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JoyceS

Hi, My name is Joyce.  My husband and I are planning to move to PR very soon.  The reason for our move is a buisness oppurtuinty. We are looking to open in San Juan or the surrounding area.  We have a 2 year old son. We are looking at homes in Dorado. I lived in Fajardo, PR as a child from 3 to 9.  I am excited to give my son the same experience.  My husband and I have visited 4 times in the past year and are 100% PR offers us an amazing oppurtuinty.  I do have a few questions.

- Is it difficult to open a new buisness in terms of getting a tax ID, registering corp name, getting insurances, workers comp and etc.

- Would it be best to hire an accountant/lawyer to get this process done? ( in a timely manner). In the Dominican we ran into some difficulity taking this route.  Can you reccomend anyone?

As far as our son my one condition on relocating is he attends private school. That said I have seen the previous threads and when we visit in April to firm up our plans I will be visiting some.

- Is it difficult to find a bi-lingual nanny and what is the typcial pay?

- As a child I traveled the island with my parents and sailed to all the surrounding Islands.  I want to give my son the same experience.  I will be doing some of this without my husband.  Do you have any pointers to making sure my son and I are safe in doing so?


Any other words of wisdom to offer?

Thank you!

GreggK

Others on this thread will be able to answer your technical questions better than I. The only thing I have to say is that it's doubtful your son will have the same experiences you did years ago. The island has changed considerably. But who knows, maybe you can pull it off. There are a lot of wonderful things to see and do there if you have the financial means. Best of luck in starting your new business. What is the business by the way? There may be people on this forum that would be able to give you specific advice.

NomadLawyer

Hi, Joyce.

I write about this for educational purposes only. It's not legal advice. If you need legal advice, I recommend Lic. Yuannie Arrollo Casillas in Ocean Park: 787-258-5566; licyac [at ] gmail.com. I've used her before and she's good.

To register an LLC or LLP (which are the company types I imagine you would want to use), you should register and pay online. This service wasn't available when I did my last incorporation so I'm not sure if it's reliable or not. Either way, you pay and you get a receipt so it would just be a matter of following up. Here is a link to the PR SOS Corporations Division: https://prcorpfiling.f1hst.com/Creation … lity.aspx.

If you're having problems using the online system, here is a link to the company organization forms that you can use to submit your paperwork the old-fashioned way:  http://www2.pr.gov/agencias/estado/Page … Corp.aspx. If you go this route, I would not mail-in your paperwork. Take it personally to the PR SOS. The Secretary of State's Corporations Division is in Old San Juan. Go early in the morning. When I lived there, you'd notice a short line forming before the office even opens. This was/is because the "public servants" would stop accepting applications for forming a business after an hour or so, or a set limit of applications (like 15 or something ridiculously low). I don't know if Fortuno's administration was able to stop that practice or not. If not, I hope the new administration deals with it.

You'll quickly notice one of the many ways the PR government treats business owners and entrepreneurs like a vampire treats its victims: When you submit your paperwork, you have to choose one of I believe are three payment options for them to process your Certificate of Incorporation. The cheapest is $160 or thereabouts for what is supposed to take a few weeks, the next cheapest, if I recall correctly, is approximately $400 for a quicker turn-around, and then I believe there is even a more expensive option for two day incorporation. It's a shake-down. If you only pay the $100, they could sit on your application for as long as seven months, so make sure you go down there again. Don't just call - it would be a miracle if anyone actually answered the phone but as you may know, in PR it's all about face-to-face interaction if you want anything to get done.

You need your Certificate of Organization if you want to set up a business bank account (this is thanks to the Patriot Act). You'll also need to have your municipal business license in order to set up the bank account. I think Banco Santander PR has a list of exactly what you'll need on their website.

In addition, don't forget to register on the Compulsory Business Registry by July 15 of each year. This is handled by the Puerto Rico Trade and Export Company.

I'm very pessimistic about business ventures in PR. The government disdains business owners and punishes them as much as possible. They're viewed as cash-cows, not as risky enterprises that should be encouraged. Puerto Rico is where many good small businesses go to die. Then again, I'm a commercial bankruptcy attorney so perhaps I've simply seen too many failures. Good luck.

Abattig

Hello Nomad,

I have an LLC incorporated company (partnership with boyfriend) for my gift shop here in Puerto Rico.  I didn't realize the tax deadline for companies was this Friday & am just now getting around to seeing an accountant; however, I think he's giving me the run around.

Is it possible to do my own tax return & if so, could I download the paperwork online? 

Thanks for any info!

Gary

It's possible but if you don't know all the in's and out's you're going to pay too much.

I'd never do this without a CPA.

(nitpicking here but a LLC is not the same as a (limited liability) partnership)

NomadLawyer

Hi, Abattig. It wouldn't be wise for me to advise you over the internet, especially concerning tax, but I can point out that Expat-Blog has a write-up on PR taxes (although it focuses on individual taxes and I give no opinion as to its accuracy) and check out the Hacienda website for specifics regarding company tax. Good luck.

https://www.expat.com/en/guide/central- … -rico.htmlhttp://www.hacienda.gobierno.pr/planill … ducto.html

Lauryburg

[As a child I traveled the island with my parents and sailed to all the surrounding Islands.  I want to give my son the same experience.  I will be doing some of this without my husband.  Do you have any pointers to making sure my son and I are safe in doing so?]

Hi, Joyce!

You may be able to travel throughout the island alone with your son, however I strongly suggest you travel with friends (if your husband can't make it) and be really careful of the places you plan to visit and the time of the day, too!

Things aren't the way the used to be (not here, not anywhere), but you just won't want to put yourself out there in open sight.  I am Puerto Rican and am very careful.  Even when stopping at a red light, I look around, rearview mirror and keep my doors locked.  Most people don't have the carefree spirit we use to have years ago due to the increased crime rate.

Whenever you can, travel in groups... it will be safer for you and your son.

Best of luck! :cool:

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