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fluffy2560 wrote:

SimCityAT wrote:

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For those that are already here won't have a problem, it will be those want to move over will have a fee to pay, possibly obtain a visa. No one will be kicked out.

It's going to be a major hassle.  Two speed citizens - those with  and those without - even those with property and relatives here.   It's just going to be nightmare with queuing for passport stamps ad-infinitum.  Pages and pages of stamps and a passport cost every 2 years. Terrible.

Who says we will need stamps?

SimCityAT wrote:

fluffy2560 wrote:

SimCityAT wrote:

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For those that are already here won't have a problem, it will be those want to move over will have a fee to pay, possibly obtain a visa. No one will be kicked out.

It's going to be a major hassle.  Two speed citizens - those with  and those without - even those with property and relatives here.   It's just going to be nightmare with queuing for passport stamps ad-infinitum.  Pages and pages of stamps and a passport cost every 2 years. Terrible.

Who says we will need stamps?

I know what you mean.

But everyone in Hungary expects stamps on their documents. 

Doesn't matter if you need them or not, you're going to have them and tough!

We might even need visas.  That would be truly a disaster.

Some people do watch too many tv shows, Hula skirts, cowboy boots and machine guns,done all that but not at the same time. Even played the violin as a beginner....Funny.

I would hope that if they have people going to immigration for stamps, visas etc. with Brexit they will organize it and have a plan in order to save time for everyone.
Maybe going district by district or opening up temp. offices in local city halls.
I ran to immigration services over a dozen times sitting for hours in that nasty hot room, still alive, didn't kill me although at the time I thought it would. Gotta love that xanax... sometimes it does come in handy.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

Some people do watch too many tv shows, Hula skirts, cowboy boots and machine guns,done all that but not at the same time. Even played the violin as a beginner....Funny.

I would hope that if they have people going to immigration for stamps, visas etc. with Brexit they will organize it and have a plan in order to save time for everyone.
Maybe going district by district or opening up temp. offices in local city halls.
I ran to immigration services over a dozen times sitting for hours in that nasty hot room, still alive, didn't kill me although at the time I thought it would. Gotta love that xanax... sometimes it does come in handy.

I remember queueing up way back in about 1995.  It  was a horrible place really.  I got the impression that they had a system of paperwork which was  not really fit for purpose. I had not got a clue what they were doing.  But the rest is history, I was processed and still hanging around in Hungary..

Yes, not a place to even send your worst enemy.
So many "oddballs" inside there and I'm not just talking about the employees.
Several times while heading for the ladies room, men would be coming out the door... OK, can't even figure out a female or male image on the door, really high I.Q. people coming in.
At least in 1995 people weren't blabbering away in different loud languages on cell phones a foot from your ears.
Eating something with their mouths open etc. Just a nasty place to spend time, the worst of humanity on full display.

,I've mentioned before how they out of the blue wanted more papers from the US to prove we were married. The marriage certificate which was dated, stamped etc. was not enough for them.
Good enough in the USA to buy a house, pay taxes and get credit cards but not good enough for immigration.
In their own papers it states domestic relationships of 3 or more years were good enough so why didn't they except our legal for all business purposes in the USA official certificate? Someone seriously was messing with us or just didn't know what they were doing.
OK, so while waiting for the papers to arrive , the ones they asked for at immigration, we went over in the same group of buildings to another office that just handled registering of marriage papers. My husband wanted to double check on why they were hassling us so much.
They pulled out a book that had me listed down legally etc. as the mother of a Hungarian citizen who had legally married in Hungary to a Hungarian. My full name was listed and the lady even asked if it was me on the books. Just seemed like one hand didn't have a clue what they other hand was doing.
Sort of made us burn up with anger how silly and wasteful it was, making us pay for more time and send out for more documents after they already excepted me as the mother of a legal citizen.
Just crazy, no logic at all.
I admit I felt very disrespected after  nearly years  40 of marriage to be less then a 3 year domestic relationship in status in their eyes.
So in the long run I paid to stay in Hungary a extra 3 months and got married again in Hungary in our city hall in the office of marriage or whatever it's called here.
I know we got married in Las Vegas but come on already, it was real not a game show or fake marriage.
Seems I wasn't really "married" until Hungary said so? Just too rude.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

,I've mentioned before how they out of the blue wanted more papers from the US to prove we were married. The marriage certificate which was dated, stamped etc. was not enough for them.

