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fluffy2560

Actaully my husband has a new pair of Converse shoes but never wears them because they are so uncomfortable.
I'm surpired people actually are able to wear them off the basketball courts.
Flat footed isn't even the word for how they treat your arches.
- @Marilyn Tassy

I had a pair of All-Stars back in the 60's, but I played basketball, my only memory was they made my feet stink.  They should have been called Chuck Taylor All-Stars (at least that's what my coach told us).  Going forward 60 years, my grandson (2 years old) turned up yesterday wearing a pair, made me smile.
- @Cynic

If you'd kept the All-Stars, you could have donated vintage shoes to your grandson in a few years. 

Could have be worth 1000s judging by the price of designer trainers these days.
Cynic

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40 km long queues at border crossing; seems like nothing much has changed since I lived there in the 80's.  A link to "Heute" (in German - sorry).

- @Cynic

They have increased checks on a lot of borders to tackle immigration and people trafficking gangs. Which is a good thing.
- @SimCityAT
I think it's more about flexing nationality muscles.  The numbers coming through in and caught in private cars and vans inter-Schengen must be absolutely tiny.   

Porous borders are far more likely in Finland and Belarus.  That's one of Putin's weapons - flying in immigrants at low cost and visa free to Belarus and Russia, then sending them on to the borders.  Once in Schengen, it's just easy to go anywhere.

It's interesting to look on Streetview and see places in Poland and elsewhere where it would be easy to just walk in.
- @fluffy2560

The German/Dutch/Belgian borders are extremely porous; we used to frequently have Sunday lunch at a gastatte that straddled the Dutch/German border near where we lived.  We moved to the UK, so hadn't been for a while and when we eventually went back, nothing had outwardly changed, until I spied that the beer pump that was Warsteiner, was now Grolsch; so I asked what had happened and was told the border had been re-aligned and the Gastatte car park (which used to be the old Dutch Customs house) was now (with agreement) back in the Netherlands and a section of a stream in Gronau had been moved back into Germany; it happens constantly.

When we were back last week, border checks further North (Het Hazenbosch) into Germany, were non-existent; when you consider how for months during the pandemic, every single crossing in NRW was manned 24/7 for Covid checks, it does make you wonder just how this is being managed.
fluffy2560

The German/Dutch/Belgian borders are extremely porous; we used to frequently have Sunday lunch at a gastatte that straddled the Dutch/German border near where we lived.  We moved to the UK, so hadn't been for a while and when we eventually went back, nothing had outwardly changed, until I spied that the beer pump that was Warsteiner, was now Grolsch; so I asked what had happened and was told the border had been re-aligned and the Gastatte car park (which used to be the old Dutch Customs house) was now (with agreement) back in the Netherlands and a section of a stream in Gronau had been moved back into Germany; it happens constantly.

When we were back last week, border checks further North (Het Hazenbosch) into Germany, were non-existent; when you consider how for months during the pandemic, every single crossing in NRW was manned 24/7 for Covid checks, it does make you wonder just how this is being managed.
- @Cynic

Makes you wonder what the point of all the checks are or were.  When Hungary joined the EU, the Austrians put up lots of border checks looking for perfume and cigarettes.  In Hungary, these were much cheaper (at least 25% of the price).  There was a giant AT billboard which said only 25 cigarettes could imported into Austria from Hungary.  Of course, totally against the free market on cigarettes for personal use.  It didn't take long for them to stop hassling people and the billboard disappeared. All that crazy overtime and a law that had no basis.  With few results, there is no way  they could keep up waving the flag.

Bit similar, there's an interesting story about a mountain hut varying between Italy and Switzerland because  of the changing nature of a glacier (due to global warming).  Quite unusual. 

Back in the 1990s, I remember with the Slovak and Czech divorce, they were demarcating the border and ended up trading bits of territory to straighten it out.
fluffy2560
Yes, "kids these days" ( Sound like my mother there!) are copying fashions from the past.
I still have some ,"original" pieces but will never wear them. They still fit but at my age it looks like I never opened up a fashion mag because I'm stuck in the past.
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I thought of reselling some of my 80's items but I can't let them go for pennies on the dollar. Huge investment at the time.
- @Marilyn Tassy

Maybe put them on jofogas.hu or Ebay?   

