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        @fluffy2560 One thing I have to say, sometimes theater does not need language, can be a musical performance or even dance performance.       -@cdw057I actually said that in my post.  I've been to dance performances and it was OK. One of our kids was performing in the show so we had special interest.  Concerts, sure, they are OK but I was a bit bored when I saw Omega (before they all died of COVID and cancer).  Omega were the Hungarian "Rolling Stones".  But ordinary plays  etc, forget it.    I was at one of those and I had ants in my pants fidgeting . Utter waste of time. The big blockbuster shows like Les Miserables that one would see in London etc., they are few and far between here. Mrs F has told me we should go and see Cats here in Hungary.    More memorably, I saw Les Miserables and Starlight Express in London at famous London theatres.  Both were stunningly well produced shows with very high production values.  I am not sure if it'd be possible to beat that here.  If the Abba holographic show comes to Hungary, we might see that as the tunes are timeless.What we do now if going to the cinema is to check the other films on at the same time. I might go to the film I want to see  in English and the others go to a Hungarian one. We just wait for each other until both are finished.  If there's a film we all want to see, we usually watch it in English.Must be a fairly typical dual language family life!        -@fluffy2560

Yes, an Abba show would be fun.

Took my son to see , "Mama

Mia" in Las Vegas.

We had a good time, sang with all the other loones at the show.

I've seen the new Abba production partly on U tube, should be a fun time for an Abba fan.

My son ( silly nerd at times but loveable) was so into Abba in his late teens that all day long he blasted their music in the house and I had to sit with him and watch videos of their old shows.

He went to Sweden before the Abba museum was built there, to bad he missed that.

He however, God knows how he got it through customs, brought back in his suitcase a cobble stone from Sweden where Abba had a photo shoot one time.

He dug it up in the middle of the night? Good thing no one saw him or it would of been bad I think, Thankfully the satute of limitations has passed!

Must weigh in at 8 kilos or more! Good for an ugly door stop I suppose.

I couldn't believe he carried that stone all the way across the seas and didn't think of buying any other  souvinire. A pair of wooden clogs even.

Never saw any opreas here in Budapest.

I can thank my SIL for that.

In her teens she bought herself a season pass for 2 for the opera.

My then preteen husband had to go with her all the time, get dressed up in his suit and listen to the fat lady sing.

He hated it so much that he will never see a show again.

A concert of rock music, he will jump at going but anything to do with opera or theather he will give a hard pass on.

I wanted to see the day time ballet show at Erkil theater in the past. He said I can go by myself.

I can't dance to save my life but as a child and as a 22 year old I went to ballet classes for the exercise and fun and for  self control it takes to do it with others .

Loved it.

Patrick Swayze's mother, Patsy owned and taught at her dance studio in our small town. Simi Valley. My sister took tap lessons from her at her dance studio. When I was 22 I moved back to Simi for about 6 months and went 2 times per week to her free dance classes in a community center in a city park in our town.

A long, hard 2 hour class.

She was a wonderful teacher and person.

She had dreams of being a professional ballet dancer but was too tall, around 5'8".

She did more modern dance and tap . She later did the coreography for several movies.

I'm tall too, 5'9" so for me she was the perfect role model.

There were really only about a dozen or so of us who took advantage of these free classes.

Very odd how many people don't reach higher even if something is offered for free to them.

On the subject of Hungarian music groups....

Does anyone know how Bill Deak lost his leg?

He is a blues singer in a group called," Deak Bill Blues" I think.

I've seen him singing a few times with The Hobo Blues Band.

I know, they used to say Omega was the HU version of the Stones.

Sorry, not to me they weren't.

My husband knew some of the guys in the old HU band , "Locomotive GT".

We went to the birthday party of their lead guatarist, Tamas Barta in Hollywood.

My sisters HU BF took lessons from him .

He was killed in Ca. after working for the HU paper business as it was then called.

Knock at his front door and a blast from a guy when he opened the door.

I later lived in a nice apt. complex in Tarzana where many of the ladies knew his widowed wife. She was American and worked in the music industry  behind the sence in the offices.

By then he had been replaced by Omega.

He defected when they were on tour in the US in the early 70's.

He never made it big in the US in music , worked for awhile as a sessions guartist but never reached the level he had with Omega.

His biggest mistake I think is working for Hungarians in that business.

They were nuts. I was talked into working in their office  ( against my better judement), I quit after a day and a half if that long.

Never got a penny from them either! More like a headache!

Our old next door neighbors brother was one of the dancers for the now defunked HU group, NOX.

I thought they were rather cute and very different.

Yes, an Abba show would be fun.Took my son to see , "MamaMia" in Las Vegas.We had a good time, sang with all the other loones at the show.I've seen the new Abba production partly on U tube, should be a fun time for an Abba fan.My son ( silly nerd at times but loveable) was so into Abba in his late teens that all day long he blasted their music in the house and I had to sit with him and watch videos of their old shows.He went to Sweden before the Abba museum was built there, to bad he missed that.He however, God knows how he got it through customs, brought back in his suitcase a cobble stone from Sweden where Abba had a photo shoot one time.He dug it up in the middle of the night? Good thing no one saw him or it would of been bad I think, Thankfully the satute of limitations has passed!Must weigh in at 8 kilos or more! Good for an ugly door stop I suppose.I couldn't believe he carried that stone all the way across the seas and didn't think of buying any other  souvinire. A pair of wooden clogs even.Never saw any opreas here in Budapest.I can thank my SIL for that.In her teens she bought herself a season pass for 2 for the opera.My then preteen husband had to go with her all the time, get dressed up in his suit and listen to the fat lady sing.He hated it so much that he will never see a show again.A concert of rock music, he will jump at going but anything to do with opera or theather he will give a hard pass on.I wanted to see the day time ballet show at Erkil theater in the past. He said I can go by myself.I can't dance to save my life but as a child and as a 22 year old I went to ballet classes for the exercise and fun and for  self control it takes to do it with others .Loved it.Patrick Swayze's mother, Patsy owned and taught at her dance studio in our small town. Simi Valley. My sister took tap lessons from her at her dance studio. When I was 22 I moved back to Simi for about 6 months and went 2 times per week to her free dance classes in a community center in a city park in our town.A long, hard 2 hour class.She was a wonderful teacher and person.She had dreams of being a professional ballet dancer but was too tall, around 5'8".She did more modern dance and tap . She later did the coreography for several movies.I'm tall too, 5'9" so for me she was the perfect role model.There were really only about a dozen or so of us who took advantage of these free classes.Very odd how many people don't reach higher even if something is offered for free to them.        -@Marilyn Tassy

I feel for your hubby.  No way would I have a season ticket for the opera. I'd rather spend the money on rock and roll. Preferably heavy metal!

I quite liked Patrick Swayze.  He wasn't a bad actor and I enjoyed the movie Roadhouse he was the lead in. I didn't know about his mother being a professional dancer. I guess that explains how he managed to do all that stuff.   I guess his peer would have been John Travolta who I also liked as an actor more than a dancer. I saw him in Pulp Fiction (his comeback role) with our No. 1 Fluffyette who was given "homework" to watch it!  Wow, about time schools recognised the importance of visual arts.  Seems our kid has inherited all this interest somewhat from me.  I'm an appreciator but it looks like we'll have a creator as well. 

I guess the Abba stone graces your son's place now or is it just lost somewhere over time.  Abba are of course Swedish and not Dutch but I happen to know the Dutch call cobblestones "kinderkopjes" or "children's heads".  I love the Dutch but I don't like that much.  Reminds me of the robots in The Terminator squashing all the skulls of the humans they've destroyed.

Looks like dog walking weather.  Bit cold for it but sunny at least.

Thank goodness its warmed up, now. I don't have a dog but do enjoy a wark for the exercise but when its -10°C, sod that I am staying indoors.

Well its the 1st increase I've ever had, so can't complain, I share it with a friend and meet up with him once a month and he pays for the drinks so I am not losing out really.

Well its the 1st increase I've ever had, so can't complain, I share it with a friend and meet up with him once a month and he pays for the drinks so I am not losing out really.         -@SimCityAT

I want to stop paying for these things.  TBH, there are other ways to watch. 

