Brexit and its implications for British, HU and any other citizens

...He later just waited out the7 years in the US and did it the way just about everyne does, waited his turn and swore the oath.
He probably knows more about the US congress and the functions of each branch then most US born citizens do.
-@Marilyn Tassy

Judging by the shenanigans going on recently in Congress, many people know more about making more "efficient" functions of government than those elected there.   

Some of the well known and visible US congress members are absolute loons, right wing nutters and religious fanatics.  And many  take their cue from one Donald J Trump who is not even an elected member.

There are few articles in this month's Economist profiling a typical congress person and they are not like the ordinary folk. 

I just do not understand this world anymore, even if British I think if you have enough funds you would be allowed to stay (all governments should be practical). Honestly if you are kicked out without Hungarian language capapilities what is the real problem (that is life). In Turkey currently (in my view) is the situation a bit stronger than it is in Hungary.

We just take a passive approach (wait and see) no reason to get excited, I personally never wanted to get Hungarian nationality (or for that matter Turkish), I will remain Dutch and I will get kick me out, OK, I will go back (if so far, I suppose there is a reason), also for Hungary, bottom lineif you become a burden, please go back, if you are a pensioner or another bringing revenues fine.

Cruel, but how things are develop (also in East Asian countries), do not be a burden and rightfully so.

I just do not understand this world anymore, even if British I think if you have enough funds you would be allowed to stay (all governments should be practical). Honestly if you are kicked out without Hungarian language capapilities what is the real problem (that is life). In Turkey currently (in my view) is the situation a bit stronger than it is in Hungary.
We just take a passive approach (wait and see) no reason to get excited, I personally never wanted to get Hungarian nationality (or for that matter Turkish), I will remain Dutch and I will get kick me out, OK, I will go back (if so far, I suppose there is a reason), also for Hungary, bottom lineif you become a burden, please go back, if you are a pensioner or another bringing revenues fine.
Cruel, but how things are develop (also in East Asian countries), do not be a burden and rightfully so.
-@cdw057

It's not about language.  That's just a means to an end.

As a Dutch person, you're an EU citizen. You're not going to be kicked out of an EU country unless you were a serial killer or some other evil person.   You do not even need any money or proof of income or even somewhere to live.

Post-Brexit it's not really possible for a British person to work in the UK or another EU state and reside in yet another EU-country ad-infinitum.  The residence permit does not permit freedom of movement.

Pre-Brexit, no-one would have cared. But now British people are being actively monitored about the time spent in the EU.

Speaking Hungarian is necessary to obtain a HU passport and a means to regain EU freedom of movement.

I have all the paperwork to apply for HU citizenship but it's been sitting around for going on 2 years.Not all that important to me. Not much advantage to me either way. If I ever leave Hungary to will be for good . I'm so tired of moving around.

A younger person of course would get allot out of a dual citizenship.

I heard something about the US considering taking away dual citizenship status.

In that case my HU husband might just lose his HU citizenship and we both would go back to the states.

Sometimes we think Hungary isn't exactly where we would like to end our days anyways.We might need a push to get going.

It's easy to get comfy somewhere and put things off.

We really liked it here better when we only stayed 6 months a year anyways.

These winters are not so fun. Too gloomy and no snow.

Just dull winters.

It seems the British are experiencing what we other 3rd country nationals have always gone through. Not much fun to be a ,"second class citizen" although we aren't even citizens.

The US wasn't super easy for my son to bring his 2 different wives from different countries. It cost him allot of time and money.

He told me at the US embassy when his HU wife got her green card and working papers for the US, even the office workers were nicer to her. They shook her hand and told her good luck etc.

Like she won a prize or something.

My son has moved to Japan and because he is married to a citizen they gave him all the papers straight away even health coverage.

He probably will never become a Japanese citizen because they only allow one citizenship.

I think that will be the future, only one citizenship for all. They wish to control the movements of people so that's a place to start.