We sold some kids furniture on Jofogas recently and I was amazed we managed to get anything for it at all! 

Unbelievable what people will buy and what they are prepared to pay.
Marilyn Tassy

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And the Brexiteers are still saying it has nothing to with Brexit. Of cause it, there are more checks and the stamping of passports. But didn`t they want stronger border controls?
- @SimCityAT

Seems like Germany and Austria have caught Brexititis:

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40 km long queues at border crossing; seems like nothing much has changed since I lived there in the 80's.  A link to "Heute" (in German - sorry).



Wow, no thanks, won't be going there anytime soon!

Now days I am much more chilled out then when I was in my 20's-30's.

I remember leaving communist Hungary by car with my husband and son in 1986.

At the Austrian boarder we had to exit the car while they looked at our papers and asked questions.

I thought the whole thing was a joke.

I was not really helping the guard much when he was checking out my vitals,  he was really looking hard at eye color, height ect. I kept screwing around.

My husband alsmot lost it with me , he just wanted to move on and drive off not play with these  officals.

Like really, who on earth was going to actually try to leave communist HUngary with their child and and US passprt and 9 pieces of luggage if they were not legit.

The stupdity of it really took me back. They probably were just bored and trying to show their boss they remembered how to check people. We were the only car leaving Hungary for miles to come.

My husband and another guy did leave Hungary in the early 1970's at a crossing. The figured even though the guards were armed they would never shoot into a group of cars.

They ran through parked cars and escaped into Italy. Bold move .The hired a guy to drive them to the crossing and just walked out of the car into the wods like they were going to relieve themselves. Timing is everything.










- @Cynic
fluffy2560
Wow, no thanks, won't be going there anytime soon!

Now days I am much more chilled out then when I was in my 20's-30's.

I remember leaving communist Hungary by car with my husband and son in 1986.

At the Austrian boarder we had to exit the car while they looked at our papers and asked questions.

I thought the whole thing was a joke.

I was not really helping the guard much when he was checking out my vitals,  he was really looking hard at eye color, height ect. I kept screwing around.

My husband alsmot lost it with me , he just wanted to move on and drive off not play with these  officals.

Like really, who on earth was going to actually try to leave communist HUngary with their child and and US passprt and 9 pieces of luggage if they were not legit.

The stupdity of it really took me back. They probably were just bored and trying to show their boss they remembered how to check people. We were the only car leaving Hungary for miles to come.

My husband and another guy did leave Hungary in the early 1970's at a crossing. The figured even though the guards were armed they would never shoot into a group of cars.

They ran through parked cars and escaped into Italy. Bold move .The hired a guy to drive them to the crossing and just walked out of the car into the wods like they were going to relieve themselves. Timing is everything.
- @Marilyn Tassy

Makes you wonder how one fellow countryman could be an enemy of another countryman.   

I mean, same education, same culture, same music, same kind of families yet they buy into a way to abuse their neighbours. 

The former Mrs F and I travelled to Berlin via East Germany and the communist border area onwards via the transit route.   It was all about intimidation.   The whole thing was set up to prove or at least put on a theatre show they were super tough and authoritative.   Looking back on it, it seemed scary.

The people were clearly sold an absolute BS of a lie.  I've got deja-vu.  I wonder what it is like to wake up from living in that kind of fiction and realise it was all rubbish.
Marilyn Tassy
The 2 times we traveled into or out of communist HUngary my husband got really a bit nervous.
I had never been outside of the US before coming in 1978 except a couple trips to Mexico which is basically not too different to me then parts of Ca.
Half my school mates were Mexican/americans.
I probably was arrogant because I had it in my mind that there was no way I should be afriad of anything because I'm American and my son was too.
Silly really to think that way because my now husband and I were not legally married on our first trip over and it was his first time returning after escaping. He was a US citizen at the time.
Who knows they might of pulled some BS and put him in jail for leaving in the first place.
As it was they were rougher with him at all crossings then they were with me or our son.
They actually searched all my husband's luggage and told him he had better not sell anything on the black market.
No one really hassled me, they just stared.
fluffy2560
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No one really hassled me, they just stared.
- @Marilyn Tassy

Probably had never seen an American before.  Not the two headed imperialist running dog fascist monsters they were taught about at Commie school.

