Traveling Back To California

Until there's a vaccine, there's always a risk. Right now is a particularly bad time, due to accelerating new cases. Of course, that's also happening in Brazil.
But it's the travel itself that's even more risky. I'm reading that Airlines are not social-distancing passengers, nor requiring masks. Stuck in a crowded space for probably 20-30 hours, breathing recirculated air with questionable filtering, touching shared surfaces.
If it were me, I'd have to have an urgent reason to travel. I'd check the airline's COVID-19 health and safety policy. I'd pay through the nose and put myself in the 1st class section. And then I would take all possible personal safety measures.

I will add that you may have enhanced screening returning from Brazil. This requires testing and discussions with health officials. You may be asked to self-quarantine for 14 days.
Last thing I heard:
"In an enhanced health screening, medical professionals and members of the Customs and Border Patrol (CBP) will ask travelers for their medical history and assess their current condition. They will also collect contact information for local health authorities. If they are deemed healthy, they will receive written information about COVID-19 before they are allowed to proceed to their final destination. Upon arrival, they will be required to self-quarantine for 14 days.

“To minimize disruptions to travelers, TSA, CBP, and air carriers are working to identify qualifying passengers before their scheduled flights,” DHS Acting Secretary Chad F. Wolf said. “I understand this new process will be disruptive to some travelers, however, this action is needed to protect the general public from further exposure and spread of the coronavirus. Once back in the U.S. it is imperative that individuals honor self-quarantine directives to help protect their loved ones and communities.”
Expect long delays.

Sheltering in place:

Shoot, I hate going to the local grocery store right now! And if your trip back is temporary what's to say you might not get stuck in CA? I guess it all depends on where you prefer being stuck and how much your willing to be involved in the transportation method where you are most likely to be exposed.

I'm inland in Paraíba. I have everything I need right here and I have no plans to go ANYWHERE until this storm gets figured out a bit better.

If your in good health and can handle 28 days of self (14 in each place) quarantine and coming out of Brasil now approaching its height , it is totally do able..if you taking care of yourself and manage you should be fine..I am not afraid of the conditions flying, just the BS involved.. As of now Brasil and the States are at the same level...its a personal decision..at 64 years of age there are not many things I fear and #19 is not on my fear list
.good luck, practice hygiene you should be fine...

What's the meaning of self quarantine here?  Does it mean that You will be sent your way after arriving and officials both in Brazil and US will believe your word that you'll self quarantine? What if you don't do it?

stevewaugh786 wrote:

What's the meaning of self quarantine here?  Does it mean that You will be sent your way after arriving and officials both in Brazil and US will believe your word that you'll self quarantine? What if you don't do it?

I think one has to pay for a ankle monitor. ..lol.....

I take it to mean the person is just being vigilant and doing only what is necessary for the days, they may do contact tracing, basic needs met,food,water,shelter.
I don't think it would be anything other than normal for my activities theses days...grocery store ,home , order in food...lol..
Maybe it's self discipline , people are reporting people these days?..

Knowing the system one will have to check in now..in the USA and Brasil....

If you have a direct flight from BR you will be checked and hope no fever or systems and on the way. When reaching the US entry point you will:
"In an enhanced health screening, medical professionals and members of the Customs and Border Patrol (CBP) will ask travelers for their medical history and assess their current condition. They will also collect contact information for local health authorities. If they are deemed healthy, they will receive written information about COVID-19 before they are allowed to proceed to their final destination. Upon arrival, they will be required to self-quarantine for 14 days.
As it mentions CSP will advise your destination and that destination will monitor your " 14 day quarantine in house",

Texanbrazil wrote:

If you have a direct flight from BR you will be checked and hope no fever or systems and on the way. When reaching the US entry point you will:
"In an enhanced health screening, medical professionals and members of the Customs and Border Patrol (CBP) will ask travelers for their medical history and assess their current condition. They will also collect contact information for local health authorities. If they are deemed healthy, they will receive written information about COVID-19 before they are allowed to proceed to their final destination. Upon arrival, they will be required to self-quarantine for 14 days.
As it mentions CSP will advise your destination and that destination will monitor your " 14 day quarantine in house",

Dayuuum, that's it in a nutshell....good info.....with both countries having the "Lock Up" syndrome and September flu season begins....I may travel a year from now by plane, by then there should be some knowledge of WTFACE. ...lol....

