Covid Vaccine Followup

FilAmericanMom wrote:

bigpearl wrote:

Off topic a little but we registered with the local private hospital a few months ago, then the local municipal a month ago. The private hospital that we registered with asked our preference for vaccine type (probably because we will pay for it) advised them Astra, Moderna or J&J........

I was under the impression that sale and / or purchase of Covid vaccines by private individuals and companies here in the Philippines is illegal. Only the government can purchase vaccines. Private companies  may purchase the vaccine directly from the manufacturer provided they get permission from / enter an agreement with the government (probably because Covid vaccines only have emergency-use approval), that they will not sell it, and that the vaccine will only be used for their employees.

I may be wrong. I would suggest you look it up. Purchasing the vaccine from the hospital might get you in trouble.

You are probably Right FAM but??????? This is the Philippines and if there is an angle?????
Example: I find it strange that one has to pay for a Covid test and depending on where you get a test and how much the tester thinks that they can make, from what I have heard from PHP 1 to 4K...... very consistent? While most countries have free testing the scammers here take the opportunity, while I'm not sure of the governments take on the disparity perhaps it's time to step up and regulate these fees properly or as a government service offer them for free, cut all the needless budgets in other departments until this pandemic is reigned in.

I think my point is that we were asked the preferred vaccine type then told we were getting something else with a limited window to respond 3 months later.
Pay or not we were offered a choice. I went to the Mercedes dealer and ordered my AMG 63, 3 months later they called and told me my tricycle was ready for pick up.

OMO.

Cheers, Steve.

Meycauayan Doctor's Hospital billing/cashier, Rochelle, just admitted to me it is hospital policy to not release the patient (brother-in-law) if unable to pay the balance. Brother-in-law does not have much resources. I told her it is against the Philippine law to hold anyone if unable to pay. She repeated it is hospital policy. They will not release the patient. They rejected a promissory note by my brother-in-law. When I pushed harder, she said they needed a collateral. Meanwhile, they are adding daily charges while they are not releasing the patient.
There is even a witness to this conversation.
Is there a way to file a complaint against the hospital? It may be futile effort but someone has to stand-up for this and hope local population will learn they have the right to question and push back.

Futile effort. They are not going to change their minds. This is why the Philippines is 50 years behind the rest of the World, and you can't change the culture.

Jackson4 wrote:

Meycauayan Doctor's Hospital billing/cashier, Rochelle, just admitted to me it is hospital policy to not release the patient (brother-in-law) if unable to pay the balance. Brother-in-law does not have much resources. I told her it is against the Philippine law to hold anyone if unable to pay. She repeated it is hospital policy. They will not release the patient. They rejected a promissory note by my brother-in-law. When I pushed harder, she said they needed a collateral. Meanwhile, they are adding daily charges while they are not releasing the patient.
There is even a witness to this conversation.
Is there a way to file a complaint against the hospital? It may be futile effort but someone has to stand-up for this and hope local population will learn they have the right to question and push back.

When my wife was hospitalized we had to pay 85,000 php upfront to schedule her surgery.

Do you think the hospital would keep your brother-in-law indefinitely?

Enzyte Bob wrote:

When my wife was hospitalized we had to pay 85,000 php upfront to schedule her surgery.

Do you think the hospital would keep your brother-in-law indefinitely?

85,000 is a lot to carry around.

I do not think the hospital would keep my brother-in-law. My wife will not let him stay there a minute more than necessary. She knows she's going to pay for it.
Remitly is really quick. Hospital only takes cash. I was a bit concerned about someone carrying so much cash from Lhuillier to the hospital. He is leaving the hospital today.
Upfront for mother-in-law is about usd800.
Unfortunately, mother-in-law has to stay longer.
Covid is more difficult on older persons.

I may be wrong about this but it seems to me that if it is not against Philippines laws and it is just the hospital policy then how can the police arrest the patient if he/she just gets up and leaves? Guards at the hospital are not police officers and even if they were they can not stop the patient from leaving the hospital. As far as I  know, guards do not have the authority to use the powers of arrest, Has anyone else had any experience with this? If it is not against the law then the patient should be able to leave and pay the hospital when able to do so. The hospital simply has to require the patient to repay the bill. Then the courts can work it out.

Precisely

"Omo"

capricornrising wrote:

Philippine law/"guards do not have the authority to use the powers of arrest",

Armed guards/staff here with their total lack of proper training/knowledge of the law of the land are in my mind v.dangerous to deal with especially the trigger happy kind.
All it takes is some screaming by abused/worried staff for the settlement of unpaid bills to take place inside these guarded premises & all hell can break loose.
Result : Agitated foreigner/local shot dead by security guard / Judge claims it was a judicial misadventure.
Nobody (staff/guard) learns anything & best part is they may even think it was justified.
Remedy : Saw the bill / Smile / Say ok / Take a cellphone photo of bill / Smile again & commend the staff that she is  beautiful then say you need to make an overseas phone call & pretend that you have bad reception/or say you are going to the toilet & get the hell out/run away from potential danger.
You live to fight another day.
"omo"

I recall saying In July I was going to wait after my child birth due NOV before me and the missus both gets vaccinated.

Around end of JUL I think was the last time we visited our OB, we asked about the vaccination and his reply is what's the hurry? Can do it after giving birth. I just happen to visit my pulmonologist around the same period so I shot the same question at him, his reply opposite, This was before D variant became widespread in PH.

JUL seem like a year ago when looking at Covid news.

After reading some articles and please - don't believe everything you read on the internet, even your local news media outlet. ffs Especially if it's posted by some guy on FB (facepalm) or at least do research and try to see the story from all angles before coming to a conclusion.

I was told pregnant women getting vaccinated help pass on antibodies to the newborn giving him/her some form of protection. research, CDC's website was one source.

true. What about the side effects? or what else can be passed on to the fetus? will it cause complications? We are too early in this stage to tell, regardless of how much research was done.

a friend in Dubai told us not to worry, that they are vaccinating pregnant women.

Visiting the vaccination site, lady told us that missus is the 6th pregnant woman that day going to get vaccinated.

Even right before heading inside to get the jab, I told my wife. This is the point of no return, it's up to you. I support her no matter what she choose and no matter the outcome.

NO I am NOT telling you that you should go get vaccinated if you are pregnant, THIS CHOICE IS YOURS and you alone have to decide based on your knowledge and research of this, also talk to your obgyn most importantly.

It was a very hard decision for us but seeing the numbers go up in PH and elsewhere, we bit the bullet and decided we go get vaccinated. This was less than a week ago.

We both got Moderna.

Side effects was  arm/muscle sore for 3 days, I was really tired the first day. Missus seem to be OK aside from arm/muscle sore. We are due for 2nd shot end of Sept.

Pregnancy reasons which is why we held out this long. People who get vaccinated - "all vaccines that have achieved WHO emergency use listing are highly effective in preventing severe disease and hospitalization due to COVID-19" - (source - WHO). The vaccine does not make you immune, it just gives you a better chance. No matter what your somebody's Grandma told you. (Yes we hear that a lot too. My in laws head is harder than a rock). Also someone said the case numbers and vaccine is all some GOV madeup bla bla bla - (My helper said that) ... /facepalm - Point is, check all the hospitals and you will see they are full and NO, they aren't handing out free milk and cookies so they can lynch your wallet. /END

Stay Safe Everyone, Hang in there. Things will get better.

Update:
Everyone’s back to their old self and healthy.
I think the pulmonologist got wind who’s paying the bills. She was billed us peso equivalent to about $3000. Yes, USD.