More American Expats coming to the Philippines?

         I know 5 US expats from the Lehigh Valley in PA currently living in the Philippines.  They all brought their Filipina wives along with them.

I better stop my 2/3 packs of cigarettes a day then perhaps depression will set in? Living alone or selecting social isolation is a choice no different to smoking/alcohol or too much sex. (may haps not enough).

Col your figures seem robotic and based only on US figures, how are we going here in the Philippines for depression? Self imposed social isolation possibly leading to depression or not is easy to achieve in any country, choice.

Cheers, Steve.

Col (long) Paste & Post said. . . . <snip> America's . . . . . behind<snip>

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Nowhere in the Col long repost did mention the Philippines.     

He/it did in the title but not a relative reason why all the depressed souls are moving any where let alone the Philippines nor addressing the problem/reality within certain countries.

OMO.

Cheers, Steve.

I would make one note. Don't quote the daily fail comic until you've checked their stories. Publishing made up rubbish is a hobby for that mind numbing publication.

Amazingly, the daily fail doesn't seem to have made this one up

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr199.pdf

Saying that, rubbish like the daily fail tends to cherry pick facts to suit them.

Read it for yourselves and decide.

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Thanks for all these sensible discussion points gents. And thanks also Fred for supplying the relevant research source material web location. As you say, that is: National Health Statistics Reports, Number 199, February 15 2024.  And as such, this newspaper report seems reliable.

So what do we make of these probably accurate results?

For me, one thing they strongly hint of is an increase in U.S. gents seeking expat-romances?

And why not?

If one's likely to be depressed, better to do so with female company on lovely tropical islands?

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Regardless Fred we all sift through the news and tripe proffered to the gullible and thinkers, the OP had nothing to do with citizens moving to any country.

These posters come and go, usually the sooner the better or booted off the site.

Simply read the crap some post on all expat sites that is not relative.

OMO.

Cheers, Steve.

I just read your pitiful response toot toot toot. Why would/could you want to be depressed living on a lovely tropical island? Individual choice. Your OP never mentioned a mass exodus for the supposed depressed let alone the Philippines. Perhaps come up with an answer for the 40 million (supposedly) souls suffering depression in your country where ever that may be and don't throw your crap to the Philippines, maybe Indonesia where Fred will jump on you also.

Philippines forum is about life here and not other countries problems, God knows there are enough here without you foisting more rubbish here, turn on the TV. Get a life.

OMO.

Cheers, Steve. 

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Seems smart an expatriation discussion group discusses likely expatriation drivers.

For example, how might we best help?

Whatever. Sincerest best wishes gents

It's not just Stateside that has this loneliness phenomenon. It actually applies to many advanced (OECD) countries including the UK where I reside. Many people especially women choose to live a solitary (as the great Greta Garbo once said " I want to be alone" ) lifestyle.

I'm a confirmed bachelor, never wanted kids, and am content with my situation in life. I would say 30% of my neighbours in my road are single occupancy properties, mostly female. Women on the whole are more suited to living alone for various reasons but there are exceptions. I'm happy doing my own house chores. I could afford to have a cleaner but find the work therapeutic along with my garden. I enjoy cooking but have an active social life regularly meeting up with fellow diners at the Bath dinner club.

There are many guys out there who, especially after a harrowing divorce, prefer solitude. Take Old Dog New Tricks in Dumaguete. He lived on his own for 10 years before coming out to the Philippines and was not on a mission to find a soulmate on his arrival.

The linkage between loneliness and the Philippines is appropriate for the above post. Without social media and the internet many Americans who found themselves divorced in the 70's would never be aware of the pool of beautiful young women and cheap lifestyle available in the Philippines. A few did go down the route of the mail order bride but lets face it most of those were 'anoraks' Heck many US citizens would be hard pressed to name America's only colony: it begins with a P.

Oh and for the benefit of our American friends Fred's reference to the Daily Fail is in fact a right wing newspaper in the UK but incorrectly spelt

Toot toot toot you will never help, what have drivers got to do with depression in your country let alone the Philippines? My simple observations sees no depression here as always support from family.

Go post your rhetoric on a site that also won't take notice, you are talking crap and always peddle your robotic prophesies and unfounded rubbish on the wrong site.

Your Bio shows Australia and as an Aussie I know no one stupid enough to hang sh1t on another country without credible evidence and remember mate this is the Philippines forum,,,,, go to the US expat forum, you won't last long there mate.

This site is for expats living or wishing to live in the Philippines not rhetoric related to other countries.

To the moderators please review the dialog from toot toot over its last 33 submissions. BOT?

OMO.

Cheers, Steve.

The linkage between loneliness and the Philippines is appropriate for the above post. Without social media and the internet many Americans who found themselves divorced in the 70's would never be aware of the pool of beautiful young women and cheap lifestyle available in the Philippines. A few did go down the route of the mail order bride but lets face it most of those were 'anoraks' Heck many US citizens would be hard pressed to name America's only colony: it begins with a P.    -@Lotus Eater

anorak noun [C] (PERSON)

UK disapproving

A boring person who is too interested in the details of a hobby and finds it difficult to meet and spend time with other people:

"There are enough facts and figures in this book to keep even the most obsessive anorak fascinated for hours."

Now that I know what an anorak is, might that also apply to people spending hours in front of a screen responding to expat forums lol?

Actually, I would think those old pen-pal guys had a rare sense of adventure with a unique way of dealing with loneliness in their lives. Envious commentators referred to them as mail order brides, almost as if human trafficking were involved but nothing could be further from the truth. Some of us got married to Filipinas a decade before the www hit the general public. Just adding perspective.

