Getting F+ card instead of F card

Hello,

In November 2022, you'll have full rights to ask for a permanent resident card.
But in reality, the commune will not give it to you before the renewal of your current resident permit, unless you magically lost that card~ (don't do that in November/December 2022, it's too obvious....)


As a F card holder, you must also understand that after 3 years of legal stay in Belgium AFTER you've received that card, the immigration can't throw you away from Belgium anymore, even if you break up, unless you do a serious crime (murder, national security, ...)
In your specific case, you don't really care as you'll already reach the 5 years of legal stay.

It's just a matter of administration and a name on a resident permit, with no added value as you've already full access to the work permit as a family member of an EU.


Now let's be honest, there's no reason for you to want the F+ card, right here & now in the next coming minutes, unless you want to break up or think your couple will not last long.
And if you really really really want, then magically lose your resident permit next year!

Thank you very much for your response Alex. Just adding little bit in it, considering all this situation, may i demand nationality in december 2022?

5 years of stay is the bare minimum to technically request the start of the process.

Then it depends if you have been working for 5 years straight, did the immigration lesson to socialize to Belgian life, had French/Dutch/German A2 level, ...
There are many conditions and your Belgian partner will be able to translate it to you

https://www.adde.be/ressources/fiches-p … ite-18-ans
Use google translate / else, then ask question if it's not clear and check the other thread on this forum talking about that

Thank you very much Alex for your responses. They were indeed helpful

You will get F card in April 2022. If your intention is to become a citizen do not bother with F+. 

The F card will be enough provided at the moment of declaration you have 5+ years resident, integration class, language A2 or more. Your tax returns for previous years and payslips of correct year.

side note: with annexe 19ter you do not need to renew your work permit anymore. You can work without work permit.

Thank you Edigj for your response. I went through the article which Alex shared and i fulfill all conditions except something may be. Some things are tricky although, i could not work during some of the months when commune gave me annexe 15 during renewal process of card A in previous 5 years. Otherwise, the condition of working for 468 working days in previous 5 years, i fulfill that completely and already. The only thing that needs attention is, can i submit nationality declaration when i fulfill 5 years of legal residence (5 A cards(as a student)) and holding F card(since 8 months) at time of submission in Nov/Dec 2022? 

Yes i fulfill 5 years of legal and uninterrupted residence but some people say student period counts as half, i am not sure if that applies to my case or not, being holder of F card at time of application of nationality.

@aamirsabir

Yes, provided you have +468 working days in the last 5 years.  

Thank you for your response

5 years of stay is the bare minimum to technically request the start of the process.

Then it depends if you have been working for 5 years straight, did the immigration lesson to socialize to Belgian life, had French/Dutch/German A2 level, ...
There are many conditions and your Belgian partner will be able to translate it to you

https://www.adde.be/ressources/fiches-p … ite-18-ans
Use google translate / else, then ask question if it's not clear and check the other thread on this forum talking about that

- @AlexFromBelgium

@AlexFromBelgium what if he apply without language certificate or anything else he provided as a proof that he understands language

@AlexFromBelgium  yes i already done that I completed my A1 and A2

@Julia Gospodinova read all the above conversation. The will answer most of your questions..

Hi everyone,

I have been in Belgium since 2017 I started with 19 than 4 months of orange card .and finally got my f card on October 2018.

1 when can I apply for F+ card.

2 I had problem with the police in the Netherlands does that count or will it affect my application?

Thanks

@Meed neu once your fcard is about to expire you will apply the new card will be F+ card if you not meet the criteria for f+ they with again give you Fcard. Regarding the issue with ducth police not sure.

@Meed neu

I had the same situation, I went to city hall to ask, the lady checked and told me I could apply for F+, so she asked if she could start the file and I gave a go ahead.

As the process was ongoing my F card was about to expire, so I got a new F card and 2 months later my F+ was approved, so I had to go back and pay for my F+ plus.

Then a few months into my F+ I was eligible for nationality, went ahead and applied and got it.

About police situation in Nederland nothing to worry about, I had the same and nothing came up about it.

Best go to city hall and ask when are you eligible to apply.

Good luck.

Thank you to everyone for the response.

I was really worried about the police issue in the Netherlands.

I am glad to know that it won't effect my situation.

How long before the experation of my F card can I go to apply?

Some city halls will send you a letter. My city hall sent me a letter to go renew my card. It was 2 months before my f card expired. I don’t know about other city halls.

@Kdeepak kdeepak u know ur process for the citizenship please explain ....... same here i am a doctor basically but not in belgium i am trying to gave some exams in uk for to get the job....here  i have f card which will be expire in march 2023 and i hope i will get the equivalency diploma from begium very soon so no need of language certificate and work... i have two belgian kids and begain husband . here i want to know whats the procedure from the beginning  u did for F than F+ and citizen ship and which documents please

@Kdeepak  thanks for the info , is there an oficial website that i can check . i have been maried now for 3 years and would like to exit.

Hello

Please I have a question recently I renew my F card in within  5 days of my application I received a letter to go over to the commune to pick up my card after the application to renew my F card  I was given F+ card permanent residence for 10 years duration but I was expecting the nationality because I meet up all the requirements needed for citizenship, do I need to make an application for the nationality directly because I am due for it and have all the requirements needed

Please I need your advise

Thanks

@ridewitgab Hello. Yes definitely. You need to apply for nationality. They will not grant it automatically.

@ABS25 Thank you so much for the information

@ABS25 That means I can apply for the nationality not minding my F+ that was issued to me recently..

@ridewitgab No problems at all. You could apply even same day when you received F+

@ABS25 Thanks

Hello, Does anybody knows if there is an expiration dates to the language certification? I did my A2 4 years back, not sure if  I need to do it again. Problem is  getting appointment is very hard in my commune, takes 3 months to get the appointment 😞 and I don’t want to waste the time longer.

@pailajaxan there is no expiry date. I used my same certificate that I did 5 years ago to apply for F+ card. If you want you call the gemeente to ask about this.