Looking for apartment lease in SP

Not sure just where you are looking, you might be more specific as to if the state of SP or the city, and if the city, what area.  However, either way, you might be better off using an Airbnb as most landlords in Brazil use an annual or biennial lease, we do, with pretty stiff penalties for early departure. In any case, good luck to you with your relocation!

rraypo wrote:

Not sure just where you are looking, you might be more specific as to if the state of SP or the city, and if the city, what area.  However, either way, you might be better off using an Airbnb as most landlords in Brazil use an annual or biennial lease, we do, with pretty stiff penalties for early departure. In any case, good luck to you with your relocation!

I'm looking for apartment in the city (capital), in Barra Funda or surrounding bairros.

I will try Airbnb.

Californian.in.SP wrote:

rraypo wrote:

Not sure just where you are looking, you might be more specific as to if the state of SP or the city, and if the city, what area.  However, either way, you might be better off using an Airbnb as most landlords in Brazil use an annual or biennial lease, we do, with pretty stiff penalties for early departure. In any case, good luck to you with your relocation!

I'm looking for apartment in the city (capital), in Barra Funda or surrounding bairros.

I will try Airbnb.

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I stay about 2 blocks from the São Camilo Hospital, in Pompeia, right up the hill from Barra Funda station. I walk to the mall almost every day when I am there. I think that is one of the nicest shopping centers in SP. Also quite close to the PF office for immigration.  We have another person on here too in that area.

Hey there,

have you tried services like https://housi.com or https://www.quintoandar.com.br ?

Housi are serviced flat all around São Paulo, basically like airbnb. A friend of mine stayed with them next to Avenida Paulista.

For myself, I use airbnb, found a nice studio next to Copan for 300 us$/month.

Good luck

I hope you mentioned USD 700 to USD 800, because with R$ 700 to R$ 800 you can't score didly squat on your search, unless you can opt to live dangerously.

Seriously.

At USD 800, your are liable to get something to rent by something closer to downtown on a decent 2BR with 800 sf.  I am using a R$ 4,000, all inclusive rate. 

Forget Jardins, forget Itaim Bibi, forget around Avenida Paulista, forget Moema, though luck with Pinheiros.   

On that money you are good for.....

Santa Cecilia ( poor man's Higienopolis )
Vila Buarque ( same . this one and the former are artsy fartsy neighborhoods )
Bela Vista ( the lower part closer to downtown )
Bom Retiro ( Garment district, actually you can get huuuge apartments out there for so little. They haven't sold the Synagogue, which is a good omen )
Campos Eliseos ( the good part, btw, a lot of orthodox ones live out there, not bad at all  ).
Upper Cambuci ( poor man's Aclimacao, actually great curbside appeal )
Possibly Mooca , defnetively Agua Rasa and Quarta Parado ( you will learn how not to speak correct Portuguese mismatching all nouns , but you will be ok ). Great place for pastries, bread, and italian Food.
Maybe the nicer part of Tatuape ( Vila Gomes Cardim )
Liberdade ( Once a Japanese holdover, it is turning out to become Chinatown )
Possibly, a clean but bare amenities in Perdizes. 
Agua Branca, Vila Romana, Barra Funda.

And I own a decent place in Santo Andre.  Single family home. btw. Front lawn, backyard. Upscale neighborhood.

sprealestatebroker wrote:

I hope you mentioned USD 700 to USD 800, because with R$ 700 to R$ 800 you can't score didly squat on your search, unless you can opt to live dangerously.

Seriously.

At USD 800, your are liable to get something to rent by something closer to downtown on a decent 2BR with 800 sf.  I am using a R$ 4,000, all inclusive rate. 

Forget Jardins, forget Itaim Bibi, forget around Avenida Paulista, forget Moema, though luck with Pinheiros.   

On that money you are good for.....

Santa Cecilia ( poor man's Higienopolis )
Vila Buarque ( same . this one and the former are artsy fartsy neighborhoods )
Bela Vista ( the lower part closer to downtown )
Bom Retiro ( Garment district, actually you can get huuuge apartments out there for so little. They haven't sold the Synagogue, which is a good omen )
Campos Eliseos ( the good part, btw, a lot of orthodox ones live out there, not bad at all  ).
Upper Cambuci ( poor man's Aclimacao, actually great curbside appeal )
Possibly Mooca , defnetively Agua Rasa and Quarta Parado ( you will learn how not to speak correct Portuguese mismatching all nouns , but you will be ok ). Great place for pastries, bread, and italian Food.
Maybe the nicer part of Tatuape ( Vila Gomes Cardim )
Liberdade ( Once a Japanese holdover, it is turning out to become Chinatown )
Possibly, a clean but bare amenities in Perdizes. 
Agua Branca, Vila Romana, Barra Funda.

