hepatitis B infection

I agree with you Sias.  If we will assume that the link and interpretation is correct, all of our friends who applied for New Visa since April 2009 should have passed the exam, whether if be non-food related jobs or simply housewives.

We need to clarify this thing so that others may no be misled and will not take the risk.

PLEASE NOTE THAT THERE IS NO ONE HERE IN THIS FORUM WHO APPLIED FOR NEW VISA WAS ABLE TO SECURE FIT CERTIFICATE.

AS OF THIS DATE, ALL NEW VISA FOUND WITH HBV ARE DEPORTED. 

SO FAR, NO PROBLEM WITH THE RENEWALS.

Bunty,

I'm pretty sure you did not read the whole forum. These are the facts that I have the knowledge when I read from page 1:

1.  A least 15 expats on this forum were given UNFIT because of Hepa;
2.  Out of this 15 expats, 9 of them were deported, and 3 of them were BANNED.  Some of them requested to cancel their visa application to avoid being Banned;
3.  The profession of those 15 persons are not related to Food handling like Accountant, Sales, Finance, IT, Engineer and some are housewives.

And I repeat, as of this date NO ONE PASS THE EXAM FOR NEW VISA APPLICATION and ALL VISA RENEWALS PASSED THE EXAM EXCEPT FOR 2 EXPATS WHO ARE ENGAGED IN FOOD-RELATED JOB.

I do hope this will clear the case.

Hope u all are doing well, pls note the following details abt this issue:

1. any person if he or she is applying for new visa first time or after cancellation of their visa and he/she stayed out side the UAE........VERY CLEAR NO VISA will be granted to them.

2. any person who will transfer the visa (other than food, sallon, medical etc)means they got new job and changing the company they will get new visa after the discussed procedure (some required papers like old visa details along with new visa etc etc will be examined).

3. for renewal no problem even they will not check hepa....these rules are ut to date.

Thanx

hi idel

i came to uae on oct 4 2008 with my husband on residence visa and was deported and have been banned life long bcoz of hep b.that means the law have come under rule from 2008 itself not 2009.

anyway whoever will apply for a new visa/residence visa will get deported and will be banned life long.but for visa renewal you will get cleared and there is no problem.this deportation and banning is applicable only for new visa applications.

jill13 wrote:

JhannaElle wrote:

2 months to go and counting......im really anxious of my visa renewal. May Allah protect us!

can i ask you about the visa transfer is it possible to transfer sponsorship from dubai to abudhabi? does it need a medical check? thanks!!! May god bless u and help you to pass the medical

Hi jill13, sorry for late reply. Im really not familiar with this visa process and I am waiting for my first renewal in June and feeling so uneasy each day. Im just relying on personal experiences of other people here. I hope other people can help you with your concern but I suggest you read the first pages and follow the thread will give you so much information. Thank you for your wishes. I wish for everyone too.

Idel wrote:

JhannaElle wrote:

2 months to go and counting......im really anxious of my visa renewal. May Allah protect us!

hi Jhanna,

May I know your line of profession and the industry of your company?
I'll pray for you! God Bless!

Hello there Idel, base on my visa it is mentioned as Sales Representative while my labour card says I am working as archives clerk. My company has something to do with animal health industry. Just another trading company. Thank you for your prayers, means a lot to me. I am praying for everyone too.

rafeekmk wrote:

JhannaElle wrote:

2 months to go and counting......im really anxious of my visa renewal. May Allah protect us!

is there any prob for renewal???  i think hbsag is a problem only for new visa.

Hello rafeekmk, apparently everyone says there will be no problem for renewal but i cant describe why I am always feeling this. Guess im just feeling so disturbed when it comes to clinics, medical tests, and all this stuff. I am just so scared. and I cant help it.

annefrank wrote:

hi idel

i came to uae on oct 4 2008 with my husband on residence visa and was deported and have been banned life long bcoz of hep b.that means the law have come under rule from 2008 itself not 2009.

anyway whoever will apply for a new visa/residence visa will get deported and will be banned life long.but for visa renewal you will get cleared and there is no problem.this deportation and banning is applicable only for new visa applications.