Yes, I tend to just take every single bit of official paperwork I have got (both British and Hungarian) because they are bound to want something that they haven't actually asked for on the letter, or have specifically told you they don't need.

The new doctor now wants somehow to get my medical records from the UK, which I am not sure is even possible. In the UK, when you move around you just register with a new doctor (at a surgery of your choice) and they transfer your records over, which I imagine is done electronically these days, and then send the paper records on themselves, the new doctor just requests them from the previous doctor and you as the patient don't have to do anything yourself. Although people are entitled to see their own medical records, most people don't bother (or don't want to know) and I certainly never have, I suppose I should send an email to where I was last registered in the UK, to see what they might be able to do.

SimonTrew wrote:

....The new doctor now wants somehow to get my medical records from the UK, which I am not sure is even possible. In the UK, when you move around you just register with a new doctor (at a surgery of your choice) and they transfer your records over, which I imagine is done electronically these days, and then send the paper records on themselves, the new doctor just requests them from the previous doctor and you as the patient don't have to do anything yourself. Although people are entitled to see their own medical records, most people don't bother (or don't want to know) and I certainly never have, I suppose I should send an email to where I was last registered in the UK, to see what they might be able to do.

All they have to do is take your history, ask about your meds and then they know.  Medical School 101 surely!   I doubt they would write a letter from the UK to a Hungarian GP about it.  Or if they did, it'll cost you. 

Skip update: filled over weekend and now being collected (literally as I type). 30K HUF and done!

They should be able to send medical records over via e-mail but who knows if they can read them or not.
I orthopedic doctor here in HU sent  over a scan of my shoulder joint and a healthy shoulder joint, sort of guessed which one was mine but he didn't even send any other info.

In my case I suppose I now have 2 marriage anniversaries! Too bad my husband doesn't even like to celebrate the first one, not his thing to party over any reason.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

They should be able to send medical records over via e-mail but who knows if they can read them or not.
I orthopedic doctor here in HU sent  over a scan of my shoulder joint and a healthy shoulder joint, sort of guessed which one was mine but he didn't even send any other info.

In my case I suppose I now have 2 marriage anniversaries! Too bad my husband doesn't even like to celebrate the first one, not his thing to party over any reason.

I doubt they'd do it because of data protection issues.  Things have changed recently.  There's the EU inspired and EU-wide data protection law GDPR coming into force soon.  I think it's 26 May, it's in force. Quite a shake up on data sharing.  Facebook will be stuffed (hurrah!).

fluffy2560 wrote:

klsallee wrote:

fluffy2560 wrote:

I really do want to know what HU immigrants to the UK think of it

Then, don't you think, the ideal place to discuss this is in one of the UK forums, where current Hungarian expats, that are most affected by this topic, may respond?

I think it's a fair topic to discuss Brexit in the Hungary forums.

I am not debating if it is "fair" or not. I am saying doing it here is not that efficient. There are better places to get a serious answer. And if you want a serious answer, consider those other options. That is all I am saying. But of course, you can fish for sea bass in a fresh water lake if you wish. That is your right.

fluffy2560 wrote:

We might even need visas.  That would be truly a disaster.

So, you are treated like the rest of the non-EU world. Like me. Big deal. It is not a crisis. You have lived here a long time. You will probably get automatic permanent residency which is good for 10 years and is automatically renewed.

And so you have to wait in a few lines (queues). Oh the horror!   

Well, actually, no, it isn't.

Come by. I will pour you a glass of wine. That always helps. And after two or three, you won't care about visas or queues/lines.

SimonTrew wrote:

I am just very lucky, I am white, male,  heterosexual, astonishingly good-looking, rich and clever

I think you forgot "egocentric".

Personally, I like to think of myself as ruggedly good-looking, brilliant, extraordinarily talented in anything I do, alway right and egocentric. But that is just me. 

