Consequences of Trump as US President.

Agree Bob, EV's are not really a viable option for many, me included.

Cheers, Steve.

Fred said . . . . It should also be noted, a person's IQ has nothing to do with their personality AND they can still be epically wrong on a wide variety of subjects.

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Fred you're a big man for fessing up your shortcomings, I salute you.

Agree Bob, EV's are not really a viable option for many, me included.
Cheers, Steve. - @bigpearl

I have two.

An EV car would be a bad idea as the cost against fuel savings are massively out of balance. It would take me about 30 years to recover the investment.

However, my EV bikes were cheap as they use old tech rather than Lithium batteries.

My wife uses hers for the daily 3km return trip to work, and I use mine for bobbing around when it's inconvenient to use a car.

She charges hers once a fortnight, but mine only gets plugged in once every month.

Great cheap transport.

Fred said . . . . It should also be noted, a person's IQ has nothing to do with their personality AND they can still be epically wrong on a wide variety of subjects.
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Fred you're a big man for fessing up your shortcomings, I salute you. - @Enzyte Bob

I am often wrong - everyone is to a level.

The differences between Trump and myself are:

I know it

I try to improve myself by realising and not repeating errors.

Trump does not.

Fred said . . . . I am often wrong - everyone is to a level.
The differences between Trump and myself are:
I know it

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Also the differences are a few billion dollars. He knows it.

Fred said . . . .  I am often wrong - everyone is to a level.
The differences between Trump and myself are:
I know it

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Also the differences are a few billion dollars. He knows it.
- @Enzyte Bob

IQ doesn't make you right.

Money doesn't make you right, especially if you got it illegally

https://oversightdemocrats.house.gov/ne … hotel-take

He screwed you to enrich himself

You voted him back in

I'll leave others to decide the logic in tat

An interesting thought.

The US is commonly many years behind the rest i=of the world, and it looks as if Trump's likely push to oil could be another epic mistake.

Solar and other renewables are getting cheaper and, in many places, part renewable/part grid is getting very popular.

I've been looking at 'balcony solar' in Germany. It seems it's a bit of a thing as it reduces electricy usage at a very low cost.

I installed a 100W system as a roof of concept - it worked very nicely.

The space I needed to generate 100w a few years ago isenough to generate 500w today,  and at only double the price.

It was cheap before, but it's b=not only very cheap now, a two panel system will run an AC and charg the EV bikes for free. There's easily enough spare  to run all our small electronics and house lighting.

As renewables take over, oil prices will tunble. With the way things are going, Saudi 2030 looks like a very sensible policy.

Oil is on the fall, but Trump is relying on it to run a country and ruin others.

He might well be in for a shock.

Sorry Fred but 1 or 2 x 100 watt solar panels on the balcony? And will run the A/C and all the other crap you mentioned? Get real.

We have 11.4 Kw of panels on the roof and I well know the math, seems you have no idea and have never tried and only offer hyperbole.

Aside I think that now Trump will be the 47th president all the childish bickering should be put to bed and not suitable for this site.

OMO.

Cheers, Steve.

Sorry Fred but 1 or 2 x 100 watt solar panels on the balcony? And will run the A/C and all the other crap you mentioned? Get real.
We have 11.4 Kw of panels on the roof and I well know the math, seems you have no idea and have never tried and only offer hyperbole.
Aside I think that now Trump will be the 47th president all the childish bickering should be put to bed and not suitable for this site.
OMO.

Cheers, Steve. - @bigpearl

I see you have reading comprehension issues. The 100w panels then are the same size as 550wp panels today.

That's a >1kw peak running a 400 w peak AC.

El oh el, China just removed tax benefits for Aluminum exports and Aluminum prices skyrocketed 8.5% overnight.  Prices are going up! Trumpflation is starting even before he's in office.

You get what you vote for.

