c19 vaccine

Not for a while.  The registration for the first group was closed after more than 200 volunteers signed up for 60 spots.  Out of those 60, only 3 were given their first shots yesterday at the Military Medical Research Institute and are currently under supervision there until Sunday.  Depends on the outcome of the first 3 volunteers, the doctors will decide on the number of volunteers allow to follow.

It'll be a necessarily slow process since the interval between doses is 28 days, the study for each subject will take 56 days, and the follow up will last 6 months from the first injection.

Probably never. Vietnam didn't order Pfizer nor Moderna vaccines.
But the Vietnamese vaccine could be available in 2022: https://e.vnexpress.net/news/news/vietn … 08386.html

Thank you for the quick replies.
Guess this will have to be done overseas.
Was hoping to get vaccinated and be willing to pay for the full price, because travelling will be less risky.

samkuansiong wrote:

Was hoping to get vaccinated and be willing to pay for the full price, because travelling will be less risky.

Price is very low so it's not the issue, but time is (read my edited post).

I thought Vietnam was purchasing Sputnik-V from Russia.

I'm probably repeating a rumor.

Even if you take part in a research trial, there is a 50% chance that you receive the placebo and are not vaccinated at all.

The logistical obstacles of the Pfizer and even the Moderna vaccines are probably a poor fit for Vietnam once you get outside the three big cities.  Hopefully though, some method of certification of vaccination from other countries will be allowed for entry with tourist visas and VEC's.

OceanBeach92107 wrote:

I thought Vietnam was purchasing Sputnik-V from Russia.

I'm probably repeating a rumor.

vnexpress.net/news/news/vietnam-to-buy-russian-covid-19-vaccine

Ciambella wrote:

Not for a while.  The registration for the first group was closed after more than 200 volunteers signed up for 60 spots.  Out of those 60, only 3 were given their first shots yesterday at the Military Medical Research Institute and are currently under supervision there until Sunday.  Depends on the outcome of the first 3 volunteers, the doctors will decide on the number of volunteers allow to follow.

It'll be a necessarily slow process since the interval between doses is 28 days, the study for each subject will take 56 days, and the follow up will last 6 months from the first injection.

You are referring to the Made-In-Vietnam vaccine?

vnexpress.net/news/news/vietnam-begins-human-trials-of-covid-19-vaccine-4207684

OceanBeach92107 wrote:

You are referring to the Made-In-Vietnam vaccine?

Yes. 

My statements of "Not for a while" and "it'll be a necessarily long process" were to answer the OP who wishes to:
1/ pay for the vaccine now
2/ have it done in Saigon
so he and his family can resume their travel whenever.

Since the next group of volunteers will not be formed before Feb 2021, and the chance for him and his family to:
1/ get on that list
2/ receive the vaccine
3/ have it done in Saigon
is slim, his wish will not be fulfilled for quite a long while yet.

I didn't mention Pfizer and Moderna because neither is a feasible option.

I am guessing your family is young, so even in a western country it may be June. However many are hesitant about taking vaccines thus supply may easily pass demand..

THIGV, I was born in India. I've lived in India for 20 years -- about 17 of them as a child and dependent on my parents, China for 5 years, Vietnam for 2 years, and the good ol' USA for 41 years. The "expat experience" tool is clumsy and so, yes, doesn't actually reflect the chronology of my life.

I've been vaccinated so many times I've lost count -- literally. One interesting thing is that people who've had the MMR (measles-mumps-rubella) vaccine seem to have a higher level of resistance to the worst symptoms of Covid-19, so says a new study which looked at random selections of people who have had and did not have MMR vaccine before getting Covid.

And, I haven't noticed any loss of freedom as a result of receiving all those vaccines -- yet.

Reid Blickenstaff wrote:

One interesting thing is that people who've had the MMR (measles-mumps-rubella) vaccine seem to have a higher level of resistance to the worst symptoms of Covid-19, so says a new study which looked at random selections of people who have had and did not have MMR vaccine before getting Covid.

I had never heard this before but it is certainly interesting.  I wonder if the study adjusted for age as I would think that most people who have not had the MMR vaccine would be older than those who had.  I know I have not had MMR.  I just had the diseases and back then getting them while young was encouraged as the effects were a lot less.  If it had been available, I certainly would have preferred a shot over the Mumps which are just miserable.  On another thought, I have wondered if those who have been inoculated for chicken pox can still get shingles.