On Netflix (which we pay for), we're only watching Money Heist: Berlin.   Quirky but the Professor ain't in it which is a bit surprising.  But he's busy with the GoT spin off.

Quite expensive if that's the only thing we watch.

I've been watching For All Mankind recently. Season 4 ended. I liked it. I hope we'll see Season 5.  One of the best shows made by Apple TV.  They have been doing extremely well on shows recently - Slow Horses and The Silo etc.

I also watched the Apple financed movie Killers of the Flower Moon. It's really long, like 3.5h. I had to watch it in two parts. It wasn't bad and had a good cast.  Mainly it was about the characters, injustice, evil people and some very stupidly thick people and not a huge amount of action.  I don't think I wasted me time. 

    Yes, an Abba show would be fun.Took my son to see , "MamaMia" in Las Vegas.We had a good time, sang with all the other loones at the show.I've seen the new Abba production partly on U tube, should be a fun time for an Abba fan.My son ( silly nerd at times but loveable) was so into Abba in his late teens that all day long he blasted their music in the house and I had to sit with him and watch videos of their old shows.He went to Sweden before the Abba museum was built there, to bad he missed that.He however, God knows how he got it through customs, brought back in his suitcase a cobble stone from Sweden where Abba had a photo shoot one time.He dug it up in the middle of the night? Good thing no one saw him or it would of been bad I think, Thankfully the satute of limitations has passed!Must weigh in at 8 kilos or more! Good for an ugly door stop I suppose.I couldn't believe he carried that stone all the way across the seas and didn't think of buying any other  souvinire. A pair of wooden clogs even.Never saw any opreas here in Budapest.I can thank my SIL for that.In her teens she bought herself a season pass for 2 for the opera.My then preteen husband had to go with her all the time, get dressed up in his suit and listen to the fat lady sing.He hated it so much that he will never see a show again.A concert of rock music, he will jump at going but anything to do with opera or theather he will give a hard pass on.I wanted to see the day time ballet show at Erkil theater in the past. He said I can go by myself.I can't dance to save my life but as a child and as a 22 year old I went to ballet classes for the exercise and fun and for  self control it takes to do it with others .Loved it.Patrick Swayze's mother, Patsy owned and taught at her dance studio in our small town. Simi Valley. My sister took tap lessons from her at her dance studio. When I was 22 I moved back to Simi for about 6 months and went 2 times per week to her free dance classes in a community center in a city park in our town.A long, hard 2 hour class.She was a wonderful teacher and person.She had dreams of being a professional ballet dancer but was too tall, around 5'8".She did more modern dance and tap . She later did the coreography for several movies.I'm tall too, 5'9" so for me she was the perfect role model.There were really only about a dozen or so of us who took advantage of these free classes.Very odd how many people don't reach higher even if something is offered for free to them.        -@Marilyn TassyI feel for your hubby.  No way would I have a season ticket for the opera. I'd rather spend the money on rock and roll. Preferably heavy metal!I quite liked Patrick Swayze.  He wasn't a bad actor and I enjoyed the movie Roadhouse he was the lead in. I didn't know about his mother being a professional dancer. I guess that explains how he managed to do all that stuff.   I guess his peer would have been John Travolta who I also liked as an actor more than a dancer. I saw him in Pulp Fiction (his comeback role) with our No. 1 Fluffyette who was given "homework" to watch it!  Wow, about time schools recognised the importance of visual arts.  Seems our kid has inherited all this interest somewhat from me.  I'm an appreciator but it looks like we'll have a creator as well.  I guess the Abba stone graces your son's place now or is it just lost somewhere over time.  Abba are of course Swedish and not Dutch but I happen to know the Dutch call cobblestones "kinderkopjes" or "children's heads".  I love the Dutch but I don't like that much.  Reminds me of the robots in The Terminator squashing all the skulls of the humans they've destroyed. Looks like dog walking weather.  Bit cold for it but sunny at least.        -@fluffy2560

Well, we are the bigger fools, we have the," Abba Stone "in cold storeage in Vegas along with a bunch of other,"useless" objects.

In reality we just had a storeage unit for my husbands specaial machinst tools but slowly it's filled to the rafters with everything under the sun. Tons of ,"free" casino gifts and do dads.

It kills us to keep paying for those units.

They raise the rent every year and it's getting a bit much.

We are real hoarders it seems.

Patsy Swayzye was a super nice lady.  I only heard she was Patrick's mom at the time from another lady in our classes.

She never bragged about him or had a attitude.

She a few times would put on her toe shoes and show us some moves, it was cool.

I also found out a school mate/semi-friend/fellow girl scout was his step-sister or half sister. Not sure which.

Shannon, she has since passed too.

Nice girl, I feel bad thinking about how I played a part in buillying her in GS camp.

She was trying to be so grown up, we were all around 11 or 12 years old.

She stuffed her bra and bathing suit with TP to look more grown up.

She went to take a shower that was a make shift hose with a shower curtain wrapped around a tree.

When we knew her clothing was off, we pulled down the curtain to let it be known she stuffed her bra.

How mean, I remember she screamed, grabbed her towel and ran off into the woods.

We all felt like scum and tried to make it up to her but the damage was done.

I did tell everyone not to do it but I was there and I also laughed.

Our troop leader was pissed at all of us and very disapointed as she should  of been.

GS, have a code and we broke it.

    Yes, an Abba show would be fun.Took my son to see , "MamaMia" in Las Vegas.We had a good time, sang with all the other loones at the show.I've seen the new Abba production partly on U tube, should be a fun time for an Abba fan.My son ( silly nerd at times but loveable) was so into Abba in his late teens that all day long he blasted their music in the house and I had to sit with him and watch videos of their old shows.He went to Sweden before the Abba museum was built there, to bad he missed that.He however, God knows how he got it through customs, brought back in his suitcase a cobble stone from Sweden where Abba had a photo shoot one time.He dug it up in the middle of the night? Good thing no one saw him or it would of been bad I think, Thankfully the satute of limitations has passed!Must weigh in at 8 kilos or more! Good for an ugly door stop I suppose.I couldn't believe he carried that stone all the way across the seas and didn't think of buying any other  souvinire. A pair of wooden clogs even.Never saw any opreas here in Budapest.I can thank my SIL for that.In her teens she bought herself a season pass for 2 for the opera.My then preteen husband had to go with her all the time, get dressed up in his suit and listen to the fat lady sing.He hated it so much that he will never see a show again.A concert of rock music, he will jump at going but anything to do with opera or theather he will give a hard pass on.I wanted to see the day time ballet show at Erkil theater in the past. He said I can go by myself.I can't dance to save my life but as a child and as a 22 year old I went to ballet classes for the exercise and fun and for  self control it takes to do it with others .Loved it.Patrick Swayze's mother, Patsy owned and taught at her dance studio in our small town. Simi Valley. My sister took tap lessons from her at her dance studio. When I was 22 I moved back to Simi for about 6 months and went 2 times per week to her free dance classes in a community center in a city park in our town.A long, hard 2 hour class.She was a wonderful teacher and person.She had dreams of being a professional ballet dancer but was too tall, around 5'8".She did more modern dance and tap . She later did the coreography for several movies.I'm tall too, 5'9" so for me she was the perfect role model.There were really only about a dozen or so of us who took advantage of these free classes.Very odd how many people don't reach higher even if something is offered for free to them.        -@Marilyn Tassy

I feel for your hubby.  No way would I have a season ticket for the opera. I'd rather spend the money on rock and roll. Preferably heavy metal!

I quite liked Patrick Swayze.  He wasn't a bad actor and I enjoyed the movie Roadhouse he was the lead in. I didn't know about his mother being a professional dancer. I guess that explains how he managed to do all that stuff.   I guess his peer would have been John Travolta who I also liked as an actor more than a dancer. I saw him in Pulp Fiction (his comeback role) with our No. 1 Fluffyette who was given "homework" to watch it!  Wow, about time schools recognised the importance of visual arts.  Seems our kid has inherited all this interest somewhat from me.  I'm an appreciator but it looks like we'll have a creator as well. 

