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Are Gothic events allowed?

Last activity 09 February 2020 by FluxElectro

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FluxElectro

I'm a Malaysian returning home after many years being abroad. I used to believe gothic events are generally unwelcomed because of its taboo of it being bad influence and satanic. Anyone know if the police will potentially raid such gigs if someone organises a harmless music club event?

Loïc

Hello Fluxelectro and welcome to the forum !
Do you have a location mind? How many people do you expect?
about the police, we cannot help any further, hoping that some members would answer this tricky question.

Loïc

cvco

Interesting to have an original question in here.

In my time here I have seen goth people a few times and wondered if they had any events or how they hang out or what.

As a Malaysian you know its not a free for all and the govt hates anything that veers far off from Islam. If it were me, i wouldnt ask the police anything, just proceed with a small event and see how it goes. If there is a problem, you'll know and then adjust in the future or maybe be forced to abandon it. I cant imagine the police raiding and arresting cool-looking gothic girls but they might close an event and warn the organizers. Id take a chance.

cinnamonape

There are heavy metal events in Penang and Sarawak so I can't imagine that a goth event would be any more problematical than these (which also have spurious associations with Satanism). In Penang there is a place called Penang House of Music that might direct you to either metalhead or fellow goths for advice.

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Zloba

Ahaha, so true we stayed at the Lost Paradise Resort on Penang island last fall and there was a Death Metal fest on the beach right next to us. Two days (and nights) of profanity laden Death Metal. KILL-KILL-DIE-F**K.  So I think Goth will be OK :)

cinnamonape

You might promote it as a anime/lolita/steampunk/goth event with music and they'd have no idea what to do. If they asked further just tell any officials "cosplay". Hand them these cartoons.

http://www.thecomicstrips.com/store/add.php?iid=53215http://www.thecomicstrips.com/store/add.php?iid=66665

None of those things are explicitly religious or political (though implicitly...perhaps)...and at least two have some "Asian" cultural links (though elsewhere).

By portraying it as a mixed event you might also get a bigger audience...I'm not sure about the size of any goth culture here. Most goths may only "dress up" for events or when they are abroad rather than make it a way of life.

Usually the big concerns of officials are drugs/drinking, politics, religion, and nudity/sex/pornography. Most goths are fairly well-covered and there is little to know clearcut politics and any religious stuff is pretty well "coded" and certainly not evangellizing.

Of course doing anything out in the rural or more conservative Malay areas would be difficult. But Penang and Sarawak would likely tolerate it. The latter has had metal (there is even a genre called Dayak Death Metal) and punk events. There's a lot of cross pollination of "alternative" lifestyle communities here, it seems, sort of like London or New York "New Wave/Punk" scenes in the mid-late 1970's before everything got fragmented into all these snobby genres.

FluxElectro

Hi, all. Thanks for all the replies. These are really good information I could use for future events. At the moment, I don't have specific venue cause I'm still sourcing out locations and type of event I wanna do.

cinnamonape wrote:

You might promote it as a anime/lolita/steampunk/goth event with music and they'd have no idea what to do. If they asked further just tell any officials "cosplay". Hand them these cartoons.

http://www.thecomicstrips.com/store/add.php?iid=53215http://www.thecomicstrips.com/store/add.php?iid=66665

None of those things are explicitly religious or political (though implicitly...perhaps)...and at least two have some "Asian" cultural links (though elsewhere).

By portraying it as a mixed event you might also get a bigger audience...I'm not sure about the size of any goth culture here. Most goths may only "dress up" for events or when they are abroad rather than make it a way of life.

Usually the big concerns of officials are drugs/drinking, politics, religion, and nudity/sex/pornography. Most goths are fairly well-covered and there is little to know clearcut politics and any religious stuff is pretty well "coded" and certainly not evangellizing.

Of course doing anything out in the rural or more conservative Malay areas would be difficult. But Penang and Sarawak would likely tolerate it. The latter has had metal (there is even a genre called Dayak Death Metal) and punk events. There's a lot of cross pollination of "alternative" lifestyle communities here, it seems, sort of like London or New York "New Wave/Punk" scenes in the mid-late 1970's before everything got fragmented into all these snobby genres.


That's a good idea to promote the events as art but even the cinemas ban certain films that they deemed as "bad influence for the young". So I do hope that cosplay is enough of an excuse D:

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