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Question about spouse that can't be 8 or more months in Portugal

Last activity 29 June 2023 by JohnnyPT

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navegarepreciso

We're planning to move to Portugal in the next few years with the D7 visa. I have no problems with the minimum stay requirement (which is, apparently, 16 months for first 2 years - about 8 months per year, and 28 for the next 3 years - which is about 9.3 months per year).


However, my wife has a sick sister and sick parents that require a lot of traveling, plus our adult children live in the US. We might manage for her to stay 6 months in Portugal, but we can tell it'll be almost impossible for her to stay 8 months.

Is there a way for the spouse to be in a different residency or visa? We can't afford the golden visa (especially with the upcoming changes) and the tourist visa won't work because of the 90/180 rule. She is Brazilian, if that makes any difference.


Thanks!

JohnnyPT

Hi,


Being Brazilian does not give her additional benefits for these periods of stay not to be fulfilled.


There is an option for not meeting these minimum periods, which is to be able to prove that she is developing a professional, business, cultural or social activity in the country of destination.


As a general rule, "reasonable reasons" must be demonstrated for the absence, under penalty of the authorisation being cancelled or its renewal denied. You really need to get information from SEF, only they will be able to advise you.


Golden visa was the right one for you, not the D7. But Golden visa is now much more difficult to get, but it is still possible under some rules. Think about it and find out about it.


Regards

navegarepreciso

Thanks for your reply.


So I'm assuming even the family reunification visa has the same minimum stay requirements?

JohnnyPT

Case study here:

https://www.direitocomparado.pt/residencia-portugal


SEF - DEVER DE COMUNICAÇÃO

https://imigrante.sef.pt/direitos-deveres/


Se titular de autorização de residência temporária e, durante o seu período de validade, pretender ausentar-se de Portugal por período superior a seis meses consecutivos ou oito meses interpolados deverá comunicar esse facto ao SEF, antes de sair de território nacional

navegarepreciso

Interesting that the law mentioned here https://www.direitocomparado.pt/residencia-portugal (lei n.º 23/2007) was before they changed the time of the temporary residency from 1 to 2 years for the first one, and from 2 to 3 years for the second one during COVID. I wonder if it was a mistake. No other residency visa in Europe is so strict like the Portuguese after the changes.


It does seem that my wife could go after "razões atendíveis" to help take care of her relatives although she has to do that before traveling "deverá comunicar esse facto ao SEF" (although I read somewhere that usually SEF doesn't reply to those requests, or they do reply but addressing something else). Maybe even visiting adult children in the US may be covered there. Oh well, I guess we'll need to talk to a lawyer before starting the process.

JohnnyPT

You are right, the text of the case presented refers to 2019 and the change from 1 to 2 years was made in 2020.


Regarding Brazilian citizens, there have recently been more favourable visa changes. Find out more about this. But for the D7 visa the rules are the same for all applicants, regardless of their country of origin.


https://www.portugal.gov.pt/pt/gc23/com … cedimentos


PDF

https://www.acm.gov.pt/documents/10181/ … -Mudou.pdf

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