Filipinos say trust U.S. Aussie, Japan most, China & Russia least

Actually, 1,200 out of 110 million locals seem to have been asked by an American run group.

That group have failed to put any technical data onto their website so far

https://pulseasia.ph/databank/survey-technical-details/

Never believe surveys until you see who conducted them, and how they did so.

@Fred

That's telling!

Also, would like to know where they placed other Filipinos on the trustworthiness scale?

Things are often said in jest ...but are all too real in life

https://youtu.be/ahgjEjJkZks

Fred writes, Never believe surveys until you see who conducted them, and how they did so.
-@Fred

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Of course agreed. However these results do have considerable face-validity,

none-the-less. But, I am somewhat surprized at their less-than-expected U.K.

result findings, and also their omission of Canada from their research criteria?

Happy trails,

PalawOne

Fred writes, "Never believe surveys until you see who conducted them, and how they did so."

But, I am somewhat surprized at their less-than-expected U.K. result findings ..

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Being puzzled over the U.K. apparently being less trusted by Filipinos than for

example America or Australia, I asked dear binibini wifey.

She believes it's probably true and largely because of Diana. Being reasonably

matriarchal, your Phils gals mostly took the side of Diana, rather than, Charley.

She was someone they especially admired. Many still do. So therefore this U.K.

trustworthiness rating is mostly a girly thing? Anyway, it's what the boss thinks.

I being partial . . .The possible reason for the good rating of the US:

(1) American blood was spilled on Philippine soil during WWII.

(2) In the past with Clark AFB & Subic Bay, the next generation of Filipinos had a chance to meet Americans and also benefited with good jobs created by those bases.

(3) In time of national disasters American planeloads of help was among the first to arrive.

(4) American presence in the South China Sea.

(5) This is also valid for the Philippine & American Allies.

I think General McArthur gave it a boost for the Filipinos to trust US. He made a speech before the fall of Bataan (I think) coined the "I shall return" speech. It could have been more dramatic if he said "I'll be baaaack!". He did return and liberated the country from Japan. I also think the US helped rebuild the Philippines after WW2. The main transportation alone, the jeepneys, are from the WW2 jeeps. Who wouldn't be grateful? Maybe the communist. 😄

The benefit however, is not one sided. The US likely had something in return too. i.e. outpost in Asia, retirement location for Americans, etc.

If memory serves, US companies' investments in the Philippines comes to about 4 or 5 times that of China's.

However, US money is falling each year whilst China's is increasing.

One of the two rivals has been at war with a bunch of countries since 1947 (without a break), but the other has only two (repeated) border skirmishes under its belt.

One has militarised a bunch of islands, but the other has fleets sailing to defend the area,  but they send them from invaded and militarised islands.

One has invaded a whole bunch of countries that were no threat to it, the other has not.

One has destabilised and removed democratically elected governments in favour of its pet dictators, the other has not.

As for me, I trust neither, but I'd far sooner be invaded financially than with bombs - I'll look at history to decide which one is the most likely to start a shooting war.

I will be told I'm anti-American, but I only work on undisputed history, not opinion. I won't be taking sides as it's a pointless waste of time. However, one should be aware of as much as possible before forming a idea.

Also, I'm completely sick of the pro and anti Chinese propaganda spamming the forum.

Loads of posts removed and bunches of spammers banned over the last couple of weeks.

Both sides are guilty, but the majority has been anti-Chinese spam - I suppose that colours my thinking a little.

Just banned another three of the little dogs this morning - What a pain in the posterior

If memory serves, US companies' investments in the Philippines comes to about 4 or 5 times that of China's.
However, US money is falling each year whilst China's is increasing.
One of the two rivals has been at war with a bunch of countries since 1947 (without a break), but the other has only two (repeated) border skirmishes under its belt.
One has militarised a bunch of islands, but the other has fleets sailing to defend the area, but they send them from invaded and militarised islands.
One has invaded a whole bunch of countries that were no threat to it, the other has not.
One has destabilised and removed democratically elected governments in favour of its pet dictators, the other has not.

As for me, I trust neither, but I'd far sooner be invaded financially than with bombs - I'll look at history to decide which one is the most likely to start a shooting war.