I guess the Abba stone graces your son's place now or is it just lost somewhere over time.  Abba are of course Swedish and not Dutch but I happen to know the Dutch call cobblestones "kinderkopjes" or "children's heads".  I love the Dutch but I don't like that much.  Reminds me of the robots in The Terminator squashing all the skulls of the humans they've destroyed.

Looks like dog walking weather.  Bit cold for it but sunny at least.
   

    -@fluffy2560

They have modernised the laying of cobbled streets in Holland, what used to take days/weeks is now done in a few hours; link here about it.

While we're talking about TV  programmes, Abba and Holland; there's a new series on Dutch TV (SBS6) on Saturday evenings, called The Tribute: Battle of the Bands which I just saw a clip of the Dutch Abba tribute band (link), there are more bits from the programme on YouTube.  I saw a clip from a Bee Gees tribute act that very annoyingly, I can't find anymore; anyway, well worth a watch.

       They have modernised the laying of cobbled streets in Holland, what used to take days/weeks is now done in a few hours; link here about it.While we're talking about TV  programmes, Abba and Holland; there's a new series on Dutch TV (SBS6) on Saturday evenings, called The Tribute: Battle of the Bands which I just saw a clip of the Dutch Abba tribute band (link), there are more bits from the programme on YouTube.  I saw a clip from a Bee Gees tribute act that very annoyingly, I can't find anymore; anyway, well worth a watch.    -@Cynic

They do indeed have machines that do it. I've seen them!  Been around for some years.  They also have brick laying machines.  Our driveway (in HU) is all bricks and was done entirely by hand.  Labour is cheaper than buying a machine.  All the trenches they had to dig here were also done by hand.  The cost of fuel and machine use more than the people.  They only used the digger when they had no choice - for moving pallets and for levelling ground.

I looked at the Tribute Band links they are quite good fakes. Not even imported from China. I saw a Beatles tribute band on YouTube the other day.  You could hardly tell the difference. Musically they sounded exactly the same.   They didn't look anything like them though.  Cannot remember their name unfortunately.

I was always intrigued by the waxing and waning of the band Journey's line up.  The lead singer left and was amazingly replaced by a Filipino singer of a Journey tribute band.  And he sounds almost the same as the original.  So he graduated to the real thing.  Quite something for his CV.  As for the original singer, faded away (in my mind).  Wonder why he left.  He had a great voice. He could have milked it for years.

Well, we are the bigger fools, we have the," Abba Stone "in cold storage in Vegas along with a bunch of other,"useless" objects.
In reality we just had a storage unit for my husbands specail machinist tools but slowly it's filled to the rafters with everything under the sun. Tons of ,"free" casino gifts and do dads.
It kills us to keep paying for those units.
They raise the rent every year and it's getting a bit much.
We are real hoarders it seems.

Patsy Swayze was a super nice lady.  I only heard she was Patrick's mom at the time from another lady in our classes.
She never bragged about him or had a attitude.
She a few times would put on her toe shoes and show us some moves, it was cool.
I also found out a school mate/semi-friend/fellow girl scout was his step-sister or half sister. Not sure which.
Shannon, she has since passed too.
Nice girl, I feel bad thinking about how I played a part in bullying her in GS camp.
She was trying to be so grown up, we were all around 11 or 12 years old.
She stuffed her bra and bathing suit with TP to look more grown up.
She went to take a shower that was a make shift hose with a shower curtain wrapped around a tree.
When we knew her clothing was off, we pulled down the curtain to let it be known she stuffed her bra.
How mean, I remember she screamed, grabbed her towel and ran off into the woods.
We all felt like scum and tried to make it up to her but the damage was done.
I did tell everyone not to do it but I was there and I also laughed.
Our troop leader was pissed at all of us and very disappointed as she should  of been.
GS, have a code and we broke it.
   
    -@Marilyn Tassy

We store our old junk at Mrs F's grandfather's house. It's awful because the amount of crap there overwhelms you and you don't even know where to start.  It must be like how hoarders feel.

We have some stuff you don't know what to do with like a very fancy and expensive TV but it's not flat screen, it's the old type. It's enormous, but essentially junk.  It's such a shame as there's nothing wrong with it.  We could take it to Balaton but there's already a crap TV there too.  No-one wants it.  I guess we'll have to dump it.    We also have old toys, cookers and ovens,  bits of kitchen fittings like brand new worktops unopened in wrapping, quite a few satellite dishes, suitcases, furniture we'll never use, weightlifting machines, bicycles and car parts and boxes of wire and many books.

I don't think I can beat an "Abba stone".  It sounds like  you could hype it up as one of those ancient stones like the Stone of Scone or the Blarney stone.  Or perhaps part of Stonehenge.

I never thought I'd see a post here about bullying Patrick Swayze's sister when in the Girl Scouts.  All those high school dramas I see on TV must be true!

I know, I think honestly that was the only time I was part of a bullying gang.

That sort of low level activity never sat well in my mind. Shannon had been asking for it for days but still...

I usually was getting bullied, at least later on in HS.

Nothing like a huge group of low riders, some Mexican/American not digging your,"Hippie" style.

Yes, my later on friends and I were the school,"werid chicks" made our own clothing or bought them at the Army Surplus, Desert boots and all.

Sort of pre-punk I suppse.

My friends had their ,"uniforms" and I would venture out and sew a funky dress every now and then out of some  old curtain material or something that reminded me of the 30's or 40's.

One friend, Teri who passed n my BD a couple years  ago had  one pair of jeans she wore every single day.

I thought it was dd but her parents spent money on buying her 2 horses and boarding them. I suppose horses were more important then a designer wardrobe.

She added her desert boots and a coulpe of differnt tops and that was it, simple stuff.

Another friend lived with her divorced mother and 2 older brothers. Sweet girl but her mom and bros were terrible,always bothering her.

Her mom worked in a factory and was one of the first people I ever knew to buy a rotery engine Mazda when they first came out.

Her wardrobe was red Converse high tops, basketball shoes , green Army pants and a little top, she did however own a pair of blue jeans too.

I having 2 older sisters had more clothing then needed but I always added my own touch. Stayed up half th night fixing my jeans, stitching them with colored string etc.

Made my own handbags out of knitting materials.

My mother once told me she wanted to take me out for a brand new wardrobe because she thought the neighbors might believe I was being abused!

No ,Army surplus , second hands shops etc. Got into a faze for a couple years of weaing the jacket tops to laides dress suits from the 1940's. Of course with jeans and desert boots.

Patrick's half-step sister had a different surname then he did. Monahan, suppose that's the spelling? She was nice enough, hung with another firend of ours more then with us.

Small town people , seems everyone knew eveyone.

Funny thin is I don't remember her ever dancing.

When I think of all the years we've paid for storage units I can cry. Could of taken a cruise around the wrold for the same price.

My eldest sister talked our mom into string her car for over 7 yeas when she moved to the UK. Mom kept it clean and shinny and my step-dad made sure it was still in good running order.

They got a letter frm her telling them it was time to sell it.

Soon afterwards she and her husband came to the US.

What a waste, they had to buy a car when they arrived.

Never know when these old things could come in handy.

My husband drives me nuts sometimes, he will find an interesting nut or screw laying on the ground and pick it up and put it in his bx of bits and pieces, just in case ...

I have a huge wooden crate in Vegas of nothing but industrial quality nuts, bolts and screws. I know if one bought them one by one they would cost a few bucks each but what we have is overkill.

We can no longer pick them up urselves without help.

My husbands tol box just about gave him a hernia in his yuth picking it up.

Had a garage sale once in Vegas and a guy noticed the tool box inside the garage.

It wasn't for sale but he pressed hard to buy just the box without the tools, Offered almost $400. just for the box.

It's a classic cherry wood box from many years ago. They don't amke them like that any longer.

Just because something is worth a few bucks doesn't mean it going to find a buyer though.

We have an old book in very good condition, in perfect condition it sales on Amazon for around $2,500.

Only a few copies were ever made of it.

Nice leather cover with gold pages and very nice paper was used on it.

I have a 1961 Popeye cooking jar I picked up for $5.00

Was selling online for $300.

