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Last activity 07 November 2022 by Richard Rossiter

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OceanBeach92107
This whole 30 day E visa thing is a joke. Can someone please explain the logic behind it whilst tourist cities like Nha Trang, Da Nang etc are on their knees waiting for tourists ?
- @panda7
I can assure you that the government of Vietnam doesn't consider it to be a joke or a laughing matter.

It's been discussed a lot already in the forum, but the prime reasons seem to be flagrant disregard of employment laws and visa restrictions in the past, especially unauthorized foreign English teachers working illegally, and the presence of totally undocumented foreigners, exacerbated by the COVID crackdown which put the government on a higher state of general alert.

The common attitude that the presence of foreigners is worth a lot to Vietnam's economy is basically true, but the reasonings behind the current visa limitations are related to protection of jobs for Vietnamese citizens, insuring acceptable levels of qualifications in foreign ESL teachers and general  national security.

On a related note, my fiancée and I were informed by Quảng Ngãi Immigration that when (if) our marriage becomes official this month, they cannot process a change from an eVisa to a TT visa or TRC for me.

They say I'll need to personally go to Hanoi for that.

I asked my trustworthy visa agent in Hanoi about that and she told me that agents aren't allowed to help with such matters any longer, so I'll definitely need to go there in person.

No joke.

O.B.
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Sobie
@OceanBeach92107  "They say I'll need to personally go to Hanoi for that.""
     In HCM , my wife had to pick up  the passport with the TRC inside.
OceanBeach92107
@OceanBeach92107  "They say I'll need to personally go to Hanoi for that.""
     In HCM , my wife had to pick up  the passport with the TRC inside.
- @Sobie
Good info, thanks!

Even though Quảng Ngãi is telling us we need to go to Hanoi, we will be back in Vũng Tàu tomorrow and plan to check with immigration in HCMC to see if they can do it.

We have over two weeks to plan.

Were you on a 30-day eVisa when you made the switch to TRC?
Sobie
@OceanBeach92107  ''Were you on a 30-day eVisa when you made the switch to TRC? "
No was still on Tourist visa. I arrived with my wife and all the documents  early in the morning (0700) , it took a few  minutes  ( documents and payment) and a week later we'd back my passport with the TRC .
jayrozzetti23
This whole 30 day E visa thing is a joke. Can someone please explain the logic behind it whilst tourist cities like Nha Trang, Da Nang etc are on their knees waiting for tourists ?
- @panda7


Actually, this 30-day visa limitation policy was announced in 2019 and was supposed to be implemented at the beginning of July 2020 as far as I remember.

So, it would seem that this is the current official policy until a new one is approved. Apparently, there are discussions on providing some options as you posted a couple days ago.

However, right now people just have to do visa runs or move to another country. Cambodia, which offers long-term visa extensions, is becoming a popular choice.
GuestPoster1236
@johnross23

The so called “purge” of the illegal workers by putting a 30 day limit on tourist visas still didn’t get rid of them.
Who do you think most of the crew travelling out to Moc Bai every month is. ??   Some of them are on their 5th border run.    Can’t really be ALL tourists & I’d bet most of them haven’t changed an address in that 5 months….as a genuine tourist would. 

Sure…there are decent people here for good reasons,,family ties , awaiting change of their Visa/TRC status etc ……but there’s still a lot of dodgy characters around. 

At last count there were over 700 illegal schools in Saigon alone.    I’ve known several that worked under the table….and they’re still there.    One guy recently posted on You tube his teaching gig in Da Nang & filmed himself, the staff & the cash envelope he received.   No work permit ,,he’s on an Evisa . He also encouraged others to do the same to get easy money.     He’s still here 😳 making a mockery of the system.

Also….I could name several who haven’t had a valid visa for years.   They’re vagabonds , stay under the radar by having an unregistered address at a cheap joint ( the owner doesn’t pay tax) ….get a SIM card thru a local kid ( passport is linked to SIM) and no bank account.    They get their money sent via Western Union or via a friends account.    Provided they keep their nose clean & stay out of trouble …they simply stay.   Live easy on Bahn Mi, soup & Bia Hoi.

