Doctor's salary

mshaqal wrote:

Hi gys I got a job as a  doctor in Jeddah salary 40000/month and housing is it good?I live in USA but Arabic in origin.
Thank you

That is roughly USD 130K a year - is that not good enough for you?

I Suppose it's a great offer u got!! don't you think?

Yea, its a great offer but depends on your profile and experience.

People here even make more than that.. but this 40k excluding housing will help you maintaining a good life style, trips and savings too.

Thanks gys,the job is consultant internal medicine ,is this the usual salary for doctors of that level? what you mean "People here even make more than that"?

mshaqal wrote:

Thanks gys,the job is consultant internal medicine ,is this the usual salary for doctors of that level? what you mean "People here even make more than that"?

I mean the salaries in Kingdom varies depending on your qualification, nationality and passport.
I am not a doctor, so wrt salaries I cannot comment.

Let's wait to hear from someone of your profession.

Hello mshaqal.

A new thread has been created from your message on the Jeddah forum.

Thank you,
Aurélie

you must be hired as either a specialist surgen or like the chief of some surgical department because even the good surgeons i know out here dont make 1/4 of that!! so make sure they didnt type in an extra 0 in their "offer"

a surgeon that only makes the salary of a mcdonalds manager?


they must suck.

i make half that a year as a mechanic

This is a good offer. what type of hospital is it, MOH, private,Military or National guard.

I think it is very good offer as some asian young doctors are getting SR 6000 pm.Some doctors working at clinics are getting that might be even less+++Goodluck and don,t mis this opportunity if u like to work in KSA+++

Thank you how is work conditions in general and in hospitals if I can ask ?

mshaqal wrote:

Thank you how is work conditions in general and in hospitals if I can ask ?

Depends on which type of hospital you will be working. National guard, military and regional centres have better working and professional environment

I believe this salary is within the normal limits for Internal Medicine. Where is your degree from, meaning from which country?

My husband has been negotiating his salary for a little while now with many hospitals in both Jeddah and Riyadh. We decided on King Faisal in Jeddah in another field (specialist field). I am just mentioning because I've been seeing the package offerings come through and can tell what's normal.

Other benefits they should provide include, housing allowance or free compound living, airline tickets to home country, paid vacation, children school fees paid (usually around 20,000 SR or so per year each child), compound transport or small transport allowance, paid educational leave, etc.  In addition, they should offer you a yearly bonus, which may be given immediately or every year after the initial 2 years contract is finished.

myyams wrote:

I believe this salary is within the normal limits for Internal Medicine. Where is your degree from, meaning from which country?

My husband has been negotiating his salary for a little while now with many hospitals in both Jeddah and Riyadh. We decided on King Faisal in Jeddah in another field (specialist field). I am just mentioning because I've been seeing the package offerings come through and can tell what's normal.

Other benefits they should provide include, housing allowance or free compound living, airline tickets to home country, paid vacation, children school fees paid (usually around 20,000 SR or so per year each child), compound transport or small transport allowance, paid educational leave, etc.  In addition, they should offer you a yearly bonus, which may be given immediately or every year after the initial 2 years contract is finished.

King Faisal specialist hospital pay scales are more generous then most other hospitals in KSA.

I've been told by some they offer less salary and by some they offer more.  My husband is getting better salary at King Fahd but they only cover three children's expenses (school, tickets, etc) and we are soon to have five. King Faisal covers four children's business class tickets, education, etc.  So we were told to cover the fifth child they give cash then we can buy our own economy tickets or foot the bill for the extra business class ticket. Then for education, they give 22K per year and the schools arrange their fee structure to meet their guidelines so that we have all of their expenses met.  My husband was getting 15000 SR more at King Fahd, but all in all it wasn't as good of a hospital as King Faisal.  We had to really break everything down. I'm not sure salary wise though K. Faisal pays more. But overall I think they offer a better package.

In Riyadh the pay even for some military hospitals were much more than King Faisal. But we preferred to live in Jeddah.

It takes persistence in negotiating pay for sure...a giant headache. 

What we've been told from people working in King Faisal is to make sure you're happy with the salary you agree on because the yearly 15% increase has been halted.  I am not sure what that means though because in the contract my husband gets a bonus each year equal to his salary, so like 14 pay checks per year. We were also told if my husband were to leave at some point solely due to salary (which doesn't get further negotiated even after expiration of contract) then they wouldn't hire him back. But if he left for some other normal reason then they would hire back. This person was stressing how important it is to get what you will be happy with long term.

this is funny because if a qualified non-american would happen to get a job (LEGALLY) in america, and if he demanded things like "free housing, tuition for his kids, ticket back home each year...." they would just laugh at the poor guy!

i DONT ask for all that from my company because i can afford it on my grossly overpaid salary. which you should be able to afford too with your SR 40,000 a month "normal" salary.

its funny because the guy who went out to america and gets a job, he is actually the one who cant afford it so instead of laughing at him, help the poor guy out!

i believe, that you shouldnt take if you can afford it. because many people out there cant afford it and still have to pay it out of their own pockets.

