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I am working in malta on work permit, non EU citizen. I found a job in Amsterdam. Do my employer has to register vacancy with UWV? In order to apply for work permit (GVVA)
Thanks
Think you need a residency permit from the IND, perhaps your employer will sponsor you for it, you'll need Dutch language certificate level A1
I am working in malta on work permit, non EU citizen. I found a job in Amsterdam. Do my employer has to register vacancy with UWV? In order to apply for work permit (GVVA)
Thanks
-@deepsingh15845
Your work permit for Malta is only valid for Malta. If you move to any other country you will have to start again and apply for a new work visa in the country you wish to move to and like Peter has said you will also have to take an language exam.
@deepsingh15845
I am NON-EU too (from America), and a Dutch company hired me for a job here and then sponsored me for a Knowledge Workerś permit - now termed a Highly Skill Migrant.
https://business.gov.nl/coming-to-the-n … employees/
My understanding is that the company has to contact the IND (Immigration Service) and get permission to differ the position to a Non-EU candidate.
What happened is The Dutch (well, every country) had to hire their own people first (that extends to EU people) for the position UNLESS they can not find a local (EU) resource to fill the position. That is when they contact the IND and ask if they can open the position to any candidate worldwide.
The IND will do its research, and indeed, if they discover the position is a scarce resource position, it will allow the company to hire a candidate from outside the EU. Then, the company will arrange your (MVV) Working Permit/Residence permit. These jobs are usually IT positions, but there are other jobs as well.
As such, knowledge of the Dutch language is not required for the candidate to take a Highly skilled migrant position. Gosh, if everyone had to speak Dutch before they could accept one of these Highly skilled migrant jobs ... the country would NEVER find candidates, and the country would be hurting without these skills. I mean, the country needs these skilled people far more than these people need a job here.
See this link for details -
https://business.gov.nl/coming-to-the-n … employees/
Now, if this job is NOT a Highly skilled migrant position and you are NON-EU, you can't get a permit to work here at all unless you are married to a local Dutch person. If this is the case, you would be in direct competition with a Dutch person for the job, so you would have to speak fluent Dutch to be hired, obviously. But this has nothing to do with a Highly Skilled Migrant visa.
Make sure you are clear about this because there are several ways to move and work here, and EACH has its own immigration requirements.
If you have any questions, feel free to contact me directly.
Becky
@deepsingh15845
Umm I think you are confused.
The UWV is basically where you go if you are fired or laid off or you become ill and therefore no longer work at your Dutch job.
In that case, the government will give you a monthly unemployment benefit until you find another job.
To my knowledge, this agency has nothing to do with getting NON-EU people hired at a Dutch company.
Think you need a residency permit from the IND, perhaps your employer will sponsor you for it, you'll need Dutch language certificate level A1
-@Peter Lorimer
Wrong information about the Dutch language.
As such, knowledge of the Dutch language is not required for the candidate to take a Highly skilled migrant position. Gosh, if everyone had to speak Dutch before they could accept one of these Highly skilled migrant jobs ... the country would NEVER find candidates, and the country would be hurting without these skills. I mean, the country needs these skilled people far more than these people need a job here.
See this link for details -
https://business.gov.nl/coming-to-the-n … employees/-@Becka A.
How odd it might seem, some nationalities are exempt of it.
It depends also on the company, the vacancy
and the contract.
As the OP didn't give any more details about the job he found,we can not give him any advice for his situation just general and detailed information like you did.
@deepsingh15845
Umm I think you are confused.
The UWV is basically where you go if you are fired or laid off or you become ill and therefore no longer work at your Dutch job.
In that case, the government will give you a monthly unemployment benefit until you find another job.
To my knowledge, this agency has nothing to do with getting NON-EU people hired at a Dutch company.
https://www.uwv.nl/particulieren/index.aspx-@Becka A.
After a minimum a year of labour and only for those who have an unlimited permit to stay.
@SimCityAT I need information regarding uwv not language exam
-@deepsingh15845
You have nothing to do with UWV if your contract is temporary and your permit is connected to your work permit.
