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moonunit0103

I posted about my 91 year old mother's pneumonia and CV19, but FRED decided it needed to be CENSORED, due to his claim the treatment protocol is unproven.

An alliance of Frontline doctors in US treating CV19 have had very good success, and NIH recently has gone to neutral on its use in treating CV19 patients.

eduardo001

If you post anything against fake virus hysteria you will get censored. That's how it works.

Fred

False information and quack cures are removed for review. The one you mentioned is the Jehovah's Witness drug of choice, probably because they fear vaccines are derived from blood products.
They, or at least some of their number, are pushing it as a cure but NEVER mention why.
I assume that omission is down their realisation everyone with a brain would tell them to get stuffed.
The first time I noticed this on the forum I looked up the research, and it's basically saying there is some possible improvement in a tiny number of people with very mild covid symtoms, but there is nothing to confirm that.
Of course, The major medical publications may be printing fake news, but they aren't known for it.

Edit - I've just spent a little time reading up a little more from the pushers of this drug - They appear to be refusing to do proper clinical testing, saying their belief in the drug means they can't not prescribe it.

Jesse777

Britain start taking vaccine first in the world in December.

suddenly Britain got new strain of virus

strange

When you put evolutionary pressure organism they tend to evolve. With drugs this is call resistance like you see with MRSA because ovr use or underuse of antibiotic. There is arugumnt about whether it is over or under but everybody agree that using antibiotic can cause evolutionary pressure and resistant strain if bacteria - not talking about virus yet.

This is not seen with vaccines. This resistance and evolutionary pressure. But maybe ths time different.

go look that up in medical journal if you have clue what the hell was just said to you and what it means about pharmaceutical company propaganda being spread around so people don't use anything that work but instead have only avenue to go through one way street to golden parachute for vaccine billionaire

Enzyte Bob

Fred wrote:

False information and quack cures are removed for review. The one you mentioned is the Jehovah's Witness drug of choice, probably because they fear vaccines are derived from blood products.
They, or at least some of their number, are pushing it as a cure but NEVER mention why.
I assume that omission is down their realisation everyone with a brain would tell them to get stuffed.
The first time I noticed this on the forum I looked up the research, and it's basically saying there is some possible improvement in a tiny number of people with very mild covid symtoms, but there is nothing to confirm that.
Of course, The major medical publications may be printing fake news, but they aren't known for it.

Edit - I've just spent a little time reading up a little more from the pushers of this drug - They appear to be refusing to do proper clinical testing, saying their belief in the drug means they can't not prescribe it.


Excuse me Fred

I would think it would be more appropriate to the reader of Moonunit0103 censored post to make up their own mind on the ability to access what is true or false.

For you to make up their minds makes me think only mindless people belong on this forum.

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mugtech

Enzyte Bob wrote:
Fred wrote:

False information and quack cures are removed for review. The one you mentioned is the Jehovah's Witness drug of choice, probably because they fear vaccines are derived from blood products.
They, or at least some of their number, are pushing it as a cure but NEVER mention why.
I assume that omission is down their realisation everyone with a brain would tell them to get stuffed.
The first time I noticed this on the forum I looked up the research, and it's basically saying there is some possible improvement in a tiny number of people with very mild covid symtoms, but there is nothing to confirm that.
Of course, The major medical publications may be printing fake news, but they aren't known for it.

Edit - I've just spent a little time reading up a little more from the pushers of this drug - They appear to be refusing to do proper clinical testing, saying their belief in the drug means they can't not prescribe it.


Excuse me Fred

I would think it would be more appropriate to the reader of Moonunit0103 censored post to make up their own mind on the ability to access what is true or false.

For you to make up their minds makes me think only mindless people belong on this forum.


Most of it has very little to do with expats in the Philippines.

Fred

Enzyte Bob wrote:

Excuse me Fred


I didn't hear you fart, but you're excused anyway

Enzyte Bob wrote:

I would think it would be more appropriate to the reader of Moonunit0103 censored post to make up their own mind on the ability to access what is true or false.
For you to make up their minds makes me think only mindless people belong on this forum.


