behind by a car while he was sitting at a red light.

He didn't have a helmet on and hit his head on the concret road divider. Had a plate put in his head, had brain damage and got really depressed over it.

He got married and his baby was just an infant when he shot himself in the head.

The autopsy relevled he had a tumor groing under the metal plate in his head.

Such a waste, he was only 21.

We had a HU guy and his friend visit us in Ca from HU. One of the men was married and had a 13 year old son in Hungary.

Funny side fact, the guy and his wife were both scientists, she was on a contract to work for Mummar Gaddafi in Libya.  Small world...Well this guy here in Hungary had his son on the back of his motorbike. They slipped on some oil in the road and slid into a metal road barrier. The boys arm was sliced off.

My husband came to HU right after this accident and brought the boy a hand held video game to keep him busy in hospital.Looking back on it, it wasn't a god gift at all for a one armed boy. A Gameboy which was the latest thing at the time.My husband said it was so hard to see the child. They had sewn his arm back t his stmach in hope he would keep the arm alive so later they could reattach it.God, por thing. It didnt take however...BTW his mother begged to be released frm her contact to be with her boy but dang Gaddafi wouldn't let her go early.

I think perhaps those drivers yesterday just both let their guard down and the result was not good. Could of been much worst though. It usually takes having a close call or accident to teach people to drive defensive.

I know my husband is a safe driver after being a prfessioanl driver for so many years. He often gives the right away to another car when he should be getting the right of way. Some peple are just so pushy and drive to fast to take a chance on them following the traffic rules. The safest way to drive is to act as if the other car doesn't know what they are doing and you can never trust them. When crssing the st. on foot, always check twice before stepping off the curb, and as the Stones said in ," Something happned to me Yesterday" when on your bike,wear white!
fluffy2560
Sad to hear that the rush/rush insanity has followed me/us to Hungary.

Setting fires should be a hanging offence.

Yes, those earphones are dangerous,people even drive with them on!

I must be getting old because last time I drove in Vegas I had to turn off the radio so I could see better! Just kidding but yes, how can you hear an ambulance or police car if you're tuned out to the world while driving?

Yes, I think in Dubai they turn salt water into fresh.

Not in Las Vegas, they just take it from the Colorado river or lake mead.

The water levels at lake Mead are so low.

No fear of Hoover Dam overflowing any time soon.

I get sick to my stomach when I see a motorbike vs car accident.

We saw one once in LA up in the mountains.

Some bikers came around a corner really fast on a turn and went into the lane of an oncoming car.

The car tried to stop and swirve over but they also were in a turn on a narrow mountain road.The biker was only slightly clipped but no matter.

The bikers leg was all mangled in the spokes of his bike, I couldn't really look. We stopped to help and waiting for the police and airflight to arrive.

Heard the guy lost his leg.

Also had a freind die about a year after getting bumped from behind by a car while he was sitting at a red light.

He didn't have a helmet on and hit his head on the concret road divider. Had a plate put in his head, had brain damage and got really depressed over it.

He got married and his baby was just an infant when he shot himself in the head.

The autopsy relevled he had a tumor groing under the metal plate in his head.

Such a waste, he was only 21.

We had a HU guy and his friend visit us in Ca from HU. One of the men was married and had a 13 year old son in Hungary.

Funny side fact, the guy and his wife were both scientists, she was on a contract to work for Mummar Gaddafi in Libya.  Small world...Well this guy here in Hungary had his son on the back of his motorbike. They slipped on some oil in the road and slid into a metal road barrier. The boys arm was sliced off.

My husband came to HU right after this accident and brought the boy a hand held video game to keep him busy in hospital.Looking back on it, it wasn't a god gift at all for a one armed boy. A Gameboy which was the latest thing at the time.My husband said it was so hard to see the child. They had sewn his arm back t his stmach in hope he would keep the arm alive so later they could reattach it.God, por thing. It didnt take however...BTW his mother begged to be released frm her contact to be with her boy but dang Gaddafi wouldn't let her go early.

I think perhaps those drivers yesterday just both let their guard down and the result was not good. Could of been much worst though. It usually takes having a close call or accident to teach people to drive defensive.

I know my husband is a safe driver after being a professional driver for so many years. He often gives the right away to another car when he should be getting the right of way. Some people are just so pushy and drive to fast to take a chance on them following the traffic rules. The safest way to drive is to act as if the other car doesn't know what they are doing and you can never trust them. When crossing the st. on foot, always check twice before stepping off the curb, and as the Stones said in ," Something happned to me Yesterday" when on your bike,wear white!
- @Marilyn Tassy

Colorado river is going to be sucked dry at the rate it's going.   Lake Mead will be a puddle with no electricity.   I've flown over it on the way to the Grand Canyon from LV.  It was impressive back then.   

People who crash motorbikes usually get their legs crushed and mangled as the bike falls on top of them.   Really is important to have good leathers on if impacting the ground.    When I fell off my bike, I realised how vulnerable I was.   Too fast, too wet and too much of an over-estimate of my own skills.  I bashed my head on the kerb but I had a helmet on.  I was able to get back on and ride away but my bike was a bit bent and I was just  a bit shaken.   The bike wasn't the same then after it was damaged.  Eventually it had to go as I had a GF and she needed to be transported in a  car.

Your hubby's advice is very sound.  I always assume everyone around is a idiot in training and highly dangerous.  And of course, some of them are!  Nothing quite like being thought of as an idiot and then driving and proving it.


Marilyn Tassy
Around 1968 my step-father rode a Harley.

My mother was 12 years his senior and tried her hardest to keep up with him .

They wore matching leather biker jackets with fringe.

They took a ride on a Sat. morning without their helmets on.

They stopped for a coffee and my mother had a strange feeling and asked my step-father to put his helmet on, she put hers on too.  ( Her native 6th sense?)

Less then 2 mins. later sme idiot took a turn in front of them, they slammed into the side of the car.Step-dad landed on his shoulder and nose, 500 lbs Harley on tp oof him and mom on top like the cherry . Oh, they both flew over the car first.

My dad dislocated and broke his shoulder and nose.

Mom was just black and blue all over.

They sold the bike to my step-fathers cousin , he made a chopper out of it until he too smashed the bike to bits.

My step-father had 3 bikes, the Harley, a Honda and  Jawa. He sold all 3 of them once he got out of the hospital.

Mom also realized she was then the mother of 5 and she shouldn't be playing around on motorbikes.

It's too bad, it was rather fun ridding up the canyone road on the back of that Harley, passed right by the Manson Family Ranch on the canyone road.

My  one brother still drivers a Harley and his wife just bought herself a 3 wheeled bike.
fluffy2560

Less then 2 mins. later sme idiot took a turn in front of them, they slammed into the side of the car.Step-dad landed on his shoulder and nose, 500 lbs Harley on tp oof him and mom on top like the cherry . Oh, they both flew over the car first.

..- @Marilyn Tassy

Man vs metal. 

It's a certainty who is going to come off worse.