@Primadonna
Umm, I don´t get what you are saying, but getting a work visa as a Knowledge migrant has nothing to do with what particular country the applicant is from.
The point is that if the job is a scarce resource position, the company has to gain approval from the IND to hire someone from outside the EU. These companies already know this. They know they cannot hire someone who is right for the job alone ... the job has to pass the IND rules.
I do not know what kind of job the person writing this thread was offered ... but he definitely can't work here legally without having a knowledge migrant visa. That is a really big deal. If caught (and for sure they will be caught), the company will receive a heavy fine, and the applicant will be deported... and not in a nice way.
This is the ONLY way to get a job here ... unless you are already married to a Dutch person.
I have lived here almost 24 years, and I do not know how many expats I have met who had these visas, but there have been a lot of them, and they were from all over the world.
The link I attached above explains this, but there are several IND links that go into more detail.
@Primadonna
Umm, I don´t get what you are saying, but getting a work visa as a Knowledge migrant has nothing to do with what particular country the applicant is from.
The point is that if the job is a scarce resource position, the company has to gain approval from the IND to hire someone from outside the EU. These companies already know this. They know they cannot hire someone who is right for the job alone ... the job has to pass the IND rules.
I do not know what kind of job the person writing this thread was offered ... but he definitely can't work here legally without having a knowledge migrant visa. That is a really big deal. If caught (and for sure they will be caught), the company will receive a heavy fine, and the applicant will be deported... and not in a nice way.
This is the ONLY way to get a job here ... unless you are already married to a Dutch person.
I have lived here almost 24 years, and I do not know how many expats I have met who had these visas, but there have been a lot of them, and they were from all over the world.
The link I attached above explains this, but there are several IND links that go into more detail.
-@Becka A.
Was referring to the requirement of learning Dutch.
@Primadonna
Ok, but again, if you are here with a Knowledge Migrant visa .. what they need are your skills, and if the IND will bless the position offered to a NON-EU candidate, they do so because they see the country needs the skills.
I am not talking about the job ... I am talking about the Knowledge Migrant visa .. although I cannot imagine a job requiring Dutch IF you are a Knowledge Migrant.
So definitely, Dutch is not required for such a job, which, as I mentioned, is typically an IT job. I was recruited as an IT Consultant after posting my CV (resume) on https://www.monsterboard.nl/.
So when I started this job, I had to hit the ground running. Meaning (aside from HR things) the FIRST day, I had to sit down and begin my performance analysis of one of their Servers. That is what I do. So ... no, I didn't need to speak Dutch to do this job - none of these jobs require Dutch because software is written in English, and it runs the same in every country in the world. It was my Dutch co-workers who needed to speak very good English to do this work.
It doesn't matter what country you are from or what company hires you.... I have never heard of a Knowledge worker who was required to learn Dutch before taking a Job here.
I mean, it takes YEARS to be fluent in Dutch, so ... what company would want to hire you for your skills but be willing to wait until you learned Dutch first? And what candidate would be willing to accept a job but then spend years learning Dutch before they could start a job?
Nooo, I just would have taken a job in Germany or France etc.
Makes no sense.
Another important point ...
You cannot apply for a Knowledge Migrant job if you are already here by any means.
You have to be recruited from aboard ... which goes back to the same point. Why would a Dutch company of the IND recruit a NON-EU applicant but then have some requirement that he also speaks ... Dutch? Who would qualify?
In fact, a lot of Knowledge Migrants have been here for years and cannot speak a word of Dutch.
I do not know what kind of job the person writing this thread was offered ... but he definitely can't work here legally without having a knowledge migrant visa.
Pretty sure there's other employment visa options out there available other than knowledge migrant, but yes, the requirements are a LOT higher for those job classes (need to know Dutch, can't get a gig until they've verified someone within the EU can do the job, etc).
@3Josh
Umm, not really. Not if you are an adult and want a full-time job. I am not counting the 16 hours a week you are allowed to work if you are a student at University or if you want a permit for seasonal work - like picking strawberries, etc.
I just looked up the latest and this is what I found.