One amusing and surprising thing to me was that people  in Hungary thought I was "exotic".   I am not sure what exotic people look like or do.  I thought I was the same as them!  They all thought I was rich.  Yeah, right.

American passport - at least back then - would have been a useful shield to keep the authorities away. 

British passport possibly more likely to get you in trouble.  And the British government very likely to abandon you to your fate. I always remember people who got banged up abroad (put in jail) on trumped up charges saying to think twice before getting the Embassy too involved.  More likely to make it worse for you!
Marilyn Tassy
Yes, I'm a bit of a drama queen at times. When we landed on US soil our first time to Hungary at LAX, I almost got down on the ground and kissed the soil!
At least I told my husband i was going to do that, the look on his face told me not to go nuts like that, even for a joke.
He is so conservative with some emotions. I thought it would be funny to do as a lark.
I really was happy to be back in the US and never wanted to visit HU ever again.
It took 8 years before I was talked into returning. I had my husband go alone several times, I couldn't be bothered .
I'm not big on traveling, to me a good time is sitting by the pool all day long. Not hassling with languages and customs agents.
Now days with the internet you can visit anywhere from the comfort of your own home. Even concerts are better then going in person.
Funny in the US getting banged up has a totally different meaning then going to jail.
fluffy2560
Yes, I'm a bit of a drama queen at times. When we landed on US soil our first time to Hungary at LAX, I almost got down on the ground and kissed the soil!
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Funny in the US getting banged up has a totally different meaning then going to jail.
- @Marilyn Tassy

Be like the Pope kissing the ground then!   I wonder if he really places his lips on the ground or he has some kind of mouth shield.  I am not sure of the hygiene. Probably OK at the airport on the tarmac but not out in the countryside anywhere.

Banged up, haha, I can imagine.  Like "wash up" too - another meaning in the UK.    "Wash up" in the UK means to wash the dishes. 

I once heard a story - maybe made up - of British visitors to the USA saying they will wash up with other British visitors volunteering to help them and the US  hosts being somewhat surprised by it.

Quite a lot of UK expressions are Navy and seafaring related. I guess it's because we're an island nation.

I think we're all becoming more familiar with these differences - what with TV/TikTok/Instagram and wot-not.
Marilyn Tassy
I love hearing,"odd" expressions.
My mother used some from the 1930's and 40's and  I started using some of them just to be odd.
I know calling someone a ,"tuna" used to be an insult.
Everyone knows the common ones such as, "something smells fishy" but mom used some really strange ones at times.
My husband often says some in English that are said in Hungarian, something is usually lost in translation!

Yes, washing up in the US means taking a shower or bath.
It's all good, in Japan they take family baths.
fluffy2560
I love hearing,"odd" expressions.
My mother used some from the 1930's and 40's and  I started using some of them just to be odd.
I know calling someone a ,"tuna" used to be an insult.
Everyone knows the common ones such as, "something smells fishy" but mom used some really strange ones at times.
My husband often says some in English that are said in Hungarian, something is usually lost in translation!

Yes, washing up in the US means taking a shower or bath.
It's all good, in Japan they take family baths.
- @Marilyn Tassy


Bit strange being "all washed up" as being at a low point or finished or useless or similar.  Not quite the same kind of thing as the other washing ups.

I don't fancy sitting in a bath with my relatives.  In fact baths are odd themselves - like sitting in your own dirt or with others, their dirt as well.  Not without chlorine in it anyway.  Showers better really - all goes down the drain without touching anyone else!

Being a bit warm means being gay in Hungary but here in the UK means you're a bit too hot - i.e. nothing special. 

On that theme, I've just come back from the shops in Brighton.  This seaside town is the regional shopping city  of East Sussex county. It's also the gay capital of the UK (bit like SF is/was) and it's the local Pride on Saturday.   It's  amazing how much the entire place has bought into it - like everywhere!  It was quite a novelty to see it.  Not like Budapest is at this time of the year.  It's  full-on Rainbow Town! 

