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S Pass Rejected (due to quota) Applying E Pass

Last activity 11 April 2022 by Guest123078

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andybarr

I'm really sorry if there's a thread similar with this, maybe I just cant find it.
Here's my story and I kinda needed some advice.

Boss applied S Pass and Rejected (due to covid) and appealed. But it was rejected due to quota.
(My boss overlooked and thought we have quota)
Anyway, we applied for E Pass and was rejected due to covid.

So will be appealing, but they asked few documents:
1) My 3 months bank statement (stating my name and account number) and 3 months payslip = I was working in Singapore for 8 Years. Just resign not very long.
2) My latest Notice of Assessment.
3) Letter from the employer that reason why my salary was increased (Spass 2800 to Epass 6500 = My last drawn salary was $4200)
4) New employment contract
5) Job description.

This are the documents they needed from us, Well we have them well prepared and will be submitting them next week.

My questions are:
1) Anyone here had the same scenario with mine? Spass rejected and Epass submitted.
2) The company is not super big but have 8 locals, 1 E Pass, currently. Would  this affect the result?
3) My job scope is the same as my previous job. But title now is Chief Admin Executive. Does title affect the result?
4) I was S Pass holder for 8 years and never changed employer. Will this have an issue?

AGAIN, sorry if I have this posted in a wrong thread or New topic. Thanks and Stay Safe everyone :)

surya2k

It has been advised in past in several occasions that any appeal must have rationale. Your employer need to present why their want to hire a foreigner for this job. Did this job post in job bank and locals were considered? What’s rationale to hike salary from $4800 to $6500? MoM can see your S pass was applied with salary of $2800 but after rejection the same company now applying with salary of $6500. They will suspect the company is not offering genuine salary to you and there is something fishy here. Chances are very unlikely that your appeal will be accepted. Better start looking for a new employer. Good luck

andybarr

surya2k wrote:

It has been advised in past in several occasions that any appeal must have rationale. Your employer need to present why their want to hire a foreigner for this job. Did this job post in job bank and locals were considered? What’s rationale to hike salary from $4800 to $6500? MoM can see your S pass was applied with salary of $2800 but after rejection the same company now applying with salary of $6500. They will suspect the company is not offering genuine salary to you and there is something fishy here. Chances are very unlikely that your appeal will be accepted. Better start looking for a new employer. Good luck


Hi. Thanks for your reply. Before my job was to be an assistant of the manager but now he would put me as the chief admin that will handle all corporate secretarial jobs. He was giving me more responsibilities and will take AML exam as well for additional skill. $2800 is normal job and $6500 handles everything.

I was trying to read other scenario, but seems I'm the only one MOM asked for this few documents which includes my Notice of Assessment and Bank Statement. I'm guessing its because they wanted to know if I was receiving $4200 amount with my previous company (which I was we are under GIRO salary) and my NOA, I have been paying yearly tax. We have read the qualification and all, it seems like I am eligible for it. 8 Years in Singapore (1 employer only never changed). my salary there was from 2,200 and gradually increase as year goes by.

Anonymousjane

Sorry to say this but your situation sounds so fishy. I am sure MOM has also found something amiss in this whole thing, however genuine it maybe.

Firstly, you are going from an existing salary of 4.2K to 2.8K. A huge downgrade there. S Pass application was then rejected. Now the new company can increase it to 6.5K all of a sudden, of course MOM won't buy this. If they could pay that, why not find a local previously given the role doesnt sound like it requires any specific skillset. Plus did they advertise the new "updated" role and pay on jobsbank or attempt to find a local for the new high salary scale, given it is an admin role, which should go to locals in the first place. The entire deal sounds dubious because it is not $100/200 raise but thousands.

Second, MOM might also be suspicious over how you could agree on such big changes of salary , 4.2 to 2.8 and then to 6.5. Theý are most probably trying to investigate if there were any kick back scheme here of you returning some portion of your salary in agreement of the job previously with your previous employer.

andybarr

Anonymousjane wrote:

Sorry to say this but your situation sounds so fishy. I am sure MOM has also found something amiss in this whole thing, however genuine it maybe.