I am not sure what you mean really. Physician salary in the U.S. is much more than the 40K SR. It is even more than the 40K SR plus the extra benefits. This is whether you are white, black, brown, etc. Depending on the field, there is really a tremendous difference, as well depending on the city.

ETA, I really find your post confusing, not mean or anything, but I just can't understand what you mean.

Anyway, when I said normal..yes that is a normal salary. You have to be careful and negotiate salary in KSA because it can really wildly vary! He will feel jipped if he goes to work and on the first day he arrives he learns a colleague doing his same job is earning much more. This is why people try to find out what is normal.

thats hilarious that you dont even know that alot of young residents physicians (ASIAN QUALIFIED) who go to USA after doing USMLE get JOBS in best hospitals all over US that too with all the said benefits. my brother is working in bufalo and other in alabama and they all get same benefits like kids tution fess and free housing etc.. may be you dont even know alot of docs in your own home land. so stop laughing atleast on others. please!

borntobemild wrote:

this is funny because if a qualified non-american would happen to get a job (LEGALLY) in america, and if he demanded things like "free housing, tuition for his kids, ticket back home each year...." they would just laugh at the poor guy!

i DONT ask for all that from my company because i can afford it on my grossly overpaid salary. which you should be able to afford too with your SR 40,000 a month "normal" salary.

its funny because the guy who went out to america and gets a job, he is actually the one who cant afford it so instead of laughing at him, help the poor guy out!

i believe, that you shouldnt take if you can afford it. because many people out there cant afford it and still have to pay it out of their own pockets.

borntobemild wrote:

this is funny because if a qualified non-american would happen to get a job (LEGALLY) in america, and if he demanded things like "free housing, tuition for his kids, ticket back home each year...." they would just laugh at the poor guy!

i DONT ask for all that from my company because i can afford it on my grossly overpaid salary. which you should be able to afford too with your SR 40,000 a month "normal" salary.

its funny because the guy who went out to america and gets a job, he is actually the one who cant afford it so instead of laughing at him, help the poor guy out!

i believe, that you shouldnt take if you can afford it. because many people out there cant afford it and still have to pay it out of their own pockets.

well, with the obama pic

you must like handing out money right? i could use some. hook it up

Freshlikesushi wrote:

borntobemild wrote:

this is funny because if a qualified non-american would happen to get a job (LEGALLY) in america, and if he demanded things like "free housing, tuition for his kids, ticket back home each year...." they would just laugh at the poor guy!

i DONT ask for all that from my company because i can afford it on my grossly overpaid salary. which you should be able to afford too with your SR 40,000 a month "normal" salary.

its funny because the guy who went out to america and gets a job, he is actually the one who cant afford it so instead of laughing at him, help the poor guy out!

i believe, that you shouldnt take if you can afford it. because many people out there cant afford it and still have to pay it out of their own pockets.

well, with the obama pic

you must like handing out money right? i could use some. hook it up

Guys, was that one the question! Do not work!

DrHassanMalik wrote:

thats hilarious that you dont even know that alot of young residents physicians (ASIAN QUALIFIED) who go to USA after doing USMLE get JOBS in best hospitals all over US that too with all the said benefits. my brother is working in bufalo and other in alabama and they all get same benefits like kids tution fess and free housing etc.. may be you dont even know alot of docs in your own home land. so stop laughing atleast on others. please!

borntobemild wrote:

this is funny because if a qualified non-american would happen to get a job (LEGALLY) in america, and if he demanded things like "free housing, tuition for his kids, ticket back home each year...." they would just laugh at the poor guy!

i DONT ask for all that from my company because i can afford it on my grossly overpaid salary. which you should be able to afford too with your SR 40,000 a month "normal" salary.

its funny because the guy who went out to america and gets a job, he is actually the one who cant afford it so instead of laughing at him, help the poor guy out!

i believe, that you shouldnt take if you can afford it. because many people out there cant afford it and still have to pay it out of their own pockets.

DrHassanMalik said,

"thats hilarious that you dont even know that alot of young residents physicians (ASIAN QUALIFIED) who go to USA after doing USMLE get JOBS in best hospitals all over US that too with all the said benefits."

No dear Doctor, this is not the way it works.

After talking USMLE, steps 1->4, then applying for residency, then when and (if) they get a residency, there is a salary associated with the residency... and it does not change much, from year to year, and it is usually well on (down) below 100K, and no they do not buy plane tickets and give free tuition to children. This is laughable.  The residencies Internal Medicine and Family Practice, is where these already (working doctors) go, to [re-train] as (residents) for the next (three) years. THEY ARE NOT Licensed Physicians, THEY ARE RESIDENTS, they have to stay there in the training hospital, and [retrain]... for the next three years right along with other medical residents. Some go into Asian dominated residency programs, where there isn't a single American resident in training, and it shows.... But the bottom line is the salaries are not high, cost of living is what's high... and there are little if any perks, sometimes there is not even free parking....