I have all the paperwork to apply for HU citizenship but it's been sitting around for going on 2 years.Not all that important to me. Not much advantage to me either way. If I ever leave Hungary to will be for good . I'm so tired of moving around.
A younger person of course would get allot out of a dual citizenship.
I heard something about the US considering taking away dual citizenship status.
In that case my HU husband might just lose his HU citizenship and we both would go back to the states.
Sometimes we think Hungary isn't exactly where we would like to end our days anyways.We might need a push to get going.
It's easy to get comfy somewhere and put things off.
We really liked it here better when we only stayed 6 months a year anyways.
These winters are not so fun. Too gloomy and no snow.
Just dull winters.
It seems the British are experiencing what we other 3rd country nationals have always gone through. Not much fun to be a ,"second class citizen" although we aren't even citizens.
The US wasn't super easy for my son to bring his 2 different wives from different countries. It cost him allot of time and money.
He told me at the US embassy when his HU wife got her green card and working papers for the US, even the office workers were nicer to her. They shook her hand and told her good luck etc.
Like she won a prize or something.
My son has moved to Japan and because he is married to a citizen they gave him all the papers straight away even health coverage.
He probably will never become a Japanese citizen because they only allow one citizenship.
I think that will be the future, only one citizenship for all. They wish to control the movements of people so that's a place to start.
-@Marilyn Tassy

I cannot see the US removing dual citizenship from the population. That sounds like some kind of nationalist tripe.  Imagine the many - really many - US citizens who would have their heritage removed. No way that will happen in the short term. That's a vote loser for sure. Imagine the Hispanic population who are growing hugely and may eclipse the WASP types. Many of them will lose their connections if they cannot easily travel to Cuba or wherever. No way they would vote to reduce their historic family connections.

Yes, we British are indeed 3rd country nationals the same as many. It has gone the other way - officials are nastier with us now. Previously they were quite reasonable but now they are rude and officious. Having an RP doesn't win any privilege and in fact, increases suspicion that you're somehow not entitled and up to no good. It's what I always say, it's now permission to be here, not a right as we had before.  Definitely a demotion to 2nd class individual.  It's not my fault a bunch of morons back at the mothership voted for Brexit. But there's no sympathy in a bureaucracy for how the disenfranchised feel.

I was asked a few weeks ago if we'd consider leaving Hungary. And the answer is definitely "Yes".  But to have the same lifestyle, we will need to win the lottery.  House prices are so outlandish in the UK, it's impossible to do that. Only if we moved to somewhere like the Welsh countryside or a deprived area. The fall in the HUF has made it all very unaffordable over there. I hope that the current UK government changes in 2024 and a new government lowers the anti-EU stance and we start to see a kind of recovery of some of our rights.

BTW, the weather was really bad the last few days but it's really nice today. It might be more consistently nice by the end of the month and certainly by the end of February.

Once rights are removed people usually have to fight to get them back.

One reason in the US so many people are against giving up their guns.

To tell the truth , If we do return to the US, I would seriously think about carrying a gun myself.

So many nutters with them over there.

I had some jerk pull a gun on me back in the early 1980s.

I shared that horror story before. I walked my boy to kindergarten and was on my way home when some creep in a brand new convertible Mercedes 450 followed me. He was at just about every st. crossing I walked and was just starting at me. He pulled close to me and called out. I thought by his nice car, his business suit on and the nice neighborhood that he was going to just ask for directions for an address or st.

No, he just pulled a gun at my face. I thought this is it.

He laughed and drove on.

I never walked again in that neighborhood. My husband bought me a car to drive my boy in.

I never wanted a car at the time but had to have some sort of freedom.

I can imgine how much more insane people are over there now.

It would be wreckless to be elderly, on your own driving and have someone bothering you or running you off the road without protection.

The weather is great today, have to get out and enjoy it.

Once rights are removed people usually have to fight to get them back.
One reason in the US so many people are against giving up their guns.
To tell the truth , If we do return to the US, I would seriously think about carrying a gun myself.
So many nutters with them over there.
I had some jerk pull a gun on me back in the early 1980s.
I shared that horror story before. I walked my boy to kindergarten and was on my way home when some creep in a brand new convertible Mercedes 450 followed me. He was at just about every st. crossing I walked and was just starting at me. He pulled close to me and called out. I thought by his nice car, his business suit on and the nice neighborhood that he was going to just ask for directions for an address or st.
No, he just pulled a gun at my face. I thought this is it.
He laughed and drove on.
I never walked again in that neighborhood. My husband bought me a car to drive my boy in.
I never wanted a car at the time but had to have some sort of freedom.
I can imgine how much more insane people are over there now.
It would be wreckless to be elderly, on your own driving and have someone bothering you or running you off the road without protection.
The weather is great today, have to get out and enjoy it.
-@Marilyn Tassy

That's the escalation.  Owning a gun means the crooks need them too to carry out their misdeeds.  So in the end, everyone's packing including little kids looking to kill or maim their teachers.  I can see owning a gun if you live in rural Alaska is just part of the lifestyle just in case a bear stops by. But downtown Los Angeles?  Only to fight the two legged hoods.  Not cool.