It was a few days ago that I read about this, but there was a paragraph or two in the article about exactly what you raise: the age of people who have received the MMR vaccine. It was a factor in the outcome of the study. I'm pretty sure I had the MMR because by the time I was about 14 I had not had the mumps which is even worse for those who have already entered puberty and post-puberty the risks of bodily, reproductive harm are increased. I had measles when I was either 8 or 9. But my doctor dad and nurse mom were on that stuff ****.

Here's the link to the study.

MMR vaccine and Covid-19 risks

And more studies on the MMR vaccine/covid risk reductions:

multiple studies on MMR vaccine + Covid immunity and lowered risk benefits

Update on the Vietnamese Nanocovax vaccine:
https://e.vnexpress.net/photo/news/how- … 05025.html

Hi everyone,

Please note that a few posts have been removed from this thread.

Thank you,

Priscilla
Expat.com Team 

THIGV wrote:

I had never heard this before but it is certainly interesting.

A quick response before the laptop is put away for our trip: The MMR theory was mentioned in VN last May by a good number of doctors.  Since a great majority if not all living Vietnamese had it as mandatory childhood vaccination (and most of us still have the scar to show for it too), we listened to the explanation then shrugged, "We all had it, guess we have one more weapon than other people in this fight."

THIGV wrote:

I wonder if the study adjusted for age as I would think that most people who have not had the MMR vaccine would be older than those who had.

It's the opposite.  People of my siblings' generation (born in 1931 and after, under the French) and my generation all had it.  My nieces and nephews (born in the '60s and '70s) all had it.  Everyone must have it before attending primary school.  I don't know about the younger generation (born just before the war ended, and the even younger ones who were born under the new regime) though.

The MMR vaccine was not even introduced until 1971.  The individual components were invented as follows:  measles in 1963, mumps in 1967 and rubella in 1971.  Perhaps the decision was made to give older people in Vietnam the vaccine regardless of prior history because Vietnamese medical record-keeping is somewhere between poor and nonexistent.  I am certain the people in the US who were out of school before 1971 did not get the vaccine unless they went to a doctor and specifically requested it.

THIGV wrote:

The MMR vaccine was not even introduced until 1971.  The individual components were invented as follows:  measles in 1963, mumps in 1967 and rubella in 1971.  Perhaps the decision was made to give older people in Vietnam the vaccine regardless of prior history because Vietnamese medical record-keeping is somewhere between poor and nonexistent.  I am certain the people in the US who were out of school before 1971 did not get the vaccine unless they went to a doctor and specifically requested it.

Interesting facts, thank you for that THIGV. I guess I could have googled it but a bit too lazy to do so

THIGV wrote:

The MMR vaccine was not even introduced until 1971.  The individual components were invented as follows:  measles in 1963, mumps in 1967 and rubella in 1971.  Perhaps the decision was made to give older people in Vietnam the vaccine regardless of prior history because Vietnamese medical record-keeping is somewhere between poor and nonexistent.  I am certain the people in the US who were out of school before 1971 did not get the vaccine unless they went to a doctor and specifically requested it.

Or maybe in Basic Training?

(Asking for a friend...)

THIGV wrote:

The MMR vaccine was not even introduced until 1971.  The individual components were invented as follows:  measles in 1963, mumps in 1967 and rubella in 1971.  Perhaps the decision was made to give older people in Vietnam the vaccine regardless of prior history because Vietnamese medical record-keeping is somewhere between poor and nonexistent.  I am certain the people in the US who were out of school before 1971 did not get the vaccine unless they went to a doctor and specifically requested it.

The individual components were given to me before I entered school in 1957.  I don't know what kind of formula my older siblings had but they also had them because we all had the marks on our forearm or upper thigh.  When I say "we", I mean the three generations, one before mine, mine, and one after mine.  The marks can be as large as the size of a quarter and cannot be mistaken as anything else.  Mine are two identical and large round scars so it must be two different shots.  In May, TV showed those marks on the news so we could identify them.  After the news, people of all ages showed theirs in hundreds of FB posts.

I know my parents didn't ask and pay for the vaccination, not when there were 8 mouths to feed in the family.

It's a fascinating discussion but I'm out of here.  See y'all after the first week of 2021.

OceanBeach92107 wrote:

Or maybe in Basic Training?

(Asking for a friend...)

I also went through basic training before 1971 so I didn't get the MMR there although I might have had the measles and mumps vaccines individually.  They didn't give you an option, did they.

