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Shakurismy001

Is there anything like "Natural Love"? If there is, then let Expat educate me.

syed zee

A person may be in love with someone until the end of time, but if that person doesn't tell their feelings of love, it will just be another person living a dream . . . a loss of true love.but remember my friend The feelings of the heart are more truthful than the expressions of the mouth.

Fred

Shakurismy001 wrote:

Is there anything like "Natural Love"? If there is, then let Expat educate me.


I only know about unnatural love.
I would explain, but I'm feeling sheepish.

Bidara sary

I see that peoples around the world likes to discuss about love... It look to me that we human can't life without love but why there are still " killing, crimes every where!!!???

Shakurismy001

@Syed Zee, I am not talking about the genuity of human feelings or affections towards others, neither do I doubt the existing of true love. But my question is; is there anything like "Natural Love".
@Mas Fred, I don't need a teacher for Unnatural Love because it exists everywhere even in this Expat.com.
I am still waiting for a teacher to teach me where exist a natural love with reference.
Then I can be able to understand the defination of Natural Love and it's meaning.

dora.afua

I am looking for true love

Fred

dora.afua wrote:

I am looking for true love


Your husband may be less than happy at that post.

Shakurismy001

@dora.afua,
Do you have a fake one or what do you mean by looking for true love...expanciate, people here may help

Primadonna

The love when you feel when you become for the first time a parent?

Or do you mean romantic love?

Shakurismy001

@Primadonna,
The love you felt when you first become a mother is not a natural...because such love is a direct attachement to your offspring, therefore is not natural.
I am still waiting to know if natural love exists...

stumpy

@shakurismy001

How can a mother's love for her child be unnatural as you put it ??!!
Love is an attachment to someone or something and the love a mother has for her child is something to behold, believe me. 
You sound to me to be a little negative regarding love and this will definitely cloud your judgement when it comes to find love.

Bidara sary

@shakurismy001  Mothers love is the most natural in the whole universe
I just don't  get it ,,,what kind of natural love are you looking for
We tried to give our view about love but it seem not to your liking

Shakurismy001

@Stumpy & Bidara Sary,
I understand how passionate you guys are with your posts especially when it comes to mother's love, but in the field of study or learning OBJECTIVITY is core...
Note that the topic of the discussion is "Natural Love". That is, is there anything like Natural love?
For your information we have different classification of love, and what you guys are writing about belongs to different class.
I am still waiting for my teacher with reference...

stumpy

There is nothing like natural love, in fact there is nothing that comes close to natural love. Natural love can mean different things to different people and to me it is the bond between a mother and her child. 

Possibility you have yet to experience something even close to this.  Give us your version on natural love. Ask your teacher. 

In my humble opinion you seem to want to categorize  love so that it fits into your way of looking at love. As you grow older and travel I am sure your opinions will change as you gain knowledge from your travels as I have done.

Yes there is such a thing as natural love and to me the love between a woman and her child epitomizes natural love.

Bidara sary

I agree with @ stumpy every one is unique and very one is different we have different view in every matter we encounter
So good luck for you @shakurismy001 in finding the right answer about natural love

Primadonna

I agree what Stumpy wrote in his previous posts.

It seems that you don't know what natural love is. The most natural love I can think of is the love from a parent (that includes fathers as well!) for his child(ren).

You should explain us what you mean with natural love and maybe we can discuss it further as you want.
Otherwise this thread is useless because you don't accept the answers members giving you.

Fred

I watched my first child being born.
If you don't understand what that means, you haven't lived.

Bidara sary

mas fred wrote:

I watched my first child being born.
If you don't understand what that means, you haven't lived.


The feeling is unexplainable

Shakurismy001

Thank you all for your posts. But you don't have to insult others directly or indirectly because you don't really understand the concept of their discuss or they have different view on issue with you. Please let us be modest. Even you will agree with me that Stumpy is contradictory in his statement because he first said in his statement that there is nothing like natural love or close it and later he relate it to mother child love. Remember some people don't have biological children and they are experience love with or without adopting children.
Back to stumpy school of thought, love has nothing to do with travelling or are you saying that you got to love your wife and child as a result of your travelling experience? You don't have to travel or become an old man before you experience love, love grows with time though.


Note
Get my point right and clear before you contribute. I AM NOT SAYING THAT THERE IS NOTHING LIKE LOVE. Infact, I live today as a result of parent's love. What I am asking about is natural love. Definations, where it exists with references. I want to learn, hence this post.

Bidara sary

As I know, no one is insulting you @ shakurismy001 .. What we did is trying to give our opinion with what you called natural love
So if you wish to find the right answer or try find more opinion
Please kindly give us the example of natural love you mean
Be it objective or subjective so we can have more discussion about it

Thank you

Shakurismy001

Thank you Bidara Sary.
The topic goes thus, is there anything like natural love? Which is not the same thing as " is there anything like love".
Of course, I believe in love, true love, real love etc. But I don't think there is anything like natural love, therefore I said I need an Expat to teach me because I want to learn but need a conviction . Nobody is a repository of knowledge,I believe we learn everyday till we die.

By my own understanding, "Natural love can mean a feeling of affection one felt naturally without any external influence or  forces suppose to trigger the feeling".
I researched what most love are based on, and realise there was one reason or the other for every individual in love...
We all love for reason/reasons.

