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Guest6598745

Good day,


My employer illegally terminated me last October 2021, because I was sick my  symptoms is like a Covid-19 but actually it's Not. I was diagnose for acute upper respiratory infection unspecified as stated on my Medical record,  and My employer wants me to Go back to my home country and they give me a Final Exit Visa.  My Embassy told me to file a case for illegally terminated, and luckily during our hearing ended in the Ministry of Justice and I won my case for illegally terminated. 

My employer cancelled the final èxit visa but right after they cancel it they make me huroob. 

During our hearing the Ministry of Justice Judge told me, either I will Go back to my home country or I will stay in Riyadh to work. Then I choose to stay in riyadh to continue working,  and not to Go back to my home country because I also considered that it's pandemic and I don't want the company will pay me.

The judge told me to transfer New sponsorship.  I also mentioned the judge that I cannot transfer to New sponsor because of ABSENT FROM WORK STATUS did my employer. 


The Ministry of Justice judge told me to Go back to my Embassy and tell them to process the cancellation of my huroob.
When I went to my embassy they give me a documents pertaining the cancellation of huroob paper as well as the result of my case.  My embassy told me that the process to cancel my huroob takes 30 calendar days.

Last January 16, 2022 I went at the Ministry of Labor Office to submit my document for cancellation of my ABSENT FROM WORK STATUS (huroob).

Until now my absent from work status is Not yet cancelled.

I went to the Ministry of Labor Office to follow-up and asked them why my ABSENT FROM WORK STATUS is Not yet cancelled.  They answered me:  bring your New sponsor here so we will cancel your ABSENT FROM WORK STATUS your New sponsor will process your transfer in our office.


Now I have a hard time to find or look a New sponsor because NO company will Go to the Ministry of Labor Office to process my transfer, they are Not willing to visit at the Ministry of Labor Office because it's time consuming.  They want the transfer tru qiwa platform.


I don't have Job since October 2021 until now April 2022 it's more than 6 months. 


My question is;

1. How can I find a sponsor now  since the transfer is tru qiwa platform.  All the companies wants to process of the application online.

2. it's not automatically to be cancelled my Absent from work status,  since I already submitted my documents in the Ministry of Labor Office to cancel my huroob.

3. Does the Ministry of Labor Office have a system to cancel my absent from work status automatically

Thank you I hope you can consider my opinion.

Have a nice day!
Arsal7
Sad story.
What is your field?
.
1: Find any company/establishment, make a deal with them by giving them some money and they will process your transfer.
After that, you can find another job but this will be very costly because you will have to pay the iqama fee also.
.
2: Try all online websites/forums and get a job.
This one is the only option if you want to stay here.
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3: Ask the ministry to give you a final exit.
Go home.
Get a new visa and come back.
Or go to any other country.
.
There is no other way around.
The ministry has rules and they have to follow them.
Without a sponsor nothing can be done.
Guest6598745
@Arsal7 hello I  had a Degree of Human Resource  Development Management. 

I cannot deal with my previous employer for some money to make me transfer.

As I have mentioned to my statement I won my case that I filed to my previous employer for illegally terminated.

My concern is since, the transfer now is through  qiwa for a worker to transfer new establishment.

I submitted my documents in the Ministry of Labor Office for cancellation of my absent from work status,  the documents was taken at POLO until now it's Not yet canceled.

When I went to the Ministry of Labor to follow-up and I asked them, why is my ABSENT FROM WORK STATUS is Not yet canceled since I submitted the cancellation of huroob paper last January 2022. They answered me " bring your New sponsor here so we can cancel your huroob status".

I applied many jobs and most of the companies that I applied for a job told me "we want a worker to transfer by qiwa".

So how can I find a sponsor now since, most of the companies want to transfer a worker through qiwa.  Nobody wants to come in the Ministry of Labor Office to make kafil for me.  They told me it's time consuming and they don't want to compromise their works to do.

My papers was done submitting in the Ministry of Labor Office, I am ready to transfer now.  And I have a hard time to find a sponsor now because I cannot access my qiwa. 

What I need now is a sponsor who is willing to give their time to come in the Ministry of Labor Office to make kafil for me so, my ABSENT FROM WORK STATUS will be canceled that's all.

Thank you for your response and hearing me.

Have a nice day and keep safe always!
Arsal7
@Arsal7 hello I  had a Degree of Human Resource  Development Management. 

I cannot deal with my previous employer for some money to make me transfer.

As I have mentioned to my statement I won my case that I filed to my previous employer for illegally terminated.

My concern is since, the transfer now is through  qiwa for a worker to transfer new establishment.

I submitted my documents in the Ministry of Labor Office for cancellation of my absent from work status,  the documents was taken at POLO until now it's Not yet canceled.