You are right Annefrank.  The law was introduced on April 21, 2008 and was implemented on July 1, 2008 (the dates are based on published article in Gulfnews). And in my opinion, it is not strictly implemented on July because I was able to pass the medical exam despite of being a Carrier when I took the medical on 2nd week of July. I assume it was fully and strictly implemented on maybe August-September 2008.

Please note that I only mentioned the date April 2009 onwards on my previous post, because Bunty1001 is giving the news posted on DOHMS Website which was last updated on April 1, 2009.

Hi JhannaElle,

If we are going to rely on all the postings starting from Page 1, you have 100% chance that your visa will be renewed.  All expats who renewed their visa secured their Fit Certificate and are still working in the UAE.  There are only 2 unlucky expats who were deported because they work as Food Handlers.

I hope this will give you some peace of mind.

Hi guys,

Here is my case and I hope it will give you sone hints.

I've been working in Dubai since 2007, and changed my visa last month without going abroad. I took the first blood test on 31/3/2010 at Al Baraha Hospital, and got the second on 4/4/2010. By then I aware that I could get into some trouble. So I found this furom and information inside is really useful. The report came out on 7/4/2010, "medically unfit". Well, I shall say the officer who is handling my case is a real nice old man. After I told him that I changed visa but did not leave UAE, he checked the stamp on my passport "visa position amendment", and told me to bring the copy of new visa and passport as long as the original one. So after 2 hours I submitted to him the above mentioned papers on 8/4/2010, I got the health certificate.

Here is the conclusion:
1. Instead of cancell your visa, renew it.
2. If you have cancelled, change your visa inside UAE.
3. Never lie it to your PRO, do it all by yourself.

Wish all of you good luck.

hi harry, congrats! can you clarify if your visa is renewal or you transfer to another company?

Idel wrote:

hi harry, congrats! can you clarify if your visa is renewal or you transfer to another company?

Hi Idel,

My previous visa already expired and I've changed to another company. Instead of transferring the visa, I cancelled my previous visa and make a new one. (Transferring fee is too high to believe!)

any updates on the new law. When would it take effect

Hi!I just been there in UAE for almost 5 mos. only due to my medical result, they deported me.

yes. unexpectedly i am positive in hepa b, ok.I will share u what i had experienced there,. last march, i underwent medical for my residence visa, yup. I was shocked to the result that i am positive in hepa B, because before I used to work in a Restaurant here in the Philippines, I was cleared in all tests.

My boss felt sad also about what happened. he didn;t even get mad to me. he said it was not my fault.

I took a second opinion, my father and I went to Iranian hospital to have a hepa b test again. the filipina told me I have a possibility of negative result because of the lease counts.. She even tested for 3 times. then sadly, the verdict was really positive so the doctor took the result, and JUDGED me right away that I got it through SEX. YES I FELT MAD AND DEPRIVED. I don't have a boyfriend,. I cried wehen I got home. there's no need toreason out to the doctor. all i'm thinking were how come and my dreams ruined everything just a snap/ one click.


My sponsor and my boss coudn't do about my situation, I'm banned. and they're not sure how long it is. My boss told me that he would do everything to lift the bann.he told me he have friends in the immigration. yes, partly i'm still holding to his promises, yet knowing that it's impossible. I arrived here in the philippines last April 1,.

My boss keep asking me about the updates in my check-up here, last weds. i went to my doctor and took the COMPLETE HEPA PROFILE and LIVER PROFILE.and the result were, I AM HEALTHY as well as my liver, and it's uncnontagiou, even when i gave birth i cannot pass it to my future baby,.

Moreover,My doctor, referred me to gastro specialist, so by this monday, I have a follow up check up. They said he's the one who can make the Certification about my health status, I hope we can make these all fix. I still have dreams. even my boss doesn;t want me to lose. he even want me to hire again that;s why he promised me that he will find ways.


I'll keep[ u update.

God bless u all.

I need ur prayers.