I like to think of myself as witty, charming, beautiful, talented and just a all round sweetheart.
Of course the mirror doesn't lie and my social calendar is not overfull.
Guess I am only fooling myself...
No, I know everyone is joking around and not being serious.
Hmm, maybe I'm not joking, no really self love is important because the rest of the world has no problem kicking you in the teeth.

klsallee wrote:

fluffy2560 wrote:

We might even need visas.  That would be truly a disaster.

So, you are treated like the rest of the non-EU world. Like me. Big deal. It is not a crisis. You have lived here a long time. You will probably get automatic permanent residency which is good for 10 years and is automatically renewed.

And so you have to wait in a few lines (queues). Oh the horror!   

Well, actually, no, it isn't.

Come by. I will pour you a glass of wine. That always helps. And after two or three, you won't care about visas or queues/lines.

As I said for those of us that have been here for a long time, there will be no change, but those arriving now and after Brexit there could well be a need for visas.

klsallee wrote:

fluffy2560 wrote:

We might even need visas.  That would be truly a disaster.

So, you are treated like the rest of the non-EU world. Like me. Big deal. It is not a crisis. You have lived here a long time. You will probably get automatic permanent residency which is good for 10 years and is automatically renewed.

And so you have to wait in a few lines (queues). Oh the horror!   

Well, actually, no, it isn't.

Come by. I will pour you a glass of wine. That always helps. And after two or three, you won't care about visas or queues/lines.

The problem is that we just don't know and it's the uncertainty that's winding me up.  For example, we do not need permission to buy property but post-Brexit we will do.   It's going to be strange. I am thinking of trying to buy some more land down at Balaton because of it (ok, needs money to do that). 

I think it'd be sensible just to let us stay but I've no idea and no-one anywhere else has any idea either.  And each government will probably do its own thing as it'll be bilateral. 

I could cast around for a model.  The main one I thought possibly could work would be something like Yugoslavia when it broke up - suddenly the "federation" was over.  Bit like that with the EU.  Suddenly free movement restricted etc, passport controls, etc etc.

BTW1, I don't like queuing.   Maybe they'll have an expat.com queue but I doubt they will allow drinking while in the queue.  Not that far advanced (yet).

BTW2,  one of the main Brexit drivers, immigration, has fallen by the wayside. According to the (British) radio people are now saying it's not such a problem.  What changed?  Might be Windrush. No-one really knows.

You could still buy a lot of land in Puna for as little as $5,000. before the eruption.
Never interested me at all because you get what you pay for most times.
Lived in Hilo and always felt a uneasy vibe in the air. Pele was getting ready to do her thing.
I wish we had bought near Balaton 11 years ago, now it's still not too late but as we are getting older it seems like more hassle to own then to just rent something.
I have no interest at all in fixing or gardening, nothing more then working a flower pot.
My in-laws lived in Budapest and worked and saved all their lives.
Even in communist days they were able to save to buy 2 large plots of land, double sized lots in Erd.
Wish they had liked Balaton better, would of bought them out.
So they worked and saved and spent every weekend which in the old days was only 1 1/2 days off drove over to Erd and worked the land, built a house then a second large on where the old one had stood.
Built pens for animals, had a very nice garden and wine grapes, made a press room etc.
They finally retired at age 55 for my MIL and 60 for my FIL.
Had a dozen or so good years of retirement then got old, the place was too much work for them and they spent every waking moment doing something around the home to keep it going.
Got rid of their animals, reduced their garden crops.
Not my thing to work on my home until the day I drop like they did.
My mom was the same way, had a house and was always raising kids, had 2 late in life and by the time they flew the coop, she was sick and tired.
She had enough money to travel anywhere plus with her son working for the airlines she could fly for nearly free anywhere in the world with only paying the tax on the ticket price.
She took 2 short times, one to SF and one to NM.
Never even made it to her dream place of Hawaii because her home kept her busy.
Rentals are great, if you dislike something you can pick up and move, for younger people overall owning is good but older people can't take it with them so why try to hang on to it all?
My mom finally sold her house, had enough to live on plus had her SS every month. She paid off all her long standing bills, credit cards etc. and bought a cashiers check for 50% of what she got from her home sale and wrote it out to her 6 kids to share.
She was finally free of mowing her lawn and cleaning a big house.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

I have no interest at all in fixing or gardening, nothing more then working a flower pot.