I will be told I'm anti-American, but I only work on undisputed history, not opinion. I won't be taking sides as it's a pointless waste of time. However, one should be aware of as much as possible before forming a idea.
-@Fred

You only have to look at the motivation of the two countries you are referring to:

(1) One side: Military-Industrial-Complex-Politicians ($$$ For All)

(2) Other Side: Loaning 3rd World Countries money, foreclosure on impossible loans, seizing natural resources (collateral).

(A) One side has 12,000 students in the "B's" country.

(B) Other side has 300,000 students in the "A's country.

LOL, I have enough problems looking after my own property and affairs let alone trying to own or take over my next door neighbours interests, they don't bother me and we respect each others lives and choices.

Politics and Religion have no place on an expat site aimed at those living here (Philippines) or wanting to move here and we try to share info and ideas to help each other and while I'm also guilty of getting into sh@t fights I do try to avoid but not always successfully, still learning as we do.

There are plenty of other sites to air propaganda, conspiracy theories, political and religious beliefs but not an Expat site no matter country.

OMO.

Cheers, Steve.

You only have to look at the motivation of the two countries you are referring to:

(1) One side: Military-Industrial-Complex-Politicians ($$$ For All)
(2) Other Side: Loaning 3rd World Countries money, foreclosure on impossible loans, seizing natural resources (collateral).

(A) One side has 12,000 students in the "B's" country.
(B) Other side has 300,000 students in the "A's country.
-@Enzyte Bob

I trust neither because both are interested in themselves and don't give a flying rat's bum about anyone else.

The one that invades by debt has the advantage of causing zero people to die by bomb. That, if anything, is their superpower in the world order.

Also, as for Military-Industrial-Complex-Politicians - that combination steals natural resources as well.

As for expats, we are the poor sods that have to put up with politicians messing around other countries.

I recall my first trip to Malaysia in 2005 - The first question for many was, "Am I American". Their faces calmed when I assured them I was not.

However, much as they were fine with me, Tony Blair wasn't exactly their idol.

Screw interfering politicians of all sorts - they mess up expat (and tourist) life.

In Reply to Fred's post below:

The one that invades by debt has the advantage of causing zero people to die by bomb. That, if anything, is their superpower in the world order.

I don't think the one who invades by debt is Mr. Wonderful or the Mad Bomber either. Ask Germany or Japan were if they better off after the Mad Bomber rebuilt their nation. The Mad Bomber spent more $$$ reconstructing Iraq & Afghanistan than it did rebuilding Germany. Without the same results except maybe the Mad Bombers foes were driving Toyota trucks armed with machine guns.

Also, as for Military-Industrial-Complex-Politicians - that combination steals natural resources as well.

True . . . . Except in the latest conflicts the Mad Bomber didn't steal the oil from Iraq and in Afghanistan, who has over 41 Trillion USD's value in mineral reserves wasn't stolen either. Afghanistan's top exports are: Nuts, Fruits, Gold and Opium.

As for expats, we are the poor sods that have to put up with politicians messing around other countries.

Amen Brother

I recall my first trip to Malaysia in 2005 - The first question for many was, "Am I American". Their faces calmed when I assured them I was not.

I had a similar experience in the Philippines, asked if I was an American, I said yes they smiled at me. So all this has to be taken in respective of what nation is doing the asking.

Screw interfering politicians of all sorts - they mess up expat (and tourist) life.

Agreed

Appreciate what you both say, Bob and Fred but as Fred stated I don't give a "flying rats bum". Yes I watch C and N and N and N and N as well as Foxy and ABC Australia as well as local news and it's never good and all have their knives out waiting for their opportunity. As a retired old "bum" I am more excited to teach my workers how to use a power saw properly and safely instead of a boring old hand saw, they love it but cannot bring themselves to use my laser level but I'm sure they will eventually see the value instead of water levels,,,,, guys? They don't shoot horizontally. A 14 inch drop saw instead of a hacksaw, cordless drills and grinders and the list goes on, I am teaching them but they are also teaching me the finer arts of living in their, now my country in so many ways.