When the bike is on top of you, it's almost impossible to get out from under it as they weigh so much.   If the bike even just topples over, it's really difficult to get it back upright on your own.  Remarkable though how much one can balance.
Marilyn Tassy

Less then 2 mins. later sme idiot took a turn in front of them, they slammed into the side of the car.Step-dad landed on his shoulder and nose, 500 lbs Harley on tp oof him and mom on top like the cherry . Oh, they both flew over the car first.

..- @Marilyn Tassy

Man vs metal. 

It's a certainty who is going to come off worse.

When the bike is on top of you, it's almost impossible to get out from under it as they weigh so much.   If the bike even just topples over, it's really difficult to get it back upright on your own.  Remarkable though how much one can balance.
- @fluffy2560

Yes, my parents had the right of way, they guy turned left in front of them.

My mother came to her senses and tried lifting the Harley off of my step-father by herself.

I swear no one came to help her.

Fianlly some man came to their resuce and  the two of them got the bike off of my step-father.

Then the jerk asked my mom for $5.

They took it across the st. to a gas station to hle it while the ambulance was on it's way.

Another rental charge to mom!



Can't make this stuff up, humanity sucks at times. Real ambulance chasers!


fluffy2560
Yes, my parents had the right of way, they guy turned left in front of them.

My mother came to her senses and tried lifting the Harley off of my step-father by herself.

I swear no one came to help her.

Fianlly some man came to their resuce and  the two of them got the bike off of my step-father.

Then the jerk asked my mom for $5.

They took it across the st. to a gas station to hle it while the ambulance was on it's way.

Another rental charge to mom!

Can't make this stuff up, humanity sucks at times. Real ambulance chasers!


- @Marilyn Tassy

That's mad asking for money.   Not just unethical but legally as well.

Not sure about the USA but other countries have a "Good Samaritan" law which means you have to help if you see someone in distress.

Some interesting legal arguments around that - for example, if a doctor assists someone on a plane by delivering a baby, then they cannot charge for their services or be negligent.   

Mrs F and I  were once a witnesses to a very severe road crash in a relatively isolated area of highway.   It was beyond simple first aid.  The passengers were visibly injured.  There was no way I was going to attempt my very basic medical aid on those persons so my unexpected role was to call for help which came pretty quickly (seemed like within 10 minutes but could have been longer) including an army of rescuers - rescue helicopter, multiple fire and rescue vehicles and traffic cops.  I certainly wasn't going to drag the persons out of the car, I could have made it worse if they'd had spinal injuries.   

So it might have been really bad for the guy asking for $5 - he was being paid for his services and could have been liable if something had gone wrong.   

Worst thing about calling for help is not knowing exactly where you are.  Back then, no cell phones with location data and no landmarks visible as we were in a cutting (i.e. lower than the surrounding land and only grassy embankments). 

These days, it'd be a lot easier.  In the UK and other places, they use a system called What3Words which can locate anyone on the earths surface within 1m.   It's a great idea and free too. 
Marilyn Tassy
When we saw the mangled mess with that guys leg with that morotbike accident, we knew there wasn't much anyone could do but get help.

His friends went off down the mountain to call for aid.

The medivac  had to collect him.It was a very long hour or so.This was in 1974 or there about's.

My husband stayed with him and told him help was on it's way and took off his beautiful custom made brown leather jacket and put it under the guys head.

Tried to keep him from moving about too much and freaking out. I couldn't get close, I had a hard time looking at his leg.

From my safe distance I told the guy help was cming in English, my husband's English wasn't too great and the 3 other in the car with us were newbie Hungarians too. I probably shuld f spoken more to the guy but I didn't want to faint either.



We never saw that jacket again... forgot it with all that horror going on.

In 1964 my 14 and 16 year old sisters were on the road to Las Vegas to see the Beatles in concert.

Their UK friend and her father all crammed into his MG fr the 500 miles ride .

Plan was for my parents to drive them to Vegas but last min. my step-father had to work.

No cell phones then, long stretches of empty deserts highway between small towns.

They came upon the aftermath of a huge car crash.

Their friends father had the girls get out of the car so he could speed off to get help.

The girls stayed behind also to help the injured.

My 14 year old sister spend a couple of hours holding  a women's writst to her arm where it was cming off.

She kept talking to the lady to keep her calm ect.

The ambulance drivers told my sister she prbably saved the women's hand but keep the blood flow going so lone and keeping her from running about.

Her Girl Scount training came in handy for once.

The concert was extra special for them too knowing they made the right choice to travel that far from home for the cncert. Not only did they get better seats then in Ca. but they helped people in need.
fluffy2560
When we saw the mangled mess with that guys leg with that morotbike accident, we knew there wasn't much anyone could do but get help.

His friends went off down the mountain to call for aid.

The medivac  had to collect him.It was a very long hour or so.This was in 1974 or there about's.

My husband stayed with him and told him help was on it's way and took off his beautiful custom made brown leather jacket and put it under the guys head.

Tried to keep him from moving about too much and freaking out. I couldn't get close, I had a hard time looking at his leg.

From my safe distance I told the guy help was coming in English, my husband's English wasn't too great and the 3 other in the car with us were newbie Hungarians too. I probably shuld f spoken more to the guy but I didn't want to faint either.

We never saw that jacket again... forgot it with all that horror going on.

In 1964 my 14 and 16 year old sisters were on the road to Las Vegas to see the Beatles in concert.

Their UK friend and her father all crammed into his MG fr the 500 miles ride .

Plan was for my parents to drive them to Vegas but last min. my step-father had to work.

No cell phones then, long stretches of empty deserts highway between small towns.

They came upon the aftermath of a huge car crash.

Their friends father had the girls get out of the car so he could speed off to get help.

The girls stayed behind also to help the injured.

My 14 year old sister spend a couple of hours holding  a women's writst to her arm where it was cming off.

She kept talking to the lady to keep her calm ect.

The ambulance drivers told my sister she probably saved the women's hand but keep the blood flow going so lone and keeping her from running about.

Her Girl Scout training came in handy for once.

The concert was extra special for them too knowing they made the right choice to travel that far from home for the concert. Not only did they get better seats then in Ca. but they helped people in need.
- @Marilyn Tassy

That's quite a set of horrible car/bike smashes.   Our daughter will have to pass a first aid test I think to get her driving license soon.  She's one of those ones who faints when she sees blood or even imagines it.  Not good. 

One of the other kids on the other hand, was keen on first aid and went on courses and even was junior ambulance crew at several football matches. Fizzled out on it when it came to deciding if she should study medicine at Uni.

We were talking about Lake Mead - apparently the dropping water levels are revealing more than just rocks - Lake Mead: Shrinking reservoir reveals more human remains
Marilyn Tassy
Yes, the Vegas Mob was rather busy  and probably still is.

I heard tales while in dealing school in both New Mexico and then in Las Vegas.

My poker instructor was a rough gambling ex-craps dealer from Vegas.

How he ever opened up a gaming school in New Mexicoo with a proper English Lady who had worked in private gamming houses in London wearing evening gowns and high heels I'll never know. Two polar opposites!