Hi Idel/All,
I live and work in Doha, Qatar and I am also Hepa B positive but it's inactive from birth. I just got job offer from an American company in Abu Dhabi. When you said "No one got fit certificate for new visa", does that mean all was rejected or no one applied? Would you recommend discussing with my new sponsor or I should just decline the offer. Please note I really enjoyed reading all the posting and found very informative. I will highly consider your advice, as I don’t like to be rejected or worse deported

Koosh wrote:

Hi Idel/All,
I live and work in Doha, Qatar and I am also Hepa B positive but it's inactive from birth. I just got job offer from an American company in Abu Dhabi. When you said "No one got fit certificate for new visa", does that mean all was rejected or no one applied? Would you recommend discussing with my new sponsor or I should just decline the offer. Please note I really enjoyed reading all the posting and found very informative. I will highly consider your advice, as I don’t like to be rejected or worse deported

Dear Koosh,

As I have said before, no has here has ever passed for the medical for New Visa. I keep on track with all the postings from the very beginning, so I am pretty sure that many persons applied and were deported. I'm sorry but what I can recommend is not to take the risk while we are all still waiting for the law to be amended. 

Also try to discuss with your sponsor maybe we can get some information through them.  I am not sure that your sponsor can help you because you have a very slim chance to get the residence visa considering the cases discussed in this forum.  But at least we can get some clarification.  By doing so, you will be informing your sponsor that you are interested to accept the job, so that in the future, if the UAE law will be amended, you can still contact them and re-negotiate. All the best!

To harri5on193,

I've been working in Dubai since 2007, and changed my visa last month without going abroad. I took the first blood test on 31/3/2010 at Al Baraha Hospital, and got the second on 4/4/2010. By then I aware that I could get into some trouble. So I found this furom and information inside is really useful. The report came out on 7/4/2010, "medically unfit". Well, I shall say the officer who is handling my case is a real nice old man. After I told him that I changed visa but did not leave UAE, he checked the stamp on my passport "visa position amendment", and told me to bring the copy of new visa and passport as long as the original one. So after 2 hours I submitted to him the above mentioned papers on 8/4/2010, I got the health certificate.

Here is the conclusion:
1. Instead of cancell your visa, renew it.
2. If you have cancelled, change your visa inside UAE.
3. Never lie it to your PRO, do it all by yourself.

Just want to make clarification on your post above:
1. did u make your medical test alone, you go to the medical center without your PRO?
2. are you the one who get the result from the center from the start so that your PRO dont know anything about the negative result of your medical?
3."the officer who is handling my case is a real nice old man"...this old man, is he the doctor who conducted your medical test, do you have his name, coz maybe all others who will take their medical test soon can go to this person

You are very lucky since you were able to pass the medical test, sharing your experience would be very useful to all of us here in this forum. We can overcome all trials regarding our hepa b problem if we all help each other.
Hope to hear from you soon, god bless, thanks.

betsybub127,

1. I make medical test all by myself, just take two copy of your visa & passport and your original passport, 3 photos, pay the money and making typing, very easy.
2. Since I did the test by myself, I collected the report as well. PRO didn't involve to this.
3. I think he is a officer from MOH or Baraha Hospitol, not a doctor. If your HBsAg is positive, I'm sure you will see him in Room 8. He is the one to tell you: sorry, you have Hepa...

Hi Harri,
How high is the transfer price because of which you took this risk. So when transfer is done there is no medical?

Regards,

harri5on193 wrote:

Idel wrote:

hi harry, congrats! can you clarify if your visa is renewal or you transfer to another company?

Hi Idel,

My previous visa already expired and I've changed to another company. Instead of transferring the visa, I cancelled my previous visa and make a new one. (Transferring fee is too high to believe!)

Cheekoo,

According to my PRO, transfer fee would be 6000 AED, and if the visa is still within 3 years, you have to pay another 3000 AED as a fine to labor authority.

Frankly, I made the decision before I knew there is a new decree about HBV. And I even felt regret about it, coz in my case I have to pay 5000 AED as changing new visa inside UAE, just to save 1000...

Fortunately, the door is still open for me. Thank god.

Idel wrote:

Hi JhannaElle,

If we are going to rely on all the postings starting from Page 1, you have 100% chance that your visa will be renewed.  All expats who renewed their visa secured their Fit Certificate and are still working in the UAE.  There are only 2 unlucky expats who were deported because they work as Food Handlers.

I hope this will give you some peace of mind.

Thank you for this Idel, I will keep you posted on my results.

Wow. Thats a alot. Harri what about the medical. They dont do any medical for VISA transfer?

Regards,

harri5on193 wrote:

Cheekoo,

According to my PRO, transfer fee would be 6000 AED, and if the visa is still within 3 years, you have to pay another 3000 AED as a fine to labor authority.