And it's mobbed - for some reason - by mainland European people. I heard German, Spanish and French on a short walk around the place and lots of French and German cars.
Guest202225105
"Taking to the cleaners" is my personal fav one
Marilyn Tassy
"Taking to the cleaners" is my personal fav one
- @Bian_ca6661

Off hand, I can't remember many of the odd expressions but they pop in my head at the oddest times.
Not the silly ones such as,"23 scadoo" but the common everyday expressions from the past.
I swear though at times when I hear the rappers I have no clue what they are on about.
Language is always changing.


fluffy2560
"Taking to the cleaners" is my personal fav one
- @Bian_ca6661

Off hand, I can't remember many of the odd expressions but they pop in my head at the oddest times.
Not the silly ones such as,"23 scadoo" but the common everyday expressions from the past.
I swear though at times when I hear the rappers I have no clue what they are on about.
Language is always changing.


- @Marilyn Tassy

Haha,  reminds me of how advertising enters the language as sayings - here are some of the ones I remember from my travels and used sometimes by us. 

"Eins, Zwei, Deins" - German for  "One, Two, Yours" used on German auction sites.  Like that.

"Goed so Jocky" -  learnt this in NL but unsure how to write it but means "OK, yes, of course".  Probably out of usage now but someone will fill us in.

"You can do it if you B&Q it" -  comes from the UK B&Q (like Obi) DIY store advert, meaning you can do it. 

"Simples" - UK TV comedy digital meerkats with Russian accents advertising price comparison web sites - means something is easy.   Those TV meerkats have become a thing in their own right.  They might be Ukrainian meerkats now I think of it.  So if someone shows you how to do something, you can say "Simples".

One of the absolute classics, a work of genius and now utterly legendary is how the savoury spread name Marmite has entered the UK English lexicon as a description for anything - like he's/she's a Marmite politician, or it's a bit Marmite.  This means you either love him/her or hate him/her and you can love it or leave whatever it is.  Talk about raising awareness of the product - it's literally embedded in the language.   

Bit like people using Google as a verb.  Or Xerox. Or Hoover.  Appropriated their trademarks.
Marilyn Tassy
When we moved to Hawii I thought i had landed in another country, not another state.
The speak,"Pigeon English" there.
If you do not try to learn some pigeon, then you will be known as a snob or as they say, "have one kine attitude".
Most of my,"Hollie" friends, ( none Hawaiians) lived in Hawaii most of their lives and spoke both "the Queens English and Pigeon".
I had to learn that "making she-she" meant using the WC.
A ,"kiki" was a child ect.
I've actually had long conversations with people over there and didn't understand one word they were saying.
We knew a Hungarian man who lived in a very local Hawaiian village . He couldn't speak any English at all when he arrived in Hawaii so learned all his English in Pigeon.
I swear, it was the strangest accent ever and even his Hungarian friends could hardly understand him when he spoke ,"English".
Guest202225105

@Marilyn Tassy I might be younger but I'm with you on the rappers language. I've no clue most of the time

Guest202225105

@fluffy2560 oh the meerkats, they were my favorites. Also the Vodafone's bees

Guest202225105

@Marilyn Tassy sounds  a lot like my 1st encounter with "Scottish English" in Highlands 1f600.svg making she she.. I'm gonna use that and confuse people with it from now on

fluffy2560
When we moved to Hawii I thought i had landed in another country, not another state.
The speak,"Pigeon English" there.
If you do not try to learn some pigeon, then you will be known as a snob or as they say, "have one kine attitude".
Most of my,"Hollie" friends, ( none Hawaiians) lived in Hawaii most of their lives and spoke both "the Queens English and Pigeon".
I had to learn that "making she-she" meant using the WC.
A ,"kiki" was a child ect.
I've actually had long conversations with people over there and didn't understand one word they were saying.
We knew a Hungarian man who lived in a very local Hawaiian village . He couldn't speak any English at all when he arrived in Hawaii so learned all his English in Pigeon.
I swear, it was the strangest accent ever and even his Hungarian friends could hardly understand him when he spoke ,"English".
- @Marilyn Tassy
Hawaiians speaking the Queen's English!  Interesting to hear that.  But I suppose looking at the Hawaiian state flag with the Union Jack in it meant they were in somewhat of a quandry where their loyalties lay at some point in history.  The British have history in the region and still do.  Hawaii could have been an independent state or territory within the Commonwealth with Queen as head of state. 