Travel by train & bus …..use girlfriends ID to check into cheap hotels.   Viola…..tis a good life.
They have no intention of leaving….since VN is the only place they can afford.

So , all you good people out there……we can thank these malingerers for the 30day visa deal.    Didn’t worry  them….they’re still here.

I would say Vietnam would like to have the 90 day visa come back to benefit Tourism ( it’s still only at 10% of previous levels after 7 months) …..but they know that will only play into the hands of the vagabond illegals they tried to get rid of in the first place.    Not a good look for them.

What a mess.

PS…Don’t even get me started on those fake Shell company sponsored Business Visas.🤪🤪
OceanBeach92107
@OceanBeach92107  "They say I'll need to personally go to Hanoi for that.""
     In HCM , my wife had to pick up  the passport with the TRC inside.
- @Sobie
Good info, thanks!

Even though Quảng Ngãi is telling us we need to go to Hanoi, we will be back in Vũng Tàu tomorrow and plan to check with immigration in HCMC to see if they can do it.

We have over two weeks to plan.

- @OceanBeach92107
I spoke with both HCMC and Hanoi on the phone.

We do have to go to Hanoi after we pick up the marriage certificate, family book copy and resident certification from Quảng Ngãi.

But the Hanoi official was very nice on the phone, encouraging us to apply for a TRC, saying that current approval is taking 1 week.
RealPommy
@toufas I applied for a 1-month visa on July 16th and paid.
Today Aug 15th, after numerous reminders to foreigners@immigration.gov.vn and contact@immigration.gov.vn I have gotten no response.

I find this unusual. Any ideas?
OceanBeach92107
@toufas I applied for a 1-month visa on July 16th and paid.
Today Aug 15th, after numerous reminders to foreigners@immigration.gov.vn and contact@immigration.gov.vn I have gotten no response.

I find this unusual. Any ideas?
- @RealPommy

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I applied for a 1-month visa on July 17th for entry on Sep 27.
I only get this answer.
Application status: In processing

They say it takes from 2-3 working days. No it's more than 14.


Any idea why?
- @RealPommy

Seriously, with a history of a previous violation, don't you think you are more likely to get a relevant answer from immigration than from us?
- @OceanBeach92107
Did you not see this previous reply?

You have an admitted history of overstaying.

It's not unusual at all for someone with your immigration history to be having problems with a new visa.

You will probably have to actually go to immigration to get an answer.

Hopefully the answer won't be that you are blacklisted.
toufas
Hi all. The same problem with passport copy again. this time they reply late at night after 8pm 4 days from application. iwas lucky to open the site at 11pm and see the message that photos (2 passports) was not clear. i made new photos and send before 12.00 ..
Now i need to Waite 3-4 more days.
OceanBeach92107
Hi all. The same problem with passport copy again. this time they reply late at night after 8pm 4 days from application. iwas lucky to open the site at 11pm and see the message that photos (2 passports) was not clear. i made new photos and send before 12.00 ..
Now i need to Waite 3-4 more days.
- @toufas
I don't doubt you are experiencing this problem and I do hope it will be resolved quickly for you.

However, I personally have now had three consecutive eVisa applications approved without a hitch, and I personally know two other foreigners who have had similar success with multiple applications.

We can only guess at the reason for your difficulty, but I would start by asking what are the settings you are using to scan documents?

My first guess would be that it's the resolution of your images that's lacking
AndyHCMC
Another reason could be if using phone and flash, I've had same problem submitting photos that were done with flash, it blows out the detail in photo, or if phone above and shadow darkens it too much.
Aidan in HCMC


My first guess would be that it's the resolution of your images that's lacking
- @OceanBeach92107

My thoughts precisely OB. My friend, who is now in Hanoi, has had 3 (4?) applications approved without a hitch. As I mentioned in a previous post, his PP photo is absolutely atrocious. The photo is so dark that I'm surprised he hasn't had the same troubles as Toufas.