Frankly, I made the decision before I knew there is a new decree about HBV. And I even felt regret about it, coz in my case I have to pay 5000 AED as changing new visa inside UAE, just to save 1000...

Fortunately, the door is still open for me. Thank god.

Dear All,
Thanks to all for sharing important information which is really helpfull for the people who is suffering hepa problem and considering to residence in UAE.

I am from bangladesh but i m living in london more than three and half year. I am thinking to move Dubai, Abudhabi or sharja as an employement visa. But after reading this forum I am really concious what should I do. Please guide me,,,,

My Hbsag is positive hbeag and HBvdna is negative so far. whether I would eligible to get residence visa for dubai, sharjah or abudhabi as I have hbsag positive.

I would appreciate your comments,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Thanks
Sahil

Dear Sahil, if you read the views of the others in this forum, the ministry will check whether you are positive for HBsAG. In my opinion, it's better not to enter the country and get deported. In the future, if you are planning to come on a mission / visit visa and work for a while and leave, you will lose the chance. Just think twice. I suggest to follow up the forum and wait for the new updates.

Cheekoo,

No matter renewal or transfer, there should be a medical test.

Please read the previous posts by Idel or SIAS.

The difference is they would not check Hepa B in renewal or transfer case, unless the occupation is in the concerned list, such as food, babysitter, etc.

Dear DingDong,
Thanks for your information. Do you have any idea about oman or saudia arabia do they check hbsag before they issue residency visa or that is the same like dubai or Abudhabi.

Dear Koosh,

Sorry dear but Idle given you a clear picture as new visa.

Please let me know, is Hepa B is not included in qater medical examinaiton for visa? as you are working there since long time.

or any buddy knows which GCC countries does allow to Hep b Carrier in as new visa.

Regards

hi freedubai

u just gave many id.you didnt explain what to do.please give a clear picture.

Here is the conclusion:
1. Instead of cancell your visa, renew it.
2. If you have cancelled, change your visa inside UAE.
3. Never lie it to your PRO, do it all by yourself.

Wish all of you good luck.

Hi Idel,

My previous visa already expired and I've changed to another company. Instead of transferring the visa, I cancelled my previous visa and make a new one. (Transferring fee is too high to believe!)

To Harrison,

I'm still bit confused with your xplanation, in ur conclusion u mentioned "instead cancell ur visa u need to renew it"

and on your other xplanation that u cancell ur visa n make new one. Also with that fee amount is that just for u to renew or transfer d visa ?

Thanks


thx

Does anybody know where is Vengates n about his update information from MOH, is his wife got residence visa?

freedubai wrote:

Send your concerns to these persons. (Be Polite Pls)

azarouni@moh.gov.ae
dr.abdelkarimz@moh.gov.ae
ibrahimaq@moh.gov.ae
mboard.csc@moh.gov.ae
miu@moh.gov.ae

Thanks, freedubai.  I will try to send email, hopefully we can get clear answers from them.

freedubai wrote:

Send your concerns to these persons. (Be Polite Pls)

azarouni@moh.gov.ae
dr.abdelkarimz@moh.gov.ae
ibrahimaq@moh.gov.ae
mboard.csc@moh.gov.ae
miu@moh.gov.ae

Dear All,

I think, this email address will be helpful to us.  May I suggest everybody to please make their comments/appeal/suggestions that we can addressed to MOH. But please be polite and courteous with our words.  It will be more effective if the complains appeal or comments that they will receive will come from different persons, so that MOH will be informed that there are a number of expats who wants to have clear answer as to UAE Law on HBV Carriers.

I also suggest to copy this forum's link on every email for their reference.  For those who are afraid to reveal their identity for fear of deportation, please create new e-mail that you can use to send your question/complains.

Let us do everybody's part.  This is our chance.  Thanks again freedubai.

shoegal wrote:

Here is the conclusion:
1. Instead of cancell your visa, renew it.
2. If you have cancelled, change your visa inside UAE.
3. Never lie it to your PRO, do it all by yourself.

Wish all of you good luck.

Hi Idel,

My previous visa already expired and I've changed to another company. Instead of transferring the visa, I cancelled my previous visa and make a new one. (Transferring fee is too high to believe!)

