TV programs

Hi,

I have UPC and there is possibility to change the language to some channels, you just need to choose which package you want.

I am not really looking for changing the language, but more to select channels I want from Europe, but thanks!

Try signing up for a French proxy VPN server and then streaming the French channels to your PC. This would be the cheapest way. You can also pay to have a Sky salellite dish installed, but I believe you will need to register the card to a french address...

Try ukivpn.com and then use the online Sky player go.sky.com/vod/page/default/home.do

I didn't understand everything there, but i'm going to try for sure! Thanks !

l didn't enjoy watching cable tv in Budapest, no English speaking channels.

we are with T mobile home and get a few channels in English  such as BBC Entertainment where we can watch Eastenders, casualty, Dr Who, Weakest Link etc.

Chancer wrote:

Try signing up for a French proxy VPN server and then streaming the French channels to your PC. This would be the cheapest way. You can also pay to have a Sky salellite dish installed, but I believe you will need to register the card to a french address...

Try ukivpn.com and then use the online Sky player go.sky.com/vod/page/default/home.do

You can also also use the BBC Iplayer if you go via a UK VPN. The same applies for other services from the USA. You need to defeat the geo location they use.

The other alternative is to downloads - not entirely sure on the legality of that.

Regarding Sky, you need a pretty big dish to get UK (or Irish) Sky TV and a UK (or Irish) address (also possibly illegal but I've seen estimates of 500K+ expats people doing the same across Europe). Various individuals previously reported 3m+ for a decent signal. That's probably conservative and you can get away with a smaller dish. However, the only way to find out is to try it (expensive!). This has pretty much been superseded by selective downloading.  You can see much at Astra2d Sky TV. For a 3m dish, you will need space. The decoder you can get on Ebay easily enough. The Irish person should be able to subscribe and get the card at the home address back there.

If you watch online streaming, if you have a big flat TV with HDMI, you can connect your PC directly to it (assuming it has HDMI or you can get an adaptor), then use it as a monitor for streaming TV. I do this and it works very well.

fluffy2560 wrote:

The other alternative is to downloads - not entirely sure on the legality of that.

Hungarian law is quite specific:
Making copies for personal use of any otherwise licensed/copyrighted material is paid for by the special levy on all computer storage media. (the holographic stickers you see on blank DVDs and such.)

How good a job the association of Hungarian pop-musicians does in forwarding your payments to the BBC is someone else's problem.

It's also a good question what law applies to British citizens downloading BBC content from presumably British servers or peers over the Internet, while they are physically in Hungary :-)

szocske wrote:

Hungarian law is quite specific:
Making copies for personal use of any otherwise licensed/copyrighted material is paid for by the special levy on all computer storage media. (the holographic stickers you see on blank DVDs and such.)

Well, that's a winner then. Who buys DVDs any more? And if you buy them, where from? I don't buy mine in Hungary for sure.

szocske wrote:

How good a job the association of Hungarian pop-musicians does in forwarding your payments to the BBC is someone else's problem.

I expect they don't do that at all as there's no way to police it.

szocske wrote:

It's also a good question what law applies to British citizens downloading BBC content from presumably British servers or peers over the Internet, while they are physically in Hungary :-)

I presume it doesn't say anything, any law pre-dates this kind of approach and is only aimed at copyright infringements. The was a recent EU court case on football reception in the EU from providers outside the UK (Greece) and the person won on the grounds that the restrictions rights holders placed on their outputs were against the free movement of goods/trade.   

I expect most viewers just don't care about the law, and will do anything they want to get around all this nonsense. It's mass disobedience on a world wide scale.

fluffy2560 wrote:

I expect most viewers just don't care about the law, and will do anything they want to get around all this nonsense. It's mass disobedience on a world wide scale.

That's the spirit! :-)

But if it does not work out, you and I are going to rot together in a Hollywood forced labor camp. At least we won't be bored, with Lawrence Lessig to keep us company :-)

Have I told you my theory on how automated production is shifting the material world into the same false-scarcity model we have with entertainment and knowledge already? That the number of people genuinely interested in each filed, who would do it for the fun of it even if their livelihood did not depend on it, should be enough in most areas that actually matter? (ok, maybe not in garbage collection and toilet scrubbing just yet, but enough people would love to get on automating those too...)

szocske wrote:

Making copies for personal use of any otherwise licensed/copyrighted material is paid for by the special levy on all computer storage media.

In principle international law can trump local and even EU law.

From: http://www.twobirds.com/English/News/Ar … urope.aspx

"Under international copyright conventions, it is clear that the individual exploitation of copyright protected works by licences granted by rights holders has, in principle, priority over statutory exemptions and levy compensations. It cannot be stressed enough that the often-quoted “right to make private copies” simply does not exist."

fluffy2560 wrote:

Well, that's a winner then. Who buys DVDs any more?

Not quite. It varies by country and can include USB drives, hard drives, iPods, even cell phones. And the levies vary by country. The UK, however last time I checked, has no levies.

klsallee wrote:

fluffy2560 wrote:

Well, that's a winner then. Who buys DVDs any more?

Not quite. It varies by country and can include USB drives, hard drives, iPods, even cell phones. And the levies vary by country. The UK, however last time I checked, has no levies.

It's true, there's no levy there in the UK on this kind of media. For HU, it's easy to avoid and an old fashioned solution. Just buy your blank DVDs in another country. In Austria they have a levy on satellite receivers. That is of course an anachronism because as far as I know, it does not apply to terrestrial digital receivers.  Case of the politics not keeping up with the technology.

But what I really meant was that everyone is downloading and keeping content on their PCs/disks, like iTunes (but regardless of paid or unpaid). I expect sales of blank DVDs have plummeted. And of course, all these other media carriers (usb sticks, hard drives, dvds etc) have other uses, not just for copying copyrighted materials.

So, if I want to store MY data on a DVD, I have to pay a levy to someone else unconnected to my own data.

Stupid law or what!