El oh el, China just removed tax benefits for Aluminum exports and Aluminum prices skyrocketed 8.5% overnight. Prices are going up! Trumpflation is starting even before he's in office.
You get what you vote for. - @Larry Fisher

Hmmm...China essentially cannot afford to subsidize its exports given its economic difficulties. It is understandable but has nothing to do with possible US tariffs. China is not a big player in aluminum as an exported commodity as the chart below shows. I don't imagine their increase of taxes on Aluminum will sustain a long term effect. None of what I read characterized this tax increase as a reaction to Trump's election whise tariffs would benefit the US treasury:

Top Aluminum Exporters by Country

Below are the 15 countries that exported the highest dollar value worth of aluminum during 2023.

Canada: US$8.1 billion (11.4% of total aluminum exports)

Russia: $7.44 billion (10.5%)

United Arab Emirates: $6.6 billion (9.3%)

India: $4.8 billion (6.7%)

Malaysia: $4.4 billion (6.1%)

Norway: $3.7 billion (5.2%)

Australia: $3.5 billion (5%)

Bahrain: $3 billion (4.3%)

Netherlands: $2.15 billion (3%)

Iceland: $2.09 billion (2.9%)

Qatar: $1.7 billion (2.4%)

United States: $1.66 billion (2.3%)

South Africa: $1.58 billion (2.2%)

Italy: $1.53 billion (2.2%)

Germany: $1.4 billion (2%)

By value, the listed 15 countries shipped 75.5% of global aluminum exported in 2023.

I don't see China listed as a big player. US is listed. Perhaps USA will now consume more domestic production.

Larry Fisher said the Sky is Falling. . . .El oh el, China just removed tax benefits for Aluminum exports and Aluminum prices skyrocketed 8.5% overnight. Prices are going up! Trumpflation is starting even before he's in office.You get what you vote for.

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Another example of Deranged Trump Syndrome by this OP.

China removed the Export Tax Rebate, in language easy to understand, that refers to the refunding of the Value Added Tax which was paid for by the exporter.

The refunding of the VAT to the exporter meant China was subsidizing the exporter to sell the Aluminum below cost.

Now this hurts China because the rise in their price will increase sales of other aluminum producing countries.

Aluminum is made from bauxite, it takes four tons of bauxite to make one ton of aluminum.

Largest producer of bauxite

(1) Australia 98 million tons

(2) Guinea 97 million tons

(3) China 93 million tons

Although Australia is the largest producer of bauxite but due to the high cost of electricity for their smelters they cannot compete.

Canada was the leading supplier of aluminum to the US.

So OP, what does this have anything to do with Trump?

Sorry Fred but 1 or 2 x 100 watt solar panels on the balcony? And will run the A/C and all the other crap you mentioned? Get real.
We have 11.4 Kw of panels on the roof and I well know the math, seems you have no idea and have never tried and only offer hyperbole.
Aside I think that now Trump will be the 47th president all the childish bickering should be put to bed and not suitable for this site.
OMO.

Cheers, Steve.  - @bigpearl
I see you have reading comprehension issues. The 100w panels then are the same size as 550wp panels today.
That's a >1kw peak running a 400 w peak AC. - @Fred

I beg to differ Fred but you clearly stated 100 watt panels and now you are saying those panels output is rated @ 550 watts, and they might just run what you mentioned but only for 3 to 4 hours. This is the wrong topic to argue on solar hypotheticals, all I can say is I have had stand alone and grid tied systems for 30 years and fully understand their capabilities.

Cheers, Steve.

El oh el, China just removed tax benefits for Aluminum exports and Aluminum prices skyrocketed 8.5% overnight. Prices are going up! Trumpflation is starting even before he's in office.
You get what you vote for. - @Larry Fisher
Hmmm...China essentially cannot afford to subsidize its exports given its economic difficulties. It is understandable but has nothing to do with possible US tariffs. China is not a big player in aluminum as an exported commodity as the chart below shows. I don't imagine their increase of taxes on Aluminum will sustain a long term effect. None of what I read characterized this tax increase as a reaction to Trump's election whise tariffs would benefit the US treasury:
Top Aluminum Exporters by Country
Below are the 15 countries that exported the highest dollar value worth of aluminum during 2023.