Sad as it is, and I'm not saying this about members here (The forum can be read by anyone), there are a lot of mindless/desperate/ignorant/foolish/hopelessly stupid people around.
You only have to look at bleach drinking to realise that much - One fool says it, and bigger fools follow.

These quack cures share a few points:

Nobody has any solid evidence as far as clinical trials go
Doctors using these 'cures' refuse to run clinical trials
The minimal evidence there is is limited and questionable at best
The doctors pushing such things are all at odds with mainstream medical opinion
The same names pop up as the main pushers of these 'cures' - I'm not naming names but the same few come up every time - then add extremist religious groups using it as a reason not to accept blood products and politicians with agendas.
The cures are pushed by some political groups as a political point rather than a medical one.

If you take a look at the OP's previous Prophylaxis, you'll see the same names behind that - the same out of line, controversial doctors and politicians pushed it.

"Covid 19 Prevention and Prophylaxis", shouts the thread, but was total rubbish, and rubbish that set up a belief people could mix freely without fear of catching the disease.
How many did that crap story kill? People went out, thought they were safe, but thousands died.
Not much of an idea really, but the same people that vomited out that miracle that are pushing this miracle.

Don't know about you, but I like people too much to want them to die - Shut up talking crap would be nice, but not die.

Enzyte Bob

Fred wrote:
Enzyte Bob wrote:

Excuse me Fred


I didn't hear you fart, but you're excused anyway

Enzyte Bob wrote:

I would think it would be more appropriate to the reader of Moonunit0103 censored post to make up their own mind on the ability to access what is true or false.
For you to make up their minds makes me think only mindless people belong on this forum.


FRED: Sad as it is, and I'm not saying this about members here (The forum can be read by anyone), there are a lot of mindless/desperate/ignorant/foolish/hopelessly stupid people around. You only have to look at bleach drinking to realise that much - One fool says it, and bigger fools follow.

ME: If your not saying this about members of this forum, then who are you saying it to?

These quack cures share a few points:

Nobody has any solid evidence as far as clinical trials go
Doctors using these 'cures' refuse to run clinical trials
The minimal evidence there is is limited and questionable at best
The doctors pushing such things are all at odds with mainstream medical opinion
The same names pop up as the main pushers of these 'cures' - I'm not naming names but the same few come up every time - then add extremist religious groups using it as a reason not to accept blood products and politicians with agendas.
The cures are pushed by some political groups as a political point rather than a medical one.

If you take a look at the OP's previous Prophylaxis, you'll see the same names behind that - the same out of line, controversial doctors and politicians pushed it.

"Covid 19 Prevention and Prophylaxis", shouts the thread, but was total rubbish, and rubbish that set up a belief people could mix freely without fear of catching the disease.
How many did that crap story kill? People went out, thought they were safe, but thousands died.
Not much of an idea really, but the same people that vomited out that miracle that are pushing this miracle.


snip: Don't know about you, but I like people too much to want them to die - Shut up talking crap would be nice, but not die.


Do you believe anyone is going to die and your going to save lives brought upon by the OP?

Fred . . . .What I'm pointing out. . . .Is we don't need a monitor to make up our minds for us, that's what your censorship has done on the OP, by making up your mind. Just because you made up your mind, why should it prevent us from making up our own mind?

Now that's your opinion even with your research, but still you are not allowing readers of this forum to form their own opinion. It's nice you want to protect all the members of this forum, but I don't think this is a forum propagated with low IQ morons that need protecting.

Jesse777

Enzyte Bob wrote:
Fred wrote:

False information and quack cures are removed for review. The one you mentioned is the Jehovah's Witness drug of choice, probably because they fear vaccines are derived from blood products.
They, or at least some of their number, are pushing it as a cure but NEVER mention why.
I assume that omission is down their realisation everyone with a brain would tell them to get stuffed.
The first time I noticed this on the forum I looked up the research, and it's basically saying there is some possible improvement in a tiny number of people with very mild covid symtoms, but there is nothing to confirm that.
Of course, The major medical publications may be printing fake news, but they aren't known for it.

Edit - I've just spent a little time reading up a little more from the pushers of this drug - They appear to be refusing to do proper clinical testing, saying their belief in the drug means they can't not prescribe it.


Excuse me Fred

I would think it would be more appropriate to the reader of Moonunit0103 censored post to make up their own mind on the ability to access what is true or false.