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Hey, sir I have don MD and Fcps in card, sir how mauch monthly salary for me in saudia.......sir plz must me reply on this no..0923028525150..plz , I am waiting

starts from SR35000/Month basic salary..

faisal ashar wrote:

Hey, sir I have don MD and Fcps in card, sir how mauch monthly salary for me in saudia.......sir plz must me reply on this no..0923028525150..plz , I am waiting

Good morning. I am a 14 years experience  pediatric cardiac surgeon, i was contacted by King Faisal cardiac center  in Jeddah and i am waiting for a Job offer. I would like to know about specialist salary in jeddah because i have no idea on what to expect.
Thanks a lot for your valuable advice.

your basic start from 35k to 45k monthly

Thanks. IT is my first time concerning to Saudi Arabia and i dont know how It works. They said me that i will receive an offer and i can negotiate it. IT is usual to negotiate salary or just benefits? I asume salary depends on a fixed scale. Or not? If you have Any advise concerning to the way to do this please let me know.
Thanks a lot

well if its a Govt job (MOH, MODA etc) then there is going to be a scale and nothing much can be negotiated in terms of salary.. The benefits you are already going to get for a family status but you may inquire about shifting allowance and kids tuition fee allowances etc if they are willing to give.. however if the job is of pvt sector then there is naturally a big scope for negotiations on salary and benefits both.. as far as I know king faisal cardiac center comes under MODA section MSD.. (Medical services division of Ministry of defence and aviation) and the scale is fixed. it might be 14 or 13th scale you will probably be getting and the offers are mostly good enough with no reason left for negotiation in MODA offers..

Woluve wrote:

Thanks. IT is my first time concerning to Saudi Arabia and i dont know how It works. They said me that i will receive an offer and i can negotiate it. IT is usual to negotiate salary or just benefits? I asume salary depends on a fixed scale. Or not? If you have Any advise concerning to the way to do this please let me know.
Thanks a lot

are you a fellow of royal college UK or a board certified ?

Woluve wrote:

Good morning. I am a 14 years experience  pediatric cardiac surgeon, i was contacted by King Faisal cardiac center  in Jeddah and i am waiting for a Job offer. I would like to know about specialist salary in jeddah because i have no idea on what to expect.
Thanks a lot for your valuable advice.

I went to europe university for my pediatric cardiac trainee

Hi guys.. i'm a newly graduated medical student and want to work as general practitioner.. anyone know the salary range for arabic general practitioners in private hospitals in jeddah ?

gov. jobs are amazing but no negotiations

Hi sir!
I have completed my mbbs and have 1 year of exp post mbbs.
My wife has completed MD Dermatology and she is a fresher.
We are a couple with no child.
Both are from India and we are offered a job of general practitioner and dermatologist at the salty of SR 8000 and SR 14000 per month respectively at Jubail, Saudi Arabia with 2 year contract.
This is in addition to accommodation,transportation, return flight ticket, yearly 30 days paid leave equivalent to respective salary.

Sir please guide me if this salary is good enough or not worth going for this.
Please reply as soon as possible.
Thank you!

Good morning dr. I am new in this too. I am negotiating a post in Jeddah and they offered to me 60.000 SAR per month.
I don't know how are contracts in other cities.
Keep in touch

Woluve wrote:

Good morning dr. I am new in this too. I am negotiating a post in Jeddah and they offered to me 60.000 SAR per month.
I don't know how are contracts in other cities.
Keep in touch

60,000 SAR is a good offer !

What position is it for ?

Consultants generally take 50,000 SAR above !

Dr. Sandy wrote:

Hi sir!
I have completed my mbbs and have 1 year of exp post mbbs.
My wife has completed MD Dermatology and she is a fresher.
We are a couple with no child.
Both are from India and we are offered a job of general practitioner and dermatologist at the salty of SR 8000 and SR 14000 per month respectively at Jubail, Saudi Arabia with 2 year contract.
This is in addition to accommodation,transportation, return flight ticket, yearly 30 days paid leave equivalent to respective salary.

Sir please guide me if this salary is good enough or not worth going for this.
Please reply as soon as possible.
Thank you!

For a GP that salary would be anything between 8000-9000 !
That is what GP's at Government hospitals get !

And for a dermatologist 14 K is fair enough

You both will be saving good money

I  am resident family physician working in qunfudah in primary health care ahad bani said( with moh ksa)I like to work in the main city of ksa due to school education of kids.may u have any vacancy in urs hospital & may u know any doctor who agree for mutual immigration from jeddah to qunfudah
With thanks
Dr.Nazia rizwan
drnaziarizwan@yahoo.com