Canada: US$8.1 billion (11.4% of total aluminum exports)
Russia: $7.44 billion (10.5%)
United Arab Emirates: $6.6 billion (9.3%)
India: $4.8 billion (6.7%)
Malaysia: $4.4 billion (6.1%)
Norway: $3.7 billion (5.2%)
Australia: $3.5 billion (5%)
Bahrain: $3 billion (4.3%)
Netherlands: $2.15 billion (3%)
Iceland: $2.09 billion (2.9%)
Qatar: $1.7 billion (2.4%)
United States: $1.66 billion (2.3%)
South Africa: $1.58 billion (2.2%)
Italy: $1.53 billion (2.2%)
Germany: $1.4 billion (2%)
By value, the listed 15 countries shipped 75.5% of global aluminum exported in 2023.

I don't see China listed as a big player. US is listed. Perhaps USA will now consume more domestic production. - @danfinn

or

https://oec.world/en/profile/bilateral- … porter/chn

Exports In 2022, China exported $42.5B in Aluminum articles, making it the 1st largest exporter of Aluminum articles in the world. At the same year, Aluminum articles was the 15th most exported product in China. The main destination of Aluminum articles exports from China are: United States ($4.45B), Mexico ($2.83B), Japan ($2.26B), South Korea ($2.16B), and Vietnam ($1.98B).

The fastest growing export markets for Aluminum articles of China between 2021 and 2022 were Mexico ($899M), South Korea ($530M), and Vietnam ($525M

I've seen this before. Sites with an interest in any given political position miss out critical information with the hope their readers are too dumb to see the lie by omission

@Fred

I've seen this before. Sites with an interest in any given political position miss out critical information with the hope their readers are too dumb to see the lie by omission

That really tells us a lot. Aluminum "articles". The tax rebate is on aluminum, copper, battery materials and even cooking oil. It was basically a governmentsubsidy on exports of Chinese products. The two of you are trying to say that this end of government subsidy is in reaction to Trump being elected but guess what:

You just made that up!

But you know, it is always good for the world economy when governments stop subsidies of their industries so they can sell below cost.

You are both trying ti stretch facts to turn this into some catastrophe that the economy will now crash becsuse US voters chose a leader you don't like.

Actually this thread is so ridiculous that I expect even you are embarrassed to continue defending it based on aluminum "articles" lol...

I guess I should have entitled the original post "Consequences of Elon Musk as President" because I firmly believe that Donald Trump only ran for re-election to stay out of jail and he will now spend the next four years playing golf while Elon Musk runs the USA  and deals with Trump's enemies.

@FindlayMacD

and he (Trump) will now spend the next four years playing golf.

Nailed it Findlay. What many contributors to this ongoing (but highly relevant thread) do not realise is that Trump is anything but a 'details' guy. He gets bored very quickly. He wants the showbiz Hollywood glamour of being the centre of attention on the world stage with his pudgy little finger on the X button everyday with Musk sniggering in the background.

For the benefit of our American readers who make up a majority on this Forum its not about Brits meddling and speaking out of turn on US politics. No its the man stupid. Not the Republican or Democrat party partisan thing.

A highly respected veteran Republican John Bolton who served as National Security advisor in Trumps first administration was interviewed on BBC television a few weeks before the election. His verdict on Trump as an individual, not a politician was damning.

Now that Trump has control of both houses in Congress he effectively has free reign. There is no counter balance. Throw in his age and (as with Biden) his decline in cognisant thinking over the next 4 years and world politics has potentially a perfect storm brewing.

@Fred
I've seen this before. Sites with an interest in any given political position miss out critical information with the hope their readers are too dumb to see the lie by omission
That really tells us a lot. Aluminum "articles". The tax rebate is on aluminum, copper, battery materials and even cooking oil. It was basically a governmentsubsidy on exports of Chinese products. The two of you are trying to say that this end of government subsidy is in reaction to Trump being elected but guess what:

You just made that up!