When I went to the Ministry of Labor to follow-up and I asked them, why is my ABSENT FROM WORK STATUS is Not yet canceled since I submitted the cancellation of huroob paper last January 2022. They answered me " bring your New sponsor here so we can cancel your huroob status".

I applied many jobs and most of the companies that I applied for a job told me "we want a worker to transfer by qiwa".

So how can I find a sponsor now since, most of the companies want to transfer a worker through qiwa.  Nobody wants to come in the Ministry of Labor Office to make kafil for me.  They told me it's time consuming and they don't want to compromise their works to do.

My papers was done submitting in the Ministry of Labor Office, I am ready to transfer now.  And I have a hard time to find a sponsor now because I cannot access my qiwa. 

What I need now is a sponsor who is willing to give their time to come in the Ministry of Labor Office to make kafil for me so, my ABSENT FROM WORK STATUS will be canceled that's all.

Thank you for your response and hearing me.

Have a nice day and keep safe always!
- @janopolvos91
There  are two options now.
1: Find a sponsor who is willing to do everything but with your money.
Yes, you have to pay all the expenses.
First, you will transfer to him and then you can find a job and get another transfer.
Keep in mind, that huroob cancellation and iqama renewal will cost around 10 to 15k SAR.
Can you pay that?
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2: Forget about transfer, get the final exit from ministry.  Ask them if it is possible?
If they can do it, just get it and go home.
Get a new visa and come back.
This will cost you far less than the first option.
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Remember dude, nothing is free in this world.
There is no company doing charity/social work that they would give their time and money for anyone's sake.
If you find any sponsor to do this without money, then, i guess you were very lucky.
Guest6598745
@Arsal7 sir as I had mentioned I won my case to my previous employer that I filed illegally terminated. And my huroob status will be canceled because my Embassy submitted a documents to the Ministry of Labor to Cancel my huroob status.

Their is no SUCH cost 10-15k SAR payment to cancel my huroob in the Ministry of Labor.

As I have said I cannot transfer because my huroob should be canceled first, before I can transfer to a new establishment and I cannot access qiwa.

Some companies now wants a transfer of a worker is through qiwa because it is very fast and convenient. Compare if they will Come in the Ministry of Labor it takes more time.  Companies wants transfer through qiwa.


So how my huroob  status will be remove or canceled, if no one wants to come in the Ministry of Labor Office to make kafil for me and my Huroob status will be canceled.

What I need now is a New sponsor who can do kafil for me, and come at the ministry of Labor Office. So my huroob status will be canceled  and I can transfer now to new kafil.

Sir I just want to reiterate you that their is no such cost 10-15K SAR to cancel my huroob status in the Ministry of Labor Office to pay.  since, I won my case that I filed and the Ministry of Justice judge told me to come back again to my embassy and tell them to submit a documents in the Ministry of Labor to cancel my huroob.
Arsal7
I tried to help.
Now let me tell you some info, for huroob cancellation iqam must be valid.
So, you need to update your iqama.
Anyway, even it is free if according to your saying then it is still upto a sponsor.
Do whatever you like to do.
This is a kingdom and it has some complex systems.
Arsal7
There is nothing free.
No one is free to do anything. You have to find a kafeel, pay him a little and he will do this, i hope your saying is true and this cancellation is free.
sam_dwame
@Arsal7
Sir! I have found a new sponsor but told me to just negotiate with my old sponsor to remove my huroob and they will just pay according to whatever the cost however my old sponsor dont want to accept any money and told me to just wait he already process with his lawyer in labor to remove my huroob. I just want to ask if it will take long time to process? Or he is jus giving me false promises because i am confused since according to labor also that old sponsor only need to come to labor to remove huroob and it will be done automatically. Pls enlighten me.thank you
Arsal7
@Arsal7
Sir! I have found a new sponsor but told me to just negotiate with my old sponsor to remove my huroob and they will just pay according to whatever the cost however my old sponsor dont want to accept any money and told me to just wait he already process with his lawyer in labor to remove my huroob. I just want to ask if it will take long time to process? Or he is jus giving me false promises because i am confused since according to labor also that old sponsor only need to come to labor to remove huroob and it will be done automatically. Pls enlighten me.thank you
- @sam_dwame

When did he put that huroob?
sam_dwame
@Arsal7
Last month , when i went to labor 2 weeks ago they said already 30days.
Arsal7
@Arsal7
Last month , when i went to labor 2 weeks ago they said already 30days.
- @sam_dwame