The British would garden the gates of Hell if you let them. Painted me garden shed yesterday in a nice green Sadolin, and the gate in some Hammerite and another metal paint, starting to look OK. Still have to get all the concrete out and put some grass instead, but it is coming along. Lopped the lower (dead) branches off the trees which brings a lot more light into the garden too.

We'll get some nice climbers - probably rambling roses, buddleia (butterfly bush) and stuff - to go up the neighbour's walls (not ivy etc as it eats into the plaster/brick and also once it's in, it's a right pain to keep it under control, it just bolts everywhere, spent a happy afternoon getting it all out and cut back).

Might build the compost heap today, make a change from being covered in paint. The aim, generally, is to get it on the surface you are painting instead of yourself, but... and of course I have to put the sign up for Fluff 'n' Si's shed...

SimonTrew wrote:

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We'll get some nice climbers - probably rambling roses, buddleia (butterfly bush) .....

Might build the compost heap today, make a change from being covered in paint. The aim, generally, is to get it on the surface you are painting instead of yourself, but... and of course I have to put the sign up for Fluff 'n' Si's shed...

How you doing your compost heap?

We banged in some metal poles, put metal sheets up around the sides.  Job done.   One before was wood (rotted) and the one before was plastic (broke - went in the skip).

Buddleia = Pillangó Bokor

Great word that - Pillangó.  Bit like papillon.   One of my fave HU words.

Quite partial to "délibáb" as well.  Sounds absolutely made up silly fun word to me.

SimonTrew wrote:

The British would garden the gates of Hell if you let them.

That is why only the French and Germans are allowed into Hell.

The British would garden it into a new paradise.   

fluffy2560 wrote:

How you doing your compost heap?

We banged in some metal poles, put metal sheets up around the sides.  Job done.   One before was wood (rotted) and the one before was plastic (broke - went in the skip).

Mine is wood, and about 10 years old. Trick is to use rot resistant wood. I used Black Locust (called "White Acacia" here (but it is actually not an Acacia)).

fluffy2560 wrote:

The problem is that we just don't know and it's the uncertainty that's winding me up.  For example, we do not need permission to buy property but post-Brexit we will do. .

Yes. And? That is just a process. A bit of paperwork. Oh well.

Besides, you have an edge: Your wife is Hungarian. Have her "buy" the property on the paper. Then after purchase, go to the land office and have her give you life time use rights. That is what I did. It is not a big deal.

fluffy2560 wrote:

BTW1, I don't like queuing.   Maybe they'll have an expat.com queue but I doubt they will allow drinking while in the queue.

Phft. Who cares about rules?

fluffy2560 wrote:

BTW2,  one of the main Brexit drivers, immigration, has fallen by the wayside. According to the (British) radio people are now saying it's not such a problem.  What changed?

Nothing changed. It always was mostly just propaganda to make people frightened. And frightened people (especially as a crowd) are easier to control by special interests. They are kept focused on an essentially non-issue over "here" so they don't ask too many questions about what is actually happening by those special interests "over there".

klsallee wrote:

fluffy2560 wrote:

How you doing your compost heap?

We banged in some metal poles, put metal sheets up around the sides.  Job done.   One before was wood (rotted) and the one before was plastic (broke - went in the skip).

Mine is wood, and about 10 years old. Trick is to use rot resistant wood. I used Black Locust (called "White Acacia" here (but it is actually not an Acacia)).

I used some wood I had laying around and put wood preservative on it but I was a bit uncomfortable doing that as I thought it wasn't very natural. Anyway, it lasted a bit but started to rot away after few years.   The plastic one was even worse - it reacted with UV and sort of crumbled away.    Plastic pollution.

klsallee wrote:

....Besides, you have an edge: Your wife is Hungarian. Have her "buy" the property on the paper. Then after purchase, go to the land office and have her give you life time use rights. That is what I did. It is not a big deal.

Oh no, Mrs Fluffy has to save me again from the perils of the Hungarian bureaucracy.

I don't know how people could ever manage here without their own version of Mrs Fluffy.