I expect no relief before September either here or the States. ......I think I will do Brasil for now....lol...

Need to Beach, Lobster,Shrimp,Prime Rib.....get this koko ova......

News One Maybe able to use......

Health Alert – U.S. Embassy Brasilia, Brazil (July 8, 2020)

Location: Brazil

Event: Clarification on Required Medical Declaration to Eenter Brazil

On June 30, Brazil extended for an additional 30 days (through July 29) the decree banning foreigners from entering the country by air, land, and sea. Please see our previous message for a list of exemptions.

Please note that exempted travelers by air must arrive at the following international airports (São Paulo International Airport, Tom Jobim International Airport in Rio de Janeiro, Viracapos International Airport in Campinhas, and Brasilia International Airport) and passengers must present a medical declaration from a health authority or doctor that attests they do not have COVID-19.

The U.S. Embassy in Brasilia would like to share some clarification from the Brazilian National Health Surveillance Agency (Anvisa) regarding this requirement:

Traveler’s must present a medical declaration issued by a health authority or a local doctor that certifies that the passenger is not infected with the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus (covid-19).  Test results alone will not be accepted.  The doctor’s declaration may be in English, Spanish, or Portuguese.  There is no specific template for the declaration.  The Brazilian Government recommends that the traveler have the medical declaration with the date as close as possible to the day of departure.

Commercial flights between the United States and Brazil continue to run on a regular basis.  As flights are subject to change, please contact airlines directly for the most current schedule information. Travelers to the United States from Brazil may encounter unexpected delays during the check in and boarding process and are advised to arrive atto the airport earlier than normally recommended. We continue to encourage U.S. citizens who wish to return to the United States to make commercial flight arrangements as soon as possible unless they are prepared to remain abroad for an indefinite period.  The U.S. government does not currently anticipate arranging repatriation flights from Brazil.

Actions to Take:

Review the June 30 Brazilian government announcement (in Portuguese) here.

Thanks for the info. I knew about the test before flying to Sao Paulo together with Brazilian wife 2 cats and 6 suitcases! I will have to visit my doctor and get this declaration when we decide to do the jump to Brazil sometime end of October.

Alascana wrote:

News One Maybe able to use......

Health Alert – U.S. Embassy Brasilia, Brazil (July 8, 2020)

Location: Brazil

Event: Clarification on Required Medical Declaration to Eenter Brazil

On June 30, Brazil extended for an additional 30 days (through July 29) the decree banning foreigners from entering the country by air, land, and sea. Please see our previous message for a list of exemptions.

Please note that exempted travelers by air must arrive at the following international airports (São Paulo International Airport, Tom Jobim International Airport in Rio de Janeiro, Viracapos International Airport in Campinhas, and Brasilia International Airport) and passengers must present a medical declaration from a health authority or doctor that attests they do not have COVID-19.

The U.S. Embassy in Brasilia would like to share some clarification from the Brazilian National Health Surveillance Agency (Anvisa) regarding this requirement:

Traveler’s must present a medical declaration issued by a health authority or a local doctor that certifies that the passenger is not infected with the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus (covid-19).  Test results alone will not be accepted.  The doctor’s declaration may be in English, Spanish, or Portuguese.  There is no specific template for the declaration.  The Brazilian Government recommends that the traveler have the medical declaration with the date as close as possible to the day of departure.

Commercial flights between the United States and Brazil continue to run on a regular basis.  As flights are subject to change, please contact airlines directly for the most current schedule information. Travelers to the United States from Brazil may encounter unexpected delays during the check in and boarding process and are advised to arrive atto the airport earlier than normally recommended. We continue to encourage U.S. citizens who wish to return to the United States to make commercial flight arrangements as soon as possible unless they are prepared to remain abroad for an indefinite period.  The U.S. government does not currently anticipate arranging repatriation flights from Brazil.

Actions to Take:

Review the June 30 Brazilian government announcement (in Portuguese) here.

Does it mean that you just need a  FIT TO FLY letter from a doctor which says that you don't have COVID-19 ? And no need the results of an actual COVID test?

Does it mean that you just need a  FIT TO FLY letter from a doctor which says that you don't have COVID-19 ? And no need the results of an actual COVID test?


I think it's make it up as you go, no fear of traveling, just that mask thing, thinking BD Cooper...lol....
The 28 days quarentine. ..14 there,14 return....