UK has been divesting itself of its territories all over - Pitcairn for example might has well be transferred to NZ.  They did that fairly recently out in the Pacific with some other places (Tokelau etc).  The British built an airport on Saint Helena in the Atlantic but I cannot see them doing it on Pitcairn. 
Marilyn Tassy
It would,"blow our mind" at times when a Pigeon speaking friend would just switch over and speak perfect English with grammer and all.
It's more of an ,"old boys" club sort of thing to speak pigeon for many educated people living there.
My next door neighbor was like an older sister to me. She was born and raised in Honolulu, her father had been stationed in Hawaii when she was born.
A,"Howlie" lady who married a local Hawaiian boy on Maui. Howlie, I forgot it's spelled this way, they have names for just about every race of human over there and they are not trying to be racist.My co-worker had been married at one time to a black serviceman. She said her 2 children were ,"Poepoelo" not Howlie. Very strange...Her second husband was a huge footballer from Tonga. He was frighting really.Never had any expression on his face.
She had to speak pigeon with her in-laws, they disliked her as it was for not being a local girl. My other neighbor and good buddy was a local Hawaiian lady with 2 small children. She would speak proper English with me since I had just moved there and speak pigeon with the other neighbor and her children.
Took awhile to get used to it.
At my salon job on the Big Island the ladies I worked with tok it upn themselves t teach me more pigeon, they would only speak it with me. Confusing at times when all they could repeat to me was, "Where's da kine"? I didn't know if they were speaking of a hairbrush or what. They really were nice however.
I was told by one of them that perhaps I should think of moving to Honolulu again because I had ,"too much energy" for the Big Island. Took me awhile to figure out they all were higher then kites at work and I must of seemed like I was on speed to them.
One f my biggest compliments at work was when a local guy gave me a joint instead of money as a tip. I must of finally fit in.
Gave it away, never smoked at all in Hawaii, strange I know.
Guest202225105
I learned English at the horse riding centre near by Ripon, in North Yorkshire. My employer and his sister who was also my landlady spoke proper Queens English and she kept telling me not to pick up the Yorkie pronunciation. Why, of course after a year I ended up pronouncing pub as "poob" and lovely as "loovely" and so on 1f600.svg I remember my landlady's face of defeat when I asked for more "moogs" (mugs) 1f601.svg they were lovely people
fluffy2560
I learned English at the horse riding centre near by Ripon, in North Yorkshire. My employer and his sister who was also my landlady spoke proper Queens English and she kept telling me not to pick up the Yorkie pronunciation. Why, of course after a year I ended up pronouncing pub as "poob" and lovely as "loovely" and so on 1f600.svg I remember my landlady's face of defeat when I asked for more "moogs" (mugs) 1f601.svg they were lovely people
- @Bian_ca6661

One thing  - at least about British English - is there's no central authority, unlike say Acadamie Francaise (AF).  Everything goes and it evolves day by day just on usage. Words are added and disappear all the time.  No-one is looking over anyone's shoulder.   Queens English should really be RP - Received Pronunciation.   BBC used to use it as their yardstick.

The AF have to create new variants to "protect the language", usually from Anglicisations like Le Shopping and Le Car Parking and to put a stop to Le Mountain Bike (VTT - Velo Tout Terrain).  I think Germany has the Goethe Institute (much hilarity Der Airbag translations as Der Windbeutel).  There's a Spanish one as well - Cervantes Institute possibly. Anyway, all guardians.

Yorkshire is a special case and people there tend to think of it as almost a separate country -  as shown in this short documentary extract (click here - not great quality) 
Guest202225105
@fluffy2560 oh thank you, that's quite interesting. Is the video some sort of commercial?
I'm not sure about Yorkshire "mentality", the centre was quite a world of its own, I met many kids from all around the world, Americans, French, German, we got staff from London, Bermuda and Edinburgh, Latvia... etc. It was "accent hell" for me as fresh learner. But they were nice to me, very patient with stupid Eastern European with almost no English skills 1f600.svg but of course it was 13 years ago, the mood might have changed since then.
Btw, Le Shopping? Do they really use it??
fluffy2560
@fluffy2560 oh thank you, that's quite interesting. Is the video some sort of commercial?
I'm not sure about Yorkshire "mentality", the centre was quite a world of its own, I met many kids from all around the world, Americans, French, German, we got staff from London, Bermuda and Edinburgh, Latvia... etc. It was "accent hell" for me as fresh learner. But they were nice to me, very patient with stupid Eastern European with almost no English skills 1f600.svg but of course it was 13 years ago, the mood might have changed since then.
Btw, Le Shopping? Do they really use it??
- @Bian_ca6661