For you to make up their minds makes me think only mindless people belong on this forum.


whoever says major medical pubs not known for printing fake news

lancet editor says he's a G.D. liar

https://www.thelancet.com/pdfs/journals … 0696-1.pdf

Jesse777

Fred wrote:

These quack cures

.


you must be talking about the vaccines

Jesse777

strange how all these forum things pushng people into vaccine and controlling dialog so people cannot talk about alternative

quack this quack that

get in line proles

Fred

Enzyte Bob wrote:

Do you believe anyone is going to die and your going to save lives brought upon by the OP?

Fred . . . .What I'm pointing out. . . .Is we don't need a monitor to make up our minds for us, that's what your censorship has done on the OP, by making up your mind. Just because you made up your mind, why should it prevent us from making up our own mind?

Now that's your opinion even with your research, but still you are not allowing readers of this forum to form their own opinion. It's nice you want to protect all the members of this forum, but I don't think this is a forum propagated with low IQ morons that need protecting.


Please link to reputable medical sources, not political publications, Jehovah's witness stuff, or unproven ideas that the vast majority of science rejects as such.
Let me give you a clue - The stuff was written for a political party in the US, as the OP's previous, now debunked, miracle cure was.
The problem is people do believe rubbish, not always because they're stupid, but many because they're scared or desperate. Then they think they're fine, so go out and spread the virus, get ill, or even die.

There are loads of tin foil hat forums around to post crap on. However, be careful because your internet might be 5G, and you know that spreads the virus.  :gloria

Fred

Jesse777 wrote:

strange how all these forum things pushng people into vaccine


I'll bet you can't so a post or notice where that's done.
I know I'm right because you made it up.

Enzyte Bob

Fred wrote:
Enzyte Bob wrote:

Do you believe anyone is going to die and your going to save lives brought upon by the OP?

Fred . . . .What I'm pointing out. . . .Is we don't need a monitor to make up our minds for us, that's what your censorship has done on the OP, by making up your mind. Just because you made up your mind, why should it prevent us from making up our own mind?

Now that's your opinion even with your research, but still you are not allowing readers of this forum to form their own opinion. It's nice you want to protect all the members of this forum, but I don't think this is a forum propagated with low IQ morons that need protecting.


Please link to reputable medical sources, not political publications, Jehovah's witness stuff, or unproven ideas that the vast majority of science rejects as such.
Let me give you a clue - The stuff was written for a political party in the US, as the OP's previous, now debunked, miracle cure was.
The problem is people do believe rubbish, not always because they're stupid, but many because they're scared or desperate. Then they think they're fine, so go out and spread the virus, get ill, or even die.

There are loads of tin foil hat forums around to post crap on. However, be careful because your internet might be 5G, and you know that spreads the virus.  :gloria


Fred your reply is not a rebuttal . . . . Matter of fact your reply to my post is all about nothing. My premise is that you are not allowing Moonunit0103 posting  because you found  scientific evidence that suits you. So you decided nobody can read it or have an opinion that disagrees with yours.     :gloria

If we all had the privileged of blocking a post, like you do, the most current post on this forum might be years old.           :gloria

Have you ever considered a job with Facebook or Snopes to be a fact checker? Of course they are completely unbiased? Right?  What the world need now is more micro fact checkers?      :gloria

Fred

This last couple of days has seen me remove a load of rubbish including scams about getting fools to buy fake certificates, a bunch of property scams, and two fake covid cures.
Where does your freedom of speech stop, and do you want all the other crap removed or do you want the forum swamped with utter rubbish?
It's an expat forum, not a posting scam adverts and snake oil forum.

If you really want the post back, simply prove it's a real cure, not a political thing pushed by a couple of doctors with a political agenda, paid by a political party to produce total crap.

Other than that, there are plenty of conspiracy forums that love posts about cures, and the members don;t need to wrap them up in fake stories to get them on the sites.

I can link to a couple with lots of duff drug recommendations if you like. As with the mummy cure in that thread, and the disproven tripe in his last cure thread, they're all rubbish.

Not a single bit of proof anywhere in any medical journal except the output of one small group working for a political party.
I'm sure that lot also have forums you can post their made up stories on.
However, you'll notice none are willing to validate their work with properly conducted trials.

