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Last activity 31 May 2017 by Gravitas

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sasha_08

hello,

my husband is an civil engineer and he has been offered 6500 RM  in KL MALAYSIA excluding rent,taxes..........i would like to know is 6500 RM sufficient for a couple no children,keeping saving perspective in mind. please suggest.............

thanks

carlyle1979

hi sasha, pls b specific about what the company is paying for besides a salary of 6500. rent, taxes? what bout car? thats the next big expense after rent and taxes.

my view is 6500 is manageable for a couple with a decent lifestyle.

sasha_08

hello,

6500 RM will be cost to company,and they are not providing accomodation,car .....and taxes have to be borne by us.....in this case 6500 RM we have to pay tax,food, accommodation,etc....can we have a decent life along with savings please suggest...........

thanks.... :)

carlyle1979

this is simple. definitely no.

coooolguy_tdh

I agree with Carlyle.. Dont move without a minimum of 10k cost to company.
Cheers n best of luck..

americanguykl

You can do it. I live here on 5700 a month and really just enjoy myself. It all depends on how you spend your money and ask yourself, in KL do you really need a car? You can find rent for 2000 or even lower and still have the rest to enjoy the month!

It won't be easy but far from undoable!

coooolguy_tdh

Americanguykl
Maybe coz u r living as single. They want to move here as couple. Plus they want to save some too...
Sasha.. Its still a no from my side...
Cheers..!

noisysteps

Cooolguy, you were asking for a 10k for a civil engineer... I think there will be no chance.

coooolguy_tdh

Noisysteps
I dont understand why cant a Civil Engineer with good international experience get anything lesser than that.
I can quote myself as an example..!
Cheers..!

noisysteps

But he already had one offer for 6500, in order to reach 10k, it is more than 50% raise from the original offer. I still think that it is no chance.
6500 RM for a small family from Hyderabad to live comfortably in KL is not a problem. For saving, that depends on their living style. As I know so many friends from Hyderabad, they don't need to spend much. For 2-3 years, they can save and buy one house in Hyderabad.

carlyle1979

completely agree with cool guy, if u r moving somewhere as an expat, u shud b paid decently, if not well. i dont think 6500 is good enough to live decently. i wud say 8k should b the bare minimum and 10k wud b better.

also u cant compare india and malaysia as cost of living is higher in malaysia. plus expats have additional needs that need to b compensated. eg. housing, school fees, a car.

still a no go from me.

coooolguy_tdh

But that is all inclusive offer.. So deduct the taxes and rent, there's very less left to spend and even lesser to save. Anyways these are my personal views only. Every individual is different. If I was him, I wont take that offer..!
Cheers..!!

carlyle1979

noisy steps, u sound quite confident bout the buying a house in hyderabad. how much does a house in hyderabad cost? divide that amount by 36 months (3 years) and tell me if sasha can save that amount every month from a 6500 salary.

americanguykl

Actually my GF lives with me and I live in a high class condo. If you want savings that's another story, but we live easy and enjoy ourselves with less. I'd say go for it because even with my rent I do fine. If you choose an economical condo you'll be great.

GAilicec

It really got to depend on your lifestyle. The accommodation can be RM350-RM500 for a low cost flat, RM600-RM1.2k for a lower medium cost apartment, RM1.5k-RM1.8k for a higher medium cost apartment, RM2k-RM3k for a decent condo. It's pretty hot here, electricity can cost up to RM400-RM500/month if you've the air-conditioner on 24/7, the rest are ok, but savings start at 7pm-6am, so if you want to iron/boil water/etc, there's where you can save.

If you're taking public transportation, yes, you can save on car rental & petrol/toll/parking which in all can come up to RM2.5k-RM3k, you probably need to spend RM150-RM200/month on public transportation.