As for the OP's post? Sorry we have diverged here but I remember 11 or 12 years ago living in Manila that I was always referred to as Joe or hey Joe to which I always responded, no sorry, I'm an Aussie. A label? If you are white residing here are you instantly branded as American? Not that that's a problem but stereo types are in all cultures.

Ranted enough.

Cheers, Steve.

Who can be trusted . . . .If you were an original Star Trek fan, in the William Shatner era, three episodes stand out in my mind.

(1) These two planets were in war, one planet the right side of their face was white and the left side was black. The other planet inhabitants face was just the opposite, so they had a war.

(2) These two planets had a trade war. One side had an illness and the other side had the remedy. They raised the price of the remedy. Capt. Kirk found that the illness were the drugs supplied as a remedy causing the addiction and preventing withdrawal symptoms.

(3) Now this is more civilized . . . These two plants were at war, instead of weapons they use a video game. When one side had an imaginary strike on the other then the would be casualties were determined. Those casualties were then euthanized.

Google says :

Trust is a 2-way street. Country leaders have the responsibility to both give trust to their people while maintaining that which they earn through their actions and interactions with other countries. It is a delicate balance that can take years to develop and minutes to breakdown.

Omo...So I say first look at yourself before you judge others.

Google says :
Trust is a 2-way street. Country leaders have the responsibility to both give trust to their people while maintaining that which they earn through their actions and interactions with other countries. It is a delicate balance that can take years to develop and minutes to breakdown.

Omo...So I say first look at yourself before you judge others.

-@manwonder

A Russian quote: Doveryai, no proveryai . . .  . Intellectual property stolen by Ronald Reagan: Trust, but verify.

Fred writes, "If memory serves, US companies' investments in the Philippines comes to about 4 or 5 times that of China's. However, US money is falling each year whilst China's is increasing.
* One of the two rivals has been at war with a bunch of countries since 1947 (without a break), but the other has only two (repeated) border skirmishes under its belt.
* One has militarised a bunch of islands, but the other has fleets sailing to defend the area, but they send them from invaded and militarised islands.
* One has invaded a whole bunch of countries that were no threat to it, the other has not.
* One has destabilised and removed democratically elected governments in favour of its pet dictators, the other has not.

As for me, I trust neither, but I'd far sooner be invaded financially than with bombs - I'll look at history to decide which one is the most likely to start a shooting war. I will be told I'm anti-American, but I only work on undisputed history, not opinion. I won't be taking sides as it's a pointless waste of time. However, one should be aware of as much as possible before forming a idea. -@Fred

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Agreed Fred, "I won't be taking sides .. (but) one should be aware as much as possible.."

And it would seem to me that your normal Pinoy has a fairly clear and accurate idea of Russia anyway.

Perhaps of interest .. https://www.dw.com/en/why-vladimir-puti … a-63169885

(Deutsche Welle (DW) is Germany’s international broadcaster and one of the most successful world media outlets.)

Quote: "It is both a geopolitical necessity and a genuine Russian desire to position Russia as a main source of energy, resources, defense equipment and, in some cases, nuclear technologies for the growing Asian economies," said Philipp Ivanov, the Chief CEO of Asia Society Australia, a think tank.

"The role of countries in the Asia-Pacific region has significantly increased," Putin said at a forum in Russia's Pacific port city of Vladivostok (in Asia) in September, adding that Asia holds "colossal new opportunities for our people."

Russia's newly updated naval doctrine, published on August 31, also aims to boost its military presence in the East.

(However) "Though most Southeast Asian countries have tried to remain neutral on the Ukraine war, even Russia's traditional friends have become standoffish."

Since 1990, Russia has been the main provider of military equipment to the Asian region, according to data from the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI).

(But) Major Asian importers of Russian military goods were already turning away before the Ukraine war. Russian arms exports to India and Vietnam fell by 47% and 71%, respectively, between the 2012-16 and 2017-21 periods, according to a recent SIPRI report.

An exception is the military junta that now controls limited areas of Myanmar. Russia has been the main international benefactor of the junta since its coup in February 2021, providing arms, aid and cheap energy.

