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moving to beijing, absolutely clueless!

Last activity 13 April 2012 by Manlin

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heggie

hello, firstly i would like to appologise as i am sure this has been discussed hundreds of times in the forums, as the subject suggests, i am clueless.

my partner was just offered a very terrific job opportunity in Beijing with great career benefits working for disney.

now this is a real option and she could be expected to fly out as soon as June, the company has said it would not be an issue for me to get a working holiday visa and easily find work in the city as a westerner.

after doing some research i found that china currently doesn't have any arrangements with any country's for working holiday visas.

so my questions are, what are my options to be able to live in china and work for as long as needed.

i have looked in to the types of visa's but in all honesty, be it through panic or stupidity, i dont understand the stay limitations.

my partner is contacting the company for assistance, but i would truly appreciate the knowledge of this fine website in this matter.

my information is simple, i'm 24 year old male and an artist by trade (illustrator, painter, tattoo artist) no knowledge of living abroad (i've never been on a plane) but the company my partner is with will provide us with chinese tuition.

so effectively, i'm asking,

what can i do?

what visa can i get?

how easy is it to take my dog?

can i get a holiday visa, find a place that will employ me THEN apply for a working visa through them?

thank you very much for your assistance, again, im sorry if this is all just a long boring post that has been seen hundreds of times before, i am just utterly clueless about the whole situation and my options.

many thanks (Xie xie)

Manlin

Disney or Disney English?

Sounds like you are clever enough to have done your own research.

You can only legally work in China if you have a valid work visa.

If your partner has a work visa great - but you can only get a dependants visa if you are married.  You cannot legally work on a dependant's visa.

Yes of course you can come on a toursts visa to look for work. Your employer will need to arrange the paperwork and you will have to leave the country and re-enter,

Your dog will need to have various jabs prior to arrival and will have to be quarantined.  I suggest you check the ICVS website for info on importing a dog.   http://www.icvsasia.com/   Only dogs under 35cm floor to shoulder are permitted to live in downton Beijing (inside 5th Ring Road).

So the easiet solution is for the two of you to get married and you could come as her dependent.

heggie

Thank you very much for your reply, and assuming I would be intelligent enough to understand, unfortunately bureaucratic information just goes straight over my head.

It is working with Disney English, do you know of any experiences with the company?

Thanks again

Manlin

I think Disney English is only marginally a part of the Disney Corp. It's like saying that the local Disney toy shop is Disney.

I know of a couple of people in Beijing working for Disney English but do not know them personally. I can try and ask for you.

I did find this Shanghai thread which was not particualrly positive  http://www.shanghaiexpat.com/phpbbforum … 10339.html

However, it seems to be a while since the last post so maybe things have improved.

heggie

Yes there isn't a huge amount of details regarding working for Disney English at the moment,

What the contract offers and the perks suggest seem terrific (and far better than the person moans about in shanghai)

I was also curious to know, is there any part of Beijing you would strongly recommend avoiding for any reason?

I really can't thank you enough for your information and knowledge, we are talking to the bosses tomorrow morning with a lot more questions and will hopefully know tomorrow where we will be in 3 months.

Thanks again.

Manlin

When taling with the bosses I would suggest to make sure that your are BOTH covered with medcial insurance. Plane tickets for both of you, adequate allowance / provision for shipment of personal possessions, housing allownace and of course salary.

You can live local style very cheaply.

However, if you want to be able to consume imported products and eat in foreign style restaurants prices very quickly start rocketing. 

Example, for lunch I normally go to a local restaurant and pay 10RMB (that's 1GBP). For that I get a big bowl of noodles with beef. The night before last my wife and I went to one of the less expensive foreign style restaurants (Tex-Mex)and we paid 255RMB for two people (no alcholol consumed), the better restaurants you can pay that for one main course.

Re area - try to be in reasonable commute time from the school and, assuming you will be using public transprt, close to a subway (tube) station.  Beware though rush hour is rush hour and the trains get packed. Ideally, in the warmer months think about cycling to work.

heggie

its safe to assume then that places designed to attract tourists will be more pricey. but yes, what we have read and seen, the cost of living does seem to be quite a lot cheaper for the most part.

obviously taking this in to account when deciding what to actually ship over and what to just leave behind.

our main concern at the moment is me finding work out there, i have worked as a freelance artist, illustrator and designer for many years and have no experience of company's based in beijing.

just facing the long, arduous task of gaining knowledge on my options out there.

Manlin

Do you also have experience with web design?

heggie

Unfortunately no, but I have several friends who are web designers so could happily learn the fundamentals if it's something that you think would aid in my job search.

Manlin

I shot an arrow in the air,
It fell to earth I know not where,

Get as many arrows a possible into your quiver;  shoot them all and if necessary move the target so that at least one hits the bullseye.

Yes there is often a market for (part-time / freelance) web design work but unless you are very lucky it will not solve the visa issue.

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