Who buys this stuff thoough?

Hard to find the perfect collector .

Our son has the right attitude.

We once asked him to pack sme items we left in a house for us when he was moving to another property.

He just gave our still good nice Sony tv set to the guys he hired to help him move, left a box full of handmade machined copper pipe heads, over 400 of them . Just basiclaly dumped our things in the trash.

Sold a few dozen of those pipe head to a head shop in Vegas but not enough to justify him just dumping the left overs.

Kids, yes I sometimes think we should clobber their heads.

Decided it's too cold today to venture out.

My sister wrote me saying we all shuld move to FL.

IDK, guess the below zero temps in Minn. are getting to her.

Taken from a Facebook group

So, I'm on the train on my way home to Wien from Krems… I hadn't realised I'd bought the ticket on the way back with the Vorteilskarte (I was surprised it cost just 9,90 instead of 18€) PS: I don't have one, just the yearly ticket for Wien.

Anyway, in a rush to catch the train, I haven't paid attention… I just got fined 105 euros for presenting the wrong ticket which is totally unfair in my opinion

Any chance I can complain about it and get at least some of my money back?

What's not fair? They bought the wrong ticket.

People are so entitled these days.

It's not the ticket agents fault they misplaced their ticket.

Reminds me of our first trip to communist Hungary.

We flew from S. Ca. to Vienna.

Back then the trains to Budapest were inspected etc. in the west before entering the ,"Iron Curtain".

No direct flights into Hungary from the west.

That was my first time into Europe and we brought along an active 2 1/2 year old and ( stupid us) 9 pieces of luggage for a 6 week stay.

Back in my ,"Diva Days" needed a differnt outfit for every occasion plus extras for a toddler.

Trip was over we were heading out to the train station to Vienna and to catch our flight to the US.

My husband misplaced our return train tickets.

We had to search every piece of already packed luggage in a hurry.

Couldn't find them anywhere.

Had to buy new tickets .

Of course when we arrived home in Ca. he found the lost tickets in his jacket pocket!!

That's life, people have to learn to deal with it.

    Taken from a Facebook group
So, I'm on the train on my way home to Wien from Krems… I hadn't realised I'd bought the ticket on the way back with the Vorteilskarte (I was surprised it cost just 9,90 instead of 18€) PS: I don't have one, just the yearly ticket for Wien.
Anyway, in a rush to catch the train, I haven't paid attention… I just got fined 105 euros for presenting the wrong ticket which is totally unfair in my opinion
Any chance I can complain about it and get at least some of my money back?

What's not fair? They bought the wrong ticket.
   

    -@SimCityAT

EUR 105 fine seems way too excessive.  Maybe 20 to 40 EUR fine plus the fare difference. 

Our child (<18) got fined something like 8K HUF way back for not having the right ticket on BKV (Budapest buses).   They were behaving like bullies.   They should not have taken any such immediate cash action against a minor.   It would have been better to take a name and address and sent a letter to us. 

    People are so entitled these days.
It's not the ticket agents fault they misplaced their ticket.
Reminds me of our first trip to communist Hungary.
We flew from S. Ca. to Vienna.
Back then the trains to Budapest were inspected etc. in the west before entering the ,"Iron Curtain".
No direct flights into Hungary from the west.
That was my first time into Europe and we brought along an active 2 1/2 year old and ( stupid us) 9 pieces of luggage for a 6 week stay.
Back in my ,"Diva Days" needed a differnt outfit for every occasion plus extras for a toddler.
Trip was over we were heading out to the train station to Vienna and to catch our flight to the US.
My husband misplaced our return train tickets.
We had to search every piece of already packed luggage in a hurry.
Couldn't find them anywhere.
Had to buy new tickets .
Of course when we arrived home in Ca. he found the lost tickets in his jacket pocket!!
That's life, people have to learn to deal with it.

    -@Marilyn Tassy

People still get asked for paper airplane boarding cards so they can get expense claims and refunds approved. But nearly all the airlines use Apps on the phone now and therefore no boarding cards! 

There is usually an  option to e-mail boarding cards though.  So what I do now is get them e-mailed and keep them on my phone but use the App  anyway for day to day use except booking.   Of course one needs a decent amount of battery and a working phone to use it.  I do have  a gripe that many of the cheap airlines do not have seat charging facilities except in long haul.

I feel entitled but it's really about push back on stupid annoyances.  There are so many rules and regulations, it's just really hard to live these days without someone being after you for this and that.   Main complaint I hear here at Fluffy Towers and other people's HQ (about external actors) is "leave me the f*** alone".  I'm trying to limit my reading of the news.  It's just a total wind up each and every day.

I don't get any of that crap these days.  Probably because the local bus and train services are so poor that nobody uses them.  Laughed at the last union strike action, the local FB group reckon they saw no difference in service.  I have to agree with them.

So I guess I'm pretty lucky, I can walk to the Aldi if I had to, and anything else I get from Amazon; if we feel the need, we can drive to the local shopping centre that has plenty of free parking (and a local supermarket gas station), but we only fill the car up once a fortnight and that's about 30 pounds worth for a top up.

    I don't get any of that crap these days.  Probably because the local bus and train services are so poor that nobody uses them.  Laughed at the last union strike action, the local FB group reckon they saw no difference in service.  I have to agree with them.So I guess I'm pretty lucky, I can walk to the Aldi if I had to, and anything else I get from Amazon; if we feel the need, we can drive to the local shopping centre that has plenty of free parking (and a local supermarket gas station), but we only fill the car up once a fortnight and that's about 30 pounds worth for a top up.        -@Cynic

Walking to Aldi.  I wish.  We live a typical suburban life and we drive to most places except walking the dog. We have two kids at home (both teens). 

I work these days mainly from home but if I go anywhere I have to go for extended periods (6-8 weeks not uncommon). It means taking planes and dragging luggage.  Sounds good but it isn't - one place always looks about the same as another. 

I feel like I don't want to go to these places these days - been there, done that for so many years now.  Some of these places are a tad dangerous (always street smarts needed, no night activities) and some are just plain boring as hell (small places, nothing to see).  On the positive side I do get to see a lot of stuff and meet a lot of people.  Once in a while it can be interesting but the work is always the same and now these past years seems repetitive. I keep thinking I should retire but I haven't quite reached retirement age yet.   I've still got about 3 years to go.

p.s.  one upside of working from home is I made mini-Bakewell tarts this arvo

I mentioned previously that I'd recently got a new Costco card.  Just got some information through, the Costco site in Leeds has a Petrol station - it's 20p a litre cheaper than the local garage!

   
    I don't get any of that crap these days.  Probably because the local bus and train services are so poor that nobody uses them.  Laughed at the last union strike action, the local FB group reckon they saw no difference in service.  I have to agree with them.So I guess I'm pretty lucky, I can walk to the Aldi if I had to, and anything else I get from Amazon; if we feel the need, we can drive to the local shopping centre that has plenty of free parking (and a local supermarket gas station), but we only fill the car up once a fortnight and that's about 30 pounds worth for a top up.        -@Cynic

Walking to Aldi.  I wish.  We live a typical suburban life and we drive to most places except walking the dog. We have two kids at home (both teens). 

I work these days mainly from home but if I go anywhere I have to go for extended periods (6-8 weeks not uncommon). It means taking planes and dragging luggage.  Sounds good but it isn't - one place always looks about the same as another. 

I feel like I don't want to go to these places these days - been there, done that for so many years now.  Some of these places are a tad dangerous (always street smarts needed, no night activities) and some are just plain boring as hell (small places, nothing to see).  On the positive side I do get to see a lot of stuff and meet a lot of people.  Once in a while it can be interesting but the work is always the same and now these past years seems repetitive. I keep thinking I should retire but I haven't quite reached retirement age yet.   I've still got about 3 years to go.




p.s.  one upside of working from home is I made mini-Bakewell tarts this arvo
   

    -@fluffy2560

This pretty much describes my whole working life - from 1985 to when I retired I had a house, but was very rarely there, USA, Canada, Germany, Denmark, Norway, France, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Belize, and Australia were my workplaces in the last 10 years while serving, then I left and my patch was the whole of the UK and Ireland.

p.s. cooking, I'm pretty good with the slow cooker and recently we bought a hot air cooker.  We're having the whole family around on Thursday night, they heard I was making my Chili Con Carne special and they invited themselves.