The video is from a very old comedy show - it's a series of jokes about Yorkshire people. All the stereotypes and cliches in there.  I recognise all of them as my mother was from Yorkshire.  All of that is something I grew up with.  That and Yorkshire Puddings. This is something which should become popular everywhere.  Bit like Langos - should be exported everywhere.

And the French and Le Shopping, yes they do use it but the AF is trying to stop that kind of thing. It's a bit crazy because no-one is really paying attention - kids will TikTok and Instagram anyway regardless of how they want to dress it up.  Bit like in Hungary, who really uses számítógép?   Everyone knows what a computer (or a laptop is) - interchangeable as far as I am concerned. I know which one will win in the end.

But I'm very biased of course as in English we use whatever we want without people looking over our shoulder or trying to police our use of language.
zif
Complete this sentence:

“[           ] is the Lone Star state of Europe."
fluffy2560
Complete this sentence:

“[           ] is the Lone Star state of Europe."
- @zif

Let me guess - begins with an H and ends in a Y?

CPAC on your mind?

I didn't even have to look it up.

Anyway, I reckon OV's buddy Trump is going to be spending time in Federal prison soon enough.  Alex Jones's text messages will be viewed by the 6 Jan enquiry. This connects with Roger Stone. Trump's WH counsel Cipollone is going down too.
SimCityAT
Complete this sentence:

“[           ] is the Lone Star state of Europe."
- @zif

Let me guess - begins with an H and ends in a Y?

CPAC on your mind?

I didn't even have to look it up.

Anyway, I reckon OV's buddy Trump is going to be spending time in Federal prison soon enough.  Alex Jones's text messages will be viewed by the 6 Jan enquiry. This connects with Roger Stone. Trump's WH counsel Cipollone is going down too.
- @fluffy2560

Trump does like to make history
fluffy2560
Complete this sentence:

“[           ] is the Lone Star state of Europe."
- @zif

Let me guess - begins with an H and ends in a Y?

CPAC on your mind?

I didn't even have to look it up.

Anyway, I reckon OV's buddy Trump is going to be spending time in Federal prison soon enough.  Alex Jones's text messages will be viewed by the 6 Jan enquiry. This connects with Roger Stone. Trump's WH counsel Cipollone is going down too.
- @fluffy2560

Trump does like to make history
- @SimCityAT

He certainly will be remembered but history won't be kind to him at all. 

I'm just musing on where in history his place would be - comedy leader?, political incompetent? lunatic? proxy agent?
Guest202225105

@fluffy2560 sad part is that there will always be lunatic followers defending his actions

Guest202225105
@fluffy2560 We use the french Le, La, Les as well  but mostly as a joke. Plus a lot of slang and regional dialects and English words... for a country so small that it could fit in to one Chinese village, we definitely "butcher" our own language.  Not always to my liking, but I'm also sinner sometimes 1f601.svg
Wouldn't that comedy show be considered insulting nowadays? 1f600.svg
fluffy2560

@fluffy2560 sad part is that there will always be lunatic followers defending his actions

- @Bian_ca6661

Yes, nothing like converts to be the most enthusiastic. 

Mrs F told me that way back pre-change her boss was a committed communist.  Really did believe it all. I always wondered what the boss thinks now.  Probably nothing much but one might consider it needs an apology for supporting an oppressive regime. 

But for OV, some of his supporters may have seen some of his true spots now - we now know what he really has been thinking all this time.  His long time ally,  Hegedus has some damning comments. 

OV political architect Finkelstein being out of the picture since 2017 is great news but with a name like that, one couldn't help thinking he would have been a victim of the rhetoric that went around in Hungary in WW2 and could possibly have a resurgence in these troubled times.