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Granted, it's a small 1br apartment, but we own a rental on Frei Caneca, two blocks off of Ave Paulista, and it only rents for R$1,300/month

That and the condo assoc due plus property tax.   

Assuming you are talking at least 350 sf.

And btw...

Studios are renting cheap, lots of tenants turned in keys when COVID came busting...

At the Copan alone, last year,   ( https://photos.app.goo.gl/Sfu25Hi6a1wpJkpq5 )
at least 25 units had returned keys and lease cancelations. 

And between you, me , and the rest on this forum...

Someone at the  City Tax Clerk's Office fell asleep, because I was able do download over a million property entries, with deed names, before they wised up..

What I found, is that most of those freshly minted studios they were  "selling hands over fist" were actually piles of unsold inventory.  Call it future cash flow projections.

We are not talking a 10% residual inventory the developer keeps for retirement, we are looking rather at  50-85% unsold units, which they want an arm and a leg for it, and have the straight face to tell us their inventory is dry. 

That is a reason I do not waste my time with the new stuff anymore.  I go for the cheap good stuff.

If you are going to use Quinto Andar, I recommend you plug their name on reclameaqui dot com dot br and see what comes out.

And Housi is owned by Frankel, the same dude who owns Vitacon, a Real Estate  Development Firm selling pint sized studios. 

I've seen my fair shar of them.  Tiny, overpriced matchboxes with lots of fancy ammenities.

Barra Funda, just avoid the lower Barra Funda, known as Varzea da Barra and Parque Thomas Edison.
Lots of folks call those Barra Funda, which is completely innacurate.

You want to be at least South of Rua Norma Pieruccini  Gianotti, ideally south of the rail tracks, the Real Barra Funda, Or else, you are at peril of rain floods.     If you are on the line, you are already on the flood zone. 

You want to be on.....

Rua Vitorino Carmilo
Rua Barra Funda
Rua Brigadeiro Galvao
Rua Lopes Chaves
Rua Conselheiro Brotero
Rua Lopes de Oliveira.
Rua Margarida
Largo Pericles

and while at it, consider Campos Eliseos above Avenida Rio Branco towards the  Avenida General Olimpio da Silveira, and from the rail tracks at the end of Alameda Barao de Limeira up to Alameda Nothmann. 

That includes...
Alameda Eduardo Prado
Rua Conselheiro Nebias ( away from Santa Ifigenia )
Rua Guaianaes  ( away from Santa Ifigenia )
Alameda Ribeiro da Silva.

Stay as far as you can from
Alameda Dino Bueno
Alameda Cleveland
Rua Helvetia. at least for now. 

and on the subject....

Consider Bom Retiro, upper side.
Rua Prates up to rua dos Bandeirantes
Rua dos Bandeirantes
Rua Guarani
Rua Tres Rios
Rua Lubavitch
Rua Amazonas
Rua Ribeiro de Lima
Rua Afonso Pena
Rua da Graca

You will be pleasantly suprised.  You might feel like a total insider, yourself.

salesrealestate,
Wow, you woke up with a lot of good info,,,,,,,,

Thanks for the information

That's  nine years of pounding the pavement , sore legs, and burning the midnight oil
while  pouring over tax database spreadsheets.

@rraypo

You should be getting more from that.  Depending upon footage there is.   Anyone out there is renting R$ 2000+ expenses

- @sprealestatebroker

And not to be undone, I am parsing my data on Ipiranga and surroundings ( about 45,000 properties, give it or take )

Off the beaten path, some gems, ensconced by Aclimacao and Cambuci. 

We are talking....

Vila Monumento

Jardim da Gloria

Upper Cambuci ( Lower is forgetable )

The Whole Aclimacao

Ipiranga, the closer to the Independence Museum and Monument, the better it becomes.

Vila Dom Pedro I... meeeh.  Close to the Green Line, ok, but not great. I would say from Rua Silva Bueno up towards East of The Museum Park, and North to Rua Leais dos Paulistanos, and South bound by Rua Labatut.

Not Expat grounds, but solid places to live. You can actually score a decent rowhouse or townhouse. 

The typical Ipiranga rowhouses are facing the street, do not attract attention, are cute, and are hard to break in by burglars.   

And they are cheap to rent.   

The closer to the Orfanage and their Aquarium, the better it becomes.