He would swear all the time at his students who were learning craps... Kept me away from learning that game. Crazy enough when I took his poker class. I still laugh when I think of his expression for having 3 Queens in ones hand... Trip Wh**** he would say!

When I got my first dealing job in Las Vegas, I called my UK teacher in NM to thank her for teaching me and to let her know I was hired. She told me her partner had gone to New Jersey to gamble and someone shot him to death...

He tld of when he was a craps dealer in downtwn Vegas in the 60'-70's how dealers could drink on the job on their breaks. One break per ever 40 mins to one hour.

One of his co-workers got so drunk on his breaks that he walked into another casino and started dealing craps!

My friend, Mona was one of the first female dealers in Vegas. All the men she worked with had a bug up their bum about female dealers and everyone made their jobs harder then they should of been.

She made a mistake once on blackjack and was called int the back room to answer for it.

Her boss just punched her in the stomach so hard that she passed out!

I asked her what she did after that, when she woke up.

She said she just went back to her table and started working! If not she wuld of been fired.

Male dealers could throw punches at their bosses, swear and them and if they quit they could just walk into another casino and get hired on the spot, not so easy for the female workers.

Yes, some poor souls got a ride out to the desert or a barrel ride in Hoover Dam. Those gamming markers add up quick if you're on a lossing streak.

I started in 1998 and by then it was almost totally corp. run and n one was hitting anone or getting rides out to the desert as far as I know. Instead they would give us nicknames or make the Loser sign on their foreheads if you gave any to much of the casinos money.  If you lost too much they would put you on a slow game for days... My nickname was, "Sassy Tassy" but the players called me "The Terminator" so corney but also so Vegas. Players would tell each other tht I looked like a nice lady but they ahd better watch their bets. To this day I honestly d not know how a dealer can cheat on a game. I never would risk doing that even if I knew how.

My confidence wasn't too high when I first started dealing. My instructors recommened me to a mid range casino where one actually made tips. I thought I should try a lower level place for some experience. I got hired at a casino not far from Hover Dam area. Only worked there 3 days before I knew I was too,"Sassy" or classy  ( or trashy) to be there. The bosses were insane. One floorman must of worked for the mob at one time. He was so mean and crass. One poor old fool came in evey evening to play and always lost.Well on my 3 night wrking there he started winning. This boss was freaking out about him winning.

Maybe I shouldn't say the old mobsters were mean. In fact my friend, Mona said they were rough but fair too. If a employees child or family was ill, they would pay the medical bills for them if they couldn't do it themselves. She also said the dealers all were making fantastic money. In the 1970's it was common to make over $300 per day just in tips, wages were another source of income.  Of course no one would deal just for wages, without tips there would be no Vegas.They also were not reported for taxes, dealers made their own tips from their own tables. She said everyone owned a house with a swimming pool and bought new cars every couple of years. No wonder she took that gut punch like a boxer. When I started working and it was getting corp. we gt cash every day in tips but later it was all just added to our normal pay check with taxes taken out...After 9/11 most tips were cut in half, the town got so slow.It had become just another job and the glam was gone.

He kept changing dealers ever 10 mins in hopes that a new shuffle wuld make this man lose. N, he kept on winning, this boss made us all stand in a circle while he chewed us up. He said, "None of you SH*** know how to shuffle. He then grabed the deck from a dealer and dealt the game himself. Karma, the old man still won! Lady Luck was with him! I never went back there after being called a Sh** but some low life mobster wanna be. Got hired right away at a better casino and overall enjoyed working there.In fact I worked there a full 18months! Longest time I ever worked anywhere, I loved getting hired but loved quitting even more!

My son said on roulette that after some experience he knew when to spin the ball within a few numbers, if someone was bothering him he made sure they didn't stick around for long.

My boy ater took a possision as boss for wages  only without tips but by then Vegas was going down with tips.

He never punched anyone in the stomach either.In fact those under him liked him very much.
fluffy2560
Yes, the Vegas Mob was rather busy  and probably still is.

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My friend, Mona was one of the first female dealers in Vegas. All the men she worked with had a bug up their bum about female dealers and everyone made their jobs harder then they should of been.

She made a mistake once on blackjack and was called int the back room to answer for it.

Her boss just punched her in the stomach so hard that she passed out!

I asked her what she did after that, when she woke up.

She said she just went back to her table and started working! If not she would of been fired.

Male dealers could throw punches at their bosses, swear and them and if they quit they could just walk into another casino and get hired on the spot, not so easy for the female workers.

Yes, some poor souls got a ride out to the desert or a barrel ride in Hoover Dam. Those gamming markers add up quick if you're on a lossing streak.

....

My boy later took a position as boss for wages  only without tips but by then Vegas was going down with tips.

He never punched anyone in the stomach either.In fact those under him liked him very much.
- @Marilyn Tassy

What a terrible environment to work in!   

But that's the kind of  idea I had of LV - formed from TV/movies etc. 

The  reality was when we got there that it was all a bit seedy behind the scenes and very superficial otherwise. 

And of course always in my mind there was an undercurrent of hard core criminals or mafia elements roughing people up or taking a selected few on a one way trip out to the desert or Lake Mead.    Not that the ordinary folk would see any of that.

Gambling has always seemed to be linked into other dodgy things - it's hard to say as I'm not moving in any of those circles.   

Horse racing is for the rich and "posh" in my own country.  Bit of a closed world, the average person never gets involved in.   Queen likes it but even she hob-nobs at the races with alleged dodgy characters like the ruler of Dubai.

Casinos, seems exotic and posh from movies but I couldn't think of a worse thing to do with your hard earned money. 

On the other hand, ordinary people do the lottery here and elsewhere.

If you had money in LV, you could be alright but otherwise, meh, be nicer to live out in the countryside or at least where it was less dusty.   Wouldn't want to live there but it was OK to visit once to see what the hype was.



Cynic
Yes, the Vegas Mob was rather busy  and probably still is.

....

My friend, Mona was one of the first female dealers in Vegas. All the men she worked with had a bug up their bum about female dealers and everyone made their jobs harder then they should of been.

She made a mistake once on blackjack and was called int the back room to answer for it.

Her boss just punched her in the stomach so hard that she passed out!

I asked her what she did after that, when she woke up.

She said she just went back to her table and started working! If not she would of been fired.

Male dealers could throw punches at their bosses, swear and them and if they quit they could just walk into another casino and get hired on the spot, not so easy for the female workers.

Yes, some poor souls got a ride out to the desert or a barrel ride in Hoover Dam. Those gamming markers add up quick if you're on a lossing streak.

....

My boy later took a position as boss for wages  only without tips but by then Vegas was going down with tips.

He never punched anyone in the stomach either.In fact those under him liked him very much.
- @Marilyn Tassy

What a terrible environment to work in!   

But that's the kind of  idea I had of LV - formed from TV/movies etc. 

The  reality was when we got there that it was all a bit seedy behind the scenes and very superficial otherwise. 

And of course always in my mind there was an undercurrent of hard core criminals or mafia elements roughing people up or taking a selected few on a one way trip out to the desert or Lake Mead.    Not that the ordinary folk would see any of that.