BTW, OV said at CPAC that oil price highs are an American plot and nothing to do with Russian attempted hegemony in Europe.  WTF?
Marilyn Tassy
@fluffy2560 We use the french Le, La, Les as well  but mostly as a joke. Plus a lot of slang and regional dialects and English words... for a country so small that it could fit in to one Chinese village, we definitely "butcher" our own language.  Not always to my liking, but I'm also sinner sometimes 1f601.svg
Wouldn't that comedy show be considered insulting nowadays? 1f600.svg
- @Bian_ca6661

I personally think French and Italian are the lovest languages to listen to.
I took French in Jr, high and got an A, not bad.
Decided the next year to try out German.big mistake.
I was 2 months late in enrollement of the German class and was lost.
Should of stuck with what I was good at.
People are so ver sensitive with comedy these days that I hardly find any funny comics.
Richard Pryor,Joan Rivers,George Carlin, RIP.
Saw that idiot Sam Kennison live once, my sister was funnier then him when she had enough of his,act" and stood up and heckled him. She got more laughes then he did.

fluffy2560
@fluffy2560 We use the french Le, La, Les as well  but mostly as a joke. Plus a lot of slang and regional dialects and English words... for a country so small that it could fit in to one Chinese village, we definitely "butcher" our own language.  Not always to my liking, but I'm also sinner sometimes 1f601.svg
Wouldn't that comedy show be considered insulting nowadays? 1f600.svg
- @Bian_ca6661

Yorkshire could well be another country.  Lancashire somewhat the same.  War of the Roses and so on.

But actually I think the comedy video is a celebration. It is, after all, Yorkshire people are laughing at clichés of themselves.  British humour is mostly about self-deprecation - introverted rather than extroverted. Rather inward looking rather than outward looking.   It's OK to make jokes about yourself.
Marilyn Tassy
Yesterdsay OV made a speach in Texas in English.
It's a bit over 30 mins. long and on U tube.
Got my evening ,"entertainment" planned.
fluffy2560
I personally think French and Italian are the lovest languages to listen to.
I took French in Jr, high and got an A, not bad.
Decided the next year to try out German.big mistake.
I was 2 months late in enrollement of the German class and was lost.
Should of stuck with what I was good at.
People are so ver sensitive with comedy these days that I hardly find any funny comics.
Richard Pryor,Joan Rivers,George Carlin, RIP.
Saw that idiot Sam Kennison live once, my sister was funnier then him when she had enough of his,act" and stood up and heckled him. She got more laughes then he did.

- @Marilyn Tassy

German is probably one of the most unromantic languages to listen to but it's also quite easy to learn - Dutch is even easier.  Ich liebe dich doesn't have the same pull as Je t'aime.   Apparently while English speakers like French and Italian, the French are keen on Russian sounds.  Difficult to understand that - sounds like someone chewing a wasp.

Pryor, Rivers and Carlin were not bad but I draw the line at Chris Rock.  He's quite a good actor but the comedy sucks big time. I don't know Sam Kennison and sounds like he's not worth the time of day.   
fluffy2560
Yesterdsay OV made a speach in Texas in English.
It's a bit over 30 mins. long and on U tube.
Got my evening ,"entertainment" planned.
- @Marilyn Tassy

Can you stand 30m of that?!

Tonight, I've got some drying paint that needs watching!
Guest202225105

@fluffy2560 you'd be surprised how many people in my homeland still cherish the good old commie times. I guess it's the people who never had any ambitions and aspirations to become more than  controlled puppets. They needed authorities to literally line their days, no idea what to do with freedom.  I can tolerate the old generation with this attitude, they had spent over 30 years in that brainwashing, but it's somewhat funny coming from people younger than me to feel nostalgic about those days, I was only 6 years old in 1989 when it all crumbled, so I myself have nothing to remember really. Interestingly enough, most of people missing good old times are big fans of OV? Coincidence? I don't think so.

Guest202225105
@Marilyn Tassy I agree on Italian, not so keen on French, although I'd been studying French for 6 years in elementary school.
Then I jumped into German class at the college which was huge slap in the face, but spoken German is not too "earful". And you're right, it's easy to learn. I guess any language skill is beneficial
Guest202225105

@fluffy2560 it's great ability to mock and laugh at ourselves. I feel like people lose this ability nowadays, and I'm person who dislikes watching the tongue.

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