But you know, it is always good for the world economy when governments stop subsidies of their industries so they can sell below cost.

You are both trying ti stretch facts to turn this into some catastrophe that the economy will now crash becsuse US voters chose a leader you don't like.

Actually this thread is so ridiculous that I expect even you are embarrassed to continue defending it based on aluminum "articles" lol... - @danfinn

https://subsidytracker.goodjobsfirst.or … y-davidson

Like HD?

Or is it only bad when other people do it?

"its not about Brits meddling and speaking out of turn on US politics". - @Lotus Eater

Trump has picked Robert F. Kennedy Jr to run the health dept, a guy like that in charge of health can end up affecting not just the UK but many other countries in the World, when American citizens start to refuse vaccinations and eventually export those many diseases that were under control around the world as they travel.

I guess I should have entitled the original post "Consequences of Elon Musk as President" because I firmly believe that Donald Trump only ran for re-election to stay out of jail and he will now spend the next four years playing golf while Elon Musk runs the USA and deals with Trump's enemies. - @FindlayMacD

Another Great political analysis on expat forum. For sure, world leaders are reading this. Who would have thought? 😆

January 20th, 2025 will be a great day for America, 73 Million people will be celebrating. President Trump received more votes than any other President in the history of America.

Of course millions of disgruntled voters and foreigners, including some on this forum will be complaining for the next four years.

On January 20th the first thing President Trump promised to do is dismantle the  87,000 planned IRS agents Biden wanted.

Then Trump will be hiring 87,000 psychiatrists to handle the people suffering from the Trump Derangement Syndrome .

Trump will be hiring the renown Dr. Anthony Fauci to head up this program.

To Fred and the other Libs “Trump Derangement Syndrome” may not be cureable at least for the next 4 years, hopefully longer. I feel sorry for you guys, especially the Non Americans still obsessed with him.  I would have no issue with Elon Musk running the government. The guy has been successful just about every venture that he’s gotten into. I am currently having a solar company install a 12kw  system in my house complete with 19 520 solar panels and 30kw battery backup.  I cannot understand how a so called balcony solar system could run a household

That's nice to hear Morgacj, helping yourself as well as the planet.

Cheers, Steve.

I just wonder, how do all the extremist MAGA guys on here feel about Trump's cabinet picks so far, personally I think he made a big mistake choosing Marco Rubio as Secretary of State, that is a far too sensible an appointment. Although he is an extreme right winger and a danger to America, he doesn't really fit in with the rest of the other crazies he has chosen to run his government. I think Elon Musk is going to have trouble keeping all of these nutters in line while Donald J. is spending his time on the golf course. Looking seriously at the rest of his cabinet picks I don't think I would have been really shocked if he had chosen Donald Duck as Secretary of State. Hahahaha.

Regardless Findlay the people have made their bed and now have to sleep in it, as I keep saying let it run its course and come back to this in a few years.

OMO.

Cheers, Steve.

@FindlayMacD
and he (Trump) will now spend the next four years playing golf.
Nailed it Findlay. What many contributors to this ongoing (but highly relevant thread) do not realise is that Trump is anything but a 'details' guy. He gets bored very quickly. He wants the showbiz Hollywood glamour of being the centre of attention on the world stage with his pudgy little finger on the X button everyday with Musk sniggering in the background.

For the benefit of our American readers who make up a majority on this Forum its not about Brits meddling and speaking out of turn on US politics. No its the man stupid. Not the Republican or Democrat party partisan thing.
A highly respected veteran Republican John Bolton who served as National Security advisor in Trumps first administration was interviewed on BBC television a few weeks before the election. His verdict on Trump as an individual, not a politician was damning.
Now that Trump has control of both houses in Congress he effectively has free reign. There is no counter balance. Throw in his age and (as with Biden) his decline in cognisant thinking over the next 4 years and world politics has potentially a perfect storm brewing. - @Lotus Eater

OMG, "nailed it". 😄 Such expert political analysis that the world has never seen. Trump will play golf while Elon Mush acts as president. 😄 Good one. Sorry Steve, yes sarcasm is the lowest firm of wit but sometimes there is no good alternative response lol.