If you're cooking / preparing the meals yourself, you can get your meat/vegetables/fruits/goods at wet/morning & night market which can be a whole lot cheaper. But if you like shopping in stores instead on streets, then Tesco/Giant would be the best stores to get cheaper produce than any other stores. For 2, you can look into RM300-RM600/month. Having a drink outside, a cup of coffee cost RM1-RM1.20/each at hawker stalls inside cheap restaurant, but cost up to RM8/each at middle cost restaurant. Eating out at the cheap restaurant cost RM4-RM6/meal (Nasi Lemak, Prawn Noodle, Laksa, Economic/Mixed Rice (buffet style with selection of dishes), etc). For the same thing in middle cost restaurant will cost 50%-200% higher.

So, it really depends on you.

noisysteps

I'm quite confident because most of my Hyderabad guys here have bought a house in India after 2 years working with us. So I'm pretty much think it is not an issue. But one thing is their package is 10k + accommodation + office car (only use to go to client site). :):P

noisysteps

But normally before people giving an offer to someone, they would definitely check how much that guy earns currently. Looking at the package, I would say this guy may not have that much experience as you guys expected to be an expat. 6500 RM is good enough for a starting point to get more experiences. Without that starting point, how can he get more and more? Guys, people will not just give out an offer number just for fun, there must be a reason behind that.
And as you might know, there are currently hundreds or thousands of people (sorry to say, no offense, but most of them are Indian with one month VISA) staying in KL Central spending 30-50RM per day (accommodation budget is included) just to hope for an offer come across. Most of them are IT guys with Master or Bachelor Degree. So I think having a starting point at 6500RM is not that bad. Can't have decent life without passing some hurdles. :p

carlyle1979

10k + accom + car sounds like a good offer. 6500 and thats it, does not amount to much in kl. but i see ur point noisy steps and its a valid one. maybe this salary equates to experience.  im saying no because i am spendthrifty and like to enjoy life :-) and dont think i can manage with this package. but everyone has a varied view and lifestyle. i just feel bad for sasha who has to make a decision.

coooolguy_tdh

Sasha..
If I may ask, which area of construction has your husband got experience in? Buildings, Real Estate, Heavy Infrastructure? And how many years of experience has he got?
I am also a Civil Engineer and working in MRT project. I might be able to help you take a decision (if you have not taken already)
Cheers..!

piyushhirapara

Hi Guys,

I am from India.
I have been offered salary in Malaysia @ RM 5400 + Accomodation + Transportation. They are also offering separate salary in India being an Indian company. My office location would be Jalan Perak.

I am going to shift along with my Wife. I just want to know, whether I can save any amount out of RM 54oo?

Also let me know the rent of 1 BHK Furnish flat around the Office area if in case they dont provide me Accommodation, I will have to ask compensation for the same.

Is Indian food and grocery is easily available there?

Kindly help me with information so that I can take right decision.

Regards,
Piyush

coooolguy_tdh

Hi Piyush
Please compare with your current saving before making the decision. And make sure you get accomodation and transportation. Else it would be very very tight for you to manage. And in that case I would advise you not to take the offer.
Cheers..!

Nemodot

My 23 year old couchsurfing temp flat mate who is Vietnamese is being paid 6500 rm. 2 years experience and ok for a young single.person willing to share and company pay her costs most of the time including rent as she is outstation most of the time so basically that is her travel fun money.

So a family man and experienced engineer? Rubbish salary!

piyushhirapara

Coolguy,

Thanks for the inputs. So I understood that a family of two can not live happily in RM 5400. That means no question of savings out of 5400 even i manage to get Accomodation and transportation from Company.

Thanks again!!

coooolguy_tdh

Piyush
In case you are not getting accommodation and transportation from company, in that case I would discourage you from taking up the offer.
If you are getting the accommodation and transportation, then on 5400, you will have tax.
As it looks like, you dont have kids yet. So my best opinion is that you may be able to survive but then again I am not so sure about the savings.
Speaking for me, I cant.
Again depends on you.. Your living expenses should fall between 2500 to 4000 per month.
Now its your call.
Cheers..!

sasha_08

coolguy,

my husband has experience in QUANTITY SURVEYING, 4 yrs in IT,RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS,TATA AEROSTRUCTURE,IT PARKS..