"Myanmar's junta has embraced Putin's regime with open arms as a partner to avoid overdependence on Beijing, but the 'alliance' rests on mutual desperation and shared authoritarian political systems," said Hunter Marston, at the Australian National University in Canberra.

If either Min Aung Hlaing, the junta leader, or Putin were to lose his hold on power, Myanmar-Russia ties would likely suffer a very major setback, Marston said, "so the relationship is not sustainable at this point."

According to Frederick Kliem, a lecturer at the Rajaratnam School of International Studies in Singapore, no ASEAN member "sees their economic future with Russia" except Myanmar under the junta.

Because of spiraling inflation, fears of food insecurity and higher costs of living, Asian governments are anxious for an end to the Russia-Ukraine war, said Shada Islam, an independent analyst on Europe and Asia relations.

"This does not mean, however, that governments and people in the region have any illusion about the real geostrategic reason behind Putin's renewed courtship of Asia as he searches for allies in his battle with the West," she added.

"Most Asian countries have learned the hard way to steer clear of being used as pawns of so-called Great Powers in the geopolitical chessboard. Russia's latest 'pivot' to Asia is not going to be any more successful than its last attempt to up its game in the region."

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As Fred points out, asking certain questions in a survey can influence the outcome, and elicit desired answers. That "Yes Prime Minister" link is very illustrative of this.

Within the Philippines, I'm not entirely sure most Filipinos differentiate between types of foreigners, or if they do, rate the value between the various nationalities. I've been called an "Americano" for years, because I'm Caucasian. Instead, they seem to judge visitors based on individual merit, generosity or rudeness. What does "trust" a foreign nationality mean anyway?

My brother-in-law was very concerned during the build up to the Russia-Ukraine war. He wasn't for or against any side in particular, just worried about the international repercussions.

On our island they're installing a 5G tower network. The components are Huawei, and while contentious in other parts of the world, no-one minds the origins of the brand, as long as the internet improves on a budget.

When it comes to international politics, I also see Filipinos as generally non-partisan. As prepping OFW's, they seem willing to travel almost anywhere, and put politics aside, provided they get a job with reasonable pay and conditions. Primarily, they just want to make a go of it, and nationalistic sectarianism seems a non-issue.

Once embedded in the new jurisdiction, Filipinos then might become more vocal about which party they support, or even a sports team. I see this as a sense of gratitude for the host country, and a reflection of influences around them (like a foreign husband for example). In my case, my Filipina wife is more pro-monarchy than me (I'm not anti, just not bothered). This weekend she was glued to the TV watching the Queen's funeral, and genuinely wanted to stand in solidarity with those mourning. She's integrated into UK life.

At the same time, they seldom lose their Filipino patriotism,  and become filled with pride when a Filipino wins an international sporting event or is internationally recognised in a beauty pageant, and naturally gravitate toward fellow countrymen in a cafe when they travel, to chat and briefly connect. This is touching, and a nice little lesson in humanity.

@gsturdee

Funny you should mention the bit about maybe supporting a sporting team from abroad. I have had a few failed relationships with Filipinos and I used to take small gifts when we first met. One of the gifts was a ladies West Ham United football shirt, so if you ever see a Filipino wearing one, I may have known her.

@Cherryann01

Mate, she's probably wearing a Millwall football shirt now

@Cherryann01
Mate, she's probably wearing a Millwall football shirt now

-@gsturdee

That would be the end of any relationship

@Cherryann01
Mate, she's probably wearing a Millwall football shirt now

-@gsturdee

She's the one who is as drunk as a lord and swearing whilst head butting random people in the street.

She's the one who is as drunk as a lord and swearing whilst head butting random people in the street. -@Fred

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So, she still takes after him then?

She's the one who is as drunk as a lord and swearing whilst head butting random people in the street. -@Fred

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So, she still takes after him then?


-@PalawOne

Now now, I am a peaceful, fun loving man who just happens to like football. I have met worse though. When I was stationed at a place called Lossiemouth in Scotland many years ago, we used to go to the local discos in Elgin and there were a group of women known as the Buckie Commandos who used to frequent the places at weekends. They were a rough lot, dressed like teddy boys, some wearing Doc Martin boots. Even we used too try keep out of their way.

