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Naturalização - Name verification certificate

Last activity 04 November 2019 by CaninBrazil

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okieinscbr

Hey all! Hope everyone is having a great weekend.

I am here as a resident along w/my wife and we recently took our Celpe-Bras tests. Just one of a few things required to apply to naturalize as Brazilian citizens, but probably one of the hardest. We don't know the results 'til December, but feel confident. :D

But my question tonight is actually about another requirement. According to the document the PF gave me, one of the things required is:

> Certidão ou inscrição consular, emitida pela Embaixada ou Consulado no Brasil, comprovando a correta grafia do nome do interessado e de seus genitores

I realize this is just a statement from the consulate proving the correct spelling of my name and my parents' names, but I'm not sure what the official term is for this in English (or if one exists).

Have any Americans done this? How can I request this from the US consulate? Surely there are American citizens which naturalize every year as Brazilians, but strangely I can't find much info online about how to request this document.

Should I just email the consulate for info?

abthree

okienscbr,

Congrats on your CelpeBras -- quite a test, isn't it?  Hope you did well.

I don't see that requirement on the list for either  "Naturalização Ordinária" or "Naturalização Extraordinária", so I'm not sure where it's coming from.  But at any rate, you already had to prove all of that to obtain your CRNM (or CIE, if you received it before the 2017 legal changes), and the information appears there.  It would be worthwhile to ask the Polícia Federal if that satisfies the requirement. 
My application for naturalization is meandering through the process now, and that wasn't requested.

okieinscbr

Thanks for the info! Yeah, the Celpe-Bras was very exhausting. Really hope that's the last time I'll have to take it.

Our case is "Naturalização Ordinária". The PF here in Floripa is using a PDF document that I can't find on the PF website, but here's a screenshot of the PDF the officer gave me back in February. I can't find the requirement online so maybe they've updated since then.

Document the PF sent me: https://imgur.com/6OEFcLz

Good idea to ask the PF, I'll try and contact them well in advance. I just want to make sure and prevent any delays in the process once we're eligible to apply for citizenship.

Thanks again. :D

abthree

The link is held up for review.  It will probably be released tomorrow,  but you can try sending it to me in a private message, if you have it handy.

*ETA*  You probably have this already, but this is the current, printer-friendly list published on the Polícia Federal "Naturalização" web page:

http://www.pf.gov.br/servicos-pf/imigra … -ordinaria

abthree

BTW, the results for the May 2019 CelpeBras were published a week late, so don't panic if yours are delayed, too.  Your Registration page will be updated before the results are published in the Diário Oficial, so start checking that from the scheduled date on.  You'll also be able to print off your Certificate there,

okieinscbr

Ah, thank you! This is helpful.

Looks like the checklist that the PF sent me was up to date as of to the Portaria of 03 May 2018  (my link was approved above), and the one you linked is newer.

So I'm guessing the PF here was using an old one, and I'd expect they will update by February of next year. I might go ahead and check just in case, but this makes me feel a lot better, one less document to gather.

Other than the Celpe, it seems a lot easier to gather the required documents for naturalization than it is for residence. But maybe that's because it feels easier having lived here for a while now, and certain documents are easier to acquire now compared to before.

> BTW, the results for the May 2019 CelpeBras were published a week late, so don't panic if yours are delayed, too.  Your Registration page will be updated before the results are published in the Diário Oficial, so start checking that from the scheduled date on.  You'll also be able to print off your Certificate there,

This is also helpful, thanks! Wasn't sure if the certificate was thru the INEP site or just printing the results from the Diário Oficial. I've set some calendar reminders. :D

abthree

Probably a good guess.  I imagine that someone pointed out to them how many official Brazilian government documents, starting with every CIE/CRNM ever issued by the PF, that requirement throws into question.
A lot of the documents are easier:  I especially liked the fact that we can get our Brazilian state and federal criminal records online.  I had to time the FBI Background Check to late in our last visit to the US, though, to make sure that it was recent enough to be accepted.  That's the only really tricky part.
The CelpeBras cert is a nice one-pager that fits on a piece of A4 paper; it's an electronic certification, with instructions that let the PF or any other recipient confirm its authenticity online.  I saved the PDF on my computer, just to always have a local copy.  The PF scanned it into their system, and returned the hard copy to me, as they did with all the documents in my Naturalization file.

CaninBrazil

I am Canadian and went through the process of naturalization. As for the language test, it was a conversation followed with comprehension prt and expression your opinion on a newspaper article. I found mine rather easy.

As for your name, you must have a permanent resident card if you are already a permanent resident. It will list your name and the name of your parents. That is what they need. That information will also appear on your birth certificate, which you should have translated and motorized by a notary public, which you find in an 'escritorio'.

Note that you have the option to get your name changed to a more Brazilian sounding name if you wish.

The naturalization process was to take 6 months... typical of Brazilian administrative nightmare it took over 9 months before it appeared in the Nation's Journal and another two months to finally be able to get my ''citizenship'' card.

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