Gambling has always seemed to be linked into other dodgy things - it's hard to say as I'm not moving in any of those circles.   

Horse racing is for the rich and "posh" in my own country.  Bit of a closed world, the average person never gets involved in.   Queen likes it but even she hob-nobs at the races with alleged dodgy characters like the ruler of Dubai.

Casinos, seems exotic and posh from movies but I couldn't think of a worse thing to do with your hard earned money. 

On the other hand, ordinary people do the lottery here and elsewhere.

If you had money in LV, you could be alright but otherwise, meh, be nicer to live out in the countryside or at least where it was less dusty.   Wouldn't want to live there but it was OK to visit once to see what the hype was.



- @fluffy2560

I went to LV once with the Military; we stayed in a trailer park!
fluffy2560
I went to LV once with the Military; we stayed in a trailer park!
- @Cynic

Trailer trash?!

We stayed in a motel somewhere off the strip and I complained about the  uncleaned edges of the room.  I was met with blank faces. Obviously cleaning was not high on their priorities as presumably most guests spent their time out of the room and down at the casinos. Possibly drunk when they returned back.   LV was OK in some ways but overall I couldn't wait to get out of there.  Like LA, what a dump.

I believe the air force base near LV is where the UK drones are controlled from.
Marilyn Tassy
Yes, the Vegas Mob was rather busy  and probably still is.

....

My friend, Mona was one of the first female dealers in Vegas. All the men she worked with had a bug up their bum about female dealers and everyone made their jobs harder then they should of been.

She made a mistake once on blackjack and was called int the back room to answer for it.

Her boss just punched her in the stomach so hard that she passed out!

I asked her what she did after that, when she woke up.

She said she just went back to her table and started working! If not she would of been fired.

Male dealers could throw punches at their bosses, swear and them and if they quit they could just walk into another casino and get hired on the spot, not so easy for the female workers.

Yes, some poor souls got a ride out to the desert or a barrel ride in Hoover Dam. Those gamming markers add up quick if you're on a lossing streak.

....

My boy later took a position as boss for wages  only without tips but by then Vegas was going down with tips.

He never punched anyone in the stomach either.In fact those under him liked him very much.
- @Marilyn Tassy

What a terrible environment to work in!   

But that's the kind of  idea I had of LV - formed from TV/movies etc. 

The  reality was when we got there that it was all a bit seedy behind the scenes and very superficial otherwise. 

And of course always in my mind there was an undercurrent of hard core criminals or mafia elements roughing people up or taking a selected few on a one way trip out to the desert or Lake Mead.    Not that the ordinary folk would see any of that.

Gambling has always seemed to be linked into other dodgy things - it's hard to say as I'm not moving in any of those circles.   

Horse racing is for the rich and "posh" in my own country.  Bit of a closed world, the average person never gets involved in.   Queen likes it but even she hob-nobs at the races with alleged dodgy characters like the ruler of Dubai.

Casinos, seems exotic and posh from movies but I couldn't think of a worse thing to do with your hard earned money. 

On the other hand, ordinary people do the lottery here and elsewhere.

If you had money in LV, you could be alright but otherwise, meh, be nicer to live out in the countryside or at least where it was less dusty.   Wouldn't want to live there but it was OK to visit once to see what the hype was.



- @fluffy2560



I think my years of being a hairdresser before working in casinos taught me well.

I knew to pretend things were fine even when You just wished to punch a player in the face.Probably more gossip going on inside a casino then any hair salon full of ladies in rollers ever had. I minded my own business and only found out about the juicy gossip well after the fact. Some of it was really over the top. That witchy  female boss was something else, gossip was that she got pregnant from a young dealer. He was so freaked out that he left Vegas and ran to NYC. She had a thing for the young male dealers, if they were cute she would do all sorts of favors for them, if they weren't good looking she still would laugh and joke around with them. She looked so much like a carton charactor too, Black hair in a 1960's style flip with a business suit on that would put Joan Crawford to same. Thse shoulder pads!! 6 inch high heels because she was super short without them. Maybe she was so mean to all the female dealers because we didn't have to wear heels? She had a few female dealers quit on the spot on her, mean didn't even cover it. Smehow though she seemed to ,"put up" with me. Said some ,"I'll met you in the parking lot after work" things t me but also seemed to know when to shut it with me. Maybe the manger told her that he wanted me to stick around? They would hire people from all ages and body types, It good because palaers like to feel like someone like them is dealing , no threat. I have no idea where I fit in then, tall, thin and odd looking. with red hair...Not an everyday look arund Vegas.

Smile and take their money was the best revenge on any silly player.

Aside from that insane man who swore at his dealers ( no loyality there) and one mean witch of a bos at my long term casino most everyone was really nice with me.

I remember the hard bsses at the casino who when I told them there was a death in the family didn't count my no show that day against me and when I went back to work and told them it was my dog who passed never said a word about that and in fact put my on a very peaceful super mellow game for the next few days. Even that witch boss kept her distance.

I had an in with the manager, not sure how but he took a shinning to me.

Hard Italian mafia sort, that casino was one of the few at the time still privately owned.

They were fair to their dealers.

The other dealers would just freak out when this manager would sometimes come around our break area underground.

I would see him with a few other big shots coming down the hall towards us and he stopped tlalking to them to say hello to me alone??!  He asked how I liked it there ect.The other dealers would look at me and ask why he said hello to me. I still have no clue.

Maybe he had a secret crush on me.. No, I flatter myself.

I also was surprised as a new dealer, a break-in as we are called,he put me in the front area of the casino where those entering the casino would see me first.

Usually the new dealers were placed in the back area of the casino where things were more loose and easy going.

He even had a experienced dealer not deal for an enitre week just so she could stand next to me all day long and make sure i was doing things correctly.

I even got daily tips and my wages. They could of not given me tips that first week while training me but they did.

I felt very loyal to that casino  and would even volunteer on my days off if they were going to be very busy because of a convention in town.

At another casino they asked me if I wished to move up into management. No, not for me, I hate being a boss and having to show up for work all the time... Hate telling peple what to do, I reserve that only for my poor husband!

When I first started as a dealer my friend, Mona an danother man had a dealers agency. They also printed out a weekly newletter for dealers.

Just funny stries about town and on the back page they printed out the weekly tips at sme of the larger casinos.

Not uncommon for a large strip casino to have tips for dealers well over $1,200 on a Sat. night with an average of several hundred a day.

With that incentive of tips coming in almost anyone can put up with fools for 40 mins each hour with free fod and drinks during your breaks.

I met sme really nice peple in the casinos and most just saw it as a normal job.

A few had gambling issues but most had normal families at home and hobbies outside of gaming.








Cynic
I went to LV once with the Military; we stayed in a trailer park!
- @Cynic

Trailer trash?!

We stayed in a motel somewhere off the strip and I complained about the  uncleaned edges of the room.  I was met with blank faces. Obviously cleaning was not high on their priorities as presumably most guests spent their time out of the room and down at the casinos. Possibly drunk when they returned back.   LV was OK in some ways but overall I couldn't wait to get out of there.  Like LA, what a dump.