Ah yes, those Buckie Commando gals.. female teddy-boys, in Doc Martins, drunk and treading all over your toes on the dancefloor, probably lots wearing Millwall football shirts, the Millwall Rovers being a works side formed in summer 1885 by Morton's Cannery workers on the Isle of Dogs.

Who would ever be forgetting those gals?

@Cherryann01

My GF has a Jazz FM t-shirt which goes right down to the thighs meaning she can dispense with the underwear..

Mind you, she's not wearing the t-shirt for very long ..

Mind you, she's not wearing the t-shirt for very long ..
-@PalawOne

I love that look, long T Shirt and nothing else haha.

But I do have to say this Palawan 1 - I had you down has a pipe and slippers man with maybe the odd nip of rum at the end of the day. A bit like Uncle Albert in Only Fools & Horses.

I love that look, long T Shirt and nothing else haha.

And of course Filipina's are born models. Sensuality comes naturally to them. Sometimes the imagination can be a more powerful aphrodisiac than the reality - especially when your seated in a public place..

Ehhrmm. Regarding the original topic, although the sample size was only 1200 adults, it is very plausible it speaks the opinion on the people. I, myself and me do agree with the results. I must say I am law-abiding (in many ways but driving), God-fearing, and peace-loving gentleman (believe me)  😀

Amen to the good Lord

Regarding the original topic, although the sample size was only 1200 adults, it is very plausible it speaks the opinion on the people
-@Jackson4

It very well might, but that in turn depends on who has the most successful propaganda. At the moment, in most of the world, that's the US.

People as a whole are as thick as pudding so tend to eat whatever horse poop is fed to them.

WMD, anyone?

Politics, a whole host of lies and crap there to hide how much people are screwing you for.

But I do have to say this Palawan 1 - I had you down has a pipe and slippers man with maybe the odd nip of rum at the end of the day. A bit like Uncle Albert in Only Fools & Horses.
-@Cherryann01

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Well must say, not quite yet the pipe and slippers stage father.

It helps my wife is a pretty-pinay, and we're a truly in-love, kind-heart couple.

There's lots of things a truly loving male and female do to make sure existence is exciting.

But I do have to say this Palawan 1 - I had you down has a pipe and slippers man with maybe the odd nip of rum at the end of the day. A bit like Uncle Albert in Only Fools & Horses.
-@Cherryann01
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Well must say, not quite yet the pipe and slippers stage father.

It helps my wife is a pretty-pinay, and we're a truly in-love, kind-heart couple.

There's lots of things a truly loving male and female do to make sure existence is exciting.
-@PalawOne

A visit to the local Ann Summers shop for you then I guess

It helps my wife is a pretty-pinay, and we're a truly in-love, kind-heart couple. There's lots of things a truly loving male and female do to make sure existence is exciting. -@PalawOne
A visit to the local Ann Summers shop for you then I guess
-@Cherryann01

Haha, very interesting mate.

Ann Summers hasn't reached our Aussie continent

Could it be, maybe .. it's just you U.K. blokes whom need her?

It helps my wife is a pretty-pinay, and we're a truly in-love, kind-heart couple. There's lots of things a truly loving male and female do to make sure existence is exciting. -@PalawOne
A visit to the local Ann Summers shop for you then I guess
-@Cherryann01

Haha, very interesting mate.

Ann Summers hasn't reached our Aussie continent

Could it be, maybe .. it's just you U.K. blokes whom need her?
-@PalawOne

I was not referring to the blow up doll section, just the sexy outfits they sell haha.

Regarding the original topic, although the sample size was only 1200 adults, it is very plausible it speaks the opinion on the people
-@Jackson4

It very well might, but that in turn depends on who has the most successful propaganda. At the moment, in most of the world, that's the US.
People as a whole are as thick as pudding so tend to eat whatever horse poop is fed to them.
WMD, anyone?

Politics, a whole host of lies and crap there to hide how much people are screwing you for.
-@Fred

Very true. The candidate who has the loudest voice with the best marketing strategy on the tree stump gets to win. It is still democracy where we can choose who will screw us good citizens. I would like a leader who will keep the value of my money strong so I do not have to resort to eating rice & beans.