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Re-entering using the 90-day Social Visit Visa shortly after leaving?

Last activity 16 December 2019 by cvco

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jojoefo

I am thinking about applying to Malaysia's MTEP programme, but before I do, I would like to see if living there for a longer period of time is something for me. I am self employed, and hold a Danish passport. All my businesses are online, so I won't be taking any jobs away from the locals.

It was my plan to stay at Johor Bahru for 9 months. Now, my only concern is that I will have to re-enter every 90 days crossing Singapore (so 2 additional entries), and maybe spending a day in Singapore. I probably won't be going, or applying if I can't stay for a longer period of time, as I hate moving around all the time. I would like to know if anyone else has done this before, and what your experiences has been doing it.

I have read on another forum, that it's possible, but the thread was back from 2010, so I don't want to bet it all on that piece of ("perhaps") outdated information.

"Yup - they'll give you another 3 months when you re-enter - no problem.

But be aware that you can't stay in Malaysia indefinitely on tourist (social visit) passes. You can do it 3 times consecutively, then you'll get refused entry until you've been out of the country for at least 2 months. This is a new policy started this year and it's caught a few people out because it's not something that's openly disclosed."

Thanks for your time.

ladivo779

I did exactly that for about 4 years until I got married and decided to get MM2H. Mostly though, I didn't exit for just a day, I traveled a lot to other places in Asia for a week or two here and there. Also, this was from 2003 to 2008 so perhaps rules have changed. I only ever got questioned once by JB immigration but they also didn't really seem bothered.

Perhaps you'd better wait for more updated information.

Cobolin

The latest that I know, from personal experience, was earlier this year when I was told by an Immigration officer at KLIA "More than six months in Malaysia, you must have a visa." I was let off with a warning, but I decided to get MM2H asap.
The policy was tightened up in September 2018.

Bella principessa

I am in Penang researching whether to apply for MM2H.. we are in a lovely air bnb apartment which we can have for 6 months if we choose. However, we have 90 day visa but don't think it will be long enough to make a decision...
Can we get a second 90 day visa after leaving to go to Singapore for a few days?  I understand it is up to immigration at the time. Also we have dual UK Australian citizenship with 2 passports.  Don't want to break any laws or get into any trouble but could we come back in on the other passport??

zeubie

@Cobolin - is that "6 months" within a year or "6 months" in total?

Cobolin

@zeubie Six months within a year.

@Bella You should be fine if you've only had one prior 90 day tourist stamp (it's not strictly a visa) in the last few months. But yes, it is up to the individual Immigration officer (and their boss).

Having two passports would be an ideal workaround, I'd have thought! Just be careful to enter and leave with the same one each visit.

chiakaivalya

jojoefo I don't recommend the MTEP visa, you can search in this forums for my experience with it (or rather my husband's but I posted about it). Another friend has the MPTE visa, and now has problems renewing after the 2 years (his business is successful here). MTEP requirements are tricky and approval is by the Head of immigration (who knows nothing about IT). Since you already have a successful business, it also wouldn't make sense to go via MTEP as it's for startups who aren't making money yet... I would recommend MM2H in your case if you have enough starter funds to put in the fixed deposit. Your online business will need to generate a minimum passive income but not a very high one. I have friends here on MM2H, they have a 10-year visa with very little hassle.

Regarding staying for 9 months, last year my husband got rejected at klia2 after his 4th 3-month stay (even though he was out for 3 weeks at a time, and even though he was still in the midst of waiting for his MTEP visa application). We eventually gave up on MTEP and got married (best decision life-wise but not visa-wise, it's another can of worms!).

cvco

Dont confuse the passes. A social visit pass IS a class of visa, and you mean a tourist visa which is 90-days. People looking for information on the 2-3 year Long Term Social Visit Pass will be confused by your title and post.

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