Now, I have a toenail to cut and my nose to pick , things I find more interesting that arguing about tin foil hat snake oil cures for covid.

Next up - I'll be accused of supporting the other party - Anything to deflect from the reality the drug is exactly what the last OP's previous amazing covid drug thread from some months ago was - Total crap.

No point getting rid of that as history has shown us what a load of old rubbish these cures are. Would you like me to link to it?
You can all go out and buy the stuff he talks about, then not get cured.

I wonder, if some moron posted a thread about drinking bleach as a cure for covid, would you want it on the forum, and would you give it to your family?

Ah, freedom of speech

Enzyte Bob

Fred wrote:

This last couple of days has seen me remove a load of rubbish including scams about getting fools to buy fake certificates, a bunch of property scams, and two fake covid cures.
Where does your freedom of speech stop, and do you want all the other crap removed or do you want the forum swamped with utter rubbish?
It's an expat forum, not a posting scam adverts and snake oil forum.

If you really want the post back, simply prove it's a real cure, not a political thing pushed by a couple of doctors with a political agenda, paid by a political party to produce total crap.

Other than that, there are plenty of conspiracy forums that love posts about cures, and the members don;t need to wrap them up in fake stories to get them on the sites.

I can link to a couple with lots of duff drug recommendations if you like. As with the mummy cure in that thread, and the disproven tripe in his last cure thread, they're all rubbish.

Not a single bit of proof anywhere in any medical journal except the output of one small group working for a political party.
I'm sure that lot also have forums you can post their made up stories on.
However, you'll notice none are willing to validate their work with properly conducted trials.

Now, I have a toenail to cut and my nose to pick , things I find more interesting that arguing about tin foil hat snake oil cures for covid.

Next up - I'll be accused of supporting the other party - Anything to deflect from the reality the drug is exactly what the last OP's previous amazing covid drug thread from some months ago was - Total crap.

No point getting rid of that as history has shown us what a load of old rubbish these cures are. Would you like me to link to it?
You can all go out and buy the stuff he talks about, then not get cured.

I wonder, if some moron posted a thread about drinking bleach as a cure for covid, would you want it on the forum, and would you give it to your family?

Ah, freedom of speech


Your post very nice indeed.

You censored a respected member of this forum that for over two years with almost 300 posts to his credit. He has an opinion and you have yours. I am interested in what Moonunit0103 had to say and I'm well informed enough to accept or reject what he has to say and so is so many on this forum.

It's great that you removed rubbish, scams or snake oil, how many of these post were the first post of those posters or how many were from a new member of two days?

Now to add a little humor, a quote from you: "Now, You have a toenail to cut and your nose to pick"

You can pick your nose, you can pick to censor Moonunit0103, but you can't pick Moonunit0103 nose.

GuestPoster170

This period is interesting as there is confrontation between belief and science. Few days ago I had the visit of a couple from Jehovah's Witness. I did not want to talk with them but they had time to give me a paper on their church and ... the miracle cure against Covid... the same as the OP published  ;)  interesting indeed

Enzyte Bob

geolefrench wrote:

This period is interesting as there is confrontation between belief and science. Few days ago I had the visit of a couple from Jehovah's Witness. I did not want to talk with them but they had time to give me a paper on their church and ... the miracle cure against Covid... the same as the OP published  ;)  interesting indeed


Yes it would be nice to know, even if people would reject Moonunit0103 message what it was.

Certain religions protholize, especially Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons. You can't discount anyone's faith because it's not yours. For some people, faith works miracles.

When living in Las Vegas whenever you saw two young men riding bicycles dressed in black pants and white shirts in 110 F heat, they were Mormons out recruiting  new members. Actually Las Vegas was founded by Mormons and the Mormon Bankers lent the money to finance the first casinos.

Now for Jehovah's Witness, when they would rang my doorbell, I would give them 25 cents and take their Watch Tower magazine and close the door.

