meat they serve is not halal??

It's can happen so easily because money can buy emaan of weak people.
Once we will be MOMIN (Real Muslim) Inshallah it will not happen.
May Allah save us from Haram

This is a controversial topic because many people like to weigh in their opinion based on what they know.

We have a government body here called SFDA (Saudi Food and Drug Authority).
It's head is HRH: the Crown Prince.

The following ministries take care of that:
- Municipality and Rural Affairs
- Ministry of Interior
- Ministry of Health
- Ministry of Commerce and Industry
- Ministry of Agriculture
- Ministry of Water and Electricity
- Ministry of Finance
- Ministry of Economic and Planning

Also:
- Saudi Arabian Standards and Specification Organization
- Council of Chambers of Commerce and Industry in the Kingdom

The purpose of writing all this is to ensure you that ALL those guys take care of what you are asking about. They have very strict adherence to govern haraam/halaal when it comes to any edibles especially the meat. Each and every import is properly taken care of against the SASO standards.

I remember a case of an imported pickle that had mustard in it but the package contents didn't say that. As many around us are allergic to mustard, just to safeguard  them SFDA immediately blocked them from exporting to KSA. Not only that, the company was blacklisted as well. What do you expect about chicken and meat; you tell me?

TheLegendLeads wrote:

This is a controversial topic because many people like to weigh in their opinion based on what they know.

We have a government body here called SFDA (Saudi Food and Drug Authority).
It's head is HRH: the Crown Prince.

The following ministries take care of that:
- Municipality and Rural Affairs
- Ministry of Interior
- Ministry of Health
- Ministry of Commerce and Industry
- Ministry of Agriculture
- Ministry of Water and Electricity
- Ministry of Finance
- Ministry of Economic and Planning

Also:
- Saudi Arabian Standards and Specification Organization
- Council of Chambers of Commerce and Industry in the Kingdom

The purpose of writing all this is to ensure you that ALL those guys take care of what you are asking about. They have very strict adherence to govern haraam/halaal when it comes to any edibles especially the meat. Each and every import is properly taken care of against the SASO standards.

I remember a case of an imported pickle that had mustard in it but the package contents didn't say that. As many around us are allergic to mustard, just to safeguard  them SFDA immediately blocked them from exporting to KSA. Not only that, the company was blacklisted as well. What do you expect about chicken and meat; you tell me?

Great!! Thanks for the information... 

Thanks for reminding us THELEGENDLEADS, But we can't be assure about that, as you not aware from ALCOHAL which is available most of private compounds too? how it's come here if their security is to strict as it's HARAM in Islam too. I agreed they have some specific Organization to control such things, but don't forget till it's all under few peoples and they can cheat with money. No harm feeling brother, Just be wise once it's come to our Religion

Say the "Bism..." and eat it.

religion is made easy...don't complicate it...

Akprince wrote:

Thanks for reminding us THELEGENDLEADS, But we can't be assure about that, as you not aware from ALCOHAL which is available most of private compounds too? how it's come here if their security is to strict as it's HARAM in Islam too. I agreed they have some specific Organization to control such things, but don't forget till it's all under few peoples and they can cheat with money. No harm feeling brother, Just be wise once it's come to our Religion

Allah save us from Haram... very difficult to know where and what to eat...

hamudi wrote:

Say the "Bism..." and eat it.

religion is made easy...don't complicate it...

You are absolutely right, ... May Allah save us.

There is no limit to doubts....once we open the door it will not shut by itself, there is always 'what if...'

Yes there are people who will do anything for money, but there are also people who will not sell themselves, there are people with values and morals as well.

There will always be bad examples but good is greater than evil, there are more good people than bad, even if the media would like us to believe otherwise.

Every country has its regulatory authorities, which MOSTLY do their job and ensure that all things are according to the standards set in the country by law.

Examples:
- What if.....You were switched at birth at the hospital?
- what if....each time we buy something the labels are lies and their weighing machines at supermarkets are lying?
- what if everyone is lying to us?

What if what if what it...?
There is no limit.

Please know as TLL said about there are regulatory authorities which ensure that all meats and food imported into the country is exactly what it says on the label i.e. HALAL

However, I would not eat Mcdonalds anyway because its not healthy not because its not halal.

c'mon brah...McD has healthy food option too...salads...

now with all these what if questions u got me thinking....

....what if...

alpha.one wrote:

There is no limit to doubts....once we open the door it will not shut by itself, there is always 'what if...'

Yes there are people who will do anything for money, but there are also people who will not sell themselves, there are people with values and morals as well.