I can't remember when we last put petrol in our car, still have a good half tank.

Only use it for days like today when we go over to Tesco or once in awhile another shop close by but far enough away to justify using the car.

We have both Aldi and Lidl just walking distance from our flat.

Tesco is for picking up heavy items like water in a 6 pack or bottles  of this or that.

Wasn't too busy today inside there at all.

They lately as we nticed have one side of the escalator shut off.

No biggie as I usually walk up the side that isn't working just to use my legs a bit more, "cheap thrills" .

Today however it wasn't working too get to our car parked ont he 2nd level so we used the lift a few yards away to be able to take the cart down all the way to our car.

Shared the lift down with a women. She probably was in her mid 40's but hard to tell.

More plastic then human.

Those full duck lips, raised eyebrows, shinny skin like it had been worked on. Gel nails, and to top it off a fake but nice looking chinchilla short coat.

Scary , if I were a young dude I'd be terrified...

I must look up how much a real chinchilla jacket costs.

I'd bet over $10,000 if it was cut the rght way.

Funny thing is, in 2000 I had a choice between getting some minor skin laser wrk done under my eyes and above my lip ( raised in S. Ca. and lived for years under the Hawaiian sun) or buying a fox fur coat I liked.( PS, not worth the pain to get laser surgery,only lasts a year or so)

I passed on the coat.

A few years later while walking near a second hand shop, I found the exact fut coat that I was thinking of buying for sale.

Whopping price of $10.00! ( it had been over $500. brand new)

I looked online as to how to clean the fur and did it. Came out smelling like a rose and the fur was all nice a fluffy.

I now belive if you invision something hard enough, it will come to you.

Whatever you think will happen can happen.

I need to think more on winning the lotto!

    I mentioned previously that I'd recently got a new Costco card.  Just got some information through, the Costco site in Leeds has a Petrol station - it's 20p a litre cheaper than the local garage!
   

    -@Cynic

Wow, that's really significant. 

I saw on the news they will have near real time pump pricing soon.  That's good of course.  I believe trains are doing experiments like that. Airlines have been doing that for years.

Our local self-service petrol station is slightly more expensive than Aldi (yes, we have an Aldi petrol station) but the Aldi one is quite far away - like 6km. It's not worth driving there unless one is going in that direction anyway,

I'm not a great believer in these special blends they push in big brand petrol stations.  They cost more so any saving is going to be offset. Will it make any real difference on consumption?  I don't think so and it makes no sense.  It just burns up the same as the normal ones.

Just knew today was going to be a shit day, full of a stinking cold so in a bad mood, got a couple of appointments today and I've only arrived 2 hours early. At least there is cafe nextdoor.

Oh well better to early than late.

    Just knew today was going to be a shit day, full of a stinking cold so in a bad mood, got a couple of appointments today and I've only arrived 2 hours early. At least there is cafe nextdoor.Oh well better to early than late.        -@SimCityAT

Vitamin D and C will boost your immune system.

Many more suppliments and foods will help to but those are the basics.

Garlic raw will clear out a cold faster then an OTC drug will.

I haven't tried it yet, keep forgetting to mix it up and set it askide but...

Raw garlic bulbs in a jar of honey is suppose to fix any flu/cold straight away.

Have to turn tthe jar  over several times per day for a few weeks.

This mix can keep for years. No need to mix daily after the first few weeks, just wen you think of it.

When you are feeling low, just chew on some of the garlic pieces.

We know a HU guy who never seemed to  have a GF.

No wonder though, he had a ritual of eating raw garlic about once a week. That's all he ate on his garlic days.. He reeked but never was ill.

He has since gotten married and has children so maybe his wife liked the smell or he changed his habits?IDK.

An old HU wives tale is to eat garlic on dry toast and have some steaming hot tea with wine inside when you're ill.

Vitamin D and C will boost your immune system.
Many more supplements and foods will help to but those are the basics.
Garlic raw will clear out a cold faster then an OTC drug will.
I haven't tried it yet, keep forgetting to mix it up and set it aside but...
Raw garlic bulbs in a jar of honey is suppose to fix any flu/cold straight away.
Have to turn the jar  over several times per day for a few weeks.
This mix can keep for years. No need to mix daily after the first few weeks, just when you think of it.
When you are feeling low, just chew on some of the garlic pieces.
We know a HU guy who never seemed to  have a GF.
No wonder though, he had a ritual of eating raw garlic about once a week. That's all he ate on his garlic days.. He reeked but never was ill.
He has since gotten married and has children so maybe his wife liked the smell or he changed his habits?IDK.
An old HU wives tale is to eat garlic on dry toast and have some steaming hot tea with wine inside when you're ill.

    -@Marilyn Tassy

Overdoing vitamins is as bad as having too few.

I had a colleague who ate raw garlic.  Jeez, did he stink!  He had to be told not to do that or to do it at weekends and not come to the office fuming up the place.  On the other hand I had another one who was drinking vodka all day in a coffee cup.   Like we didn't notice!  I know who was more dangerous.

There's a condition called Essential Tremor (ET).  It's familial - runs in families.  My mother had it and one of my brother has it.  Katherine Hepburn famously had it - it's how her voice was characteristically "shaky".   It says alcohol is one way of controlling it.  Sounds potentially good but the amount one would have to drink would be very damaging but might improve morale.   I did have a sip of wine the other day. It was OK but I didn't really find it something I would have to have to control ET.   

One of my relatives had a wound that wasn't healing (she had appendicitis and this was from the surgery).  She was told to put honey on it.  Amazingly it seems to have fixed it quickly. 

I am not sure if there's a cure for today's weather induced fecklessness. If there is, I need it asap. I keep feeling I need to watch an old movie from the 1960s.

           They have modernised the laying of cobbled streets in Holland, what used to take days/weeks is now done in a few hours; link here about it.While we're talking about TV  programmes, Abba and Holland; there's a new series on Dutch TV (SBS6) on Saturday evenings, called The Tribute: Battle of the Bands which I just saw a clip of the Dutch Abba tribute band (link), there are more bits from the programme on YouTube.  I saw a clip from a Bee Gees tribute act that very annoyingly, I can't find anymore; anyway, well worth a watch.    -@CynicThey do indeed have machines that do it. I've seen them!  Been around for some years.  They also have brick laying machines.  Our driveway (in HU) is all bricks and was done entirely by hand.  Labour is cheaper than buying a machine.  All the trenches they had to dig here were also done by hand.  The cost of fuel and machine use more than the people.  They only used the digger when they had no choice - for moving pallets and for levelling ground.I looked at the Tribute Band links they are quite good fakes. Not even imported from China. I saw a Beatles tribute band on YouTube the other day.  You could hardly tell the difference. Musically they sounded exactly the same.   They didn't look anything like them though.  Cannot remember their name unfortunately.I was always intrigued by the waxing and waning of the band Journey's line up.  The lead singer left and was amazingly replaced by a Filipino singer of a Journey tribute band.  And he sounds almost the same as the original.  So he graduated to the real thing.  Quite something for his CV.  As for the original singer, faded away (in my mind).  Wonder why he left.  He had a great voice. He could have milked it for years.        -@fluffy2560

Hah - found it (the Bee Gees link; link.  Tribute acts seem to be the thing these days; last year we went to York Theatre house and saw an 80's tribute act, they could do outstanding renditions of Duran Duran, Spandau Ballet, lots and lots; this year the same band have rejigged a tribute to War of the Worlds.  I was a massive Journey fan; they did a good cover on Glee (my daughter was glued to it in her teens); from which another good cover, this time an interesting production of something Bon Jovi had a hit with, (link).  Last but not least, Rod Steward doing a cover of himself (link), but this time with the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra behind him, I find it stunning, the quality of the musicianship is so good.