Three cheers for all the different versions of Mrs Fluffy across the land!

fluffy2560 wrote:

I don't know how people could ever manage here without their own version of Mrs Fluffy.

I wonder the same. 

In fact, that is a good seque to another comment of yours:

fluffy2560 wrote:

Great word that - Pillangó.  Bit like papillon.   One of my fave HU words.

My favorite Hungarian words are the ones I can pronounce. And most of those are monosyllabic. 

klsallee wrote:

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My favorite Hungarian words are the ones I can pronounce. And most of those are monosyllabic. 

I know the feeling.  I suppose the word "bor" is used a lot at your place.

The other one we use a lot here and trips of my tongue regularly is "összeesküvés".

I don't know much Hungarian but I know that one!

My mind drifted over to thinking of my Japanese DIL after reading some answers here.
Made me think of different cultures and the plus and minus of some of them.
A couple days ago we walked past the Vet school here on our way to the park.
A group of 4 younger women passed by us and one just shouted out so loudly to another that we both jumped inisde.
Ouch, my ears, they were fellow Americans with those loud squeaky shrill voices.
Later another group walked past us eating ice cream on sticks and also just about as noisy, also American "ladies".
One thing I really admire about Hungarian women is the way most talk so softly and pay allot of attention to detail.
No matter what, from working on your teeth or giving a facial to just setting the dinner table and pouring a glass of wine out for someone.
Just very calm and ladylike.
My son's Asian ladies from his past and his current wife have never  worn pants, always dressed in a skirt of dress in public.
Thought that was interesting to remember, even swimwear is modest and practical.
Also none of his Asian friends ever talk about themselves much, always modest and always thoughtful in nature.
Never need to brag about their talents to people.
I find that very charming and humbling.
They do things for people without waiting around for praise or thanks.
Almost get embarrassed if you tell them how kind they were .
I mentioned how for some reason my DIL told me she had taken private piano lessons in Japan for over 6 years. Maybe there was something on tv about it or whatever. She seemed shy about telling me afterwards.Like it was rude of her to show off at all or let on that she could play.
Hungarian women too I find will do just about anything for their families, which I do admire allot.
My in-laws used to almost fight each other to see who would get to do our laundry or give us a ride somewhere.
Not sure what that was about because these days we hardly hear from them.
I know my grandfathers family came from Germany.
He was cut out of the family business for being a rebel.
Growing up he would always buy us the best of anything we really needed. Never just wasted money of flim-flam junk.
When my 2 sisters needed special orthopedic shoes he would often buy them , they cost most  of a months pay for my father to supply 2 pairs of shoes with growing girls. Every few months they needed new shoes.
He would send to Germany to buy all 3 of us winter coats of the finest wool with fur collars in the 1950's.
When my eldest sister wanted to learn violin, he sent to Germany for a very  excellent child's size one.
bad thing about that is our mom forced  my next sister and I to learn too. That violin was not going to waste.
He lived on a small veterans pay.
Bought me a bed when I outgrew my baby crib that was so good that it was used for not only myself but the next  3 siblings that followed me.
I have heard that Germans are that way, only buy the best quality items they can. Don't go on wild shopping sprees often but when they do it is top shelf.
Sort of a odd topic ,just wish the heck we Americans could learn to lower our voices though... My ears are ringing thinking of how loud and attention seeking we can often be.
Suppose all cultures have their bad sides as well.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

A group of 4 younger women passed by us and one just shouted out so loudly to another that we both jumped inisde.
Ouch, my ears, they were fellow Americans with those loud squeaky shrill voices.
Later another group walked past us eating ice cream on sticks and also just about as noisy, also American "ladies".

I was once eating dinner at a restaurant in a central African country, when a group of Americans came in and were seated nearby. They were SO LOUD I contemplated asking to move my table or switching to German to talk to my waiter to avoid associations. But, alas, being a former English colony, not a German one, I doubted my waiter would know German. I hurried through my meal and left. Good grief, they were loud. That is an actual Stereotype with some merit: Americans can be loud. 

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

One thing I really admire about Hungarian women is the way most talk so softly

Well..... One of our Hungarian neighbors, a gold metal gossip, is herself quite loud. And has a certain frequency in her voice (similar to Fran Drescher's Nanny character) that just raises goose bumps on my skin....... 

