Malaysian Marriages & Scams

What about the English Indian man found marrying Indian women. About 20+ of them. He got an average 7,000 pounds dowry for each one. He got caught out when they all applied for spouse visas to UK.

Such scams are all around.

Since this is a forum for expats perhaps this should be a thread warning about SPG instead
Quite a number of SPG threads on this forum as well.

Thing is, it's not different from any other forum that caters for all. I don't reply half my messages (private) as its obvious there ain't nothing there but a passport/scam request. Luckily women are mostly ahead of these things nowadays. Still, this forum seems to be full of men totally ignorant to fact that females look for other females to interact with, in a personal level. Do these idiotic profiles get deleted?

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SPGs where? I wish there were more

I had to look at what an SPG is.....

I guess the meaning is Sarong Party Girl - definition: The stereotypical Sarong Party Girl has extremely tanned skin, a false foreign accent and is provocatively dressed. The Sarong Party Girl stereotype in local entertainment is usually portrayed as gold-digging, husband-snatching Asian sirens.

Nemodot - do you get out enough - LOL

What is a little sad is that I know a lot of decent women who come say from Europe to work here and discover that whereas they were swarming with suitors at home, their potential counterparts here only have eyes for women from the region.

Not all African men in Malaysia are bad. Not all European or American men here are all good too.
In every community , there will be the bad ones.
You may find more of the bad Africans here, simply because the better ones end up in European countries or Australia for better living. The nice ones, try to lay low here because of the problems their friends are causing. I know many who are law abiding, well mannered people.
Only they stay at home more, avoiding the cynical stares and trying to stay of unwanted trouble.

Gravitas wrote:

I had to look at what an SPG is.....

I guess the meaning is Sarong Party Girl - definition: The stereotypical Sarong Party Girl has extremely tanned skin, a false foreign accent and is provocatively dressed. The Sarong Party Girl stereotype in local entertainment is usually portrayed as gold-digging, husband-snatching Asian sirens.

Nemodot - do you get out enough - LOL

What is a little sad is that I know a lot of decent women who come say from Europe to work here and discover that whereas they were swarming with suitors at home, their potential counterparts here only have eyes for women from the region.

SPG come from Singapore a term coined by Expat wives that their husbands (aka as Jerks) chase after girls with Sarongs (they come off easily lol)

The old "expat gal gets no men moan" is as older than the internet. Even if one ignores the attraction of a size 6 girl in a  mini that looks sexy at 30 (looking much younger) there are rational reasons why expat men go for locals:

1. Well when overseas eat the local food why east western food? will have to go back soon (prob). So try the local food and women! Helps learn the local culture

2. Statistically easier. 10 single locals to every 1 single expat met socially. So bound to happen.

3. An Expat gf is not long term as one or both of you will move on. Men like to be in charge, Have a local gf and settle then perfect. If you move on then the expat man does the dumping.

4. In South East of UK 1.6 million more single men than women (so I read - southerners have more male babies as higher testerone levels). In Malaysia/Thailand/Indonesia etc more single women than men. By millions. Hence more than one wife/mistress thing. So men expat men of less attractive or less confident personalities especially love Asia.

This is before comparing looks, attitudes and well other factors. But even considering the above bound to happen.

It does affect the less successful (with women) males more. I personally find it easier in London to get gfs (that is intelligent women with the right level of maturity and personality) partly due to culture, but mostly as women get married young here and divorce less. So less available for the more selective male.

Trust me SPG problem is not exclusive to expats only. Those misguided souls will do whatever it takes even for a night's worth of booze.

Modjo - thanks for your input. From observation it is firstly all about who is going to pay for the night out as you say, and many of the women who hang about bars or come man-hunting in Malaysia simply cant afford to socialise.  So they hang around men who look vulnerable and potentially wealthy. I agree with Nemo that the girls make a bee-line for the slightly "odd" expats as they hope they will not be so choosy. I also see that Malaysians are not left out of the hunt. The slightly "odd" women who come hunting tend to latch on to people who they think will not be so selective i.e. the deal is sex really.