I believe the air force base near LV is where the UK drones are controlled from.
- @fluffy2560

It was a Red Flag exercise; you'll see from the number of countries participating and the fact it's held at Nellis AFB, so close by to LV that hotels are at a premium, allocation of which went by arm and rank. Hence, RAF officers got the hotels, the Army and the unwashed got what was left, generally in trailer parks or a motel if you were lucky.  Only went once to lend a hand turning around the aircraft (pan space was at a premium, so it was a case of offload, then fly off to the nearest strip with a space). It got out of hand and senior RAF officers ended up at the trailer park, so the RAF began controlling who could attend and outsourced the ground handling, so back to Fort Lewis I went.

There's a very interesting short film shot there by the RAF; it was a RAF Vulcan flying at 0 feet across the desert, inbound to it's IP when it got bounced by an F15 from the defending force; as the F15 overshot the Vulcan, from underneath it appeared a Buccaneer who proceeded to splash the F15.
Marilyn Tassy
Before they tore down the old Sahara Hotel/Casino my brother and his old GF stayed there.
I showed up to spend the day at the pool with them.

Never in my life have I seen anyone make a hotel room their own, just like at home...

He is off his rocks, he brought a couple of electirc gutairs with him but what killed me he is brought 2 huge amps with him to play in his room! I mean concert size speakers.

He used to be a roadie for some well known bands but as a solo act, no he wasn't in reality.

It really made me laugh.

As we went to a few other casin's he embarrased the heck otta me.

6'tall with long hair half way down his back, tats, all the silver rings and piercings on even had one of those low  rider/rocker chains hanging from his long shorts.

He was walking towards the doors with his GF and I as a security guard passed us in his dress suit.

My brothers shorts were pulled own by the weight of that chain and he was fully,"commando"! I never laughed so hard in my life. The guard thought the better of it a quickly looked away . My bro looked like far too much trouble and we were leaving ayways.

Inside the casino before the ,"floor show" he gave with his shorts, he had picked me up in one arm and started carrying me around like a doll.

I'm 14 years his senior  and usually look cool, calm and collected but dang I was yellping to be let down like an idiot.

We later walked to an ice cream shop and ordered cones. Some sort of really good fresh made ice cream. My bro was so wild looking and acting , he had a cig in one hand and his cone in the other. He dropped his cone on the ground and the attendant just grabbed another cone and  handed it him...

I doubt they would do that for many other peple but again, no trouble please.

I took my then 11 year old niece for a ice cream cone in Vegas when I was kid sitting her. The clerk fooled us by not telling us that the cone was extra, we should of gotten her scoop in a cup. Total for a cone with one scoop inside that casino was $11.00!!

I about had a heart attack over the price. Glad I didn't order one for myself.

I had some fun times in Vegas but never when gambling my nickles. My limit was always just $5. in nickles, a few free drinks with tipping and that made my day as far as being a high roller went.

When I was a dealer, I NEVER went into a casino on my days off.
fluffy2560

It was a Red Flag exercise; you'll see from the number of countries participating and the fact it's held at Nellis AFB, so close by to LV that hotels are at a premium, allocation of which went by arm and rank. Hence, RAF officers got the hotels, the Army and the unwashed got what was left, generally in trailer parks or a motel if you were lucky.  Only went once to lend a hand turning around the aircraft (pan space was at a premium, so it was a case of offload, then fly off to the nearest strip with a space). It got out of hand and senior RAF officers ended up at the trailer park, so the RAF began controlling who could attend and outsourced the ground handling, so back to Fort Lewis I went.

There's a very interesting short film shot there by the RAF; it was a RAF Vulcan flying at 0 feet across the desert, inbound to it's IP when it got bounced by an F15 from the defending force; as the F15 overshot the Vulcan, from underneath it appeared a Buccaneer who proceeded to splash the F15.
- @Cynic

Nellis AFB, that's the one!   It seems to feature in a lot of movies too.   But that's LV for you, Disney for adults.   It was fun to see it - once.

The Vulcans were fantastic aircraft.  You could feel the ground shake.  Buccaneer I never saw flying but I remember the Phantom.  That thing could turn on a sixpence and go vertical like a rocket.   Your stomach would turn over with the vibration and rumbling.   If it was dropping munitions on you, then it was definitely going to be shock and awe.   The other one I remember was the Saab Viggen - by the time you'd recognised it was coming your way, it was already on top of you - just so fast.  Outrageous bit of kit.

I heard a news report the UK military is supposedly going to be reduced to 70,000.   This is ridiculous.  Soon it won't have the ability to fight in any kind of conflict.  In these trying times, you'd think they'd be increasing its size or halting its reduction in capability.
Cynic

It was a Red Flag exercise; you'll see from the number of countries participating and the fact it's held at Nellis AFB, so close by to LV that hotels are at a premium, allocation of which went by arm and rank. Hence, RAF officers got the hotels, the Army and the unwashed got what was left, generally in trailer parks or a motel if you were lucky.  Only went once to lend a hand turning around the aircraft (pan space was at a premium, so it was a case of offload, then fly off to the nearest strip with a space). It got out of hand and senior RAF officers ended up at the trailer park, so the RAF began controlling who could attend and outsourced the ground handling, so back to Fort Lewis I went.

There's a very interesting short film shot there by the RAF; it was a RAF Vulcan flying at 0 feet across the desert, inbound to it's IP when it got bounced by an F15 from the defending force; as the F15 overshot the Vulcan, from underneath it appeared a Buccaneer who proceeded to splash the F15.
- @Cynic

Nellis AFB, that's the one!   It seems to feature in a lot of movies too.   But that's LV for you, Disney for adults.   It was fun to see it - once.

The Vulcans were fantastic aircraft.  You could feel the ground shake.  Buccaneer I never saw flying but I remember the Phantom.  That thing could turn on a sixpence and go vertical like a rocket.   Your stomach would turn over with the vibration and rumbling.   If it was dropping munitions on you, then it was definitely going to be shock and awe.   The other one I remember was the Saab Viggen - by the time you'd recognised it was coming your way, it was already on top of you - just so fast.  Outrageous bit of kit.

I heard a news report the UK military is supposedly going to be reduced to 70,000.   This is ridiculous.  Soon it won't have the ability to fight in any kind of conflict.  In these trying times, you'd think they'd be increasing its size or halting its reduction in capability.
- @fluffy2560

Headcount, it's all about headcount.  I recall a meeting I attended at a Government department a few years ago.  It was related to an idea being proposed by Industry to reduce some stupid regulatory interference that was meaningless.  The civil servant (department head level) we were talking to said that regardless of any perceived or factual benefit, if the proposal would in any way increase the Government headcount, we may as well leave now.  It has been this way since the 80's with Governments of all colours.  Incidentally, it's why the visa section of the Home Office is in turmoil and why the NHS got short of nurses and doctors, the overhead costs were simply too high, it's not just about salaries, they have the funding for that, it's the on-costs of the extra administrators needed (the HR people, Health & Safety staff (the current staff being already worked to the bone), more buildings for these people to work in, more car parking, the pensions and gratuities et al).