    Taken from a Facebook group
So, I'm on the train on my way home to Wien from Krems… I hadn't realised I'd bought the ticket on the way back with the Vorteilskarte (I was surprised it cost just 9,90 instead of 18€) PS: I don't have one, just the yearly ticket for Wien.
Anyway, in a rush to catch the train, I haven't paid attention… I just got fined 105 euros for presenting the wrong ticket which is totally unfair in my opinion
Any chance I can complain about it and get at least some of my money back?

What's not fair? They bought the wrong ticket.
   

    -@SimCityAT

Aha, this did not changed then since I lived there.

Many fines in Austria exactly 105 Euros because that can be enforced on any EU citizen in any country.

    Vitamin D and C will boost your immune system.Many more supplements and foods will help to but those are the basics.Garlic raw will clear out a cold faster then an OTC drug will.I haven't tried it yet, keep forgetting to mix it up and set it aside but...Raw garlic bulbs in a jar of honey is suppose to fix any flu/cold straight away.Have to turn the jar  over several times per day for a few weeks.This mix can keep for years. No need to mix daily after the first few weeks, just when you think of it.When you are feeling low, just chew on some of the garlic pieces.We know a HU guy who never seemed to  have a GF.No wonder though, he had a ritual of eating raw garlic about once a week. That's all he ate on his garlic days.. He reeked but never was ill.He has since gotten married and has children so maybe his wife liked the smell or he changed his habits?IDK.An old HU wives tale is to eat garlic on dry toast and have some steaming hot tea with wine inside when you're ill.    -@Marilyn Tassy

Overdoing vitamins is as bad as having too few.

I had a colleague who ate raw garlic.  Jeez, did he stink!  He had to be told not to do that or to do it at weekends and not come to the office fuming up the place.  On the other hand I had another one who was drinking vodka all day in a coffee cup.   Like we didn't notice!  I know who was more dangerous.

There's a condition called Essential Tremor (ET).  It's familial - runs in families.  My mother had it and one of my brother has it.  Katherine Hepburn famously had it - it's how her voice was characteristically "shaky".   It says alcohol is one way of controlling it.  Sounds potentially good but the amount one would have to drink would be very damaging but might improve morale.   I did have a sip of wine the other day. It was OK but I didn't really find it something I would have to have to control ET.   

One of my relatives had a wound that wasn't healing (she had appendicitis and this was from the surgery).  She was told to put honey on it.  Amazingly it seems to have fixed it quickly. 

I am not sure if there's a cure for today's weather induced fecklessness. If there is, I need it asap. I keep feeling I need to watch an old movie from the 1960s.
   

    -@fluffy2560

Humans hardly capable to overdoing vitamins.

That only possible in a very extended time frame and non-proper eating/ drinking habits (lack of fats for examle).

I do have my favorite mix, and some vitamins included are 60X the "advised daily dose". Anno my dude said: "Buy it before they ban it." But t is not banned up to date.

There are a few genetical problems/ birth defect which are exceptions, like I know a girl who cannot consume vitamin C (well actiually can but with side effects), so she permanently have Scurvy in her entire life, which in turn leads to various health problems.

Another problem is the cosumer/ producer in non--medical fields:

A sugar free multivitamin/ reduced energy soft drinks + certain vitamins = poison/ cancer.

Or when someone takes 1000 mg vitamin C + any sugar free drinks.

Aha, this did not changed then since I lived there.
Many fines in Austria exactly 105 Euros because that can be enforced on any EU citizen in any country.
   

    -@sjbabilon5

Why is 105 EUR a limit of enforceable fine regarding EU citizens?

BTW, side comment and a Brexit benefit:  If one hold an EU driving license, speeding fines incurred in the UK are apparently no longer being enforced in the UK. 

Humans hardly capable to overdoing vitamins.
That only possible in a very extended time frame and non-proper eating/ drinking habits (lack of fats for examle).

I do have my favorite mix, and some vitamins included are 60X the "advised daily dose". Anno my dude said: "Buy it before they ban it." But t is not banned up to date.

There are a few genetical problems/ birth defect which are exceptions, like I know a girl who cannot consume vitamin C (well actually can but with side effects), so she permanently have Scurvy in her entire life, which in turn leads to various health problems.

Another problem is the cosumer/ producer in non--medical fields:
A sugar free multivitamin/ reduced energy soft drinks + certain vitamins = poison/ cancer.
Or when someone takes 1000 mg vitamin C + any sugar free drinks.
   
    -@sjbabilon5

There are cases of Vitamin D (and K) poisoning every day.  Rare in humans but achievable but common in rats daily.   Apparently it's how rat poison works.  We had to use some rat poison a while back and I remember reading the warnings about it.  If people get enough sunlight, they don't need any supplements.

Excess Vitamin C is just excreted as far as I remember.  So too much is a waste of time.

Energy drinks are quite likely to be banned - at least for children.  I think they are already banned (for children) in Poland.   Never had any myself so no experience.  Never understood the attraction of those things.

Like anything you can overdose if you take too much of it.

Hah - found it (the Bee Gees link; link.  Tribute acts seem to be the thing these days; last year we went to York Theatre house and saw an 80's tribute act, they could do outstanding renditions of Duran Duran, Spandau Ballet, lots and lots; this year the same band have rejigged a tribute to War of the Worlds.  I was a massive Journey fan; they did a good cover on Glee (my daughter was glued to it in her teens); from which another good cover, this time an interesting production of something Bon Jovi had a hit with, (link).  Last but not least, Rod Steward doing a cover of himself (link), but this time with the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra behind him, I find it stunning, the quality of the musicianship is so good.
   
    -@Cynic

Ah, the Bee Gees.  They crop up so many times.  Stayin' Alive was used as incidental music in a scene in last night's dose of Netflix's Money Heist: Berlin.   

I'm told that's the beat to use when doing CPR - easy to remember.

Rod Stewart's interest in model railways is quite something to see.  I have a colleague who is into the same. 

I do think Rod is under appreciated.  He's had so many hits and does good shows from what I've seen online - delivers for his fans.

    Like anything you can overdose if you take too much of it.
   

    -@SimCityAT

I think so. 

Imagine being forced to watch all episodes of Eastenders or Coronation Street.

I am very sure my taking suppliments helped heal me from a serious illness.

I refused any surgery, later was told never needed surgery, like thank God I listened to myslef and not the doctors. Why do they mislead people?

I told them no and walked out. They really did a number on my mind though.

I would of offed myself if they pressed for surgery, it was radical. Can't even speak of it or I might cry.

I don't overtake any vitmains, but did a strict regement of some odd ones.

Couldn't find red alge here in Hungary, or really even online.

That can be dangerous in the wrong amoounts.

AHCC, NAC,  ALA,black seed oil, Neem products. I mean I took ones not found at the normal health food shops. Products made by bees such a Bee flour .Fower buds which bees had pollenated. Propolis drops from bees too.

All sorts of herbal teas and a combo of all sorts of mushrooms. Sadly, none of them were magic!  Well, perhaps they were but no buzz from them.

I refuse to even listen to Rod Stewart any longer.

I was a huge fan back in the day when he was with the Faces. Saw them in my teens with a group of friends, great concert.

In 1975 on a hot summers days in S.Ca.

We atteneded a day long concert in a stadium with a bunch of,"super groups".

I don't remember them all but Fleetwd Mac played a nice long set.

Rod was suppse to close the concert.

I was 5 or so months pregnant and sitting with the beating sun overhead all day long was hard but I really wanted to see Rod.

Dam him, he comes on stage, sings for less then 30 seconds and walks off.

End of concert!

He said the sound quailty wasn't up to pare for him, like he's so much better then Fleetwood Mac and all the others who played before him?

He went from hero to zero for me and I never listen to him any longer.

I guess I can hold a grudge?

    Hah - found it (the Bee Gees link; link.  Tribute acts seem to be the thing these days; last year we went to York Theatre house and saw an 80's tribute act, they could do outstanding renditions of Duran Duran, Spandau Ballet, lots and lots; this year the same band have rejigged a tribute to War of the Worlds.  I was a massive Journey fan; they did a good cover on Glee (my daughter was glued to it in her teens); from which another good cover, this time an interesting production of something Bon Jovi had a hit with, (link).  Last but not least, Rod Steward doing a cover of himself (link), but this time with the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra behind him, I find it stunning, the quality of the musicianship is so good.        -@Cynic

Ah, the Bee Gees.  They crop up so many times.  Stayin' Alive was used as incidental music in a scene in last night's dose of Netflix's Money Heist: Berlin.   