thanks

Nemodot

Hi never met an expat quant surveyor in Malaysia so maybe local only job. As always all things are possible but usually it means lower salary and hard work to find work. As always networking is required hardly any expat jobs get advertised locally but by specialised agencies and websites. Eg for education you have search associates and TES. For engineering, oil, transportation and medical there are loads as that is what Malaysia most employs. For finance, hr consulting, retail and hotel management most are sent over and are senior. These are the main sectors i can think of where expats mostly work.

tullimoin

Hey, this is just insufficient. I know an English guy who earns 7 figure annual salary as a lawyer because he is from UK. Your employers are just pulling the wool over your eyes because (I am guessing) you are Indian from Hydrabad, what do you expect. Even worse if English Managers are adjusting your salary. They should pay you more.

Vinit21

Hi All,

I am from Mumbai (India) and got an offer of 8393 MYR (Including Tax, PF, Accommodation..Everything). I have a very good lifestyle in India and would like to maintain same in Malaysia. Can you help me out in making a decision whether it would be a good idea to move to Cyberjaya with the above mentioned CTC along with my wife. Looking forward for your response. Thanks!

Regards,
Vinit

tullimoin

Yes, I think if you have all other stuff paid for by the company and you only need to spend on food, then that is a good salary. If you can negotiate that the company pays for your childrens' education, even better. Some companies do that for white folk

Vinit21

Hi Tullimoin,

Thanks for your reply!
No, accommodation needs to be arranged by myself which is a big factor before making a decision. We are just a couple and no kid at the moment.

Regards,
Vinit

coooolguy_tdh

Dear Vinit
First of all, deduct 26% for first six months as flat tax. After that deduct 2000 to 2500 for your housing, average meal per day will cost you between 20-25RM (if eating at mamak stalls)
As you said you have a very good lifestyle in Mumbai and you wanna continue that here in KL too.. I dont think buddy you will be able to with that much salary. One outing to a club/high end restaurant/disc/pub will cost you min 500 to 1000RM.
Now do the maths...! I would say if you make a move, you wont be able to save anything and your wife too might have to work.
I would advise you to follow my other posts too to have a better understanding of the costs here in KL.
Cheers..!

tullimoin

Yes cool guy is right. Please do your homework before making a move. A good lifestyle in Mumbai is really high end. I cannot understand why you would want to leave your own country for this place if you have a good lifestyle. I wouldn't. I would love to go back if I could afford to.

Mayumi2013

In My opinion, it's no..
I stay in kl with My partner and our monthly rent is aready 6000 rm At kl

tullimoin

Wow, man you must be a millionnaire to be living in such expensive digs

noisysteps

Renting itself is 6000 RM? Haha... you must stay at the top of KLCC... lolz.. :D

genozigger

RM6000 per month on rent? Posh real posh and that doesn't compare to the sum on where I am staying in Sydney.

Does anyone know how much rent a person needs to pay per month for a decent 1-2 bedroom unit in KL?

Just an apartment with security. No need for swimming pool, gym or other extra's.

How much is the rental price for that kind of unit?

kumar10

hei,

ya, RM6500 is a good salary. U can safe money if u can cook yeself

coooolguy_tdh

Kumar10
Please dont misguide members who post their querries. All the posts above clearly give the message opposite to your opinion.
Of course you are free to post your opinion but then substantiate your comment pls.. How will she be able to save money?
Cheers..!

raj8687

Hi,

I have got the offer of RM 7K P.M . My company will bear the transportation cost, mobile bill , internet bill and accommodation.
I am single . Is this offer a decent enough for me to save few money ?

Regards
Raj

coooolguy_tdh

Raj8687
I see that you belong to my wifes place..! Congrats man.. You have landed yourself a nice job. All expenses paid by the company.. Cool.. what about the ticket and visa costs?
Ask them if they can provide once a year return ticket for you to India.
In accommodation, are they providing you a flat? or a shared bachelors accommodation? and transport? Will it be your own car or are they just gonna reimburse you local public transport?
Lastly, your taxes will be 26% for first six months..! After that, they will return to normal as per Malaysian tax rules and don't forget to get your international driving permit before you leave India..!
Cheers and best of luck..!

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