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Last activity 01 February 2019 by urbanshopping101

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Lynn1964

Hello everyone I've been a regular on here for some time now. But recently I've become concerned as there are guys using this forum as a dating agency. I have already messaged the moderator about my concerns as I'm being constantly preyed upon by guys who I know are trying to dupe women from western countries for visas. They use any sites they can find to  do this. It's called "bezness" . They ask me in literally the first question am I married and where I'm from so they can figure out if I'm a good candidate.! You tell me what does that have to do with expat information ? I hope this will not be deleted as I feel ladies need to be aware of those guys. They try and sweet talk you to get to like them please be careful I know their intention and its not good believe me be aware and stay safe
Moderator I have not received a reply to my message last week !

Fred

Hit the 'report' button on the message as soon as you see it.
If you see any members on line with a light bulb in a blue circle like mine, copy the text and the user's profile page URL, sent it to them by PM, and we'll look after the issue until the mod team see it by banning the offending poster.

You must copy the text so we can see what they're up to.

Lynn1964

Thank you

Fred

You're very welcome - Expat.com doesn't want stalkers and other weirdos disturbing members so we will remove offenders as soon as they come to anyone's attention.
The admin do as much as possible to keep this site safe but no system is perfect so we need your help to get rid of these people.
I know the mod teams are very overworked at the moment so some things get missed but the next layer, the members with the blue bulbs, can ban them for you as a short term cure if the mod teams aren't working at the time.

Lynn1964

Thanx Fred I have taken care of this for now regards lynn

Guest8777

Is not just ladies there are just as many Moroccan women doing the same thing. This forum is not what it is meant to be due to the vast numbers of NON EXPATS.

Nebraska Girl

It is not just men seeking women, but there are local women seeking men too....it is all the same goal. It doesn't matter if a person is  married or not.  They will still try.

I usually don't  respond to people (male or female) local or not unless they are asking me about a specific  topic that seems  relevant to either a subject  in a forum, coping with an issue  involving a  family matter with an expat or a nation from my homeland, or someone  seeking genuine advice  about  immigration (by other means than me) to my homeland.
If someone is  asking you for a date and you don't know  them, report it and generally after the moderators review it that person gets removed. It is in the code if conduct that it is not a dating site. We all have to work together and protect ourselves and each other.

Khan.indian

Why you fear??
If any one send messages you then you should ignore them and do not reply,  you are not child no one can mislead you

Fred

Khan.indian wrote:

Why you fear??
If any one send messages you then you should ignore them and do not reply,  you are not child no one can mislead you


NO!
The members of this forum have the right to use it without being hassled - Your comment is wrong

Khan.indian

You are 54 year age,
Who can dating you?
😆😆😆

Khan.indian

I did not mean that, I mean if anyone fear someone is dating and you do not want this person then you should ignore that person,
This is simple
Everyone has mind,

Fred

Khan.indian wrote:

You are 54 year age,
Who can dating you?
😆😆😆


WHAT!!

Take a holiday until you learn some manners.

Lynn1964

Thanx Fred now you can see what he have had to deal with.

Lynn1964

' we' sorry

Fred

Lynn1964 wrote:

Thanx Fred now you can see what he have had to deal with.


The internet is full of them so it's hard work keeping them away from the forum

Lynn1964

Your right Fred thanx for your help

GabbyExpat

Hi Lynn,
Thank you so much for the post... I thought it was just me and being new I didn't want to offend anyone... a couple of guys have a approached me too.. One of them particularly persistent is asking me my age and that I show him a picture of myself...

Agreed what has status, age or showing face pics got to do with sharing ideas and experiences around expat issues...

Some of the replies in your post; demonstrate the misogynistic views that some men have towards women. 

Regards Gabby

Lynn1964

Hi gabby thanx for your message to me, I'm glad to see a fellow woman support me and I know it's not just me. We have to be careful because these guys will try everything to make you let your guard down they only have one thing in mind and thats to use us. Please report anyone who treats you this way. Me too I like to help people but I know the ones who are dishonest . Be careful and take care

Bronwyngc

I've thought the same thing, more so with some other expat sites, but this one, also.  I've removed my photo and blocked messages for this reason.  This way, I can still enjoy using the forum.