Buccaneer was originally a Navy carrier-based aircraft; I think it was the first to have a blown wing (basically blows hot air over the wing surface), which significantly increase the lift of the aircraft and its ability to fly very low while remaining stable.

There was a joke going around the Army while I was serving that the way this was going you could pretty soon fit the Army in Wembley Stadium, today the same joke is going around, but now it's the whole British Military.
fluffy2560

Headcount, it's all about headcount.  I recall a meeting I attended at a Government department a few years ago.  It was related to an idea being proposed by Industry to reduce some stupid regulatory interference that was meaningless.  The civil servant (department head level) we were talking to said that regardless of any perceived or factual benefit, if the proposal would in any way increase the Government headcount, we may as well leave now.  It has been this way since the 80's with Governments of all colours.  Incidentally, it's why the visa section of the Home Office is in turmoil and why the NHS got short of nurses and doctors, the overhead costs were simply too high, it's not just about salaries, they have the funding for that, it's the on-costs of the extra administrators needed (the HR people, Health & Safety staff (the current staff being already worked to the bone), more buildings for these people to work in, more car parking, the pensions and gratuities et al).

Buccaneer was originally a Navy carrier-based aircraft; I think it was the first to have a blown wing (basically blows hot air over the wing surface), which significantly increase the lift of the aircraft and its ability to fly very low while remaining stable.

There was a joke going around the Army while I was serving that the way this was going you could pretty soon fit the Army in Wembley Stadium, today the same joke is going around, but now it's the whole British Military.
- @Cynic
I know the Buccaneer but never saw one flying - Navy plane and I wasn't Navy.   Good looking plane.   The effect you mention is called the Coandă effect.   I  had never thought about it that much until I went to Romania and lo-and-behold, their main airport is called Henri Coandă International.   I checked him out and came to know the name of the discoverer of the phenomena.  He was quite the inventor.   

Headcounts - it's very common in government to have prescribed positions (not sure about the UK).  These are enshrined in Establishment Laws will say things like "the Ministry of  Banal Bureaucracy will be be lead by a Minister, have 4 deputies, 12 department heads, each of which will have the following staffing: 12 clerks, 3 accountants, 2 IT workers, 4 inspectors..." etc etc.     Because of those Establishment Laws, it's almost impossible to impose variations as it would need an act of parliament to change it.   Sometimes they are 30% understaffed deliberately because the budget is then freed up for temporary or contract hires which can then be used to gain flexibility in the workforce. In other words, it's almost akin to gaming the system.   It's fundamentally a design problem of the establishment law system.   UK might be different but I don't think so.     

Military - I've just read about Boris agreeing to mutual defence with Finland and Sweden and NATO membership on the cards.  How's that mutual defence to happen with UK capability being reduced? Maybe it's just a holding pattern until NATO becomes a reality there.    Putin and Co are throwing unspecified threats at Finland already - presumably because of the increased border length and of course direct contact with a (soon) NATO member.   So far it's looking like Russia is a paper tiger with no serious capability to wage war on a truly global scale (notwithstanding the terrible events in Ukraine).  But it's hopeless to have troops "working from home" or using drones if the enemy is physically at the gates.    Boots on the ground etc are needed eventually.   I reckon the UK military should be at least back to 120K personnel, possibly 150-180K by the end of next year if Putin and the threat is still there.

I spend quite a lot of time looking at potential outcomes of the internal Russian instability caused by Putin - he's now got more domestic issues - some Siberian separatists are blocking the railways there and he's reportedly replaced his Ukraine war go-to guy Gerasimov.  He's the general the Ukrainians missed killing a couple of weeks back.   

My latest thought is that Putin will conduct a very visible underground nuclear test to show he has capability.   It's his last card.

But will he survive long enough in position before being overthrown or healthwise?  Rumours abound about his health being not 100%, possibly cancer of some kind.   It's only a matter of time before the Klingon empire, sorry strike that, Russian Putin empire collapses.  I mention the Klingons because assassinating your superior is the way to gain advancement.  He's going to go out in a box or in chains.
fluffy2560
From here               

       Oh don't talk to me about fish sauce.

        Not quite the same but I was in Viet Nam for a month or so and that fish sauce is in everything there.   To me it tastes like metal.  I got sick of that endless metal taste and the bizarre lip smacking that goes on there - really strange behaviour.  Used to grind on me and by about 2 weeks of it I'd had enough.  It's enough to put anyone off.

        I only had one extended round of Hanoi but I wish I'd seen more of the rest of the country - fish sauce and lip smacking notwithstanding.
        - @fluffy2560


    I totally frgot how difficult it can be to have many different clutrues in the same house all living together.

    My Japanese DIL is sweet and shy and would never offend anyone on purpse but when she ate her soup she wuld drive my husband over the edge .

    I guess slurping in Japan is a thing.

    It got to the point where my husband would eat after my son and his wife were done eating. I always had to make up an excuse why he was late to sit down to dinner.

    Not that my husband has the greatest table manners in the world either!

    I ften tease him that I have to clean up after him like a 3 year old was sitting at the table.

    We always say it would be easier if we all just ate pills and did away with actual eating all together.

    Elbows on the table, chewing with your mouth open, waving your fork in the air while talking, putting more then 1/4th of a forkful in you mouth at a time getting up from the table with out asking to be excused  moving around or tapping your feet ect. where high crimes at my mother's table. TV off, no reading at the table, the list was far to long to dare a flashback attack. It's hard to keep up high standards . My older sister on top of all those house rules decided to do a Miss Manners type of etiquette curse. Had to relearn how t use a knife and frk, how to use a soup spoon properly, how far apart each glass should be placed on the table all the rules. To this day I've never eaten in a 5 star restaurant or had dinner with the Queen. I even dare to use paper towels and not fine linen...It's all so silly.


    - @Marilyn Tassy

OMG, yes the slurping, jeez, forgotten about that.    We find that so offensive but over there, it shows they are enjoying it.   Add in the lip smacking and you want to leave. And fast.  Absolute cringeworthy stuff. Culturally we're on different worlds.

I watch people eating in movies and you see them pushing food around, rarely take a bite,  but they change  camera angles and the eating person spits it out into a bucket.  A scene in a restaurant takes all day and so they'd be stuffed if they actually ate the stuff for real.

I've had a discussion about soup spoons here.  Apparently Hungarians don't have soup spoons. I find that rather odd.   Looks like all spoons are equal hereabouts.   They do have fish knives and butter knives.

I do agree that everyone should have etiquette lessons.  My mother told me how to eat on formal occasions and I've never forgotten those lessons.    I'm trying to hint to our  teenager to eat nicely but it's a wall of resistance.   How to fold up clothes nicely is another life skill we get push back on.   It's worthwhile trying to install good habits.  It's a good way to impress a potential partner.