Each to their own Dan, enjoy the next 4 years.

Cheers, Steve.

By using the term "consequences," I can already guess where the OP is leaning towards.

Let's see . . . What are the consequences of Trump as President?

To the blokes who identify as women, and enter women's lockers, spas, and dressing rooms naked in the name of equality, putting a chokehold on women's voices if they complain about it: they can't satisfy their perversion anymore.

To the sex offenders who identify as women, demanding they be placed in women's prisons even when they have full eggplants hanging and then impregnate their female inmates: they'll be locked up with the men no matter what they identify as. (I doubt they can impregnate anyone there.)

To male athletes who identify as women, who take women's trophies, accolades, and scholarships, claiming they are entitled to them because they are women and whoever doesn't agree to that is a bigot: they'll be put back in category where they can't cheat -- the men's losers circle   

These are the consequences for perverts and cheaters who take advantage of women.

Golly where did that come from?

Cheers, Steve.

Golly where did that come from?
Cheers, Steve. - @bigpearl

From a mom with a 14-year old daughter who's a biologically female athlete.

I simply thought it was off topic though you obviously think it's important enough to raise here. I am a father also of 2 fine adult kids and neither they nor I had to worry about the issues you raised in Australia, maybe it's an American thing? Regardless nice you care about your children and their future.

Cheers, Steve.

bigpearl said. . . Regardless Findlay the people have made their bed and now have to sleep in it, as I keep saying let it run its course and come back to this in a few years.

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Yes it king size bed very comfy, I will sleep well, does anyone have the webpage for the "My Pillow Guy"? I need new pillows.

MSGA Make Sleep Great Again

bigpearl said to FilAmerican Mom. . . . I simply thought it was off topic though you obviously think it's important enough to raise here. I am a father also of 2 fine adult kids and neither they nor I had to worry about the issues you raised in Australia, maybe it's an American thing? Regardless nice you care about your children and their future.
Cheers, Steve.

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What washroom do you or your partner use?

FindlayMacD said . . . . I just wonder, how do all the extremist MAGA guys on here feel about Trump's cabinet picks so far,

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You think that's bad, checkout Biden appointee Sam Brinton. Google Brinton's picture. Brinton was arrested three times stealing luggage at the airport and caught wear women's clothing from the stolen luggage.

We have a choice of 5 bathrooms here Bob but we generally use the Ensuite like you do, should we label all the bathrooms? Small minded rings a bell.

Cheers, Steve.

bigpearl said. . . . We have a choice of 5 bathrooms here Bob but we generally use the Ensuite like you do, should we label all the bathrooms? Small minded rings a bell.

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Maybe I should clarify my question. When you and your partner are out and about (not at home) and use public washrooms,

(1) which one do you use?

(2) which one does your partner use?

@bigpearl

If I recall Steve I think Bob likes to use the shower at the upper floor of his house because the hot water heater works.

I simply thought it was off topic though you obviously think it's important enough to raise here. I am a father also of 2 fine adult kids and neither they nor I had to worry about the issues you raised in Australia, maybe it's an American thing? Regardless nice you care about your children and their future.
Cheers, Steve. - @bigpearl

It's not off-topic. It was what Trump and Vance were fighting for. No to biological men (unless they've fully transitioned) in women's spaces. No to biological men competing in women's sports. No to biologically male inmates in women's prisons.

I have nothing against transmen or transwomen. What I'm against is when a biological man cheats and abuses women by identifying as a woman, and women are prevented to say anything against it.

@danfinn

Such expert political analysis that the world has never seen

There you go again Dan contradicting yourself. How can an 'expert' have as low an IQ as I do?

Bob maybe you should clarify your brain and try to stay on topic, wandering off like a lost sheep is not a good look.

Cheers, Steve.