Fred

geolefrench wrote:

This period is interesting as there is confrontation between belief and science. Few days ago I had the visit of a couple from Jehovah's Witness. I did not want to talk with them but they had time to give me a paper on their church and ... the miracle cure against Covid... the same as the OP published  ;)  interesting indeed


One of them posted on another section of the forum - He didn't have the balls to admit why he was posting rubbish, but he was exceptionally easy to find on the JW forums.
Witnesses, for those that don't know, refuse to accept anything from blood, and vaccines might well be manufactured from blood products, or at least are derived from such. If they want to refuse vaccines or push cures within their own group - up to them - but don't try to convert the rest of the world.
As for the rest, it all comes from a small group of doctors under the pay of a US political party, just as the OP's last miracle, but now debunked, cure did. When this lot started, nobody had much of a clue about a lot, but it's like walking past a friendly looking dog that turns on you - you cross the road next time you walk down that street.
I fully understand why the JWs want to believe it, and can even understand why some politicians want it to be true, but I can't really understand normal people wanting to believe it.
I suppose some are stupid, some are scared, and some are desperate.

However, a new lie from the same set of liars is unlikely to be true, so I'll skip believing it unless they can produce the science that backs them up - but they can't.

Right, I'm off for a wee dram of The Famous Grouse, watered down with bleach. One thing for sure, I won't catch covid if I drink enough of that - It's a miricle.

Jackson4

I don't care what everyone thinks but Vick's vapor rub cures everything. 😂

Fred

Enzyte Bob wrote:

Yes it would be nice to know, even if people would reject Moonunit0103 message what it was.


https://www.thelancet.com/journals/ecli … S2589-5370(20)30464-8/fulltext

The miracle cure, isn't.
Honest threads telling the truth are no problem, but open lies about how wonderful something is are unwelcome. Wrapping them up in stories, then moaning the thread was really about him mum, is dishonest at best.

The drug may or may not be helpful to some people, but the stuff about it being an amazing breakthrough is utter crap ....... unless someone can show otherwise in well conducted clinical trials - It's worth noting the people pushing it refuse to conduct trials.
Take a look at who came up with this idea, and who came up with the stuff in the OP's last thread about a great breakthrough, then look at who they made their discoveries for.
Same names, same politicians, and very probably the same colour cash stuffed into their back pockets.

Fred

Jackson4 wrote:

I don't care what everyone thinks but Vick's vapor rub cures everything. 😂


Rubbish - Chinese tiger balm is way better. That cures covid as well as clearing your frontal sinuses.  :D

Enzyte Bob

Fred wrote:

As for the rest, it all comes from a small group of doctors under the pay of a US political party,


Speaking of Doctors, the esteemed (really?) Dr. Fauci is the highest paid person in the US Government, I heard $418 thousand dollars, $18 thousand more than president Biden.

If he's smart a little flip flopping will guarantee his job.

Jesse777

Fred wrote:
Jesse777 wrote:

strange how all these forum things pushng people into vaccine


I'll bet you can't so a post or notice where that's done.
I know I'm right because you made it up.


ok

but first you post link to "reputable medical sources,"

I will not bet you cant cuz you know you cant.

they all whor# for money not truth  :lol:

Jesse777

Enzyte Bob wrote:
Fred wrote:

As for the rest, it all comes from a small group of doctors under the pay of a US political party,


Speaking of Doctors, the esteemed (really?) Dr. Fauci is the highest paid person in the US Government, I heard $418 thousand dollars, $18 thousand more than president Biden.

If he's smart a little flip flopping will guarantee his job.


haha

I just saw him on tv

he says wear two masks now an Im sure that will be world policy soon

next he will tell us to shove hepa filter up butt  :lol:

why anyone listen to these guys?

Fred

I gave up on a given set of political announcements about covid a long time ago. I've been following the utter pigs ear the UK government is making of their version of the mess, and I can assure you my 12 year old daughter can see it's a total **** up (This forum doesn't allow naughty words, so inset your own in place of the stars).
They have lockdowns and big fines, but the airports let pretty much everyone in without so much as a temperature check. A rather interesting BBC piece from a reporter returning from forign assignment summed up the mess.
He said he was told to fill in a form on the aircraft, but nobody bothered to so much as look at it when he landed. No tests, checks, no questions - nothing.
Add asylum seekers/illegal immigrants crossing by boat, and you have a guaranteed steaming pile of dung.
In other words, the UK government is rubbish as far as covid goes, and the opposition are just using the situation to score cheap political points.
I know the US is very much divided on the subject, so I'll skip commenting too much on that.

mugtech

Enzyte Bob wrote:
geolefrench wrote:

This period is interesting as there is confrontation between belief and science. Few days ago I had the visit of a couple from Jehovah's Witness. I did not want to talk with them but they had time to give me a paper on their church and ... the miracle cure against Covid... the same as the OP published  ;)  interesting indeed


Yes it would be nice to know, even if people would reject Moonunit0103 message what it was.