Firstly, you are going from an existing salary of 4.2K to 2.8K. A huge downgrade there. S Pass application was then rejected. Now the new company can increase it to 6.5K all of a sudden, of course MOM won't buy this. If they could pay that, why not find a local previously given the role doesnt sound like it requires any specific skillset. Plus did they advertise the new "updated" role and pay on jobsbank or attempt to find a local for the new high salary scale, given it is an admin role, which should go to locals in the first place. The entire deal sounds dubious because it is not $100/200 raise but thousands.

Second, MOM might also be suspicious over how you could agree on such big changes of salary , 4.2 to 2.8 and then to 6.5. Theý are most probably trying to investigate if there were any kick back scheme here of you returning some portion of your salary in agreement of the job previously with your previous employer.


Hi thanks for the reply. Ya i was thinking of that also. 4.2 to 2.8 is because my job scope was assistant.

2.8 to 6.5 because now I will be Corporate Secretary (Which as per ACRA Epass holder can be Corporate Secretary, Spass cannot be working in behalf of the Director.

Jobsbank applicable for staff above 10 employees less than not really. Employer advertise but no suitable employee so he choose me.

Company background is good, as he reported his updated yearly revenue at MOM before applying. Previous Job, nope, my pay was 4.2 all the while, got my bank statement for proof and NOA as they requested as well.

So anxious already :(

Anonymousjane

All I would say is look for another job. I encountered a small company that messed up with my EP App almost 1.5 yrs ago. It got rejected due to their silly mistake in the designation they selected in the form. They re-appealed with correction but it didnt work. They wanted to then try for S Pass or a second appeal but i turned them down because I didnt want them to mess my record further with more rejections. I had trust on my credentials but not theirs.

I found a new job with a SME paying 20% lesser than the small start up and my EP was approved in less than a week. Hence, it was not a salary or job issue, rather the previous company was just not strong enough to get me my EP and made mistakes in trying to apply for it. They had good turnover and such but still lacked credentials I guess.

In your case, not knowing their own S Pass quota and trying to manipulate MOM by changing designations and salary just shows how inexperienced they are. You think MOM is gonna buy their story that they could not find a local corp secretary and decided to almost 3x up your salary and designation after the S Pass was rejected?

It is better to focus on other companies.

beppi

I agree to what the other posters wroe above.
It is entirely unbelievable that a reasonable person accepts a pay cut from S$4200 to S$2800/month (minus 33%), which means he would be grossly underpaid (if the pevious salary was in line with market value). I believe this was one of the rejection reasons.
And it is even more unbelievable that an employer who at first valued you at S$2800 is now willing to pay S$6500/month (132% more) for the same person's work.
Cut your contact with this strange employer before they mess up your record with MoM even further!

Ehmsoblessed

Hello Andybarr, I am on the same situation. I was also asked for the same documents and now my appeal is still pending. Was your appeal approved? Hoping for your reply.

Soulsoy09

Hi,

I had a similar situation with salary hike. Being a huge increase, MOM will seek to justify it is all good and not fake. They did ask for 3 months bank statement and notice of assessment. Everything was justified with our docs and they took close to 2 months to give us an outcome. This was for my salary update.

In the end after rejection and reason being company does not show financial support for this, and advised to update during next renewal. We renewed my pass as it was in renewal time frame, and everything was approved in 2 days, with new salary.

If MOM finds things out of the ordinary, they will be checking a lot of things and waiting time will be very long. Need to make sure it is all legit. Good luck!

Guest123078
Hi,

I am from Sri Lanka. I have got a job offer from a company and they have applied Spass for me. They applied it on Monday (28.04.2022)  and today company informed me that the application was rejected due to lack of quota. Even during the period I couldn't see my application on MOM portal.

In that case employer asked me whether is it okay to changing the designation and re-apply with the same scope of work and salary will be proceed. As this is my very first S pass application I need a guidance on this? Please help me! :(
Shekhz
Change salary or designation, but how would that impact the S Pass quota? Quota doesn’t get impacted. Am I missing something?
Guest123078
@Shekhz
Yeah I am also confused why they have stated like that.
"As the earlier application have been rejected due to lack of quota and we are trying to put in another job description to see if that would be approve." This what exactly I have recieved from the employer.
This won't work isn't it?
beppi
Rakshikaravi: This employer seems not to know the work pass rules. I think you should look for another, more experienced company instead!
Guest123078

@beppi Thank you for your response. :)

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