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Experience in exchanging languages

Last activity 28 August 2018 by thanhbinh12

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Hey guys

So I'm not an expat yet but are definitely planning to become one. As far as I'm concerned, language is probably one of the utmost importance when it comes to living in another country. So i'm just curious of you guys' experience of exchanging languages as an expat.

Do you learn much? Was it helpful? I mean my mother tongue is Vietnamese which is not the most popular dialect to use internationally. Adding to that, I'm intending to move to Western countries so my knowledge of English wouldn't be a tool for exchanging languages either. But I still think it's a very cool way to learn more about culture in other countries, tho it's not gonna apply to me because of the circumstance, I want to know more about it.

SteveandMarty

Coming from the Vietnamese language would definitely be a handicap.  Most of us use languages coming from European roots, i.e. Latin (French, Spanish, Italian), German (English and Nordic languages) with some Greek touches.  For me, Spanish was easy to learn, and I found the people in San Miguel in particular to be patient with my garbled verbs, and speaking slowly enough to where I could understand them.  But coming from an Asian language....   you might want to take at least a couple of beginner's courses before you set out.

thanhbinh12

I myself am a Vietnamese who has been living in the Western world (Hungary, the US, Malta, and coming to France) for the last 9 years, so I guess I can share a bit of my own experience :)

I totally agree with SteveandMarty that having Vietnamese, or most of the Asian language as mother tongue is not really an advantage in term of learning or more exactly, acquiring other language of the Western world. However knowing and being fluent in English does help tremendously in exchanging languages, as the majority of people in the Western world can speak English well, even though most of the time it will not be their preference language

I have experiences in learning Hungarian (as school compulsory), German (as my own interests), Maltese (work requirements), French (life essential :D). I’ll be honest that not all of them turned out well

Hungarian and Maltese were the most difficult as they have nothing to do with any of the languages I’ve ever known. Time didn’t allow me to focus, and the resources are not as many as other languages. What I see is that Turkish acquires Hungarian very fast, and Arabic people can understand and speak Maltese almost right after the first lesson, as those languages shared the same root

German and French were better as they have a lot in common with English, only with more complicated tenses and grammar. I find that if you start first with German or French, then English, it’s much easier. I started with some free applications or wEbsite to have an idea, then go to a language center, took the test to see my level, and then took the intensive class from that level to properly organize what I have known, and got the chance to actually understand and practice the language.
The German and French friends I have can speak English, so it’s not difficult for me to exchange ideas by trying to attempt the target language first, then on the way just ask “Wie sagt man ...(English word or phrases)... auf Deutsch?” or « Comment dit-on...(English phrase)... en Français ? »

That’s all I have to share. Just take it as a grand of salt since I am not fluent as I wish in any of them. Beside German and French being from my own interests (hence I can speak more coherently !!!), other languages were the compulsory parts of a certain periods of my life. If there’s anything to suggest, I would say languages need practice, you need to use them to remember them. Take one or two proper classes as you will learn how the language was constructed and understood its origin (that part is not taught from the free online app). Speak to people, use English as your advantage to get help and find good resources to study

Hope your Expat journey soon starts with great experiences :)

SteveandMarty

You're a brave human to start with German.  If I hadn't been born into that language...   Germans often judge the educational level of another German person by his/her proper use of the German grammar.

thanhbinh12

I guess I've been lucky. So far the German-speakers I know are not (?yet) judgmental about my educational level. Probably because I am clearly non-German by the look, or just simply because most of them are my friends from school, so they know my educational level! I have been very blessed to have German-speaking friends who don't mind my German with the occasional "Wie sagt man...<English phase which I don't know in German>... auf Deutsch?"  :P

I don't know if I am correct, but the French might be more willing to help / more open (as comparing to total ignorance) if you attempt to speak the language first ? However German is the opposite, you guys would prefer the language spoken properly than someone tries to attempt incoherently. In that case they better speak English ?!? That's only my opinion from a tourist/exchange student point of view

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