Types of work permits in the Netherlands
The main kinds of work permits that apply to the Netherlands are:
GVVA or Single Permit
Highly skilled migrant permit
Orientation year (zoekjaar) permits for expat graduates
Entrepreneur permit
As of 2014 they have put this GVVA permit in place where it says (oh and I see the UWV does, in fact, process those applications after all. This is new.
. .. a GVVA work permit applicationcan be filed, an employer must show that efforts have taken place to recruit a suitable employee in the Netherlands and European Union. Only after these recruitment efforts have not led to a suitable candidate can an employer start looking for employees outside the EU.
But this is what they used to require for the Knowledge Migrant visa, which is now called the Highly Skilled migrant visa - but now this visa says -
Highly skilled migrant permit in the Netherlands
The highly skilled migrant scheme (kennismigrant) is designed to allow Dutch employers to bring talented foreign professionals to the Netherlands and retain them. This means that employers in the Netherlands can organise Dutch work permits quickly for highly skilled international employees, without having to prove that there are no suitable Dutch or EU candidates.
As I said - if you are here with a Dutch or EU partner - you do not need a working permit, but of course, you are in direct competition with a Dutch person for the job, so of course, you have to speak Dutch. This is listed here -
Working permit with a Dutch / EU partner
Internationals who have a residence permit through their Dutch or EU partner or parents are able to work in the Netherlands without restriction.
There is a lot more detail to these permits so you don't even have to take my word for it. You can look it up yourself.
https://www.iamexpat.nl/expat-info/offi … therlands.
The two little know working permits are for a limited time with several contracts that I found in the government website are -
-Residence permit for seasonal work
-Working holiday residence permit
https://ind.nl/en/search?s=work+permit
I really take exception to people spreading the wrong information because all it leads to is disappointment, and for no good reason. I have seen it happen over and over when all people have to do is ... look up the procedures.
I am tired of repeating myself, though. People can just do whatever they want and find out the hard way - so I am done with this topic.
@Primadonna
Ok, but again, if you are here with a Knowledge Migrant visa .. what they need are your skills, and if the IND will bless the position offered to a NON-EU candidate, they do so because they see the country needs the skills.
I am not talking about the job ... I am talking about the Knowledge Migrant visa .. although I cannot imagine a job requiring Dutch IF you are a Knowledge Migrant.
So definitely, Dutch is not required for such a job, which, as I mentioned, is typically an IT job. I was recruited as an IT Consultant after posting my CV (resume) on https://www.monsterboard.nl/.
So when I started this job, I had to hit the ground running. Meaning (aside from HR things) the FIRST day, I had to sit down and begin my performance analysis of one of their Servers. That is what I do. So ... no, I didn't need to speak Dutch to do this job - none of these jobs require Dutch because software is written in English, and it runs the same in every country in the world. It was my Dutch co-workers who needed to speak very good English to do this work.
It doesn't matter what country you are from or what company hires you.... I have never heard of a Knowledge worker who was required to learn Dutch before taking a Job here.
I mean, it takes YEARS to be fluent in Dutch, so ... what company would want to hire you for your skills but be willing to wait until you learned Dutch first? And what candidate would be willing to accept a job but then spend years learning Dutch before they could start a job?
Nooo, I just would have taken a job in Germany or France etc.
Makes no sense.
-@Becka A.
Thanks, I really appreciate it, for the long and detailed response but I don't need to know this kind information. I am fully aware of the different types of permits and their requirements.
It comes down which path you choose or suitable for you.
Some have tougher requirements than others.
My name is Alex mensah I m skills worker for the construction company work I have my passport and document bank statements I need visa for the work permit thank you
My name is Alex mensah I m skills worker for the construction company work I have my passport and document bank statements I need visa for the work permit thank you
-@mensahalex1984
Welcome on board Alex 🤗
Asking here for a work visa is not the right place and it doesn't work like that.
You need to apply at the companies itself and get if they can't find Dutch workforce, they can look into Europe and if still not successful, they can look further. If they found someone they need to ask permission at the immigration organisation.
This is in a nutshell how it goes.
Good luck with your adventure.
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