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DuaneOz

Hi people,

I'm a dual British/Australian citizen. My wife and I want to live in Spain.

I've been searching jobs in Gibraltar and Madrid, Barcelona etc. I don't understand the wages at all and need some idea of the cost of living.

I'm a SQLServer database administrator in Australia. My wage here is:

$AUD 120,000 per year.
In Spain is looks like they pay 30.000 to 38.000 EU. Is that good?

Cost of living in Australia is:
43 cents of every dollar goes to the Government as income tax so they can squander it on helping private companies rip us off :|
Rentals here are about $AUD 1500.00 per month.
A decent T-shirt is about $AUD 60.00
A Citroen C4 costs $AUD 30,000
Paperback book is $AUD 40.00 to $AUD 50.00
Groceries per fortnight for two people about $AUD 250.00
A dump of a house that you wouldn't breed rats in costs about $AUD 600 - 800,000 (pure stupidity and greed on the part of the masses made this happen!)

So I can't understand the EU wage at all :(

If anyone can help clear up this disparity in wage figures it would be greatly appreciated.

Then I can move onto working out where to live :)

Sheetul

Welcome to Expat-blog, DuaneOz :)

indianabroad

Hi Mate ,

How much is your work experience? The amount you have said, i mean 36,000 to 38,000 yearly salary in euro here in spain is very hard to get these days in this hard economic condition. Spain has been hit very hard and its having the highest number of unemployed after greece. So if you ask my honest suggestion , don't shift to spain at this moment. Better move to Germany or France or some other country.

Cheers ,

Sougata

DuaneOz

Hi Sougata,

I've been a DBA for five years and a programmer for 14 years.

I wondered about the economic conditions and work.

The wages seem so different. Our wages in Australia are higher, but our expenses are out of this world.

I bought a book on Perl Win32 programming on Amazon US for $US 9.00. In Australia they were selling it for $AU 110.00 :/

My other option close to Spain is Gibraltar. I want to practice my Spanish and get immersed in the culture.

Hey Sougata, what is your impression of the Spanish people in general?

Duane.

Ozplod

Hey Duane

Couldnt help but reply to your post as I agree with everything you say about costs here in Oz. I have just returned from a month in Europe including Barcelona and the disparity in the cost of things was amazing. Barcelona is meant to be Spain's dearest city yet eating out, clothes, coffee etc were generally 30% to 50% cheaper than Australia with the added bonus of being generally much better quality than what we get here. As an example a coffee at Bracafe on Passeig de Gracia in Barcelona which is very upmarket (served on a terrace with a separate jug of steamed milk by a waiter) was about $2.50...yet over $4.00 back in Oz for Gloria Jeans garbage. Clothes at Zara or Mango are half the price of stuff here and light years ahead in design and quality. I could go on and on and on...

It was a reconnaissance trip for me with similar ideas to you. Overall loved Spain and Spanish people. Catalans have a reputation for being dour but found them to be friendly in general. Still you cant really generalize on a short trip.

I cannot comment on the crisis there.

One last thing. I spent time in Berlin as well and although I guess it doesnt tie in with your plans for Spain its a cheaper city but still vibrant, cosmopolitan and with the added security of the German economy behind it.

Anyway good luck with your plans...

DuaneOz

lulz, yeah mate. It's insane here with prices and the clothes are getting crappier. I think the general concept is "keep selling Aussies crap at rip off prices and after about ten years the next generation won't know any different".

From what I've gathered from your post the cost of living is much cheaper which would explain why the wages seem so low numerically.

I think I might survive a financial issue in the type of work I do, they're outsourcing IT jobs everywhere in Oz anyway so everyone's days are numbered.

Thanks mate.

mcjabb

I'll see you there mate!  I'm moving there in March of 11'.

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