Toufas, how are you digitizing the photo? My friend simply took a pic of his PP bio page with his phone, and cropped from that his pic.
No doubt frustrating for you to have to go through this, again.
Bhavna
Hello everyone,

Please note that some posts have been added to this thread : #50 - #53

The initial poster already had this thread on the same topic.

Regards,
Bhavna
toufas

@OceanBeach92107 i send the same photos we used last time with no problem , they were very clear with detailed resolution, no flash no reflections , the new ones i shoot them in photo portable studio as i was professional photographer for years ,they can't be better. what i think is if there is a problem with the bar code scan, a very detailed employee , or they are trying to get overstay fees .. i can't thing something else. Any other ideas welcome ..

toufas

@Aidan in HCMC Thanks a lot for the support. i explain everything on post to @OceanBeach92107. Hope i can help others not to go through the same thing.

Aidan in HCMC

I wrote in post #53 of this thread...

"My friend, who is now in Hanoi, has had 3 (4?) applications approved without a hitch. As I mentioned in a previous post, his PP photo is absolutely atrocious. The photo is so dark that I'm surprised he hasn't had the same troubles as Toufas."

Well, guess what?! His last application ~10 days ago was rejected. No reason given, no email, no request to resubmit with corrections etc.

I suggested to him that he resubmit the eVisa application, but with a new photo.

Well, he did. And the new application was approved. Go figure.

Brick23

This whole 30 day E visa thing is a joke. Can someone please explain the logic behind it whilst tourist cities like Nha Trang, Da Nang etc are on their knees waiting for tourists ?
-@panda7

Gov works for gov first and anyone else a distant second. I was in Hanoi last month, never seen so many Maseratis in one place before. Every gov building around Hoàn Kiếm had a car park bristling with $100k+ cars.

goodolboy

This whole 30 day E visa thing is a joke. Can someone please explain the logic behind it whilst tourist cities like Nha Trang, Da Nang etc are on their knees waiting for tourists ?
-@panda7
Gov works for gov first and anyone else a distant second. I was in Hanoi last month, never seen so many Maseratis in one place before. Every gov building around Hoàn Kiếm had a car park bristling with $100k+ cars.
-@Brick23


I used to live in the "oil capital of Europe" where there was some serious money & earnings going about & used to see the odd super car going around. I now live in Celadon City HCMC where its 99% Vietnamese families living here & just in the basement car park I see more super cars, Mercedes, Porsche, Ferrari, even a Mclaren (serious cash) & that's just one development & remember a 100k usd car in US or UK costs at least double if not treble because of import tax. When I ask my Vietnamese friends how some people can afford them they just laugh!

GuestPoster1236

Extra cash and under the table deals for certain people. They will tell you its all about getting rid of unqualified workers, which we all know is bullshit.
-@colinoscapee

I tend to agree.  Relative to other tourist destinations,  few foreigners want to be in Vietnam, and the few who are here aren't causing problems.  It is a strange juxtaposition with the way locals throw caution to the wind in most aspects of life.

Of course, it is their prerogative to focus resources on scrutinizing foreigners.  You would be fool to go looking for reason behind the way things are over here, so I am not gonna ask why.


Of course, there are many foreigners working illegally, but all countries in Asia have this problem and most to a larger extent than Vietnam.  I would even hazard to bet that a lot of these illegal schools are simply too small to afford to get proper documents from the govt.  The govt also doesn't make things easy, they write a lot of rules that seem to become bribery rackets on the local level, making  compliance impossible if not even a waste of time and money.   

Richard Rossiter

@toufas Happened to me.  Just take a new picture, get it into a jpeg or jpg, an HEIC won’t work.  Make sure it looks passportee and send it in from the same evisa site.  I did it from a coffee shop with an employee.

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