My ex- used to leave the top off the toothpaste.  After a while it became symbolic of our relationship. All dried out!
SimCityAT

Hungary declares state of emergency due to war in Ukraine

Hungary's government has declared a state of emergency due to the war in Ukraine, which will take effect from tomorrow.
Prime Minister Viktor Orban made the announcement in a Facebook video, saying his cabinet needed to be able to respond to challenges quickly.
The change means he will be able to rule by decree.
Mr Orban, who was re-elected for a fourth consecutive term in April, has used the special legal order before - once because of migration and again during the coronavirus pandemic.
He has previously been accused of taking advantage of crises to further authoritarian ambitions and undermine the democratic importance of checks and balances.
fluffy2560

Hungary declares state of emergency due to war in Ukraine

Hungary's government has declared a state of emergency due to the war in Ukraine, which will take effect from tomorrow.
Prime Minister Viktor Orban made the announcement in a Facebook video, saying his cabinet needed to be able to respond to challenges quickly.
The change means he will be able to rule by decree.
Mr Orban, who was re-elected for a fourth consecutive term in April, has used the special legal order before - once because of migration and again during the coronavirus pandemic.
He has previously been accused of taking advantage of crises to further authoritarian ambitions and undermine the democratic importance of checks and balances.
- @SimCityAT
Not unexpected but it this current stage, quite unnecessary.   Unfortunately the last sentence is the one that  scares the bejesus out of us.      Maybe the EU will have something to say about it.  There are plenty of comments coming out of The Netherlands and others that Hungary should no longer be in the EU and they (or we) should leave the bloc.  Mrs F is having kittens over this because if HU is out, then there's nothing to stop OV doing anything he wants.   

There's a rumour swirling that within a week, the laggards on Russian oil sanctions will be turning off the taps that fund Putin's war.  It might be that OV has received his 15B Euro for "modernisation" from the EU to take care of oil sources.

As of this moment, there's no immediate threat to HU from Ukraine.   Putin's forces are tied up in the East and he has no chance to reach Odessa or Transnistria or the border.  Probably within a few weeks, Putin's entire Black Sea fleet will be gone now that UKR is receiving Harpoon anti-ship missiles.   Putin will have to stop where he is but he's going to be under constant insurgent activity.  Report I read recently - no link - that Russia is losing 70  troops a month in Melitopol.   And the recently successful attack on the puppet mayor of Enerhodar shows the occupying forces aren't "safe".
Marilyn Tassy
From here               

       Oh don't talk to me about fish sauce.

        Not quite the same but I was in Viet Nam for a month or so and that fish sauce is in everything there.   To me it tastes like metal.  I got sick of that endless metal taste and the bizarre lip smacking that goes on there - really strange behaviour.  Used to grind on me and by about 2 weeks of it I'd had enough.  It's enough to put anyone off.

        I only had one extended round of Hanoi but I wish I'd seen more of the rest of the country - fish sauce and lip smacking notwithstanding.
        - @fluffy2560


    I totally frgot how difficult it can be to have many different clutrues in the same house all living together.

    My Japanese DIL is sweet and shy and would never offend anyone on purpse but when she ate her soup she wuld drive my husband over the edge .

    I guess slurping in Japan is a thing.

    It got to the point where my husband would eat after my son and his wife were done eating. I always had to make up an excuse why he was late to sit down to dinner.

    Not that my husband has the greatest table manners in the world either!

    I ften tease him that I have to clean up after him like a 3 year old was sitting at the table.

    We always say it would be easier if we all just ate pills and did away with actual eating all together.

    Elbows on the table, chewing with your mouth open, waving your fork in the air while talking, putting more then 1/4th of a forkful in you mouth at a time getting up from the table with out asking to be excused  moving around or tapping your feet ect. where high crimes at my mother's table. TV off, no reading at the table, the list was far to long to dare a flashback attack. It's hard to keep up high standards . My older sister on top of all those house rules decided to do a Miss Manners type of etiquette curse. Had to relearn how t use a knife and frk, how to use a soup spoon properly, how far apart each glass should be placed on the table all the rules. To this day I've never eaten in a 5 star restaurant or had dinner with the Queen. I even dare to use paper towels and not fine linen...It's all so silly.


    - @Marilyn Tassy

OMG, yes the slurping, jeez, forgotten about that.    We find that so offensive but over there, it shows they are enjoying it.   Add in the lip smacking and you want to leave. And fast.  Absolute cringeworthy stuff. Culturally we're on different worlds.

I watch people eating in movies and you see them pushing food around, rarely take a bite,  but they change  camera angles and the eating person spits it out into a bucket.  A scene in a restaurant takes all day and so they'd be stuffed if they actually ate the stuff for real.

I've had a discussion about soup spoons here.  Apparently Hungarians don't have soup spoons. I find that rather odd.   Looks like all spoons are equal hereabouts.   They do have fish knives and butter knives.

I do agree that everyone should have etiquette lessons.  My mother told me how to eat on formal occasions and I've never forgotten those lessons.    I'm trying to hint to our  teenager to eat nicely but it's a wall of resistance.   How to fold up clothes nicely is another life skill we get push back on.   It's worthwhile trying to install good habits.  It's a good way to impress a potential partner.

My ex- used to leave the top off the toothpaste.  After a while it became symbolic of our relationship. All dried out!
- @fluffy2560

Too funny, all dried out...
fluffy2560
Received this from the GIC (Government Information Centre):



A new government has been formed. We consider it our most important task to preserve the security of our country and to protect Hungarian families from the harmful economic consequences of the war. We need to protect the overhead reduction and strengthen the military.

In order to achieve these goals, the Cabinet has made important decisions. In the budget for 2022 and 2023, we will create a fund for defense and a defense fund. From these we will finance the maintenance of overhead cuts and the strengthening of national defense. We will oblige large companies that have been making large profits in the recent past to pay most of their extra profits into these two funds. We expect them to contribute to the protection of the country in this way.

We have to reckon with the fact that the Russo-Ukrainian war will not end any time soon. The protracted nature of the conflict is causing energy prices to rise across Europe, which will significantly increase inflation. Even in these circumstances, we will do everything we can to provide protection for families. After that, we will not allow the Hungarian people to pay the price of the war either!

Sincerely:
Government Information Center
Cynic
Received this from the GIC (Government Information Centre):



A new government has been formed. We consider it our most important task to preserve the security of our country and to protect Hungarian families from the harmful economic consequences of the war. We need to protect the overhead reduction and strengthen the military.

In order to achieve these goals, the Cabinet has made important decisions. In the budget for 2022 and 2023, we will create a fund for defense and a defense fund. From these we will finance the maintenance of overhead cuts and the strengthening of national defense. We will oblige large companies that have been making large profits in the recent past to pay most of their extra profits into these two funds. We expect them to contribute to the protection of the country in this way.

We have to reckon with the fact that the Russo-Ukrainian war will not end any time soon. The protracted nature of the conflict is causing energy prices to rise across Europe, which will significantly increase inflation. Even in these circumstances, we will do everything we can to provide protection for families. After that, we will not allow the Hungarian people to pay the price of the war either!

Sincerely:
Government Information Center
- @fluffy2560

Oh dear, sounds a bit spooky.

I've just read in the UK press that the Russian oil that Hungary imports come through the Druzhba oil pipeline which comes through Ukraine; they are about to turn it off unless Orban falls in line with the rest of the EU.  How much truth (if any) is in that little snippet, I don't know.
Marilyn Tassy
I just read this to my husband.