Exceptions to ever every rule.

That's true, I was trying to think of the lady like Hungarian women, there are many of them but alas, low class acting people are in just about every culture.
I got to know many Chinese ladies through my son's old GF in Vegas. Such sweet women who were thoughtful, smart and kind but then again being a dealer of games that appeal to certain groups such as just about every game in the house, but mostly pia gow poker or baccarat . I should actually be fluent in Chinese after the time spent dealing bac but I digress...
Worked with a young HUngarian guy at the casino who could down play the comedy so much that it was even funnier to watch how he acted then what he actually said or did.
Had a man of a certain ethnic group on his table who picked his noise and swiped whatever came out onto the playing cards in his hand!
The funny HU guy calm as can be said to this numb nut, "Please sir< do not mark the playing cards"! The way he handled that situation was classic.
Loud mouth Americans, seems some are born half deaf or something.
That's the biggest problem with low cost airlines, anyone can travel even those who should never be allowed outside on their own.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

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Also none of his Asian friends ever talk about themselves much, always modest and always thoughtful in nature.
Never need to brag about their talents to people.
I find that very charming and humbling.
They do things for people without waiting around for praise or thanks.
Almost get embarrassed if you tell them how kind they were .
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I worked with Asian people a lot.  What I find is that they have opinions and they do want to say things but they fear (or observe, but not appreciate) the hierarchy in work situations.   It's a bit of a weird one as what we might see as somehow as quietness is actually self-repression.  They always seem to operate in groups so they have this self limiting behaviour as they really care about what others think and they want to be accepted.

Very surprising to find them expressing in a group really strong opinions on anything. but if you get them on their own, they can get it on a lot more and it's usually all so positive. It's a freedom that they find much harder to utilise than Westerners (who really express their individuality).   

Strange world.

Yes, my DIL actually started cracking jokes with me and telling me about some of her dreams.
Guess she trusted me as she should as a MIL.
I pride myself on not being a pain with my son's ladies in the past.
Often I was more upset about their break ups then he was.
His Korean GF lived with us for a few months, she was about 10 years older then my son so I was only about 10 years her senior.
We had allot of fun shopping together and eating kimche soups.
Only problem was once in awhile she would cook something way too strong at 1 am and the smell would make me wake up.
Never really made a "stink" about it though.
That's how it goes when people live with you.
I once asked my son why he never was interested in any American women, He said they remind him too much of me.
Guess he was semi-joking about that but he seriously dislikes his fellow countrywomen very much.
Says they are all about wanting money and what you can do for them plus they are too loud.
So many times at his job in the casino some cocktails waitress or customer tries to pick him up, he will have none of it.
Glad to know he has his standards and is kind to his wife.

Back in the early 1980's my sister had a good job in LA in the offices of the downtown Seiko watches main hub for S. Ca.
Great pay, not hard but everyone working there was from Japan and it was just too peaceful and quiet for her. Crazy, guess she loved talking over the office water cooler.Just wasn't happening there.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

Yes, my DIL actually started cracking jokes with me and telling me about some of her dreams.
Guess she trusted me as she should as a MIL.
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I once asked my son why he never was interested in any American women, He said they remind him too much of me.
Guess he was semi-joking about that but he seriously dislikes his fellow countrywomen very much.
Says they are all about wanting money and what you can do for them plus they are too loud.
So many times at his job in the casino some cocktails waitress or customer tries to pick him up, he will have none of it.
Glad to know he has his standards.

Sounds like she does indeed trust you.  That's good!

Personally I was never going to end up with someone from my own country although I gave it a go multiple times.  I've heard the same from others who have their favourites - my neice likes Arabs, my nephew Asians, my BIL Scandanavians etc.  I cannot exactly tell you why it is but must be something about the way people are brought up and how those cultures mesh together like working cogs.

fluffy2560 wrote:

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

Yes, my DIL actually started cracking jokes with me and telling me about some of her dreams.
Guess she trusted me as she should as a MIL.
....
I once asked my son why he never was interested in any American women, He said they remind him too much of me.
Guess he was semi-joking about that but he seriously dislikes his fellow countrywomen very much.
Says they are all about wanting money and what you can do for them plus they are too loud.
So many times at his job in the casino some cocktails waitress or customer tries to pick him up, he will have none of it.
Glad to know he has his standards.