Certain religions protholize, especially Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons. You can't discount anyone's faith because it's not yours. For some people, faith works miracles.

Jehovah's Witness, when they would rang my doorbell, I would give them 25 cents and take their Watch Tower magazine and close the door.


Someone thinking Watch Tower magazine  is worth a quarter?  That is a miracle.

bigpearl

Just my general knowledge, once the world was flat, witches were burnt at the stake and water couldn't flow uphill. Polio, diphtheria, tetanus  and a world that is a globe? Proven and fixed by science and accepted by most,,,,,, not all though. Faith nor quackery ever invented the atomic bomb or put man on the moon though according to many that was a hoax? Conspiracy theories and religious faith/s have their place and for the enquiring mind offer different perspectives, for the sheep? Little and follow.

Fred, readers. I read Moonunits deleted post (before it was wiped) and took no umbrage  and simply saw an alternative that wasn't for me and took no offence but simply felt for his plight, I think I would agree with what Bob is driving at with relation to an open free thinking forum, no one was attacked aside from the OP's deletion. While Bob and I agree to disagree on many things there is never an open confrontation, nor from me to you Fred,,,,, some people yes. Hang my I'm guilty.
As you have suggested Fred there are plenty of sites out there for those that want to inject bleach, snort Drano or not wear a mask or overturn an election, that is not here nor should it be.
Free thinkers reply or don't to anothers opinion/post, if they don't that's their choice or they are not interested, those that do? The ones that have an opinion or an alternative? Or seek advice, alternative offerings? My years of being involved/tied up in many forums, whether building, cars, global warming and not only expat forums dictate that free speech is for all with an opinion and attacks on an individuals beliefs or opinions aren't acceptable and that is in most open forum rules, yes we all appreciate scientific or general rule (It's good to drink water) but in this case?

There were compassionate reasons tied up with the deleted post and Moonunits beliefs/offerings? Deleted? Now debated?
Perhaps another deleted opinion?

Thanks for your time readers and as always OMO.

Cheers, Steve.

Fred

mugtech wrote:

Someone thinking Watch Tower magazine  is worth a quarter?  That is a miracle.


It isn't my cup of tea, but it's up to them if they like it - as long as they don't want me to read/believe it. I won't be getting my wallet out for that one.
I don't have any objection to anyone being a Witness, or a Catholic, a Buddhist, or anything else; whatever floats their boat is fine, as long as they don't try to ram their truth at me.
Saying that, if Joyce McKinney did her thing with me, I'm unsure I'd struggle very much. Morons - yummy!

Fred

bigpearl wrote:

There were compassionate reasons tied up with the deleted post and Moonunits beliefs/offerings? Deleted? Now debated?
Perhaps another deleted opinion?


Opinions are fine  - but not when they push lies.
Pushing this drug as some sort of cure is a lie. It may help some people in limited circumstances, and the level of use is in debate, but it was pushed as some sort of cure - it is not.

As for overturning elections and all that stuff, it's internal US politics - I hold opinions, but I try not to let them out here because party politics always leads to a mess - and that stuff breaks the forum's rules. (I've removed pro and anti Trump posts, and been accused of supporting the other side pretty much every time)
However, this drug was held up by a small group that were very closely associated with a given political party, and served up for political reasons, not medical ones. A religious group added food to the plate because it suited their opinions and beliefs, not because it works.