BTW, the commonwealth of Puerto Rico also begins with a P, still a colony and refuses to become either a State or an independent country. In turning down independence, they may have seen the progress made after the other P (once the Pearl of the Orient) gave up commonwealth status.

I can see how expatriation could be driven by a lousey lifestyle in a home country.

It, amongst a lot of other factors, keeps me away from the mess we know as the UK.

The cost of living crisis caused by idiotic politics, the inability to say a man has a penis and a woman does not, along with seeeing doggers in the streets.

Between that stuff and the fact I'd probably be stacking supermarket shelves instead of working as a professional, means stuff the UK to Hades.

big pearl said. . . . I just read your pitiful response toot toot toot.

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The correct answer is COLONEL MUSTARD IN THE LIBRARY DID IT WITH A.I.

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Some good points all, Mugteck, Bob, BP, Fred, Lotus and Dan. Thanks.

So this month the American government officially reports: "nearly 40 million US adults live alone, and are 64% more likely to be depressed than their peers. Also that middle aged adults, aged between 45 and 64 years old, made up the largest proportion whom live alone."

Agreed Lotus, this same issue is probably an OECD concern.

Am wondering, would we agree that one very sensible step for some/many of these men and women could be expatriation?

If so then this website appears to have a major social-duty in helping heal many.

And we as single spokes in expat.coms wheel, are more important than we think.

Seems inevitable, our world continues to shrink, and we expats are trend-setters?

Howdy, heroes 

Yeah, toot toot is a bot. Same league as Wall-E and HAL.

    Yeah, toot toot is a bot. Same league as Wall-E and HAL.    -@Jackson4

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Hahaha Bob & Jack, although do have a degree in psychology, and a degree in social media and a masters in info tech, (happy to post proof) am not yet a bot.

No AI, just I.

Cheers gents.

Sgt. Bilko - I think we may have a rank differential

While I am not going to disagree with the statistics I do not think that they represent a clear picture.

You stated that 64% of the 40 million adults living alone were more likely to be depressed but you have to ask why they are living alone. A big percentage will be living alone because of a failed marriage and if they continued to live with a partner in a unhappy marriage they would probably be even more depressed.

I am divorced and living alone now but believe me, it is preferable to the last few months of my marriage when I was trapped living with a woman and knowing that the marriage was over and it was just a matter of time before the divorce came through. We hardly spoke to each other, tried to avoid any contact with each other apart from matters concerning and about our daughter and we did everything separately including washing clothes and cooking. It was a living hell and I am thinking that a good percentage of the 64% you quoted as being depressed were depressed even more before they lived alone.

@Cherryann01

Yes valid points CA although fortunately I don't speak from experience. That said my father was divorced twice and my paternal grandfather once so maybe I figured that marriage was not in my genetic make up.

Apparently though according to those pesky statistics married men by and large live longer than single guys like moi. But then they don't have to scrub the kitchen floor like I do

Col Rootentoot said. . . . Hahaha Bob & Jack, although do have a degree in psychology, and a degree in social media and a masters in info tech, (happy to post proof) am not yet a bot.

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If it acts like a duck, quack likes a duck, it must be a Woke Duck with a degree in Psychology, Social Media and a Masters in Info Tech.

Root a toot toot you're lecturing to the choir made up of us Basket of Deplorables.

Why would a depressed person travel 8,000 miles to see people living in poverty?  How many white women come by themselves to the Philippines?  That person extending a hand to you on the street is not looking for a low five, but rather 5 pesos.  The idea that widows and widowers and divorces will change their way of life to cure depression is asking a lot.

        Yeah, toot toot is a bot. Same league as Wall-E and HAL.    -@Jackson4

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Hahaha Bob & Jack, although do have a degree in psychology, and a degree in social media and a masters in info tech, (happy to post proof) am not yet a bot.

No AI, just I.

Cheers gents.
   

    -@Col Rootentoot

Perhaps a self professed tosser? Most of us here suffer fools lightly but not garbage posts that are irrelevant to this forum,,,,, pick your mark with all your supposed degrees and a masters, one wonders why you bother with us simpletons. Get a life rings a bell but difficult for ones and zeros to achieve.

OMO.

Cheers, Steve.

Without the trolling that is far too common on this country's section, I wonder how many expats do a runner to other countries because of loneliness in their own.

My main reasons were unhappiness with the lifestyle and way things were going in the UK rather than loneliness/depression, but I think I would be enjoying a mix of the latter pair if I'd stayed around in Blighty.

Many, or maybe most, expats tend to lead well paid lives, or at least have enough not to worry about paying the electricity bill. From what I read about the UK, it's bloody hard work to afford lunch half of the time.

That has to lead to being pissed off at the very least, and is very likely to strain relationships.

@ Fred

Trolling like the over qualified OP?

Regardless we move to different countries for many reasons and seriously doubt depression is a reason to uproot ones life only to achieve it elsewhere.

I wonder why some dude with 2 degrees and a masters of whatever bothers or finds the time to be involved in an expat site sprouting irrelevancies. My older brother has 3 degrees, 2 masters and a doctorate and to me he is an educated idiot, schooled until he was 41, more letters after his name than in his name,,,,,, ego?

Depression is real in all societies but to infer that depressed souls move to the Philippines/other countries is a non starter.

To the OP please post something relevant to this expat forum that is useful instead of common knowledge.

Cheers, Steve 

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