Lynn1964

Thanx for your message Bronwyn, stay safe

Kayincasa

Another expat female here, who has seen the predators on here; which is why I wrote on my profile that 'I am not a visa'.

Lynn, if you're in Casablanca, maybe we can connect. Stay safe girls. :)

alg2018

Indeed Fred, watch Frontline's "The Facebook Dilemma".

Blackdolphin

Thank you for this update, we laides must look out for each other now days.  No one wants to be a victim.  I appreciate you for taking the time to do this.  This is my third trip to Morocco and I'm married to a Moroccan man, and I look to this sit for Expat information, but I never accept people as friends on this website.

Me and husband trying to find a car to buy, and I need to find a good Doctor.  Thanks again for the warning message it's very helpful.

Guest8777

Sadly this is so true not just online but also just by living here as a foreign(er) / female. And some people will actually defend the perverts saying that its the woman's fault. The country is nice but the misogynist culture is disappointing. Sorry not sorry for keeping it real.

Rafeak

I don't know what I  can say to change your mind but you should know in all countries every where you go you will find perverts but it's not an excuse to mess judge the whole population

Guest8777

this type of "opportunistic" behavior happens in every poor/developing country. It is generally men (and sometimes women) looking for a ticket out of their dyer situation. If you get harassing messages, you can simply block, report or don't even respond. stay safe ladies and don't give out personal information  ;)

GabbyExpat

Dear All,
I am getting a bit tired of men contacting me... Saying all they want is to be friendly and hospitable... but then get personal and sleazy.

One guy demanded that I send him a photo, kept asking my age and if I had any children. After several days of him pestering me I pointed out that my husband and I were not comfortable with these questions.... He replied saying  "I did not know you're married ... It's your fault Gabby, if you tell me you're married then I do not take much time to converse with you"

I told him he should have read my profile and marital status before hitting on me... He clearly did not just want to be friends !!!

It's a shame that some try to ruin the experience for expats and genuine Moroccans...

Ladies and Gentlemen Beware!

Fred

Please report unwelcome PMs so we can ban the offenders.
The forum takes sex pestering very seriously.

XB23

Khan.indian wrote:

You are 54 year age,
Who can dating you?
😆😆😆


With all due respect, even a 70 year old white, and especially an Englishman, is far more desired in Morocco (and other parts of the world) than an Indian or myself. This has nothing to do with racism on my behalf, but that's the reality on the ground whether we like it or not.

Whenever I visit Morocco, I've seen plenty of old Europeans with Moroccans young enough to be their grandchild. So yes, there will be many who will happily date them in Morocco, and elsewhere!

I also feel their treatment in Morocco in general, was far better than the way they treated me, even though I share a similar culture as them, and I speak Arabic. From the moment I land in Morocco and wait in passport control, I notice how they treat me, compared to the Westerners. The questions I get asked, the way I'm looked at and my stuff searched and so on. While they get waved through with barely a glance.

There seems to be a preference and respect for white skinned Europeans/Americans regardless of age. They also appear to love and respect countries like England/America/France/Canada...Now if Fred has green or blue eyes...!

Fred

My eyes are green ... but my black hair and shiny white teeth have swapped adjectives.  :D

Guest8777

Agree with XB 23 on this! Not sure why, but it is disgusting.

Kayincasa

BX23,
Those aren't healthy relationships, personally I don't see 70 year-olds in the West dating people young enough to be their grandchildren. So if they are doing it here something isn't right.

I've been living in Morocco for a while, and I met a young woman, in her 20s, who specifically preferred grandfather-type because they were easy to manipulate, and take money from. I also met young men dating women 30 years their senior, just looking for an opportunity to get into Europe - or to be purchased luxury items. Sometimes these women make the initial move, I've seen one case. she was in her 50s and he was in his early 20s, in the end he just kept asking for money!