Armed rioting is also becoming more popular for political purposes - USA first and this week, Brazil.  I don't see armed rioting in Parliament as a likely event in my own country.  People are far too polite to do that.   We're not against Parliament, but the a***hats that hang out there.

The weather was indeed excellent today. I was out in the forest with the mutt and it was surprisingly busy.  Normally there are very few people during the week but today, with the sun being out and it being nice, it was quite busy.  I did quite well time wise on my normal route with a couple of stops to interact with other dogs and chat to the owners.  Next walking day is Friday (every other day usually).

@SimCityAT

Who is the green stick insect meant to be?

The other one is Farage I presume.

BTW, Starmer needs to grow a pair and hint some flexibility on rejoining the single market AND restoring freedom of movement.  All that NI problem goes away then.

@SimCityAT
Who is the green stick insect meant to be?

The other one is Farage I presume.

BTW, Starmer needs to grow a pair and hint some flexibility on rejoining the single market AND restoring freedom of movement. All that NI problem goes away then.
-@fluffy2560

Mogg

@SimCityAT
Who is the green stick insect meant to be?

The other one is Farage I presume.

BTW, Starmer needs to grow a pair and hint some flexibility on rejoining the single market AND restoring freedom of movement. All that NI problem goes away then.
-@fluffy2560

Mogg
-@SimCityAT

Oh, didn't recognise him as stick insects aren't slimey. 

And not reclining like he's in some old boys' club.

Only took them 2 months to write this up

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/citizens-rights-specialised-committee-meeting-17-november-2022-joint-statement

Only took them 2 months to write this up
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/citizens-rights-specialised-committee-meeting-17-november-2022-joint-statement
-@SimCityAT

Doesn't explain what the difficulties are that people are facing  for EU and for UK citizens.  They should give concrete examples.

As I've said before, I applied for Mrs F to be given permission to be in the UK.  Mainly I wanted her to be able to be there in her own right.

Never heard another thing back despite reference numbers being issued by them and documents being submitted by us.

From Euronews:

New EU border checks delayed until the end of 2023: How will the EES affect travellers?

Doesn't apply if traveller has a RP (and particularly beneficiary of Brexit Withdrawal Agreement).

But it doesn't say anything how that works when you arrive at the border with your RP card.

Do you go through the fingerprint scanning process or do you go to a border guard desk? Or do you just go through the EU nationals queue?

As usual, half-baked information.

From Euronews:
New EU border checks delayed until the end of 2023: How will the EES affect travellers?

Doesn't apply if traveller has a RP (and particularly beneficiary of Brexit Withdrawal Agreement).

But it doesn't say anything how that works when you arrive at the border with your RP card.

Do you go through the fingerprint scanning process or do you go to a border guard desk? Or do you just go through the EU nationals queue?

As usual, half-baked information.
-@fluffy2560

Nothing changes for us, you just go through borders as normal. But we have known for a while that it got pushed back to November instead of the planed May date.

From Euronews:
New EU border checks delayed until the end of 2023: How will the EES affect travellers?

Doesn't apply if traveller has a RP (and particularly beneficiary of Brexit Withdrawal Agreement).

But it doesn't say anything how that works when you arrive at the border with your RP card.

Do you go through the fingerprint scanning process or do you go to a border guard desk? Or do you just go through the EU nationals queue?

As usual, half-baked information.
-@fluffy2560

Nothing changes for us, you just go through borders as normal. But we have known for a while that it got pushed back to November instead of the planed May date.
-@SimCityAT

The article at Euronews contains new information and dated 20 January 2023.

Mainly it says it's been delayed as you say but it also says (now) that those with RP don't need to go through the EES fingerprint processing. This was done when they issued the RP anyway so they already have them.  Presumably fingerprints are shared now at an EU/EEA level.  Several other articles say the UK is introducing a similar scheme in 2024.

But for EES it doesn't say how practically one gets processed at the border.

Perhaps we can scan our passports and RPs on the scanner and that's that?

Who knows!

https://www.eulisa.europa.eu/Newsroom/N … ector.aspx

Downton Abbey venue to scrap weddings 'because of Brexit'

https://www.itv.com/news/2023-02-06/downtown-abbey-venue-to-scrap-weddings-because-of-brexit

Downton Abbey venue to scrap weddings 'because of Brexit'
https://www.itv.com/news/2023-02-06/downtown-abbey-venue-to-scrap-weddings-because-of-brexit
-@SimCityAT

What a disaster!  That huge party I was planning at Downtown Abbey is cancelled.