Odd job this - Apart from not being paid, I get accused of homophobia when I remove gay dating posts, but little or nothing when I remove heterosexual dating posts. I'm an ultra right trump supporter when I dump an anti Trump post, and a raving leftie when I remove a pro-Trump post.
I support whatever company a moaning post is about, even though I've never heard of the company, and support whatever government other political posts are about, even though I think they're a bunch of twits. I'm pro and anti-EU, and all together a raving schizophrenic. :D

Fil-Am Mom

Enzyte Bob wrote:

Certain religions protholize, especially Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons.


Is "protholize" a real word? Maybe you meant "proselytize" which means to convert or attempt to convert someone from one religion, belief or opinion to another (as per google's dictionary).

Enzyte Bob

Fil-Am Mom wrote:

Maybe you meant "proselytize" which means to convert or attempt to convert someone from one religion, belief or opinion to another (as per google's dictionary).


Yes, you are exactly right, thank you for setting me straight.

Fil-Am Mom

Here's what I have to say about this thread.

First, to moonunit, I'm sorry to hear that your mom and brother tested positive for covid-19. I hope that they recover soon.

Second, Fred is an expat Expert in this expat.com website. He isn't paid monetarily. He can report or bring up a post he might think is inappropriate to the paid moderators and owners of this site. AND ANY MEMBER CAN ALSO REPORT A POST. But in the end, it's up to the moderators and owners to decide what to do with the post or thread / topic.

Third, if any member thinks that a post had been unreasonably removed / deleted / flagged / censored,  then he / she should just state his / her case to the moderators by contacting them and state why the thread should be returned to the forum or why a post should be reposted in its original wording. Give your best argument. In the end, it's not Fred who makes the decision to remove a post. It's the powers that be who will decide if the post is in line or counter to the company's objectives, mission and vision.

I'm not taking sides here. Just giving advice.

bigpearl

Offering an opinion is a safer way to put it, Did you FAM manage to read the deleted post in question and if so would love to hear your thoughts on the why the post got the short shift.
What you say is correct, Fred like most moderators are caught between a rock and a hard place. While Moonunits deleted post was not offensive to me? I am not a moderator and would never relish the responsibilities they all take on.
I like others gave our 2 bobs worth but at the end of the day? Only my personal observation but it's probably time to close/lock this thread as we can argue all day long on this post or perhaps the OP's founding submission.

OMO.

Cheers, Steve.

Fil-Am Mom

bigpearl wrote:

Offering an opinion is a safer way to put it, Did you FAM manage to read the deleted post in question and if so would love to hear your thoughts on the why the post got the short shift.


I didn't read the post thoroughly enough, prior to its deletion, to form an opinion on it. All I remember about the post was that moonunit's mom and brother both tested positive for coronavirus. His mom was asymptomatic, but his brother showed mild symptoms. The OP mentioned something about a drug that is now being added to traditional methods of treating Covid-19. I do know that certain drugs are now being used in the US for Covid-19 intervention. Some say they're effective. Some say otherwise. Some say they're safe. Some say they're not.

I don't remember the name of the drug that OP mentioned.  But does it really matter here in the Philippines? I have no idea as to whether any of those drugs are available here. Even if these drugs will be proven effective, I think it would be first world countries which will have first dibs on them. Third world countries will have to settle for scraps.

moonunit0103

This is a consortium of published Front Line Doctors who have testified in Senate hearings about their successes in caring for their patients, one is a professor at Eastern Virginia Medical School, Norfolk, VA. 

I never said anything about Jehovah Witnesses, either.  I am a retired dentist and pharmacist, and I thought the fact that my 91 year old mother is CV positive, but asymptomatic, is pretty remarkable. Do your health care credentials trump mine, so you feel entitles to censor me?

I prefer to think for myself, not have other decide what I can and cannot read.

mugtech

Fred wrote:
Enzyte Bob wrote:

Excuse me Fred


I didn't hear you fart, but you're excused anyway.


Ah yes, the reason farts smell is for the benefit of the people who did not hear them.

manwonder

Most poor nations ‘will take until 2024 to achieve mass Covid-19 immunisation’ Forecast predicts handful of developed countries fully vaccinated by late 2021 while others race to catch up...
so yes I too want to hear what moonunit had to say & I too can think for myself.

https://amp.theguardian.com/society/202 … ssion=true

Priscilla

Hi everyone,

We are now closing this thread.
We are completely off topic.

Thanks,

Priscilla
Expat.com Team

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