That's a bad news.
Your sponsor can't cancel it now.
After 15 days, huroob removal is impossible without going to the court.
You have to go to the court but i can't say if you are going to be successful.
And remember, if you put a case against your sponsor, it can take months to solve.
And during that period, you can't do job and no transfer, just nothing.
So keep that in mind.
If you can bear all that, go to the court, otherwise, go home and move to some other country on a new visa.
sam_dwame
I understand now that he is lying all the time i go to him to update about my status and maybe he really dont have plan to remove it after all.
Arsal7
I understand now that he is lying all the time i go to him to update about my status and maybe he really dont have plan to remove it after all.
- @sam_dwame

Yes, he is playing with you.
Don't say anything bad to him okay.
If you want to go to court, just be calm.
But my advice to you is: go home and move to some other country.
sam_dwame
@Arsal7
But in the end still only the kafeel and labor court can remove the huroob right no matter how long?
Arsal7
@Arsal7
But in the end still only the kafeel and labor court can remove the huroob right no matter how long?
- @sam_dwame

Yes, but if your kafeel is willing to do so.
Or he has given you the huroob without solid reason and you win the case in court.
But as i told you, there is no guarantee.
I have seen guys suffering during these cases.
If you can bear all the burden and joblessness during the hearings, go ahaed.
Otherwise, go home buddy.
Relocate to some other country.
ARUN KN 123

Sir,

In my case,company terminated me in last year 2022 November, they gave me 60 days to change the new sponsorship,in this time the new company send the request to my old company but they refused to accept, the reason they said as a competitor,so find another company and take time. Then am searching the new job and got it on may 2023 at this time the new company tried to send the request. They said you are in huroob, please check with the old company. Then I came back to old company and ask to them they said it's automatically came. Also I didn't get any messages from anywhere like qiwa. Also my old company not informed to me they made the huroob. Just give the advise what is the solution to remove the huroob. I have my family with me. Kids are studying, I can't exit from here. Please need advise

saikrishna3636

hi sir how you went ministry of justice  please give details for because my iqama also in huroob status iam suffering from 1years  still i not found any solution please make any help for me sir

fkhan6849

@Guest6598745

hello brother, could you please tell me how to cancel my huroob after 7 months and what I need to do?



thank you

Lhexy23

same case with us ARUN KN 123

Lhexy23

@ARUN KN 123 Same case 😢

jk444009

@Arsal7 hello sir, my case was closed and won during the 1st and 2nd session, as I check to najiz its stated the Ending Labor relationship since I am the defendant vs my employer because he started filing case towards me for compensation. But then in the middle of sessions the judge was on my side maybe because they find a strong reason of me leaving my sponsor. After the case closed my status remains Absent from work. Now the question sir @arsal7 what/how/and who. What is the procedure of lefting huroob in my status? How  to transfer the sponsorship if my qiwa doesn't work due to my absence of work.?  Who should I talk to remove my huroob since I found a new khafel.

Ansal Meeran

@jk444009 this is also similar to my case I also won the case against my old sponsor who made me Huroob and the judge gave verdict which favour me in order to take transfer to another employer so this is on the third online section and this all happened and the judge asked me about the court ,where i want to make this case files and also to make transfer to new employer so I ask for Alkhobar Labour court. On the next day we take appointment in Alkhobar Labour court and i went with my new sponsor in n the Alkhobar court where we wish to settle these all headaches so we had appointment and we met the person's working over there but my bad unfortunately the Huroob transfer cases will no longer handling by Alkhobar Labour court. Almighty wish to test me again so the saudi person's who were working there told us to go and check in dammam labour court and in there the dammam labour court is currently settling these Huroob and related sponsors transfer cases.

So right now I am at this point ,i have the case report which favour me and this i downloaded from the HRSD website so please if anyone have a kind heart please guide me what I should do next ... please help.

Ansal Meeran

@jk444009 please guide me also if you have any information about this.

Ansal Meeran

@ARUN KN 123 same here please help me also if you have any information about this

yameenyaseen41

Hello friends / experts



I've received a message from qiwa that I should take transfer or exit within 60days from date of the message..


and I couldn't find new job within 60days, and finally when I find & my employers requested through qiwa, it's shows the employee is absent from work cannot be transferred


can you please guide what should I do now


to remove absent from work & transfer to new sponsor.

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crispsylock

@yameenyaseen41

we have the same problem.. have you get any solution for this

crispsylock

have you corrected you absentee status on qiwa? we have same problem , may i know what procedure you work on to clear the absentee.. thank you



    Hello friends / expertsI've received a message from qiwa that I should take transfer or exit within 60days from date of the message..and I couldn't find new job within 60days, and finally when I find & my employers requested through qiwa, it's shows the employee is absent from work cannot be transferredcan you please guide what should I do nowto remove absent from work & transfer to new sponsor.        -@yameenyaseen41

Andoy Pordoy

@crispsylock

kabayan ,sir we have same problem, do you find any solution on it.

Iqbalhussein64

@crispsylock I have a same problem do you find any solution

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