Well, what can one say? Symptomatic of the mental state of 52% of the population back at the referendum and perhaps the same group that watches Downtown Abbey.  Definitely a Venn diagram needed for that.

I still do not understand how a country could choose to disadvantage itself by self-removing access to the world's biggest market.

I heard that all the polls show the Tories are going to be out and Starmer and Co are the party in waiting. Populist governments - like Italy's - are on the wane. The election of a liberal President in the Czech Republic gives some hope that moderation and not Trumpist nonsense wins the day.

What I'm really concerned about in the UK is the ECHR withdrawal just to stop illegal immigration and removal of the right of appeal.  WTF?

And now, there's the mad idea of burning all the EU laws embedded in UK law in one go. WTF (x2)?! 

How many British citizens live in Austria?

How many British Citizens have become Austrian citizens since 2016?

Some interesting facts and numbers. It would be interesting to see the numbers for Hungary.

How many British citizens live in Austria?
How many British Citizens have become Austrian citizens since 2016?

Some interesting facts and numbers. It would be interesting to see the numbers for Hungary.
-@SimCityAT

Interesting stuff.  Unsurprisingly, there was a dash to claim Austrian citizenship in response to Brexit.  I believe that's been a thing across the entire EU.  Even Boris Johnson's Dad became French.   

BTW, I am wondering if the recent UK court case on EU nationals in the UK has any bearing on British rights in the EU.   As far as I understand it, UK government lost the case over its interpretation of applications for permanent residence according to the WA (Withdrawal Agreement).  The outcome of the case is that permanent residence (PR) does not need to be applied for those who registered themselves. PR would be automatic. 

I was thinking the same could be argued in Europe.   In Hungary, we're all issued with RPs with restricted rights (no freedom of movement inter-EU, only HU employment rights etc) and after 5 years, we have to apply (I suppose) for the EU-wide version of PR (freedom of movement etc).  It seems to me that the same should apply here.  We should have been given EU PR immediately without application. 

The UK, was a bit different to the rest of us, they never got any cards. They just registered.  Here we have cards with photos so need to renew them at the expiry date with an up-to-date photo.

The UK, was a bit different to the rest of us, they never got any cards. They just registered. Here we have cards with photos so need to renew them at the expiry date with an up-to-date photo.
-@SimCityAT

The UK has never had ID cards or even a system for Registration.  However, wef this May's local elections, if you don't have a passport or UK driving licence, then a Voter ID - called a ‘Voter Authority Certificate’ (cards), is compulsory if you want to vote.  You can read about them on the UK Gov website (link).

The UK, was a bit different to the rest of us, they never got any cards. They just registered. Here we have cards with photos so need to renew them at the expiry date with an up-to-date photo.
-@SimCityAT
The UK has never had ID cards or even a system for Registration. However, wef this May's local elections, if you don't have a passport or UK driving licence, then a Voter ID - called a ‘Voter Authority Certificate’ (cards), is compulsory if you want to vote. You can read about them on the UK Gov website (link).
-@Cynic

We did have non-compulsory ID cards in the Blunkett/Blair era but it was completely scrapped when the Tories came to power.   And before that, during WW2, there were ID documents (more booklets than cards). Those were ruled illegal post-war - only necessary during wartime, but not after.  Very reasonable.   

The voter cards is just ID cards by the back door.  It's got a link to the NI number as well.  So soon enough, scope creep will take over as it always does with this kind of thing.  Soon, it'll be an entitlement card, then a health card and yadda-yadda on it goes.

It'll disenfranchise a lot of people just because of the hassle of it.  But maybe that's what they want.

Voter ID issues have  never been a problem in the UK.

The UK, was a bit different to the rest of us, they never got any cards. They just registered. Here we have cards with photos so need to renew them at the expiry date with an up-to-date photo.
-@SimCityAT
The UK has never had ID cards or even a system for Registration. However, wef this May's local elections, if you don't have a passport or UK driving licence, then a Voter ID - called a ‘Voter Authority Certificate’ (cards), is compulsory if you want to vote. You can read about them on the UK Gov website (link).
-@Cynic

This has nothing to do with UK and ID cards.