To Harrison,

I'm still bit confused with your xplanation, in ur conclusion u mentioned "instead cancell ur visa u need to renew it"

and on your other xplanation that u cancell ur visa n make new one. Also with that fee amount is that just for u to renew or transfer d visa ?

Thanks


thx

Hi shoegal,

My conclusion is not what I tell u to do, it's my suggestion. Just because I cancelled my visa, I have to prepare more files and cost me more time. So if u could renew your visa, renew it. This is the best choice. And if u have cancelled your visa like me, then change your visa inside UAE, u will still have a chance like me.

I think this would be clear enough.

Koosh
please provide HepB requirements for Qatar
thanks

Dear All,
Can anybody tell me about saudia arabia, oman and kwait do they do the hbsag test for employement visa.

Sahil

freedubai wrote:
Send your concerns to these persons. (Be Polite Pls)

azarouni@moh.gov.ae
dr.abdelkarimz@moh.gov.ae
ibrahimaq@moh.gov.ae
mboard.csc@moh.gov.ae
miu@moh.gov.ae

hi friends

i have already sent my concerns to the above id given by freedubai.i would like to suggest others in this forum to sent their comments to above ids.i think that by sending our suggestions or comments or questions it will be very helpful for the uae moh to take any decision against our cases.

universal12 wrote:

Koosh
please provide HepB requirements for Qatar
thanks

Hello All
I was born with HepB, My HBeAg is Negative, but my HBsAG is reactive. I come to Doha in 2006 and did my medical test and got my resident visa. I am not sure if the law apply only to specific profession, but YES they do test HepB.

Hi All,
I've read every page of this forum and wished I read it just a bit earlier, perhaps it would have helped my situation. Allow me to share with you as my case is a little different.

I have been living and working in Dubai and Abu Dhabi for more than 4 years. My most recent residency visa was done in a free zone (still not sure if that matters) in May 2008. I am an engineer with a british passport.

With the nature of my work, I move projects within UAE often. My most recent client is in Abu Dhabi and has requested that we all (non AD residents) convert our visa's to AD to remain working on their project. So my company proceeded to cancel my Dubai visa and apply for Abu Dhabi visa.

Within a few days, I was told, by my surprise, that I am HBsAg positive and company has asked for me to leave so they can cancel the visa and not make too much trouble with the authorities. I am able to return with a visit visa no problem (a back-wards law in my opinion).  I am now in my home country, getting to the root of this new found virus and am not dangerous to anyone, its inactive (like most people on this forum).

I have recently asked my HR if my previous Dubai was attached to the new application, so that would have helped my case I believe. Otherwise they are looking at it as a new applicant. I have also found a doctor who can talk to me upon my return and remain my confidentiality (because I will be a visitor, non resident). Its not wise to leave a track record under your name with this virus. Additionally, I don't think it would be wise to write a petition to MOH, as they are trying to rid of this disease from the country yes? What we need to show is that the business and our employers are suffering from lack of good employees with the recent new law. My HR told me they have been suffering losing a lot of good people to it, and hope the law will change soon. Having various doctors reports also will help in our case.

I noticed there are a few people interested in working in other places around the Gulf (as I am also) such as Oman. And I haven't seen any confirmation of visa requirements for there. Does anyone know?

My dreams and goals have also been suddenly shattered as I was sent home feeling like a sluggish virus person. Its embarrassing and unnecessary. The doctors in my home country are all puzzled with this treatment. More than 1/3 of the world's population are affected, but its not life threatening as long as you take care of yourself. I hate the judgement in people's eyes when they find out. Its awful.

My HR spoke to the health ministry and they have told them this law is meant to be amended within 30 days from last week. I'm not sure how true that is, but am hoping.
I am also making appointments with my embassy to see if they can guide me. I will keep all of you informed on my progress.

Thanks,
Tiger

Hi Arabian Tiger,
Thanks for your update, hope law will change and we will get chance to work their. As like you I am also trying to find out whether oman, saudia Arabia and kwait do they do same medical check up as like Dubai or Abu dhabi(HBsAg Test). If anybody has any idea about oman, saudia arabia and kwait please do update us.

hello, does anyone know if an investor visa will checked hepa b as well? Thank you guys. God Bless us all..