Be careful with doing charity

cafengocmy wrote:

The North has more big foreign companies than the south outside of HCM but the whole business mindset seems to be more alive in the south and there are fewer palms to be greased.  My town was a small place, a highway town built on and subsuming several traditional villages. It was  in extreme poverty 11 years ago. Now it is effectively a city of perhaps 60k people though it is administratively divided into several separate units. There are still poor people but everyone has work or does business. In '03 there were young men sitting around at tables getting and staying drunk in the middle of the day. There are not any of those any more. They all have jobs.  Some beggars I met back then are selling stuff and live in houses now.  There are still beggars but they are selling lottery tickets now rather than abasing themselves and crying for money. I am very optimistic. If the situation with China does not become war then VN will become a modern middle class country in a generation or two more. Perhaps it will pass the US going the other way.
My friend is not so much lucky as enterprising. He said something very American to me once- "A man makes his own luck."

I really like reading your comment. Especially " A man makes his own luck".. really very American. Thanks for your sharing cafengocmy

@Dejavu.dot: I think you are Vietnamese, I dont have time to read all posts here. But I read this post about Bode pagoda. I have a friend, she is journalist. Here a her stt: "Lại nói về chùa Bồ Đề. Càng đi sâu điều tra về vụ việc càng rút ra một điều: nghe cái gì cũng phải nghe hai tai.
Lâu lắm mới làm một vụ thấy đã như vậy. Đi tìm sự thật đằng sau bức thư thống thiết tố cáo Bồ Đề bỏ rơi trẻ 9 ngày tuổi. Những câu chuyện ra nước mắt. Những bằng chứng thuyết phục.
Hài lòng vì những gì đã làm được.
Mai nhé!
Người Đưa Tin sáng mai bắt đầu nổ!
Sướng."

She is a good journalist that I know. If you care about this, contact her to know more. Here her FB: https://www.facebook.com/tram.hue.1?fref=ts

I know a Vietnamese woman, she lives in America now, she always do charity in the North. She helped many poor children. You can contact her if you want to do charity:
https://www.facebook.com/chung.le.5015?fref=ts

Dejavu.dot wrote:

But this is the place for children which hasn't been built while the other places of this pagoda have been built from 2010 until now because those buildings are too big and luxury. children still sleep on the floor and there are a lot of bruises on their body because of mosquito & nannies which are paid 2m/month by pagodas but the real salary is more than that because there are many donors give them money per month. It is said that those orphans are brought to abroad for expats or adopted by Vietnamese family at the price from 50m/child while another children are legally brought up in the pagoda ("Legal" mean cant be adopted-pagoda policy while a child can receive many financial sources from their fathers and mothers in law)

This pagoda has had bad rumors for years but is ignored by government. The abbot's family also do the same business with some big pagodas in the north and have bad rumors as well. They have many houses, lands and go to bar everyday. (If you are curious, I will tell you the biography of Bo De pagoda abbot). Many donors was replied that it is better to give them money when they contact this pagoda for doing charity.

One girl intended to give cakes to nannies to deliver for those 100 orphans but those children cried and told her not to do that because the nannies won't give them while those products will be sold to the market if they are delivered to pagoda's storage....I cried when know many things about this place.

I don't mean all charities are bad.. Instead of that, I feel grateful for those kind heart but pagodas have changed a lot. Now it is a business and monk become a job.

Thanks Ngatt,

I was told about this by many Viet ladies. I am a Dominican.

I am sorry to say that it is not easy for me to give my money to someone I don't know.

Regards,

Dejavu.dot wrote:

Thanks Ngatt,

I was told about this by many Viet ladies. I am a Dominican.

I am sorry to say that it is not easy for me to give my money to someone I don't know.

Regards,

Yes, it is not easy for anyone to give money to others. Not only you.

I thought I would do charity with some poor people, but I never have a chance to do this, because I dont find anyone to believe when I have money. When I found the woman (above), I dont have money anymore . I am going to become homeless , hic hic, and I have many things to do now. I think you are Vietnamese, you can read many things in her FB, and you will make a decision...

BTW, there are many way to do charity. Now I only do charity for my students, I spend all my free time for them, because I think all my efforts will make some good chances for them in the near future. And I talked to them, I help them as much as possible and I hope them will help others.

About Bo De pagoda, I thought you are Vietnamse, so I paste some Vietnamse that dont translate. Sorry dear  . My friend said that, everything in the paper is not true. She is trying to find the truth to prove what she think about this pagoda.

ngattt wrote:

Dejavu.dot wrote:

Thanks Ngatt,

I was told about this by many Viet ladies. I am a Dominican.

I am sorry to say that it is not easy for me to give my money to someone I don't know.

Regards,

Yes, it is not easy for anyone to give money to others. Not only you.

I thought I would do charity with some poor people, but I never have a chance to do this, because I dont find anyone to believe when I have money. When I found the woman (above), I dont have money anymore . I am going to become homeless , hic hic, and I have many things to do now. I think you are Vietnamese, you can read many things in her FB, and you will make a decision...

BTW, there are many way to do charity. Now I only do charity for my students, I spend all my free time for them, because I think all my efforts will make some good chances for them in the near future. And I talked to them, I help them as much as possible and I hope them will help others.

About Bo De pagoda, I thought you are Vietnamse, so I paste some Vietnamse that dont translate. Sorry dear  . My friend said that, everything in the paper is not true. She is trying to find the truth to prove what she think about this pagoda.

It is ok. Don't worry Ngatt

There are many ways to do charity and I am interested to hear many ideas in Expat.coms. Today you also give me another new point. Thank you Ngatt.

About Bo De pagoda, I don't care about it much. I just want to tell people to be careful when I do charity cos I have sometimes seen some charity events here. It is not something like you feel proud when you give money to someone to do charity but it turns out  you are cheated.

Dejavu.dot wrote:

There are many ways to do charity and I am interested to hear many ideas in Expat.coms. Today you also give me another new point. Thank you Ngatt.

Yeah, I give one thing, but I take many thing from my students. Sometimes, I only post a status on my FB, like that "My dears, I need something...blah blah blah" , my students will help me immediatelly (about 5-10 seconds , kakaka). They send PM or comment, they try all their best to help. I've just taught in this university about 1.5 year.
I always believe in power of kindness!

Ông biết Xitô chưa?

ngattt wrote:

Dejavu.dot wrote:

There are many ways to do charity and I am interested to hear many ideas in Expat.coms. Today you also give me another new point. Thank you Ngatt.

Yeah, I give one thing, but I take many thing from my students. Sometimes, I only post a status on my FB, like that "My dears, I need something...blah blah blah" , my students will help me immediatelly (about 5-10 seconds , kakaka). They send PM or comment, they try all their best to help. I've just taught in this university about 1.5 year.
I always believe in power of kindness!

That is kindness!
char·i·ty
: the act of giving money, food, or other kinds of help to people who are poor, sick, etc.; also : something (such as money or food) that is given to people who are poor, sick, etc

cafengocmy wrote:

Ông biết Xitô chưa?

I cant understand

Dejavu.dot wrote:

That is kindness!
char·i·ty
: the act of giving money, food, or other kinds of help to people who are poor, sick, etc.; also : something (such as money or food) that is given to people who are poor, sick, etc

Oh, sorry dear, I made you confuse . I knew already about charity. Because in your post (above), you said, when you do charity, you feel proud... That why I told you about my happiness when I help my students.

When doing charity, we think so much. And we can't do anything. My colleagues and I contribute some money to do charity, and until now, 1 year, money still in the pocket, because we consider where we can do, whether they are really poor...

I go further . Nice day.