Europeans are not always the victims, of course. There's been many cases of paedophiles exploiting local children.

As for Khan's comment, in the West 50s date. Relationships are not just for reproduction. :)

Moroccan1

Looks like moroccans got a bad reputation 😁

urbanshopping101

I think people need to use common sense.  This is likely great practice for real life.  Men or women that are so forward usually have an agenda.  There are no shortages of women in Morocco looking to get married.  So if someone was really looking to get married for the right reason ( ex love and not economics) they would be more likely looking  at the girl next door.  There are seedy people like this all over the world.  My advise would be ignoring them.  You can't control how others act, but you can control how you respond.  If you want to scare off those types try redirections the conversation. 

For example.  Yes.  I am single.  Are you single?  Do you have a good job?  How big of an engagement ring will I be getting?  What kind of car do you drive?  How big is the villa you are buying for use to live in?  My parents expect a large dowry.  These questions are likely to ensure he wont contact you again : ) !

Fred

urbanshopping101 wrote:

My advise would be ignoring them.  You can't control how others act, but you can control how you respond.


Don't ignore them - report their posts and PMs.
We can control them on here with the 'ban' button.

XB23

Eser wrote:

Agree with XB 23 on this! Not sure why, but it is disgusting.


I believe there are several reasons why.

One of them, is the fact there is a racist mentality across the MENA region, not limited to Morocco. Take for example the media coverage of an incident such as a bombing that has taken place, especially in a tourist area - A tourism minister would say something like "40 have died, but luckily none of them were foreigners (i.e westerners)".

Also across the region (in some countries, not sure about Morocco), Westerners - particularly those looking to invest, receive preferential treatment than the citizens themselves. They get the help and support they need. Which is why some citizens have opted to try and obtain a second nationality just to be given the same treatment in their own country.

When they leave and come back with a Western passport, they enjoy new-found freedoms, respect & rights (that they should already have but unfortunately don't). Not everyone is after a Western passport for economical reasons. Some simply want to have more freedom & rights. To be treated with more respect.

I was treated as inferior, and I agree with you - it's disgusting. The French seem to stroll around as if they still own the place while they looked at me as someone beneath them. The sub-saharan African migrants face much worse, even those legally in the country. I've heard them described as criminals, and so on. Blamed for things. They have never been welcomed by the natives.

Fred

XB23 wrote:

I was treated as inferior, and I agree with you - it's disgusting. The French seem to stroll around as if they still own the place while they looked at me as someone beneath them. The sub-saharan African migrants face much worse, even those legally in the country. I've heard them described as criminals, and so on. Blamed for things. They have never been welcomed by the natives.


This is the wrong thread for this stuff but I'm going to comment anyway because that ruddy terrible attitude bugs the merry poop out of me.
I see it here, white westerners treating locals as if they're servants, things to command rather than people. I saw one guy in a local cinema abusing the hell out of the guy on the popcorn stand because the lad couldn't understand English - Drr, idiot, it's Indonesia - learn enough Indonesian to order popcorn.
The poor popcorn dude was looking seriously upset as another white foreigner (me) was next in line  so I made a point of being very polite (In Indonesian).
I don't want locals to think we're all as stupid as the first guy.

That's just one incident that stood out, but there are plenty more.
No bloody respect for people - Grrrr !

To attempt to get this post roughly on topic ....
I believe that same attitude is the reason SOME men treat ladies the way we're seeing on this thread.

urbanshopping101

I don't think this really has all that much to do with any specific cultural group doing this to another.  I think it is more of a social class issue.  I have seen wealthy Moroccan's treat their own people like dirt if they have less money. 

Regarding the language issue I remember being in a resort in Panama and observing a bilingual French/ English speaking freaking out that the staff working often did not understand English or French and only spoke Spanish.  The manager at the resort was quick to remind them they were in Panama and it was a Spanish speaking country.  I think sometimes people from anywhere can just forget their logic and manners at times.

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