SimCityAT wrote:

Interesting facts, thank you for that THIGV. I guess I could have googled it but a bit too lazy to do so

Sure I looked up the dates but without looking them up, I knew perfectly well that I had not had those vaccines before I had the diseases.  I just was confused by Ciambella's assertion that relatives older than she had the MMR vaccine, so I looked it up.  I hope that's OK with you? 

Ciambella wrote:

The marks can be as large as the size of a quarter and cannot be mistaken as anything else.  Mine are two identical and large round scars so it must be two different shots.

An MMR vaccination does not create a scar.  What you are describing sounds like a smallpox vaccination.  Generationaly, older people, such as our parents, had smallpox vaccination scars that seemed to be often larger and deeper than those given later.   Maybe there were improvements in technique or maybe even a reduced dosage later.  I don't think smallpox vaccinations are given anywhere now as it is thought to be fully eradicated in the wild and to exist only in government laboratories.  My children never received smallpox vaccinations in the late 70's but the vaccines may have been continued in Vietnam for a bit longer than in the US.

Heard the vaccination program in HCMC is stepping up. Anyone have any idea if we are now able to buy which vaccine?

I haven't heard anything of buying it privately. I had mine yesterday through my school. Only way of getting it through your company. They have to register for it. The general registration via the health department is for viet only. They haven't updated it to English yet.

charliefarang wrote:

The general registration via the health department is for viet only. They haven't updated it to English yet.

Thats not true, I have registered hard copy when the health department representatives came to my apartment complex & asked for all people including foreigners over 65 to come register at the complex office.

What I said is true. How would you know if the health app accepts English speaking?

samkuansiong wrote:

Heard the vaccination program in HCMC is stepping up. Anyone have any idea if we are now able to buy which vaccine?

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Vietnam expects to vaccinate 70% of all adults 18 and over by next month. Here's the link:

https://en.thesaigontimes.vn/tinbaichitiet/83456/https://moh.gov.vn/hoat-dong-cua-dia-ph … i-viet-nam

drutter wrote:

Vietnam expects to vaccinate 70% of all adults 18 and over by next month. Here's the link:

https://en.thesaigontimes.vn/tinbaichitiet/83456/https://moh.gov.vn/hoat-dong-cua-dia-ph … i-viet-nam

Dont you mean 70% of Saigon, not Viet Nam.

If you are french and registered early you might have gotten a spot on the list for the first batch sent over.

Other vaccines are on the way from foreign donors but these will be given out in accordance with Vietnamese priority, elderly at risk etc .

Anyone offering you a vaccine for cash outside of official channels is operating illegally. The government does not permit middle men or intermediary distribution channels to have an import licence.

Best to register and wait..

Oh, yes! My mistake. Sorry folks.

The officials of Ba Ria Vung Tau have put out a statement saying they have enough vaccine to vaccinate 70% of eligible people in the provence during August.

BRVT vaccine

It's scary, they vaccinate with AstraZeneca even the young people.
In the UK, this vaccine is forbidden to people under 40, in France it's only for people over 50.
Of course in this forum there are only crumbling old retired people, but think about your children.

.   Of course in this forum there are only crumbling old retired people, but think about your children. 

Just wondering how you came up with this bizarre statement.

Poll,,,  over 50 or under 50 he could be on track with the old part of the comment.
FORBES posted survey in the states saying 29% of medical professionals are not getting vaccine until its been around 2 years fearing the process was rushed and there could be long term side effects not known until later,,, maybe because they know the history of vaccines and that some were horrendous.
Plus new york times 55% firefighters wont get vaccine.
The think about your children is also a fair comment.
NO ONE KNOWS the long term effects of any of the vaccines yet so its a fair comment.

Andybris2020 wrote:

Poll,,,  over 50 or under 50 he could be on track with the old part of the comment.
FORBES posted survey in the states saying 29% of medical professionals are not getting vaccine until its been around 2 years fearing the process was rushed and there could be long term side effects not known until later,,, maybe because they know the history of vaccines and that some were horrendous.
Plus new york times 55% firefighters wont get vaccine.
The think about your children is also a fair comment.
NO ONE KNOWS the long term effects of any of the vaccines yet so its a fair comment.

He did note retirement age, therefore, I would presume their kids would be 35 years of age and up. Not really kids. The crumbling bit fascinated me. Im 60, still exercise each day, ride a bicycle everywhere, still quite strong. Not really crumbling as he has put it. I can also vouch for Ciambella and Goodoldboy when it comes to not crumbling.