The UK, was a bit different to the rest of us, they never got any cards. They just registered. Here we have cards with photos so need to renew them at the expiry date with an up-to-date photo.
-@SimCityAT

It's not about the photos or the form it takes. It's about the legal argument and requirement to apply for PR post-registration. EU nationals in the UK (about 2.5M of them) will now automatically get PR if they have pre-settled or settled status. They do not have to apply, it's automatically granted as a result of this court ruling.

I'm seeing parallels with the WA rights in the EU. After 5 years, we have to apply for the EU PR. It seems to me, we should not need to apply but really it should be granted immediately or at least automatically. It's potentially the same legal arguments as the UK.

I have a beef with the immigration about this anyway. We had EEA registration cards before the PR cards for HU. For example, if an EEA card was dated say, 2019, a HU PR card should have been issued backdated to 2019. Instead, they've been issued immediately after the end of 2021 (when the transition period expired) with a 5 year timeframe, i.e. 2027.  So the earliest date for EU PR is wrong (in my mind). 

My argument is they should have been issued with a lifetime until 2024 (5 years from first "Brexit" registration 2019). So it means - in my example - one would have to wait until 2027 to get EU PR. It seems to me rather unfair! All the years that went before are totally ignored.  Or they should have been issued with EU PR immediately without this interim period of HU only.

I applied for Mrs F to have PR in the UK, just so she had freedom of movement, EU to UK etc. But never heard anything back. We received a reference number. Now this court case has come around, I'm going to resurrect it. It's not that Mrs F wants to live in the UK, I want to try and secure rights for her in case the kids go and live there and she wants to join them.

I never had to have any cards before Brexit, but each country controls their borders and makes its own rules. This is one of my pet hates with the UK saying now they can control its borders. It always could control them.

I never had to have any cards before Brexit, but each country controls their borders and makes its own rules. This is one of my pet hates with the UK saying now they can control its borders. It always could control them.
-@SimCityAT

Yes, it's true, we didn't need anything much.  Now we need everything and we're hemmed in.   

But it's like I said, the EU as a whole and  its constituent parts agreed to the WA.  So they are governed by it too.  UK has the IMA - Independent Monitoring Authority.  They were part of the case against HMG on this PR thing.  I am not sure who is monitoring on the EU side. I wonder what they are saying about it.  I might try and find out and see if there is mileage in taking into account the "misapplied dates of registration" that I alluded to previously.

Legal arguments and the logic applied are often used in other countries.  So, for example, legal arguments on some point of law in say, Canada, may also be applied in the UK. Of course, it depends on the subject but the rationales for the legal decision for and against can be the same. It's like universal logic - it works the same other places.

The border control issue in Brexit was just a pack of lies. The boat people still come and in higher numbers. They don't care about borders or Brexit.  It's just a total embarrassment.

All Brexit has done is wreck the economy and created a lot of very p***ed off people.

Now all the annoyed people are going to vote anti-Tory.  Anything but them again.

I was at BUD airport last night.

The border guard queried an erroneous stamp in my passport made by an ill informed and mistaken border cop. Those with RPs do not have stamps in their passports on entry/exit.

I said it was a mistake by her colleagues. She seemed to accept that.

However, her colleague took a picture of the stamp.

As these stamps are border guard specific, maybe that mistaken stamper will be sent for re-training.

Even now, they are still making mistakes.

Long queues and scams: Will the new EU entry system cause border chaos?

Chaotic disorganised bit included (my highlighting):

"

"Do I need a visa if I have a European identity card?

Non-EU nationals who have official residency in an EU country  may be exempt from the EES and ETIAS.

You need to have a biometric identity card, such as the carte de séjour in France or the carta di soggiorno in Italy.

These mean that you are also exempt from the 90-day limit.

However, no information has been released on how the automated barriers at borders would identify a traveller as an EU resident when using a non-EU passport".

My foreigners ID card says it's not valid for travel. Does it mean we will all get a new one that is valid for travel?

I am also wondering what Sunak has agreed with the EU over NI.

This is an interesting development:

Spain wants to scrap 90 day rule for British tourists, allowing them to stay indefinitely

If Spain gets its way, it would apply EU wide for UK citizens.

Maybe this could be a stepping stone to restoring a bit of "freedom of movement".

If Spain gets its way, it would apply EU wide for UK citizens.


-@fluffy2560

It wouldn't. But this is from November last year.

If Spain gets its way, it would apply EU wide for UK citizens.