Sounds like she does indeed trust you.  That's good!

Personally I was never going to end up with someone from my own country although I gave it a go multiple times.  I've heard the same from others who have their favourites - my neice likes Arabs, my nephew Asians, my BIL Scandanavians etc.  I cannot exactly tell you why it is but must be something about the way people are brought up and how those cultures mesh together like working cogs.

Interesting point.
Honestly if I had not met my husband I have no idea what I would be doing with myself now.
In school we hung out with friends at least 2 to 4 years older because the "kids" our age in our school were just so "Valley", very spoiled and very immature.
Ok, I am immature at times too but aren't we all?
The boys in our school didn't like us much, we dressed and acted too much older then they could handle.
Used to skip high school and hang at the jr. college with our friends, sit in on their classes and hang around their campus. Never got any credits for it, just got in trouble for skipping HS.
Thinking it over, most all my boy friends from before I met my husband lived in LA, near Beverly Hills or in Encino and were all nice Jewish boys, even though as far as I know we aren't Jewish.Then again one never knows all of their family history, coming from eastern Europe on my father's side there could of been a few Jewish relations somewhere.
Doesn't matter, they all had brains and style, not like the red neck boys where we lived who liked to drag race their old cars, boring.
Most of my old male friends were also "gay" still call them boyfriends though since we friends

My eldest sister had a "thing" for English men, suppose it was because of the Beatles.
She was madly in love at first with a boy from school who was in a short lived rock band.
Forget their "big time hit" that played all over the US on all the radio stations.
Then she fell madly in love with a guy in college. He came to our home a few times as they dated for awhile but as my sister was your classic,"good girl" he was going out at the same time with a "loose girl" who got pregnant.
They married and my sisters little heart was broken in two.
She was introduced by her good friend to a older guy, 8 years her senior who was nice, very straight and mature, he was a student and student teacher at UCSB, chemistry wa shis thing.
She supported him full time when school was in session and he taught in the summers.
She had enough after several years of him never finishing school so she ran off to the UK on holiday and never came home.
Married her Englishman.
He was ok but not a super hard worker like she is and she had enough of him too.
Back to Ca. where she ran into her old college flame who had dumped her for the pregnant girl.
He was divorced and worked for the" evil "Monsanto co.
Moved to Minn. Then out of the blue the "brat" had to move in with them, his daughter was about 16 and a full on mess.
On top of that her flame had turned to drinking.
Had to get away from him after 17 some years of pinning for him.
Stayed in Minn. and met a younger man who had an affair on her with one of his karate students.
Now she is happy with her 3 dogs and cat.
Poor thing, she had a stronger personality then any of her 4 husbands.
I think the secret to a happy marriage is really old fashioned, one is the leader and one has to follow, better if the male is the leader or resentment can happen .
Sharing with big plans but one has to be the fall guy if things go wrong, one must be serious and one can be the peacemaker.Having a "role" in a family is important too.
Important that any big plans are discussed between a couple and the leader doesn't take advantage of their leadership role.
Hey, maybe I should think about being a marriage counselor? No one second thought I don't want any angry people hunting me down...
Dang, now it's driving me crazy trying to remember the name of that popular song from the boys in our town that had that one hit wonder.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

......Used to skip high school and hang at the jr. college with our friends, sit in on their classes and hang around their campus. Never got any credits for it, just got in trouble for skipping HS.
Thinking it over, most all my boy friends from before I met my husband lived in LA, near Beverly Hills or in Encino and were all nice Jewish boys, even though as far as I know we aren't Jewish.Then again one never knows all of their family history, coming from eastern Europe on my father's side there could of been a few Jewish relations somewhere.
Doesn't matter, they all had brains and style, not like the red neck boys where we lived who liked to drag race their old cars, boring.
Most of my old male friends were also "gay" still call them boyfriends though since we friends.....

