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In need of urgent help for student visa

Topfpflanze97

Hey guys,

My name's Chris, I'm a German student who just started his semester abroad at the Universidad de Cuenca, and two other German students and I are having some severe troubles obtaining the student visa here. The two main reasons are (1) the recent immigration policy changes in Ecuador and (2) the fact that no Government official seems to be able to provide us the correct information. Here's our story (sorry, but I think I might have to elaborate a bit):

Back in June I got my acceptance letter from the U Cuenca and I immediately tried to get all the necessary documents together to send them to the Ecutorian embassy in Stolberg, Germany. Before I sent them there, I called them because I had a few questions and during this phone call I was told that because of the fact that the semester in Ecuador was shorter than 180 days (as stated on my letter of acceptance), I was not eligible for a student visa, but I could just get my regular tourist visa prolonged to 180 days. I called another Ecuadorian embassy in Munich who confirmed this information.
So I took off to Ecuador, but just to be sure, I took my translated criminal record and other required documents with me. When I got here, and talked to other international students, I found out that they had no problems obtaining the student visa with the same duration stated on their acceptance letter, and that other students also were able to obtain their student visa at an immigration office here in Ecuador without applying for it before leaving to Ecuador. Also I found out here that the student visa is a lot cheaper than the prolonged tourist visa ($100 instead of $400), so I thought it'd be worth giving it a shot. It turned out that two other German students were in the same situation. Before we went to the immigration offices to obtain the visa though, we were told that we needed our criminal records not only translated but also apostilled. To confirm this information we went to the immigration offices in Azogues and there we were told that this was indeed the case, but that we could obtain a legalization of said criminal records at the embassy in Quito. We called the German embassy in Quito and they said that since the Apostille Conventions took effect, legalizing documents as suggested was not possible anymore and that we need to get the apostille from the corresponding ministry in Germany and that we would also need this apostille to be translated as well.
We then contacted the woman at the Azogues offices again and confronted her about her misinforming us, but she was neither apologetic nor was she in any way willing to further assist us.
All this has been happening in the past 3 weeks since we've been in Ecuador and the law states that visas need to be registered within the first 30 days after arrival. In this time, we won't be able to get the apostille from Germany, but since we still have to obtain the visa, we're wondering if this 30 day rule applies to us as well or if we have more time to obtain the documents from Germany. We tried to get help from immigration offices in Guayaquil and Quito as well, but they won't provide us with any information unless we show up in person. So there's really no one we can talk to anymore and all the people who did "help" us, gave us conflicting information.

Maybe there's someone here who recently had similar issues or has any helpful information. Amidst this bureaucratic clusterf*ck, we're happy about any sort of guidance :)

See also

The Working Holiday Visa for EcuadorGeneral visa requirements in EcuadorPermanent Residency in EcuadorTourist trip 180 noncontinuous days in EcuadorApplying for expat retirement visa
cacahuate

Hi, Chris,

Yes, your Background checks need to be apostilled. That's usually done in the Country's ministry of Foreign affairs. Yes, you need that to be able to obtain the student visa. My advice would be for you guys to obtain a 90days extension visa so you have time to figure out how to get your docs apostilled.

Which visa do you currently hold?

Best,
J

cccmedia

I suggest that the German students in Cuenca go as a group to the university president's office and explain this predicament.  At that point, you may be referred to another campus office.

When you reach the correct university official, you can politely yet firmly solicit the university's assistance.  After all, the university invited you to study there .. and the correct thing is that they support you in obtaining the requisite visa.

Ideally, there is a university department or university attorney who deals with such matters frequently .. and has the connections and knowledge to assist you in the visa quest.

Possibly, this major university has a Cuenca law firm on retainer and can arrange a meeting for y'all with an attorney at the firm at no cost to you.

If someone at a university in Germany assisted in arranging your semester abroad, perhaps he or she can start sending emails to the Cuenca school supporting your quest.  It might be your role to provide Germany with the name, title and email address(es) that are relevant.

cccmedia

cccmedia

If I understand the timeline correctly, you are facing a registration deadline of late next week.

In that case, Cacahuate's advice to get an extension may be valid.

An extension of what, though?  The tourist permit?  The 30-day registration deadline?

You may need an attorney on the case to sort out the answer .. and then guide you to a successful outcome.

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This is the worst case of visa confusion based on the new immigration law that we have learned about on this forum.  There is bound to be someone in the Cuenca-area visa office who can relax the rules, expecially the registration deadline, to accommodate the fact that Ecuador has not gotten its visa act together.  If there is such an official, you or an attorney needs to find that out .. and make the relevant request.

cccmedia

cccmedia

Still more brainstorming.

If the law states that a visa must be registered within 30 days of arrival, that may not apply to you .. since you apparently have a tourist permit and not a visa.

Historically, a tourist permit is good for 90 days .. and can be renewed for another 90 or 180 days.

I realize you discussed this in your first post.

The solution to your problem may be as simple as:  forget about a student visa .. ride out your 90 day tourist stamp .. and, along the way, apply for an extension.

You stated that the tourist permit extension is more expensive than a student visa.  However, it may be worth it to get around apostille requirements, a registration deadline and/or a trip to Quito .. not to mention peace of mind.

cccmedia

Topfpflanze97

Hey guys,

thanks for your quick and profound advice, much appreciated! :)
We're currently holding the regular 90 day tourist stamp and plan b would be to get said extension. We're trying to get the student visa instead though, because it's $300 cheaper. So yes, the extension is a possibility but we're poor students, so we're trying to spend our money travelling instead haha. But the advice to seek guidance at the university might actually be very helpful, we're going to try that!
And again, thank you guys very much!!

cacahuate

Hi,

The 90 days visa extension only costs 150$, it is the same cost as the student, I thought about that one because you will need to buy enough time to have all your background checks apostilled in Germany.

Good luck!