This is of course the history of mankind but perhaps some true, cautionary tales would be in order:

1. Drunk westerner picks up girl and takes her home. Next morning everything of value of all the occupants (phones, computers, tablets, credit cards, money, passports, etc.)from the shared apartment is gone - as well as the girl.

2. Westerner picks up girl and she offers sex after a short time at her hotel nearby. Man eager and glad he got lucky follows girl. When in room, man finds there are 2 countrymen of the girl there already and he gets raped.

3. Westerner just arrives in KL and finds out it is quite a fun lifestyle (getting into debt every night on his credit card). Inevitably meets a barfly girl and it is a new experience to have such power and attraction. Gets into a clandestine relationship. Western girlfriend (who gave up everything to follow the love of her life) finds out and he says he is leaving her. She jumps off the condo balcony.

4. Another version of 3. is the guy meets a boy and has a great fling and when he tires of the live-in sex slave and tells him it is over (knowing that the violence and cruelty in the homosexual world is quite unbelievable) the boy, anyway, jumps off the balcony.

ANOTHER Cautionary Tale:

Expat guy gets lucky in a bar and begins a relationship with a pretty young lady. Everything is going swimmingly. Just that he does not seem to be hearing so much from his mates and even though he now has a partner and is "eligible" to be invited to couples events, its all too quiet. So what is the problem - a friend whispers in his ear. It goes like this: the expat couples don't want to get involved (or rather the wife does not) 'cos she knows that there is always a "friend" to be introduced - so hanging out with the "new" couple presents a threat to her relationship. Then there is the dilemma. Everyone knows that the pretty young lady will probably accidentally on purpose get pregnant quite soon - how do you tell your expat guy the danger he is in?

Gravitas you have to consider the different cultures. Women in Asia (actually I really mean Chinese more) are far more likely to value a plain man as he is less likely to cheat/run away, will be a better father and have a steady (profitable) career etc. These are considered virtues by some women in UK/USA of course, but less so in my observations. That is why men like me that are confident round women scare off the more traditional Chinese Malaysian women who generally are very serious over 24. They tend to go for western guys with a bald patch, glasses and a lack of confidence around women. Maybe a mummies boy as well lol. That I aint. Malay and Indian are very different, the ones who are single over 24 are more open minded and don't like wussy men and mummies boys (lots in Malaysia so I am told - I never dated them so cant say lol). Each to his own

Being conned btw is rare, but knew two Canadians who after arriving had a night out without any memories and wallets gone. Got ruffied we guessed.

Thailand has more than its fair shares of fleeced males. I say good luck to the women there. Caveat emptor

I don't see Malaysians in this category at all - by the way. They meet westerners in a different way, such as through their jobs. The theme of this thread is more about who else is in the bars and clubs and usually not around too long in KL, unless......

There are lots of Malaysian girls looking for an expat. Same in Singapore but dynamics is different as local men are wealthier and same really in Malaysia. They are looking for an escape from 5Cs and same here in Malaysia. One Singaporean woman I know complained Singaporean men only had an orgasm when their stock portfolios went up! They like a bit of romance to be made love to like a woman. Not an asset.

But even in Thailand it isn't all money. The richest are Japanese then Chinese then westerners. What the west offers is a new start and no rascism/glass ceiling. That is also true for some Malaysian women who are non-Bumi in some cases.

And of course most women are just plain normal although in Bangkok it isn't unusual for a student at Uni to have a rich Chinese sugar daddy, a local male lover and a white guy just for the experience. At the same time. Thai men are butterflies so they say so the women are doing the same! (Thai laddetes). Women's lib? Malaysian women especially Chinese are the most conservative though in Asia.. I have done extensive research on this....... hey it was all research