There will always be bad examples but good is greater than evil, there are more good people than bad, even if the media would like us to believe otherwise.

Every country has its regulatory authorities, which MOSTLY do their job and ensure that all things are according to the standards set in the country by law.

Examples:
- What if.....You were switched at birth at the hospital?
- what if....each time we buy something the labels are lies and their weighing machines at supermarkets are lying?
- what if everyone is lying to us?

What if what if what it...?
There is no limit.

Please know as TLL said about there are regulatory authorities which ensure that all meats and food imported into the country is exactly what it says on the label i.e. HALAL

However, I would not eat Mcdonalds anyway because its not healthy not because its not halal.

I agreed somehow there is good and bad people everywhere of the world, I accepted about my country too there is everything import and export even under the table.

But what is my opinion, we are not assure 100% is HALAL what come to us, ''Allah knows better''
Peace

Damn! when i was leaving India I was happy for eating meat anywhere in saudi arabia as it is supposed to be halal every where.... but nothing is sure....

Ok, this is what's called the pure form of skepticism

Assume you are served something not Halaal with all the authorizations I mentioned above --- right in place; who told you you'll be asked about it ever? No, you are not responsible or answerable in any way. Authorities will have to face the music; not YOU.

For us about health hazards, go for it if you are satisfied. Drop it if it doesn't. So, where is the problem?

Smuggling exists everywhere in the world. The problem is: it is not governable or regulate-able because of whatever. If it were, it would NOT exist in the first place. How can you quote a statistically tiny number of cases to validate a regulation? No, you can't!

Seems here sound start showing defending track, peace guys. As above I said, Allah knows better... So no need to mentioned even Thousands authorities, we can't stop once it's destiny for someone.

If we can't can't proof if it's haram or halal, same no one can proof who is good and who is bad.
Everyone speak upon their knowledge, and knowledge always can't be 100%.

Hi everybody,

Please note that i have removed some inappropriate posts from this thread.

Thanks,

Priscilla

Interesting topic but don't make it hard on yourself. Why you should worrying if it's someone else his job to control that?

And yes, there is alcohol in compounds and elsewhere.  But that's private and not of your concern.

A simple rule: if you don't trust, leave it.

I've had non halal food made with wine...mmm

hamudi wrote:

Say the "Bism..." and eat it.

religion is made easy...don't complicate it...

Well said hamuds......the problem these days is not extremism but too much confused moderation.

Primadonna wrote:

Interesting topic but don't make it hard on yourself. Why you should worrying if it's someone else his job to control that?

And yes, there is alcohol in compounds and elsewhere.  But that's private and not of your concern.

A simple rule: if you don't trust, leave it.

It's not my problem either they drink alcohal or not, and neither i have concern about that. It was my reply to someone up there who posted lot's of authorities here to check before something import to this place, and he was trying to said haram meat can't be import here, so that was my answer to him, if there is lot's of authorities then why alcohal is available here? it's also strictly haram too. So if ever they let them to brought here alcohal, then we can't be sure if they stop haram meat to import here.

By law you can serve only halal meat in KSA so it shouldn't be your concern. If someone lied and gave you haram meat then it is between him and god and you as an unsuspecting customer who ate it is not at fault.  This issue does not warrant such long discussion, and as stated earlier, god knows best. Your intentions are what matters on anything in Islam. There are bigger issues out there faced by the muslim community than halal and haram meat.

Well HRGuru. I don't think so you get my point. Better you go up check conversation from start. It's not issue someone lied and gave haram meat. It was about to brought haram meat here, which someone up mentioned it's can't be happen because he give lot's of organization references those are responsible to take care of it. ... I agreed with that there is saudi govt. taking care of it, but my point was if they taking care then how come haram (alcohal) available here? sure someone let them to brought here. so in this regard we are not assure about anything.

@Akprince, you are needlessly trying to make something a point when actually it's not.

I tried to address your alcohol concern above:

Smuggling exists everywhere in the world. The problem is: it is not governable or regulate-able because of whatever. If it were, it would NOT exist in the first place. How can you quote a statistically tiny number of cases to validate a regulation? No, you can't!

Having said that, what else do you want? Do you want us to catch all smugglers and bring them to this site for questioning?

be careful when travelling to other middle eastern countries. I once questioned the waiter if this is pork bacon or beef bacon, he said he'll get back to me...few minutes later he comes with a plate of bacon and says here you go. The manager comes rushing apologizing that the waiter misunderstood my request of having pork bacon.

Always truth is hard to face Hamudi

Hi everybody,

Following the request of the initiator( message received in private ),  i am now closing this thread.

Thank you,

Priscilla

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