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Are 3 year degrees not valid in Vietnam?

Last activity 29 August 2023 by ajairon

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Mezz007

I've read everywhere that Vietnam requires a 4 year degree from whoever that holds a TEFL degree.

If one has a 3 year degree, will they face problems when trying to land a job or be simply rejected?

OceanBeach92107

I've read everywhere that Vietnam requires a 4 year degree from whoever that holds a TEFL degree.
If one has a 3 year degree, will they face problems when trying to land a job or be simply rejected?
-@Mezz


You're just revealing more about what you don't know.


The term "four year degree" refers to the amount of time traditionally taken to complete a bachelors degree.


In reality these days, it could easily be called a 5-year or 6-year or more-years degree, since many people are not able to complete the degree in 4 years time.


There are however geniuses and others who managed to complete the degree in less than 4 years, sometimes before they turn 18 years of age.


It's the degree from a recognized accredited institution that's important (not an "associates degree") and if you have it you won't have a problem, but since you don't have it, you will.

Mezz007

@OceanBeach92107

Well, that is the case in other countries, I guess.

Here you have 3 years to complete one and you cannot extend the time nor reduce it. If you leave after first year, you have to start it all over again. The Indian government has envisaged a new education policy similar to what you have cited above, but it was expected to come into force in 2020. But it's still the same here.

That's unfortunate, I guess. But that's the reality in most of the South Asian countries.

OceanBeach92107

@OceanBeach92107
Well, that is the case in other countries, I guess.
Here you have 3 years to complete one and you cannot extend the time nor reduce it. If you leave after first year, you have to start it all over again. The Indian government has envisaged a new education policy similar to what you have cited above, but it was expected to come into force in 2020. But it's still the same here.
That's unfortunate, I guess. But that's the reality in most of the South Asian countries.
-@Mezz007


Ultimately, that would be an issue to check with the consulate or embassy of Vietnam in your country, regarding "equivalency".


Vietnam foreign (service) embassy or consulate staff are always the best source of information regarding such issues.


If they are willing to certify a degree (AND the school that issued it) as equivalent to the required bachelors degree, then you wouldn't have any problem.


But believe me, these are not people who will spend much if any time answering hypothetical questions for you.


(That's a general thing you'll discover about most Vietnamese officials)


When you have the official paperwork and you are ready to submit it, THEN they will look at that specific paperwork at that specific point in time and they will give you a determination.

charmavietnam

@Mezz007

I suggest you follow your first thread to ask related questions rather than creating multiple threads!

As I messaged you in private, 3 years college degree in India is enough to apply for a work Permit as long as you obtained it from a reputable University, as we don't have a 4-year university bachelor's degree!

Ford Prefect

Vietnam requires a bachelor degree for any foreigner wanting to teach English. In some countries, like the U.S., a bachelor degree takes four years. In some, like Britain, it takes three years. But, like OceanBeach said, it should be an accredited Bachelor Degree.

Mezz007

So, all I need are an online TEFL and a bachelor's degree? I don't have to have IELTS too?

charmavietnam

Po tay

Ford Prefect

@Mezz007 Teachers from some countries need to show English proficiency with IELTS scores for examples. I'm not sure which countries that is.

drutter

I've read everywhere that Vietnam requires a 4 year degree from whoever that holds a TEFL degree.
If one has a 3 year degree, will they face problems when trying to land a job or be simply rejected?
-@Mezz

You're just revealing more about what you don't know.

The term "four year degree" refers to the amount of time traditionally taken to complete a bachelors degree.

In reality these days, it could easily be called a 5-year or 6-year or more-years degree, since many people are not able to complete the degree in 4 years time.

There are however geniuses and others who managed to complete the degree in less than 4 years, sometimes before they turn 18 years of age.

It's the degree from a recognized accredited institution that's important (not an "associates degree") and if you have it you won't have a problem, but since you don't have it, you will.
-@OceanBeach92107

I'm quite sure OceanBeach has it correct. What is required is a Bachelors Degree in any discipline. They are not going to ask you how long it took you to get it. I took 5 years to get mine but I added classes on for a TEFL certification too. Anyhow I've been teaching here for 7 years, taught in several places, and never once had anyone ask me how long it took me to get my BA.

mikedylan2001

@Ford Prefect they take degrees but they also take five years of teaching experience as long as you can prove it

THIGV

The bureaucrats in VN seem to take these things at face value.  if the diploma says "Bachelor" or "Bachelaureate" or similar it should be OK.    I have never seen a diploma that included how many years it took.   One thing to watch for that seems to be a trending fashion is to give out diplomas in languages other than English.  This may be part of an anti-colonialst trend but if your diploma is in any language other than English, I would strongly suggest that you get it translated at home and certified by the VN embassy/consulate in the home country.  Even a French diploma could be problematic, although not impossible, within Vietnam.

ajairon

I remember my first try applying for a Visa Biz type.  I'm a Engineer but my sponsor told me my application was rejected because the Officer at DOLISA mentioned my Diploma doesn't detail studies greater than 4 year....  What????   I took a deep breath and said to my sponsor: please try again and this time explain them an Engineer Degree has a common pensum of 4 years in any country of this blue planet....  In any case my sworn curriculum of 5 years of experience as a specialist doesn't even need a Carrear. Finally they recognized their mistake and approved my application.


Back to the main topic in this post, lets keep in mind the maxima of any country to protect job possitions for local citizens over expats. Thus expats must justify to have a plus:   To run as Teacher of English the TESOL is better than TEFL...  both are in order to demonstrate you have the "pedagoy" to Teaching English, but the first one certificates you can teach to people who doesn't speak your native language... +your years of experience...  as well the IETLS-B2 (or major), to demonstrate how fluent you are.  If you were a native English speaker, the IETLS is not required

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