I'm told that's the beat to use when doing CPR - easy to remember.

Rod Stewart's interest in model railways is quite something to see.  I have a colleague who is into the same. 

I do think Rod is under appreciated.  He's had so many hits and does good shows from what I've seen online - delivers for his fans.
   

    -@fluffy2560

The Bee Gees have been involved in so many musical projects that I wasn't aware of until more recently.

Unfortunately, I think Rods voice is simply getting old, just before Christmas he was interviewed and aluded to this being the reason why he's stopped doing the rock & roll he's famous for and has switched to Swing music.  That link I gave to his song with the Orchestra came from an album he did that used the original vocal tracks he did all those years ago, then overlaid/mixed/autotuned with the orchestra to get what you saw.

When I did my CPR course, we used Nellie the Elephant as the cadence; my wife tells me the most important thing is to keep going, you're doing it because the heart has stopped and you're not going to hurt the victim by getting the timing wrong by a few seconds; it's very tiring, there is no shame in handing over to another (less tired) person.  My wife tells me that it was a discussion point amongst the nursing team as to how many had actually used CPR; except for the annual training on Resus Annie only a few had ever needed it, my wife being one of them.

CPR...

Back in the 1980's I was in a grocery store checking out.

Over the PA system the store manger asked if anyone knew CPR because an older gent was outside the store and needed help.

I had just taken a CPR course on my own with the Red Cross a few months beforehand.

My Irianian friends little son almost drown in our community pool and no one knew CPR.

I wasn't there when that happened to him but it hit me that someone , one of the many parnets at the pool should be able to do it if ever needed.

I had the time and drive to learn CPR.  Thanks to God my son's friend was fine but it was a huge scare.

Ok, so no one was coming forward at the store to help this man.

I really didn't want to make a big show of myself but thought OK< it's been a min and no one is coming to his aid.

I told the check-out clerk to watch my paid for cart of food while I went out to see what was going on.

I suppose I was in my mid 20's and had on some nice, brand new Guess jeans that I really didn't want to mess up by getting on the ground on my knees but that's being a vain 20 something  year old. I still did it, although I kept thinking , dam  I don't want holes in the knees. The thoughts that cross ones mind.

Saw a sloppy dressed man who was overweight and needed a shave laying on the ground with a younger man giving him chest compressions.

The guy asked me to just give him air between compressions.

It was horrible, I felt the older man's spirit leave the body.

It wasn't working at all.

Some black bile was coming out of his mouth.

Just when I had enough a nurse ran over to take my place.

Ambulance came and off he went.

The next day I went back to the stre too ask about what happened to the man.

Told he died. Wasn't a nice feeling at all, we all tried our best.

It bothered my husband so much that he almost went to the store to scream at the store manager. He said the store should of carried a mouth guard or had someone working inside the store to do such a thing.

AIDs was running wild and at the time no one knew how it was spread. My hsuband was so afriad I might of gotten the virus from the old guy by doing mouth to mouth.

That thought also crossed my mind when I was thinking of my new jeans.

I gave it up to God and said to myslef I was put there at that time for a reason and if I got ill then it was his will. I will always help a stranger if I can.

My husband had me rinse my mouth out every 5 mins and refused to kiss me for many days afterwards.

I also figured by the guys looks that he was a regular family man and wasn't a possible AIDs patient.

Man, it not easy to have to make a judgement call because of someones looks and age.

After the nurse took over for me, a couple of ladies walked over to me to say  they also tried to help the man inside the drug store before he fell outside.

They noticed his face was very red and flushed and offered him a heart pill. He was very rude with them and just walked out where he collapsed.

Everyone was telling me how great I was for helping, I sure didn't feel very great. The nurse was the great one, no way was I going to give him any more mouth to mouth after that bile came up.

    CPR...
Back in the 1980's I was in a grocery store checking out.
Over the PA system the store manger asked if anyone knew CPR because an older gent was outside the store and needed help.
I had just taken a CPR course on my own with the Red Cross a few months beforehand.
My Irianian friends little son almost drown in our community pool and no one knew CPR.
I wasn't there when that happened to him but it hit me that someone , one of the many parnets at the pool should be able to do it if ever needed.
I had the time and drive to learn CPR.  Thanks to God my son's friend was fine but it was a huge scare.
Ok, so no one was coming forward at the store to help this man.
I really didn't want to make a big show of myself but thought OK< it's been a min and no one is coming to his aid.
I told the check-out clerk to watch my paid for cart of food while I went out to see what was going on.
I suppose I was in my mid 20's and had on some nice, brand new Guess jeans that I really didn't want to mess up by getting on the ground on my knees but that's being a vain 20 something  year old. I still did it, although I kept thinking , dam  I don't want holes in the knees. The thoughts that cross ones mind.
Saw a sloppy dressed man who was overweight and needed a shave laying on the ground with a younger man giving him chest compressions.
The guy asked me to just give him air between compressions.
It was horrible, I felt the older man's spirit leave the body.
It wasn't working at all.
Some black bile was coming out of his mouth.
Just when I had enough a nurse ran over to take my place.
Ambulance came and off he went.
The next day I went back to the stre too ask about what happened to the man.
Told he died. Wasn't a nice feeling at all, we all tried our best.
It bothered my husband so much that he almost went to the store to scream at the store manager. He said the store should of carried a mouth guard or had someone working inside the store to do such a thing.
AIDs was running wild and at the time no one knew how it was spread. My hsuband was so afriad I might of gotten the virus from the old guy by doing mouth to mouth.
That thought also crossed my mind when I was thinking of my new jeans.
I gave it up to God and said to myslef I was put there at that time for a reason and if I got ill then it was his will. I will always help a stranger if I can.
My husband had me rinse my mouth out every 5 mins and refused to kiss me for many days afterwards.
I also figured by the guys looks that he was a regular family man and wasn't a possible AIDs patient.
Man, it not easy to have to make a judgement call because of someones looks and age.
After the nurse took over for me, a couple of ladies walked over to me to say  they also tried to help the man inside the drug store before he fell outside.
They noticed his face was very red and flushed and offered him a heart pill. He was very rude with them and just walked out where he collapsed.
Everyone was telling me how great I was for helping, I sure didn't feel very great. The nurse was the great one, no way was I going to give him any more mouth to mouth after that bile came up.
   

    -@Marilyn Tassy

Wow, that's quite a story.  It was good you had a go at it.   Seems like you have hidden talents.

You could have saved him under different circumstances but looks like he was too far gone anyway.   He obviously had heart trouble and was suffering and was feeling awful and probably didn't mean to be rude.     

You are right about the mouth guard and so on.  In the UK defibrillators are in quite a few places and are usually accessible in an emergency - they use old phone boxes as locations or they are just mounted on walls in obvious places. I've never seen anyone use one but apparently they are very automatic and do everything via voice prompts etc so all you need do is attach the cables to the victim.  Different times from your experience.  I've never  seen a public emergency defibrillator in Hungary.  Maybe there are some, like at the airport or football stadium etc.

I actually want my kids to know how to do that stuff.  It's like life skills.  Two of them are really squeamish and faint or go nauseous at the sight of blood.  One of them thought about doing medicine at university and joined St John's Ambulance (volunteer ambulance service in the UK) but decided against studying that subject and did something else.  The other one is still too young.

I noticed a Defibrillator hung up on the wall inside Tesco in Arena Plaza.

I'd guess all their stores have them now days.

I'm one of those people that always searches out the emergency exits, best way to avoid a crowd etc.

I wanted to be a flight attendant or nurse or hard to believe, a policewomen many years ago.

I actually wanted to be a simple meter maid as they used to call them. Drive around on my 3 wheeled scooter and give out parking tickets.

Sorry , folks, wanted to be one of THEM.  It passed and I no longer wanted to do such work.