He says it's OK if they tax big business and that every country needs a modern defense system and strong military.

Oh dear,not sure I like the sound of all of this personally.

He also mentioned that Romania wants to move their boarder into Hungary further.

I have no comment on that, I don't know what's going on around here.
fluffy2560
Received this from the GIC (Government Information Centre):



A new government has been formed. We consider it our most important task to preserve the security of our country and to protect Hungarian families from the harmful economic consequences of the war. We need to protect the overhead reduction and strengthen the military.

In order to achieve these goals, the Cabinet has made important decisions. In the budget for 2022 and 2023, we will create a fund for defense and a defense fund. From these we will finance the maintenance of overhead cuts and the strengthening of national defense. We will oblige large companies that have been making large profits in the recent past to pay most of their extra profits into these two funds. We expect them to contribute to the protection of the country in this way.

We have to reckon with the fact that the Russo-Ukrainian war will not end any time soon. The protracted nature of the conflict is causing energy prices to rise across Europe, which will significantly increase inflation. Even in these circumstances, we will do everything we can to provide protection for families. After that, we will not allow the Hungarian people to pay the price of the war either!

Sincerely:
Government Information Center
- @fluffy2560

Oh dear, sounds a bit spooky.
- @Cynic

Yes, Orban has decided he'll rule by decree because of the war crisis next door.   No crisis here as far as I can see.

Other rumours abound today including an airline passenger levy of about 10K HUF per trip (£25/$30) and maybe even restrictions on bank accounts/foreign currency holdings in companies.   They can do the levy without asking anyone as it's taxation but  capital controls would bring the ire of the EU.  Not that it worries OV and Co. 

The airline thing is a bit strange because Wizzair is or was owned by someone connected with OV and cronies. Wizzair looked to me like it was a beneficiary of the plot to stitch up Malev (former airline).  Malev was forced into  debt with illegal government loans and then collapsing it after the EU intervened.  Then that left Wizzair with no competition.  Who benefits as they say in crime detection!

I don't know what this defence fund is about.   They say they aren't welcoming foreign NATO troops here but there are already about 1000 here and it keeps creeping up.  It might be a fuel offset or modernisation of Hungarian military.  No idea. 

It's always been my view that there would be need to be some tax rises or austerity and rapid interest rate rises due to increasing inflation and debt incurred to finance the vote bribes/lies, sorry, I meant giveaways/manifesto presented to the electorate. Come winter there will be a major gas/fuel and possibly food crisis.
fluffy2560
He also mentioned that Romania wants to move their border into Hungary further.

I have no comment on that, I don't know what's going on around here.
- @Marilyn Tassy

Romania's not going to do that.

It's in the EU and NATO same as Hungary. 

It's requirement to join the EU to have peace with your neighbours, Russia not withstanding (i.e. Finland is in the EU).  And it's hard to see if you are in the same alliance, you'd have open military conflict with your neighbours.  Even Greece and Turkey aren't at war even though they aren't that friendly.

Hungary would be a pushover for any invader.   OV would be only too keen to roll over and let Putin tickle his tummy so long as OV can "rule" Lukashenko puppet style. 

Whatever HU does, do the opposite.
fluffy2560
Received this from the GIC (Government Information Centre):



A new government has been formed. We consider it our most important task to preserve the security of our country and to protect Hungarian families from the harmful economic consequences of the war. We need to protect the overhead reduction and strengthen the military.

In order to achieve these goals, the Cabinet has made important decisions. In the budget for 2022 and 2023, we will create a fund for defense and a defense fund. From these we will finance the maintenance of overhead cuts and the strengthening of national defense. We will oblige large companies that have been making large profits in the recent past to pay most of their extra profits into these two funds. We expect them to contribute to the protection of the country in this way.

We have to reckon with the fact that the Russo-Ukrainian war will not end any time soon. The protracted nature of the conflict is causing energy prices to rise across Europe, which will significantly increase inflation. Even in these circumstances, we will do everything we can to provide protection for families. After that, we will not allow the Hungarian people to pay the price of the war either!

Sincerely:
Government Information Center
- @fluffy2560

Oh dear, sounds a bit spooky.

I've just read in the UK press that the Russian oil that Hungary imports come through the Druzhba oil pipeline which comes through Ukraine; they are about to turn it off unless Orban falls in line with the rest of the EU.  How much truth (if any) is in that little snippet, I don't know.
- @Cynic

That's been around  a while.  The infrastructure to maintain it is in the East and the Ukrainians cannot get to it.  But I am also sure Ukraine is more than willing to screw OV over and deservedly so.   

Others are going to suffer downstream, I think mainly Czech Republic and Slovakia.  Czechs will be in a better position as they are already close to finishing an alternate pipeline from Germany.  Austria, Slovakia, Hungary etc, don't know about alternatives.  They all took their eye off the ball with diversifying supply.   EU might save everyone in the end.

No-one should put all their eggs in one basket.  It's been known for years that one should always have a Plan B and C etc and multiple supply lines.  D'oh!
Marilyn Tassy
Good ol' Malev Airlines.

They were really nice, served a bit of Hungary on their flights, cheeses, nice snacks and wine, friendly staff too.

My husband and son flew them the one time they had a charter flight direct frm LAX to BUD, 10 hours none stop.

It was great fast, no hassles and good meals all along the fight.
fluffy2560
Good ol' Malev Airlines.

They were really nice, served a bit of Hungary on their flights, cheeses, nice snacks and wine, friendly staff too.

My husband and son flew them the one time they had a charter flight direct frm LAX to BUD, 10 hours none stop.

It was great fast, no hassles and good meals all along the fight.
- @Marilyn Tassy

I liked them too. 

I was using them a lot at one point even to the extent that the ground staff started to recognise me and we exchanged a few words of recognition here and there. 

Wizzair has started to fly further away, even to Abu Dhabi these days.  But no long haul to Asia, USA/Canada or Africa etc.

I like Wizzair but their timetable/schedule to the UK is useless to my preferred airport (Gatwick - LGW) so I end up usually on BA to LHR (Heathrow).
zif
Wizzair is now starting up flights to Sri Lanka and Kazakhstan, but from Abu Dhabi.

Perhaps they don't have planes in their fleet suitable for long-haul flights?
fluffy2560
Wizzair is now starting up flights to Sri Lanka and Kazakhstan, but from Abu Dhabi.

Perhaps they don't have planes in their fleet suitable for long-haul flights?
- @zif

I think they had Kazakhstan for a while but Sri Lanka is unfortunate timing.  The place is close to collapse.  Wizzair don't really have any long distance planes (all Airbus fleet I believe). 

They couldn't get to Asia, not without intermediate fuel stops anyway or lower loading but they could always lease a couple of wide body planes to see how it might work.  Emirates might complain about flights on their routes.  They fly the giant Airbuses out of Bangkok a few times a day.  Obvious place to fly to would be Bangkok and Singapore.  Or maybe secondary routes into Vietnam or Malaysia.   All good holiday destinations.

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