I challenge everyone to give me an example of his/her love one and I will tell you one of likely reason you are in love with the person.
If natural love exists may the world today would have been in peace.

I am still waiting for example of natural love with reference.

Thank you

syed zee

dora.afua wrote:

I am looking for true love


Dear love  is always around us but only we can find true love when we know to show and give our love . love is not give and take game no miss never its a giving game without think what u lose and what u get.so those days u will find every where thousands who clam to be romeo.Even he is 6 year or 106 year he say i love u. games about try u can give a chance or just complet ur time in waiting so i m not saying just do it with close eyes but with open heart
regards
true love is giving only giving

syed zee

Shakurismy001 wrote:

@dora.afua,
Do you have a fake one or what do you mean by looking for true love...expanciate, people here may help


never try to find a woman with a cheep way.bro think before u act

beppi

Humans have loved since they came into existence. The ability to feel love was given to them by nature. Thus all love is natural love.

stumpy

@Shakurismy001

You seem to want someone to clinically explain what natural love is. That will never happen as you seem to not grasp what others are telling you so that you can form your own opinion.

Love has a lot to do with travelling. Being away from loved ones,witnessing the love other races have for each other tends to open one's eyes to love in general and the love you are missing out on when away from family. Included in that is the natural love a mother has for her children. It is the same anywhere in the world, unconditional.

I too have witnessed the birth of my children and that is something I will never forget.,

I have witnessed the love a fellow man has when comforting a dying friend on the battlefield, seen men sacrifice themselves to save others. 

You seem not to be able to see beyond your narrow train of thought on the subject and seeking someone else to provide with an example. That won't happen as it is something you have to witness or be a part of.

Guest523

yes

Shakurismy001

@Stumpy, thank you for your response.
But this Expat.com is not a military barrack neither is it for zombies or shallow minded people.
An average member here is assumed to be learned, whether an Expat or potential Expat.
Hence, you can only contribute or air your opinion on issue without insult or making use of abuse words like "you seem not to be able to see beyond your narrow train of thought on the subject".
This blog is for discussion and not an argument. Therefore it is not about who is right but what is right with facts and figures if there is any.
So it is advisable for one to control his/her temperament and mind the usage of words even when you are saying the right thing or else you loose the interest of your audience.

Please, let us be polite, every member here have equal right and entitle to his/her opinion.

Thank you.

Shakurismy001

@Albatera,
Is it because of this discussion, or why did you say that?

syed zee

Albatera wrote:

Do you agree....next world war is coming....


Almost as long as there has been life, war has been a part of it. Mankind continues to wage war even though the consequences often breed nothing but misery. However, when a person is called to defend his or her country, or protect other defenseless people, it is his duty to fight. There is no question that there is evil in the world and we must not rest on our laurels and say it is none of our business. We cannot stand by and watch while others are being persecuted. It is the duty of mankind to uphold justice.
But bro pls stay on topic cos man need to know about love sorry natural love

Primadonna

Shakurismy001 wrote:

Natural love can mean a feeling of affection one felt naturally without any external influence or  forces suppose to trigger the feeling


If you describe natural love as above then I think I know what you mean.
In my opinion there is no such thing as natural love.

Every human being is from the first minute after his birth affected with the surroundings around him: love, family, friends, school, race, culture, traditions et cetera, to say in a short way: he is a production from his breeding. From each one he is affected in one way or the other. Some of them a little, some of them has a huge affect.

Now, suppose  one person is brought up in a very clinical situation without all these influences.
Is he capable to receive love, or more interesting, to give love?
I don't think so because he has never learned what love is so how can he give/recieve love or feel what love is?

HaileyinHongKong

My first thought was lost in translation.

Now I'm thinking troll.

Shakurismy001

@Primadonnas, ...Well thought. I agree with you. This always, has been my thought on the topic.

@Hailey, do you also agree with Primadonnas? And if yes, Can we now say "Love is Man made"?
And if yes? That is another topic we need to research on...

Armand

Shakurismy001 wrote:

That is another topic we need to research on...


I would say it is a topic irrelevant to Expat.com.

Armand
Expat.com Team

Shakurismy001

@Armand, alright.

syed zee

"Love doesn't just sit there, like a stone; it has to be made, like bread, remade all the time, made new." Ursula K. Le Guin

aliz809

This Natural Love is one that is not understood by humanity, in its most important particular.  I mean; that this Natural Love is not one that is sufficient to give human the Highest Degree of Happiness, which they may obtain in either the Mortal Life, or in the Life to Come.

aryavrat

My question is then what is unnatural love?
For me love is just love ................no real / un real or natural / unnatural.............

lyn_30

Reality talk...true love nowadays is not easy to find.  :|

lyn_30

Nothing serious, guys. Peace!!! :par:

syed zee

lyn_30 wrote:

Reality talk...true love nowadays is not easy to find.  :|


Modern man has transformed himself into a commodity; he experiences his life energy as an investment with which he should make the highest profit, considering his position and the situation on the personality market. He is alienated from himself, from his fellow men and from nature. His main aim is profitable exchange of his skills, knowledge, and of himself, his "personality package" with others who are equally intent on a fair and profitable exchange. Life has no goal except the one to move, no principle except the one of fair exchange, no satisfaction except the one to consume

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