In High School a boy often would come over during lunch time to tell us all about what happened  in his jr. medic training.

He'd ride along and help out with medics in an ambulance.

Perfect timing, during lunch to share his horror tales.

We avoided

him when possible.

I even thought for a moment of being a nurse in the military.

Blood, I can see my own blood but seeing someone else's makes my head spin.

My father was a medic in WW11 in the S. Pacific.

He had to help during surgeries with giving the anesthesia.

He'd wake up on the floor with cold water all over himself.

He'd pass out and the surgeon would have to pour a bucket of water on him to wake him up and have help in surgery.

Dad disliked the sight of blood so much he's turn pale if we scrapped our knees playing and tell us to see our mother.

His big plan was to get the US gov. to pay for his medical training after the war and become a doctor.

He was smart enough but he couldn't take seeing blood or anyone in pain.

Yes, it was sad about that man dying with so many people trying to help him.

The 2 ladies that spoke with me said he was turning red in the face inside the store, they told him to sit down and they wanted to give him water and a heart pill. He told them to leave him alone and walked out of the store.

I suppose he wasn't thinking clearly and was confussed.

I was upset about it for a long while.

I felt badly for his family and hopped that if anyone i cared about ever needed aid that someone wuld be willing to help out.

     I noticed a Defibrillator hung up on the wall inside Tesco in Arena Plaza.
I'd guess all their stores have them now days.
I'm one of those people that always searches out the emergency exits, best way to avoid a crowd etc.
I wanted to be a flight attendant or nurse or hard to believe, a policewomen many years ago.
I actually wanted to be a simple meter maid as they used to call them. Drive around on my 3 wheeled scooter and give out parking tickets.
Sorry , folks, wanted to be one of THEM.  It passed and I no longer wanted to do such work.
In High School a boy often would come over during lunch time to tell us all about what happened  in his jr. medic training.
He'd ride along and help out with medics in an ambulance.
Perfect timing, during lunch to share his horror tales.
We avoided
him when possible.
I even thought for a moment of being a nurse in the military.
Blood, I can see my own blood but seeing someone else's makes my head spin.

My father was a medic in WW11 in the S. Pacific.
He had to help during surgeries with giving the anesthesia.
He'd wake up on the floor with cold water all over himself.
He'd pass out and the surgeon would have to pour a bucket of water on him to wake him up and have help in surgery.
Dad disliked the sight of blood so much he's turn pale if we scrapped our knees playing and tell us to see our mother.
His big plan was to get the US gov. to pay for his medical training after the war and become a doctor.
He was smart enough but he couldn't take seeing blood or anyone in pain.
Yes, it was sad about that man dying with so many people trying to help him.
The 2 ladies that spoke with me said he was turning red in the face inside the store, they told him to sit down and they wanted to give him water and a heart pill. He told them to leave him alone and walked out of the store.
I suppose he wasn't thinking clearly and was confused.
I was upset about it for a long while.
I felt badly for his family and hopped that if anyone i cared about ever needed aid that someone would be willing to help out.
   

    -@Marilyn Tassy

There's a word for fear of blood - Hemophobia.  Two of my kids have that. I don't have that but when I get needles stuck in me I don't like to look at it but I will look without problems when it's in.  Not that it happens very often.  I've only had a cannula in my hand twice in my 63 years. And long may I continue not to have needles in my arms/hands.

My eldest didn't want the responsibility of people's lives. I suppose if death surrounds you, it'd be traumatic initially and then you'd get hardened to it. But  I could easily stick needles in other people or stitch them up without a problem.   People can get used to anything. 

I'm glad to know Tesco have defibrillators on the wall.  They are everywhere in the UK so perhaps Tesco is following HQ orders by having them available.  They don't have them in Aldi or Lidl or Spar as far as I know.

I can think of better careers than driving around on a scooter giving out parking tickets!  But I admire your dedication to public service.  I have developed quite a lot of disdain for civil servants despite having been one for a period (in the military) and working with them regularly. 

I was in a government office recently  and they all cleared off at 5pm.  Like WTF? I work and I am on call almost 24x7.  I was saying to Mrs F that I chose the wrong job.   That said I can plan my own day. I watched a "Romeo and Juliet" movie this afternoon - called Warm Bodies. It was quite good. I worked on a job in Geneva once. We were in a bank and we used to watch Bewitched at lunch time while eating our McDonalds.

I was reading earlier on  today Snoop Dog's daughter had a stroke at 24. Who the hell is Snoop Dog anyway? And who is his daughter? Well who knows?!  But anyway, I was reading the symptoms.  I had some familiarity with the symptoms but there are other less well known symptoms. 

Reason I mention it was that I was talking to my Dad on a Skype video call a while back and I am pretty sure he had a stroke just before or during my call.  I did call his helpers and he was able to bluff his way around it and they thought he was passable. But if I had been a bit more familiar with some of the more unusual symptoms,  I would have insisted he was taken to the hospital but he was such an old fella, they wouldn't have been able to help him more.  My MIL had a stroke maybe a year ago but there was nothing they can do about it. 

I guess what I'm getting to, the guy with the heart attack, there's nothing you could have done more than you did.   If he was going to go, he was going to go regardless of what anyone could do for him.

I hope the store clerks know how to use the defibrillators.

It's located at the return desk hanging up on the wall.

Just in case...

Perhaps shops like Aldi and Lidl have them hiddeen somehwere.

I got my rear pinched entering a Lidl store and the same day those perves got into a fist fight on the ground inside the store. I don't think the Lidl staff get involved in any personal issues happening inside the store. Heart attack and they would just keep walking on...They don't notice anything.Or more like they dont want to.

I had a blood test about 2 weeks ago. Still sore in one arm and black and blue on the other.

A new women drew the blood, first I offered my left arm, Never in my life did a stick hurt that much. She must of hit a nerve because the pain that shot in my left hand was crazy. I never make a sound when getting poked but this time I did moan. My hand twitched too.

She missed my vain and went for the right arm next!

She needed allot more experience because I've been poked in the past and never even knew they were finished, it was so painfree.

I get jabbed for blood every 6 months min.

What do they do with all that blood, I'm sure they only need a few drops for a test.

Probably make slides for schools with the extra?

Perhaps some princess is taking a bath in all that blood? Facials at least?

Just trippin,' more like for a medical school slide.

My eldest sister really wanted to be a nurse when she was 17.

They had a club in the 60's not sure they still have it called, "The Candy Stripes" ( Not strippers) teenage girls who volunteered at hospitals as a greeter, showing people where to go and pouring water to patients in their rooms reading to them etc.

They wore a candy stripped apron.

Well my mom for some reason really didn't want my sister to be a nurse.

IDK why not.

Mom came up with a radical plan to turn her off to the idea.

Mom called the charge nurse at a country- welfare run sort of hospital in a bad neighborhood in downtown LA. (where they operated on my husbands arm years later, nightmare!!)

The nurse made an appointment with my mother and sister to show her around for an hour or so and let her see the real deal of being a new nurse.

Started with the bed pans, the barf trays and seeing them wash people.

All I remember is my sister running in the front door with tears pouring down her face.

She said her dream was over with.

She had a shock seeing the worst of things first.

That was very odd for our mother to do that, gosh nurses make a killing in the US. Double time pay and all.

Mom had wanted to become a nurse during WW11 but was underage. Her 2 aunts refused to sign for her to go. They told her only, "low women" are alone with so many young men. Like hanky-panky is on the mind f someone in a life or death situation. Mom 's family had an over active mind.

My father had the wrng idea about things at times too.

In 1975 when I was about to move to Maui my father told my mother and step-father to stop me from ging there.

He said, quote," Hawaii is full of bars and wh@@@ houses".

Well, dad, I guess we all know what you were up to during the war years!

He never spoke up much abut how mom did things with us but he was serisouly upset about me moving to Hawaii.

I never saw or stepped into any bars and never personally saw a huse of ill repute!

I can imgine though Honolulu back in 1944, must of been wild with so much military there.

Snope Dog, heard of him but most of these new,"artists" I have no clue as to who they are.

24 is too young to stroke out, might be more to the story like drugs?