My eldest sister had a "thing" for English men, suppose it was because of the Beatles.
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Hey, maybe I should think about being a marriage counselor? No one second thought I don't want any angry people hunting me down...
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Wow!  Whole life story there!  Nice! But I would ask myself if there's a pattern in that series of relationships of your sister?  Was she looking always for something but never found it?  I note from others I've observed that some people get stuck in repetitively styled relationships.

I was watching some TV show a while back and there's a statistic about having 20 or so random people in a room and at least two of them will share a birthday date.  There was yet another "helpful" statistic at that point which said that in a room of X random people (might have been 12 or something), there would always be a personality match which could work as a relationship.  In other words, matching with someone is not that unique.  I suppose that means there's hope for everyone not at the limits of normality.

As a hippy type peace brother/sister small L liberal  I'd like to think that a relationship is more like a partnership than a leader/follower type thing.  There's sometimes the semblance of democracy but actually the dominant partner is going to make the decision and that's not so good if the less dominant one feels hard done by.  It'll fester forever.

It's a bit like salt and pepper - they go together it seems but does anyone really  knows why they match? Perhaps there's no accounting for chemistry.   Maybe you remember me saying some guy telling me Mrs Fluffy (HU) and myself (UK) was an unusual pairing?  Perhaps not.  I think we're quite different really but it seems to work pretty good (and if one believes the statistics, not that unique).

Ok,the old brain cells do work after all,
The band was, The Grass Roots.
Had more then one hit, Midnight Confession and Live for Today were not too bad.
One sister went to HS with one of the members and the other older sister went to college up in Ventura with 2 of the others.
Both said they were really nice guys.

Flashback memory.My one sister who went to HS with one of the band members of the Grass Roots,actually enrolled in music class and took drums, think it was the red headed drummer who was in her school.
Crazy, guess she was trying to get his attention because girls just didn't take up drums back then very often.
Yes, funny the eldest always married the same guy 4 times! My other sister was a joker and once just came right out and said, why bother with getting married at all, just do" it "already!
Nice outside, off to some event today hope it's worth the time.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

Ok,the old brain cells do work after all,
The band was, The Grass Roots.
Had more then one hit, Midnight Confession and Live for Today were not too bad.
One sister went to HS with one of the members and the other older sister went to college up in Ventura with 2 of the others.
Both said they were really nice guys.

As of 2008 it looks like they were still going!  See Youtube here.

They don't look that old in the video from 2008 - aged quite well.

When I saw "Grass Roots" I wondered if it was the other type of grass.

Funny enough these guys lived around and in Simi and Ventura county when we lived there in the 60's.
Think the one my eldest sister had a crush on was Rob the singer/bass player.
Of course half the girls in college thought he was a doll too.
He passed away in 2011. Sad he was still on the young side. Born in 43
Just walked home from a event near Mammut Mall, over to the Island for a walk and then home.
Dead as a doornob now.It was rather hot in the sun.
Event was a bust, didn't enter once we got there, didn't look like much happening and they were charging to get in.
Would of entered if we had seen more then small kids on bikes and a few tents set up.
All good, got my walk in and home just in time to miss the rain.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

Funny enough these guys lived around and in Simi and Ventura county when we lived there in the 60's.
Think the one my eldest sister had a crush on was Rob the singer/bass player.
Of course half the girls in college thought he was a doll too.
He passed away in 2011. Sad he was still on the young side. Born in 43....
All good, got my walk in and home just in time to miss the rain.

Yes, shame, wasn't that old really if born in 1943.   Same age as Mick Jagger and a year younger than Paul McCartney. 

Rain seems to be regularly occurring at the moment but the weather does seem to be a little odd for this time of year.  Good for the plants at least.  Stopped us from working in the garden though.  I was working on my deluxe kennel waterproofing the roof. Just  finished it in time but would have been nice if it wasn't tested quite so rapidly.

Will you be watching?

SimCityAT wrote:

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Will you be watching?

Good question.  There are about 40+ songs. It'll take forever.  And why is Australia in it? 

It's a bit "null point" these days. But maybe we'll have a look if we cannot see anything else.  There's a new Lost in Space series on Netflix.  Also there's a sci-fi film called Spectral I've been meaning to see. Clearly filmed in Budapest.