-@fluffy2560

It wouldn't. But this is from November last year.
-@SimCityAT

Yes, I thought it was from last year too but it says in the header it was updated yesterday. It appeared in their "Just In" list. I know that's untrustworthy as an indicator of timing but they must have changed something. I didn't read it the November version so I don't know what changed and there's no revisions history.

But anyways, it would have to apply EU wide if Spain was to be able to push it with EU agreement as the 90-day limit is EU wide.

Makes you wonder what will happen to UK citizens being hassled with the ETAIS system if indefinitely time became possible. I can see the new face scanning and fingerprint readers at the airport - as yet unused.

Maybe with the changes in the NI agreement and therefore some rapprochement, there will be increasing flexibility with the UK and EU. Maybe UK and EU citizens eroded rights will return slowly and gradually. Although I wouldn't trust the EU to fight its way out of a paper bag, the war in UKR has made EU and EU neighbours solidarity more important than ever. 

Just been through BUD airport (again) and the border guard stamped my passport despite having an RP under Article 50.   When I remonstrated with him, he was indifferent to it. 

This seems like policy: either revenge or some other jobsworth purpose. It really annoys the hell out of me. Back to Border Guard school with the lot of them.

Now, with unnecessary stamps, I will be quizzed on another trip about why there's another entry stamp in my passport.

UK passport holders are 2nd class citizens in the Brexit EU.

No-one to complain to either.

Just been through BUD airport (again) and the border guard stamped my passport despite having an RP under Article 50.  When I remonstrated with him, he was indifferent to it.
This seems like policy: either revenge or some other jobsworth purpose. It really annoys the hell out of me. Back to Border Guard school with the lot of them.

Now, with unnecessary stamps, I will be quizzed on another trip about why there's another entry stamp in my passport.

UK passport holders are 2nd class citizens in the Brexit EU.

No-one to complain to either.
-@fluffy2560

It doesn't matter as your residency card over rides any stamps.

This might be good news for someone.......

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/ … tus-easier

Just been through BUD airport (again) and the border guard stamped my passport despite having an RP under Article 50. When I remonstrated with him, he was indifferent to it.
This seems like policy: either revenge or some other jobsworth purpose. It really annoys the hell out of me. Back to Border Guard school with the lot of them.

Now, with unnecessary stamps, I will be quizzed on another trip about why there's another entry stamp in my passport.

UK passport holders are 2nd class citizens in the Brexit EU.

No-one to complain to either.
-@fluffy2560

It doesn't matter as your residency card over rides any stamps.
-@SimCityAT

Yes, I know but I always get asked about it.  It's a hassle along with not being in the EU queue where interaction would be non-existent.    And the answer when quizzed is the same, you nincompoops don't know your own rules.  I also don't like them using up pages in my passport.

This might be good news for someone.......
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/ … tus-easier
-@SimCityAT

Interesting but for me, by the time they've finished blathering about it, I'd be entitled to it anyway.

What really gets me right now is time before in HU counts for nothing. I've said that before.  The Brexit untermensch residency clocks in HU were reset 1st January 2022.

I have to wait until 2027 to get the fabled EU card but by that time,  I could be retired and not that bovvered.  Thanks Boris.

Just been through BUD airport (again) and the border guard stamped my passport despite having an RP under Article 50. When I remonstrated with him, he was indifferent to it.
This seems like policy: either revenge or some other jobsworth purpose. It really annoys the hell out of me. Back to Border Guard school with the lot of them.

Now, with unnecessary stamps, I will be quizzed on another trip about why there's another entry stamp in my passport.

UK passport holders are 2nd class citizens in the Brexit EU.

No-one to complain to either.
-@fluffy2560

It doesn't matter as your residency card over rides any stamps.
-@SimCityAT

Yes, I know but I always get asked about it. It's a hassle along with not being in the EU queue where interaction would be non-existent.  And the answer when quizzed is the same, you nincompoops don't know your own rules. I also don't like them using up pages in my passport.
-@fluffy2560

I still use the EU lanes

This might be good news for someone.......
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/ … tus-easier
-@SimCityAT

Interesting but for me, by the time they've finished blathering about it, I'd be entitled to it anyway.

What really gets me right now is time before in HU counts for nothing. I've said that before. The Brexit untermensch residency clocks in HU were reset 1st January 2022.

I have to wait until 2027 to get the fabled EU card but by that time, I could be retired and not that bovvered. Thanks Boris.
-@fluffy2560

If you wanted to  go and live anywhere in the EU you can, but your wife must go with you.